GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared? RELAX!
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING? RELAX!
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> I defy you to find more than two days out of those two weeks where the
> current high sets a record for that day in history. If the earth is
> indeed warming should we not be setting new daily records, yet you will
> not see more than three in two months? LOL
>
> mike hunt
Setting records has nothing to do with averages. It is possible to have
warming trends for years and never break a record.
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared? RELAX!
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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>I believe that just proves how gullible you are. These are the same folks
>that were telling me, when I was is college in the late forties, and my
>children in the mid seventies, that these same greenhouse gases when
>leading the world into another ice age. Why and when should we believe
>them? Have you read anything from those that believe the changes in the
>earths temperature is caused by changes in the rotation of the earth around
>the sun or the angle of it axis? How about the 70% of the earths volcano's
>that are under the ocean and the experts who believe they can warm the
>oceans and thus the air at will? How about the expert that blame sun
>activity? Which do you believe is more probable as a cause of warming?
There are two issues here. First, does global warming exist? I think thee
is plenty of evidence that yes, it does.
The second issue is the cause. It is from humans polluting and burning
fossil fuels? That is much more complex and difficult to prove or disprove.
If you look at thousands of years of temperature trends, the amount of CO2
increases with temperature. If you look at the increased emissions of CO2,
the depletion of the rain forests, you'd have to conclude at least a
"maybe". It is worth researching
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared? RELAX!
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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>I believe that just proves how gullible you are. These are the same folks
>that were telling me, when I was is college in the late forties, and my
>children in the mid seventies, that these same greenhouse gases when
>leading the world into another ice age. Why and when should we believe
>them? Have you read anything from those that believe the changes in the
>earths temperature is caused by changes in the rotation of the earth around
>the sun or the angle of it axis? How about the 70% of the earths volcano's
>that are under the ocean and the experts who believe they can warm the
>oceans and thus the air at will? How about the expert that blame sun
>activity? Which do you believe is more probable as a cause of warming?
There are two issues here. First, does global warming exist? I think thee
is plenty of evidence that yes, it does.
The second issue is the cause. It is from humans polluting and burning
fossil fuels? That is much more complex and difficult to prove or disprove.
If you look at thousands of years of temperature trends, the amount of CO2
increases with temperature. If you look at the increased emissions of CO2,
the depletion of the rain forests, you'd have to conclude at least a
"maybe". It is worth researching
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared? RELAX!
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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>I believe that just proves how gullible you are. These are the same folks
>that were telling me, when I was is college in the late forties, and my
>children in the mid seventies, that these same greenhouse gases when
>leading the world into another ice age. Why and when should we believe
>them? Have you read anything from those that believe the changes in the
>earths temperature is caused by changes in the rotation of the earth around
>the sun or the angle of it axis? How about the 70% of the earths volcano's
>that are under the ocean and the experts who believe they can warm the
>oceans and thus the air at will? How about the expert that blame sun
>activity? Which do you believe is more probable as a cause of warming?
There are two issues here. First, does global warming exist? I think thee
is plenty of evidence that yes, it does.
The second issue is the cause. It is from humans polluting and burning
fossil fuels? That is much more complex and difficult to prove or disprove.
If you look at thousands of years of temperature trends, the amount of CO2
increases with temperature. If you look at the increased emissions of CO2,
the depletion of the rain forests, you'd have to conclude at least a
"maybe". It is worth researching
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared? RELAX!
Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
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> Eric G. wrote:
>> I'm rambling now, but you get the idea.
>
> Yes, you are.
>
> How open is your mind?
>
> http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/sto...CMP=OTC-RSSFee
> ds0312
>
Well, I never heard of the whole jump theory until you gave me the link, if
that means anything.
Eric
news:OBXug.594$Pa.70495@news1.epix.net:
> Eric G. wrote:
>> I'm rambling now, but you get the idea.
>
> Yes, you are.
