Elantra Starting Problem
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Elantra Starting Problem
I am having an odd intermittent starting problem with my Elantra. The
car is a 2000 sedan with automatic transmission and has 50,000 miles.
The car runs great but without warning will simply fail to start. It
will crank over fine but will not start. After a period of time,
sometimes a half hour and sometimes several hours, the problem
disappears and the car will start fine. The dealer has not been able
to recreate the problem and the car is not reporting any error codes.
They kept the car for three weeks and started it every day (several
times) without any problem. I had it back for three days before it
happened again. I noticed this time that it happened after the car
was driven for about 20 minutes and then parked for about 4 hours.
Then it would crank but not start. It started fine 2 hours later.
After thinking about it, I believe this is typical…the car is driven
for at least 20 minutes and then sits for at least 4 hours when the
problem shows up.
The only other problem I had was a couple of thousand miles ago the
car started stalling and hesitating. The dealer replace the mass air
flow sensor and the car has run fine since.
Has anyone had a similar problem? Any help would be appriciated.
Mike
car is a 2000 sedan with automatic transmission and has 50,000 miles.
The car runs great but without warning will simply fail to start. It
will crank over fine but will not start. After a period of time,
sometimes a half hour and sometimes several hours, the problem
disappears and the car will start fine. The dealer has not been able
to recreate the problem and the car is not reporting any error codes.
They kept the car for three weeks and started it every day (several
times) without any problem. I had it back for three days before it
happened again. I noticed this time that it happened after the car
was driven for about 20 minutes and then parked for about 4 hours.
Then it would crank but not start. It started fine 2 hours later.
After thinking about it, I believe this is typical…the car is driven
for at least 20 minutes and then sits for at least 4 hours when the
problem shows up.
The only other problem I had was a couple of thousand miles ago the
car started stalling and hesitating. The dealer replace the mass air
flow sensor and the car has run fine since.
Has anyone had a similar problem? Any help would be appriciated.
Mike
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Re: Elantra Starting Problem
On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 13:54:43 -0400, CANDOR <CANDOR@EROLS.COM> wrote:
>I am having an odd intermittent starting problem with my Elantra. The
>car is a 2000 sedan with automatic transmission and has 50,000 miles.
>The car runs great but without warning will simply fail to start. It
>will crank over fine but will not start. After a period of time,
>sometimes a half hour and sometimes several hours, the problem
>disappears and the car will start fine. The dealer has not been able
>to recreate the problem and the car is not reporting any error codes.
>They kept the car for three weeks and started it every day (several
>times) without any problem. I had it back for three days before it
>happened again. I noticed this time that it happened after the car
>was driven for about 20 minutes and then parked for about 4 hours.
>Then it would crank but not start. It started fine 2 hours later.
>After thinking about it, I believe this is typical…the car is driven
>for at least 20 minutes and then sits for at least 4 hours when the
>problem shows up.
>
>The only other problem I had was a couple of thousand miles ago the
>car started stalling and hesitating. The dealer replace the mass air
>flow sensor and the car has run fine since.
>
>Has anyone had a similar problem? Any help would be appriciated.
>
>Mike
Since it does not happen while at the dealers I would suggest at least
tyring to determine myself if it is an ignition problem.
When it fails to start try to determine if spark is going to the
plugs. You can do this by removing a plug wire and holding its end
very close to a ground such as the cylinder head and seeing whether
any fire is coming from the wire when the engine is cranked. Hold the
plug wire by its insulation and do not let your body be grounded. If
you determine that there is no ignition you can pass this info along
to the shop and it will shorten the list of possible problems. If you
do not do this properly you may receive an electrical shock but it is
not dangerous.
Old_Timer
>I am having an odd intermittent starting problem with my Elantra. The
>car is a 2000 sedan with automatic transmission and has 50,000 miles.
>The car runs great but without warning will simply fail to start. It
>will crank over fine but will not start. After a period of time,
>sometimes a half hour and sometimes several hours, the problem
>disappears and the car will start fine. The dealer has not been able
>to recreate the problem and the car is not reporting any error codes.
