dealership charging me $350 for car inspection?
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Re: dealership charging me $350 for car inspection?
>Reading the code isn't making a diagnosis of the fault. I've never been
>charged more than $50 for reading a code alone and often much less.
>However, that is just the first step in diagnosing a problem. People
>who think the OBD system tells the tech exactly what is wrong and
>exactly what to replace are very naive and have never worked on a car
>before.
Perhaps, but it also keeps customers from getting charged for
something that the a diagnostic says isn't broken. Customer's should
always be getting a hard-copy of a diagnostic test result.
- Thee Chicago Wolf
>charged more than $50 for reading a code alone and often much less.
>However, that is just the first step in diagnosing a problem. People
>who think the OBD system tells the tech exactly what is wrong and
>exactly what to replace are very naive and have never worked on a car
>before.
Perhaps, but it also keeps customers from getting charged for
something that the a diagnostic says isn't broken. Customer's should
always be getting a hard-copy of a diagnostic test result.
- Thee Chicago Wolf
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Re: dealership charging me $350 for car inspection?
"Wayne Moses" <wmoses@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
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Reply to message from "joe" <jcharth@gmail.com> (Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:42:55)
about "dealership charging me $350 for car inspection?":
j> Hi, everyone.
j> Looks like my engine has parts that are broken. the dealership charge
j> me $350 for oil change cables and sensor for nothing. I drove the car
j> and after 7 miles and now they want me to spend another $360 to tell
j> the insurance what is wrong with the car. Is this reasonable? thanks
Never mind reasonable - it is not even understandable. Please clarify your
post.
What happened after you drove it 7 miles? Why is insurance involved?
There seems to be many missing details in your post.
His post is incomprehensible Wayne, but I suspect the insurance he's talking
about is an extended warranty. Those companies often require an inspection
before authorizing repairs under the extended warranty, and that cost is
borne by the owner. Yet another "benefit" of extended warranties.
--
-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
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Re: dealership charging me $350 for car inspection?
Well, I don't know what code you're looking at, but on the VagCom for the VW
Jetta, it describes the problem in pretty good detail and points toward the
problem area. Also, with a good usergroup like VW has, you have an answer
and a fix in no time. I would imagine the dealers would also have such a
network of helpful information called Hyundai.
We aren't as naive as the dealers think we are, either. I could list
several instances where a dealer's service advisor tried to tell me things
that were no where near reality. I've had them tell me I needed new brakes
the week after I replaced the shoes. I've had them replace wiper blades
that were replaced that morning before inspection. I've had them tell me it
would take 3 hours to replace a serpentine belt that I replaced in front of
their eyes in 5 minutes. Etc, etc, etc. I have no respect for dealerships
and only use them as a last resort.
Tom
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> Tom wrote:
>> But they're right, Matt. It doesn't take $350 of labor to hook up an
>> OBDII and read the fault. I do it to my son's Jetta all the time (tells
>> you something about Jettas!!!!). It takes 5 minutes max.
>> I once had to pay an Olds dealer $200 bucks to tell me that my cat
>> converter was clogged (covered under warrantee), which I told him was
>> collapsed according to the trouble shooting guide in the maintenance
>> manual. Just hook up a vacuum gauge to the intake and it's obvious.
>> Needless to say, they lost any chance of a resale or return for other
>> service.
>
> Reading the code isn't making a diagnosis of the fault. I've never been
> charged more than $50 for reading a code alone and often much less.
> However, that is just the first step in diagnosing a problem. People who
> think the OBD system tells the tech exactly what is wrong and exactly what
> to replace are very naive and have never worked on a car before.
>
>
> Matt
Jetta, it describes the problem in pretty good detail and points toward the
problem area. Also, with a good usergroup like VW has, you have an answer
and a fix in no time. I would imagine the dealers would also have such a
network of helpful information called Hyundai.
We aren't as naive as the dealers think we are, either. I could list
several instances where a dealer's service advisor tried to tell me things
that were no where near reality. I've had them tell me I needed new brakes
the week after I replaced the shoes. I've had them replace wiper blades
that were replaced that morning before inspection. I've had them tell me it
would take 3 hours to replace a serpentine belt that I replaced in front of
their eyes in 5 minutes. Etc, etc, etc. I have no respect for dealerships
and only use them as a last resort.
Tom
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:qSDBh.2696$Oc.160690@news1.epix.net...
> Tom wrote:
>> But they're right, Matt. It doesn't take $350 of labor to hook up an
>> OBDII and read the fault. I do it to my son's Jetta all the time (tells
>> you something about Jettas!!!!). It takes 5 minutes max.
>> I once had to pay an Olds dealer $200 bucks to tell me that my cat
>> converter was clogged (covered under warrantee), which I told him was
>> collapsed according to the trouble shooting guide in the maintenance
>> manual. Just hook up a vacuum gauge to the intake and it's obvious.
>> Needless to say, they lost any chance of a resale or return for other
>> service.
>
> Reading the code isn't making a diagnosis of the fault. I've never been
> charged more than $50 for reading a code alone and often much less.