>
> How open is your mind?
>
> http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/sto...CMP=OTC-RSSFee
> ds0312
>
Well, I never heard of the whole jump theory until you gave me the link, if
that means anything.
Eric
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared? RELAX!
Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:OBXug.594$Pa.70495@news1.epix.net:
> Eric G. wrote:
>> I'm rambling now, but you get the idea.
>
> Yes, you are.
>
> How open is your mind?
>
> http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/sto...CMP=OTC-RSSFee
> ds0312
>
Well, I never heard of the whole jump theory until you gave me the link, if
that means anything.
Eric
news:OBXug.594$Pa.70495@news1.epix.net:
> Eric G. wrote:
>> I'm rambling now, but you get the idea.
>
> Yes, you are.
>
> How open is your mind?
>
> http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/sto...CMP=OTC-RSSFee
> ds0312
>
Well, I never heard of the whole jump theory until you gave me the link, if
that means anything.
Eric
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared? RELAX!
Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:OBXug.594$Pa.70495@news1.epix.net:
> Eric G. wrote:
>> I'm rambling now, but you get the idea.
>
> Yes, you are.
>
> How open is your mind?
>
> http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/sto...CMP=OTC-RSSFee
> ds0312
>
Well, I never heard of the whole jump theory until you gave me the link, if
that means anything.
Eric
news:OBXug.594$Pa.70495@news1.epix.net:
> Eric G. wrote:
>> I'm rambling now, but you get the idea.
>
> Yes, you are.
>
> How open is your mind?
>
> http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/sto...CMP=OTC-RSSFee
> ds0312
>
Well, I never heard of the whole jump theory until you gave me the link, if
that means anything.
Eric
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared?RELAX!
Eric G. wrote:
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:OBXug.594$Pa.70495@news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>Eric G. wrote:
>>
>>>I'm rambling now, but you get the idea.
>>
>>Yes, you are.
>>
>>How open is your mind?
>>
>>http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/sto...CMP=OTC-RSSFee
>>ds0312
>>
>
>
> Well, I never heard of the whole jump theory until you gave me the link, if
> that means anything.
I just happened on it by accident. Makes about as much sense as some of
the other theories ... which is none.
Matt
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:OBXug.594$Pa.70495@news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>Eric G. wrote:
>>
>>>I'm rambling now, but you get the idea.
>>
>>Yes, you are.
>>
>>How open is your mind?
>>
>>http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/sto...CMP=OTC-RSSFee
>>ds0312
>>
>
>
> Well, I never heard of the whole jump theory until you gave me the link, if
> that means anything.
I just happened on it by accident. Makes about as much sense as some of
the other theories ... which is none.
Matt
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared?RELAX!
Eric G. wrote:
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:OBXug.594$Pa.70495@news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>Eric G. wrote:
>>
>>>I'm rambling now, but you get the idea.
>>
>>Yes, you are.
>>
>>How open is your mind?
>>
>>http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/sto...CMP=OTC-RSSFee
>>ds0312
>>
>
>
> Well, I never heard of the whole jump theory until you gave me the link, if
> that means anything.
I just happened on it by accident. Makes about as much sense as some of
the other theories ... which is none.
Matt
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:OBXug.594$Pa.70495@news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>Eric G. wrote:
>>
>>>I'm rambling now, but you get the idea.
>>
>>Yes, you are.
>>
>>How open is your mind?
>>
>>http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/sto...CMP=OTC-RSSFee
>>ds0312
>>
>
>
> Well, I never heard of the whole jump theory until you gave me the link, if
> that means anything.
I just happened on it by accident. Makes about as much sense as some of
the other theories ... which is none.
Matt
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared?RELAX!
Eric G. wrote:
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:OBXug.594$Pa.70495@news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>Eric G. wrote:
>>
>>>I'm rambling now, but you get the idea.
>>
>>Yes, you are.
>>
>>How open is your mind?