>They kept the car for three weeks and started it every day (several
>times) without any problem. I had it back for three days before it
>happened again. I noticed this time that it happened after the car
>was driven for about 20 minutes and then parked for about 4 hours.
>Then it would crank but not start. It started fine 2 hours later.
>After thinking about it, I believe this is typical…the car is driven
>for at least 20 minutes and then sits for at least 4 hours when the
>problem shows up.
>
>The only other problem I had was a couple of thousand miles ago the
>car started stalling and hesitating. The dealer replace the mass air
>flow sensor and the car has run fine since.
>
>Has anyone had a similar problem? Any help would be appriciated.
>
>Mike
Since it does not happen while at the dealers I would suggest at least
tyring to determine myself if it is an ignition problem.
When it fails to start try to determine if spark is going to the
plugs. You can do this by removing a plug wire and holding its end
very close to a ground such as the cylinder head and seeing whether
any fire is coming from the wire when the engine is cranked. Hold the
plug wire by its insulation and do not let your body be grounded. If
you determine that there is no ignition you can pass this info along
to the shop and it will shorten the list of possible problems. If you
do not do this properly you may receive an electrical shock but it is
not dangerous.
Old_Timer
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Re: Elantra Starting Problem
<Old_Timer> wrote in message news:ki3fgvookage51atharr04ovnc90sd798r@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 13:54:43 -0400, CANDOR <CANDOR@EROLS.COM> wrote:
>
> >I am having an odd intermittent starting problem with my Elantra. The
> >car is a 2000 sedan with automatic transmission and has 50,000 miles.
> >The car runs great but without warning will simply fail to start. It
> >will crank over fine but will not start. After a period of time,
> >sometimes a half hour and sometimes several hours, the problem
> >disappears and the car will start fine. The dealer has not been able
> >to recreate the problem and the car is not reporting any error codes.
> >They kept the car for three weeks and started it every day (several
> >times) without any problem. I had it back for three days before it
> >happened again. I noticed this time that it happened after the car
> >was driven for about 20 minutes and then parked for about 4 hours.
> >Then it would crank but not start. It started fine 2 hours later.
> >After thinking about it, I believe this is typical.the car is driven
> >for at least 20 minutes and then sits for at least 4 hours when the
> >problem shows up.
> >
> >The only other problem I had was a couple of thousand miles ago the
> >car started stalling and hesitating. The dealer replace the mass air
> >flow sensor and the car has run fine since.
> >
> >Has anyone had a similar problem? Any help would be appriciated.
> >
> >Mike
>
> Since it does not happen while at the dealers I would suggest at least
> tyring to determine myself if it is an ignition problem.
> When it fails to start try to determine if spark is going to the
> plugs. You can do this by removing a plug wire and holding its end
> very close to a ground such as the cylinder head and seeing whether
> any fire is coming from the wire when the engine is cranked. Hold the
> plug wire by its insulation and do not let your body be grounded. If
> you determine that there is no ignition you can pass this info along
> to the shop and it will shorten the list of possible problems. If you
> do not do this properly you may receive an electrical shock but it is
> not dangerous.
FWIW, I would hold the spark plug wire with a pair of pliers with rubber insulated handles, and wear rubber gloves as well. Although the high voltage from the ignition system may not be life threatening it hurts like hell from my personal experience.
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Re: Elantra Starting Problem
Might be the fuel pump!
On 5 Jul 2003 21:47:04 -0700, theta00k@yahoo.com wrote:
>CANDOR <CANDOR@EROLS.COM> wrote in message news:<s34egvsaphcb71agc0tdh7hrg0cg548vr2@4ax.com>. ..
>> I am having an odd intermittent starting problem with my Elantra. The
>> car is a 2000 sedan with automatic transmission and has 50,000 miles.
>> The car runs great but without warning will simply fail to start. It
>> will crank over fine but will not start. After a period of time,
>> sometimes a half hour and sometimes several hours, the problem
>> disappears and the car will start fine. The dealer has not been able
>> to recreate the problem and the car is not reporting any error codes.