> However, that is just the first step in diagnosing a problem. People who
> think the OBD system tells the tech exactly what is wrong and exactly what
> to replace are very naive and have never worked on a car before.
>
>
> Matt
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Re: dealership charging me $350 for car inspection?
My point is "I cant believe a hyundai dealer void my warranty". I
spent $1000 when I got my hyundai used in the dealership to have a 10y
100k miles warranty. The timing belt broke at 58K miles, now 5k miles
after the engine repairs done by the dealership broke and my warranty
wont cover. So far I spent $700 and nothing has being done to the car.
Looks like I should call the corporate claims again or but a complaint
in the better business bureau.
On Feb 17, 9:26 pm, "Tom" <tjwit...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Well, I don't know what code you're looking at, but on the VagCom for the VW
> Jetta, it describes the problem in pretty good detail and points toward the
> problem area. Also, with a good usergroup like VW has, you have an answer
> and a fix in no time. I would imagine the dealers would also have such a
> network of helpful information called Hyundai.
> We aren't as naive as the dealers think we are, either. I could list
> several instances where a dealer's service advisor tried to tell me things
> that were no where near reality. I've had them tell me I needed new brakes
> the week after I replaced the shoes. I've had them replace wiper blades
> that were replaced that morning before inspection. I've had them tell me it
> would take 3 hours to replace a serpentine belt that I replaced in front of
> their eyes in 5 minutes. Etc, etc, etc. I have no respect for dealerships
> and only use them as a last resort.
>
> Tom
>
> "Matt Whiting" <whit...@epix.net> wrote in message
>
> news:qSDBh.2696$Oc.160690@news1.epix.net...
>
> > Tom wrote:
> >> But they're right, Matt. It doesn't take $350 of labor to hook up an
> >> OBDII and read the fault. I do it to my son's Jetta all the time (tells
> >> you something about Jettas!!!!). It takes 5 minutes max.
> >> I once had to pay an Olds dealer $200 bucks to tell me that my cat
> >> converter was clogged (covered under warrantee), which I told him was
> >> collapsed according to the trouble shooting guide in the maintenance
> >> manual. Just hook up a vacuum gauge to the intake and it's obvious.
> >> Needless to say, they lost any chance of a resale or return for other
> >> service.
>
> > Reading the code isn't making a diagnosis of the fault. I've never been
> > charged more than $50 for reading a code alone and often much less.
> > However, that is just the first step in diagnosing a problem. People who
> > think the OBD system tells the tech exactly what is wrong and exactly what
> > to replace are very naive and have never worked on a car before.
>
> > Matt
spent $1000 when I got my hyundai used in the dealership to have a 10y
100k miles warranty. The timing belt broke at 58K miles, now 5k miles
after the engine repairs done by the dealership broke and my warranty
wont cover. So far I spent $700 and nothing has being done to the car.
Looks like I should call the corporate claims again or but a complaint
in the better business bureau.
On Feb 17, 9:26 pm, "Tom" <tjwit...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Well, I don't know what code you're looking at, but on the VagCom for the VW
> Jetta, it describes the problem in pretty good detail and points toward the
> problem area. Also, with a good usergroup like VW has, you have an answer
> and a fix in no time. I would imagine the dealers would also have such a
> network of helpful information called Hyundai.
> We aren't as naive as the dealers think we are, either. I could list
> several instances where a dealer's service advisor tried to tell me things
> that were no where near reality. I've had them tell me I needed new brakes
> the week after I replaced the shoes. I've had them replace wiper blades
> that were replaced that morning before inspection. I've had them tell me it
> would take 3 hours to replace a serpentine belt that I replaced in front of
> their eyes in 5 minutes. Etc, etc, etc. I have no respect for dealerships
> and only use them as a last resort.
>
> Tom
>
> "Matt Whiting" <whit...@epix.net> wrote in message
>
> news:qSDBh.2696$Oc.160690@news1.epix.net...
>
> > Tom wrote:
> >> But they're right, Matt. It doesn't take $350 of labor to hook up an
> >> OBDII and read the fault. I do it to my son's Jetta all the time (tells
> >> you something about Jettas!!!!). It takes 5 minutes max.
> >> I once had to pay an Olds dealer $200 bucks to tell me that my cat
> >> converter was clogged (covered under warrantee), which I told him was
> >> collapsed according to the trouble shooting guide in the maintenance
> >> manual. Just hook up a vacuum gauge to the intake and it's obvious.
> >> Needless to say, they lost any chance of a resale or return for other
> >> service.
>
> > Reading the code isn't making a diagnosis of the fault. I've never been
> > charged more than $50 for reading a code alone and often much less.
> > However, that is just the first step in diagnosing a problem. People who
> > think the OBD system tells the tech exactly what is wrong and exactly what
> > to replace are very naive and have never worked on a car before.
>
> > Matt
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Re: dealership charging me $350 for car inspection?
Just file a claim in small claims court. Most states have at least a $3000
max for a claim, some allow up to $5000.
Force them to defend their actions.