>>
>>http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/sto...CMP=OTC-RSSFee
>>ds0312
>>
>
>
> Well, I never heard of the whole jump theory until you gave me the link, if
> that means anything.
I just happened on it by accident. Makes about as much sense as some of
the other theories ... which is none.
Matt
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:OBXug.594$Pa.70495@news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>Eric G. wrote:
>>
>>>I'm rambling now, but you get the idea.
>>
>>Yes, you are.
>>
>>How open is your mind?
>>
>>http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/sto...CMP=OTC-RSSFee
>>ds0312
>>
>
>
> Well, I never heard of the whole jump theory until you gave me the link, if
> that means anything.
I just happened on it by accident. Makes about as much sense as some of
the other theories ... which is none.
Matt
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared? RELAX!
Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:a7Wug.592$Pa.70457@news1.epix.net:
> It hasn't been proven at all. At best there is a correlation, but
> there certainly is no proof of cause and effect. The system is just
> way too complex for that. It is just like medical studies that claim
> this or that causes this or that. They almost always get contradicted
> in a few years and than what do you believe? For years it was stated
> as fact that consuming too much calcium caused kidney stones. Now it
> is claimed that it is actually a calcium deficiency that causes them.
>
> I just chuckle when folks get correlation and causation confused.
>
>
> Matt
It has been proven as best as is possible with todays science. There are
only a very few "things" that have actually been proven ABSOLUTELY in this
world.
Eric
news:a7Wug.592$Pa.70457@news1.epix.net:
> It hasn't been proven at all. At best there is a correlation, but
> there certainly is no proof of cause and effect. The system is just
> way too complex for that. It is just like medical studies that claim
> this or that causes this or that. They almost always get contradicted
> in a few years and than what do you believe? For years it was stated
> as fact that consuming too much calcium caused kidney stones. Now it
> is claimed that it is actually a calcium deficiency that causes them.
>
> I just chuckle when folks get correlation and causation confused.
>
>
> Matt
It has been proven as best as is possible with todays science. There are
only a very few "things" that have actually been proven ABSOLUTELY in this
world.
Eric
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared? RELAX!
Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:a7Wug.592$Pa.70457@news1.epix.net:
> It hasn't been proven at all. At best there is a correlation, but
> there certainly is no proof of cause and effect. The system is just
> way too complex for that. It is just like medical studies that claim
> this or that causes this or that. They almost always get contradicted
> in a few years and than what do you believe? For years it was stated
> as fact that consuming too much calcium caused kidney stones. Now it
> is claimed that it is actually a calcium deficiency that causes them.
>
> I just chuckle when folks get correlation and causation confused.
>
>
> Matt
It has been proven as best as is possible with todays science. There are
only a very few "things" that have actually been proven ABSOLUTELY in this
world.
Eric
news:a7Wug.592$Pa.70457@news1.epix.net:
> It hasn't been proven at all. At best there is a correlation, but
> there certainly is no proof of cause and effect. The system is just
> way too complex for that. It is just like medical studies that claim
> this or that causes this or that. They almost always get contradicted
> in a few years and than what do you believe? For years it was stated
> as fact that consuming too much calcium caused kidney stones. Now it
> is claimed that it is actually a calcium deficiency that causes them.
>
> I just chuckle when folks get correlation and causation confused.
>
>
> Matt
It has been proven as best as is possible with todays science. There are
only a very few "things" that have actually been proven ABSOLUTELY in this
world.
Eric
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared? RELAX!
Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:a7Wug.592$Pa.70457@news1.epix.net:
> It hasn't been proven at all. At best there is a correlation, but
> there certainly is no proof of cause and effect. The system is just
> way too complex for that. It is just like medical studies that claim
> this or that causes this or that. They almost always get contradicted
> in a few years and than what do you believe? For years it was stated
> as fact that consuming too much calcium caused kidney stones. Now it
> is claimed that it is actually a calcium deficiency that causes them.