>> They kept the car for three weeks and started it every day (several
>> times) without any problem. I had it back for three days before it
>> happened again. I noticed this time that it happened after the car
>> was driven for about 20 minutes and then parked for about 4 hours.
>> Then it would crank but not start. It started fine 2 hours later.
>> After thinking about it, I believe this is typical?the car is driven
>> for at least 20 minutes and then sits for at least 4 hours when the
>> problem shows up.
>>
>> The only other problem I had was a couple of thousand miles ago the
>> car started stalling and hesitating. The dealer replace the mass air
>> flow sensor and the car has run fine since.
>>
>> Has anyone had a similar problem? Any help would be appriciated.
>
>Next time it doesn't start, see if the tachometer needle moves.
On 5 Jul 2003 21:47:04 -0700, theta00k@yahoo.com wrote:
>CANDOR <CANDOR@EROLS.COM> wrote in message news:<s34egvsaphcb71agc0tdh7hrg0cg548vr2@4ax.com>. ..
>> I am having an odd intermittent starting problem with my Elantra. The
>> car is a 2000 sedan with automatic transmission and has 50,000 miles.
>> The car runs great but without warning will simply fail to start. It
>> will crank over fine but will not start. After a period of time,
>> sometimes a half hour and sometimes several hours, the problem
>> disappears and the car will start fine. The dealer has not been able
>> to recreate the problem and the car is not reporting any error codes.
>> They kept the car for three weeks and started it every day (several
>> times) without any problem. I had it back for three days before it
>> happened again. I noticed this time that it happened after the car
>> was driven for about 20 minutes and then parked for about 4 hours.
>> Then it would crank but not start. It started fine 2 hours later.
>> After thinking about it, I believe this is typical?the car is driven
>> for at least 20 minutes and then sits for at least 4 hours when the
>> problem shows up.
>>
>> The only other problem I had was a couple of thousand miles ago the
>> car started stalling and hesitating. The dealer replace the mass air
>> flow sensor and the car has run fine since.
>>
>> Has anyone had a similar problem? Any help would be appriciated.
>
>Next time it doesn't start, see if the tachometer needle moves.
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Re: Elantra Starting Problem
> > >I am having an odd intermittent starting problem with my Elantra.
i have a 97 accent base model, manual that has that exact problem.
ive been working with it for awhile now.. sometimes itll start up
after 3 or 4 15 second bursts of cranking, other times.. not.
its getting fuel but not spark.
i discovered that while having the problem, if you get a jump from
another car itll start _right_ up
new alternator, new battery. could this be a coil pack problem?
i have a 97 accent base model, manual that has that exact problem.
ive been working with it for awhile now.. sometimes itll start up
after 3 or 4 15 second bursts of cranking, other times.. not.
its getting fuel but not spark.
i discovered that while having the problem, if you get a jump from
another car itll start _right_ up
new alternator, new battery. could this be a coil pack problem?
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Re: Elantra Starting Problem
Thanks to everyone for replying to my post. The car didn't start
again today. This time I was able to confirm that it is not getting a
spark. The car has not been driven in a couple of weeks but has been
starting fine in the driveway...until today.
On 3 Aug 2003 15:33:12 -0700, magic__55@hotmail.com (opiate5555)
wrote:
>> > >I am having an odd intermittent starting problem with my Elantra.
>
>i have a 97 accent base model, manual that has that exact problem.
>ive been working with it for awhile now.. sometimes itll start up
>after 3 or 4 15 second bursts of cranking, other times.. not.
>its getting fuel but not spark.
>i discovered that while having the problem, if you get a jump from
>another car itll start _right_ up
>new alternator, new battery. could this be a coil pack problem?
again today. This time I was able to confirm that it is not getting a
spark. The car has not been driven in a couple of weeks but has been
starting fine in the driveway...until today.
On 3 Aug 2003 15:33:12 -0700, magic__55@hotmail.com (opiate5555)
wrote:
>> > >I am having an odd intermittent starting problem with my Elantra.
>
>i have a 97 accent base model, manual that has that exact problem.
>ive been working with it for awhile now.. sometimes itll start up
>after 3 or 4 15 second bursts of cranking, other times.. not.