Double Tap
"joe" <jcharth@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171922242.250171.250670@p10g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
> My point is "I cant believe a hyundai dealer void my warranty". I
> spent $1000 when I got my hyundai used in the dealership to have a 10y
> 100k miles warranty. The timing belt broke at 58K miles, now 5k miles
> after the engine repairs done by the dealership broke and my warranty
> wont cover. So far I spent $700 and nothing has being done to the car.
> Looks like I should call the corporate claims again or but a complaint
> in the better business bureau.
>
> On Feb 17, 9:26 pm, "Tom" <tjwit...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> Well, I don't know what code you're looking at, but on the VagCom for the
>> VW
>> Jetta, it describes the problem in pretty good detail and points toward
>> the
>> problem area. Also, with a good usergroup like VW has, you have an
>> answer
>> and a fix in no time. I would imagine the dealers would also have such a
>> network of helpful information called Hyundai.
>> We aren't as naive as the dealers think we are, either. I could list
>> several instances where a dealer's service advisor tried to tell me
>> things
>> that were no where near reality. I've had them tell me I needed new
>> brakes
>> the week after I replaced the shoes. I've had them replace wiper blades
>> that were replaced that morning before inspection. I've had them tell me
>> it
>> would take 3 hours to replace a serpentine belt that I replaced in front
>> of
>> their eyes in 5 minutes. Etc, etc, etc. I have no respect for
>> dealerships
>> and only use them as a last resort.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> "Matt Whiting" <whit...@epix.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:qSDBh.2696$Oc.160690@news1.epix.net...
>>
>> > Tom wrote:
>> >> But they're right, Matt. It doesn't take $350 of labor to hook up an
>> >> OBDII and read the fault. I do it to my son's Jetta all the time
>> >> (tells
>> >> you something about Jettas!!!!). It takes 5 minutes max.
>> >> I once had to pay an Olds dealer $200 bucks to tell me that my cat
>> >> converter was clogged (covered under warrantee), which I told him was
>> >> collapsed according to the trouble shooting guide in the maintenance
>> >> manual. Just hook up a vacuum gauge to the intake and it's obvious.
>> >> Needless to say, they lost any chance of a resale or return for other
>> >> service.
>>
>> > Reading the code isn't making a diagnosis of the fault. I've never
>> > been
>> > charged more than $50 for reading a code alone and often much less.
>> > However, that is just the first step in diagnosing a problem. People
>> > who
>> > think the OBD system tells the tech exactly what is wrong and exactly
>> > what
>> > to replace are very naive and have never worked on a car before.
>>
>> > Matt
>
>
max for a claim, some allow up to $5000.
Force them to defend their actions.
Double Tap
"joe" <jcharth@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171922242.250171.250670@p10g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
> My point is "I cant believe a hyundai dealer void my warranty". I
> spent $1000 when I got my hyundai used in the dealership to have a 10y
> 100k miles warranty. The timing belt broke at 58K miles, now 5k miles
> after the engine repairs done by the dealership broke and my warranty
> wont cover. So far I spent $700 and nothing has being done to the car.
> Looks like I should call the corporate claims again or but a complaint
> in the better business bureau.
>
> On Feb 17, 9:26 pm, "Tom" <tjwit...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> Well, I don't know what code you're looking at, but on the VagCom for the
>> VW
>> Jetta, it describes the problem in pretty good detail and points toward
>> the
>> problem area. Also, with a good usergroup like VW has, you have an
>> answer
>> and a fix in no time. I would imagine the dealers would also have such a
>> network of helpful information called Hyundai.
>> We aren't as naive as the dealers think we are, either. I could list
>> several instances where a dealer's service advisor tried to tell me
>> things
>> that were no where near reality. I've had them tell me I needed new
>> brakes
>> the week after I replaced the shoes. I've had them replace wiper blades
>> that were replaced that morning before inspection. I've had them tell me
>> it
>> would take 3 hours to replace a serpentine belt that I replaced in front
>> of
>> their eyes in 5 minutes. Etc, etc, etc. I have no respect for
>> dealerships
>> and only use them as a last resort.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> "Matt Whiting" <whit...@epix.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:qSDBh.2696$Oc.160690@news1.epix.net...
>>
>> > Tom wrote:
>> >> But they're right, Matt. It doesn't take $350 of labor to hook up an
>> >> OBDII and read the fault. I do it to my son's Jetta all the time
>> >> (tells
>> >> you something about Jettas!!!!). It takes 5 minutes max.
>> >> I once had to pay an Olds dealer $200 bucks to tell me that my cat
>> >> converter was clogged (covered under warrantee), which I told him was
>> >> collapsed according to the trouble shooting guide in the maintenance
>> >> manual. Just hook up a vacuum gauge to the intake and it's obvious.
>> >> Needless to say, they lost any chance of a resale or return for other
>> >> service.
>>
>> > Reading the code isn't making a diagnosis of the fault. I've never
>> > been
>> > charged more than $50 for reading a code alone and often much less.
>> > However, that is just the first step in diagnosing a problem. People
>> > who
>> > think the OBD system tells the tech exactly what is wrong and exactly
>> > what
>> > to replace are very naive and have never worked on a car before.
>>
>> > Matt
>
>
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