>its getting fuel but not spark.
>i discovered that while having the problem, if you get a jump from
>another car itll start _right_ up
>new alternator, new battery. could this be a coil pack problem?
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Re: Elantra Starting Problem
It finally did it again and as it turns out...no spark. Thats not to
say that it won't start up fine in a few hours.
???
Mike
On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 19:58:07 -0700, Old_Timer wrote:
>On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 13:54:43 -0400, CANDOR <CANDOR@EROLS.COM> wrote:
>
>>I am having an odd intermittent starting problem with my Elantra. The
>>car is a 2000 sedan with automatic transmission and has 50,000 miles.
>>The car runs great but without warning will simply fail to start. It
>>will crank over fine but will not start. After a period of time,
>>sometimes a half hour and sometimes several hours, the problem
>>disappears and the car will start fine. The dealer has not been able
>>to recreate the problem and the car is not reporting any error codes.
>>They kept the car for three weeks and started it every day (several
>>times) without any problem. I had it back for three days before it
>>happened again. I noticed this time that it happened after the car
>>was driven for about 20 minutes and then parked for about 4 hours.
>>Then it would crank but not start. It started fine 2 hours later.
>>After thinking about it, I believe this is typical…the car is driven
>>for at least 20 minutes and then sits for at least 4 hours when the
>>problem shows up.
>>
>>The only other problem I had was a couple of thousand miles ago the
>>car started stalling and hesitating. The dealer replace the mass air
>>flow sensor and the car has run fine since.
>>
>>Has anyone had a similar problem? Any help would be appriciated.
>>
>>Mike
>
>Since it does not happen while at the dealers I would suggest at least
>tyring to determine myself if it is an ignition problem.
>When it fails to start try to determine if spark is going to the
>plugs. You can do this by removing a plug wire and holding its end
>very close to a ground such as the cylinder head and seeing whether
>any fire is coming from the wire when the engine is cranked. Hold the
>plug wire by its insulation and do not let your body be grounded. If
>you determine that there is no ignition you can pass this info along
>to the shop and it will shorten the list of possible problems. If you
>do not do this properly you may receive an electrical shock but it is
>not dangerous.
>
>Old_Timer
say that it won't start up fine in a few hours.
???
Mike
On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 19:58:07 -0700, Old_Timer wrote:
>On Sat, 05 Jul 2003 13:54:43 -0400, CANDOR <CANDOR@EROLS.COM> wrote:
>
>>I am having an odd intermittent starting problem with my Elantra. The
>>car is a 2000 sedan with automatic transmission and has 50,000 miles.
>>The car runs great but without warning will simply fail to start. It
>>will crank over fine but will not start. After a period of time,
>>sometimes a half hour and sometimes several hours, the problem
>>disappears and the car will start fine. The dealer has not been able
>>to recreate the problem and the car is not reporting any error codes.
>>They kept the car for three weeks and started it every day (several
>>times) without any problem. I had it back for three days before it
>>happened again. I noticed this time that it happened after the car
>>was driven for about 20 minutes and then parked for about 4 hours.
>>Then it would crank but not start. It started fine 2 hours later.
>>After thinking about it, I believe this is typical…the car is driven
>>for at least 20 minutes and then sits for at least 4 hours when the
>>problem shows up.
>>
>>The only other problem I had was a couple of thousand miles ago the
>>car started stalling and hesitating. The dealer replace the mass air
>>flow sensor and the car has run fine since.
>>
>>Has anyone had a similar problem? Any help would be appriciated.
>>
>>Mike
>
>Since it does not happen while at the dealers I would suggest at least
>tyring to determine myself if it is an ignition problem.
>When it fails to start try to determine if spark is going to the
>plugs. You can do this by removing a plug wire and holding its end
>very close to a ground such as the cylinder head and seeing whether
>any fire is coming from the wire when the engine is cranked. Hold the
>plug wire by its insulation and do not let your body be grounded. If
>you determine that there is no ignition you can pass this info along
>to the shop and it will shorten the list of possible problems. If you
>do not do this properly you may receive an electrical shock but it is
>not dangerous.
>
>Old_Timer
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