>
> I just chuckle when folks get correlation and causation confused.
>
>
> Matt
It has been proven as best as is possible with todays science. There are
only a very few "things" that have actually been proven ABSOLUTELY in this
world.
Eric
news:a7Wug.592$Pa.70457@news1.epix.net:
> It hasn't been proven at all. At best there is a correlation, but
> there certainly is no proof of cause and effect. The system is just
> way too complex for that. It is just like medical studies that claim
> this or that causes this or that. They almost always get contradicted
> in a few years and than what do you believe? For years it was stated
> as fact that consuming too much calcium caused kidney stones. Now it
> is claimed that it is actually a calcium deficiency that causes them.
>
> I just chuckle when folks get correlation and causation confused.
>
>
> Matt
It has been proven as best as is possible with todays science. There are
only a very few "things" that have actually been proven ABSOLUTELY in this
world.
Eric
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared?RELAX!
William Dryden wrote:
> "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
> news:tsJug.6346$2v.3067@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net ...
>
>>"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>>
>>>I've seen data to suggest that and I've seen some dissenting data that
>>>challenges it. I really don't know what the reality is with regard to
>>>global warming, other than it is now more of a political issue than a
>>>scientific one. Lots of politicians see a way to make hay with this, Al
>>>Gore being at the forefront. They will do whatever they can, including
>>>missquoting at least one fairly prominent scientist to further their
>>>agenda.
>>
>>All you have to do is look at the photos of many regions of ice packs and
>>glaciers. They are melting. There is no doubt that we are warming. The
>>real question is, does this come from a natural climate cycles, or is it
>
> man
>
>>induced?
>>
>>
>
>
> Global warming is happening on Mars too. I suppose we caused that with our
> cars here on Earth as well?
>
> http://www.space.com/scienceastronom..._011206-1.html
I'm sure it is all of the probes that NASA has sent there in the last
decade. Probably messed up what little atmosphere the Martians have. I
bet they'll soon be filing a lawsuit ... as soon as we send them a lawyer.
Matt
> "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
> news:tsJug.6346$2v.3067@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net ...
>
>>"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>>
>>>I've seen data to suggest that and I've seen some dissenting data that
>>>challenges it. I really don't know what the reality is with regard to
>>>global warming, other than it is now more of a political issue than a
>>>scientific one. Lots of politicians see a way to make hay with this, Al
>>>Gore being at the forefront. They will do whatever they can, including
>>>missquoting at least one fairly prominent scientist to further their
>>>agenda.
>>
>>All you have to do is look at the photos of many regions of ice packs and
>>glaciers. They are melting. There is no doubt that we are warming. The
>>real question is, does this come from a natural climate cycles, or is it
>
> man
>
>>induced?
>>
>>
>
>
> Global warming is happening on Mars too. I suppose we caused that with our
> cars here on Earth as well?
>
> http://www.space.com/scienceastronom..._011206-1.html
I'm sure it is all of the probes that NASA has sent there in the last
decade. Probably messed up what little atmosphere the Martians have. I
bet they'll soon be filing a lawsuit ... as soon as we send them a lawyer.
Matt
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Re: GLOBAL WARMING: Gore & Other Nervous Nellies Got Ya Scared?RELAX!
William Dryden wrote:
> "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
> news:tsJug.6346$2v.3067@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net ...
>
>>"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>>
>>>I've seen data to suggest that and I've seen some dissenting data that
>>>challenges it. I really don't know what the reality is with regard to
>>>global warming, other than it is now more of a political issue than a
>>>scientific one. Lots of politicians see a way to make hay with this, Al
>>>Gore being at the forefront. They will do whatever they can, including
>>>missquoting at least one fairly prominent scientist to further their
>>>agenda.
>>
>>All you have to do is look at the photos of many regions of ice packs and
>>glaciers. They are melting. There is no doubt that we are warming. The
>>real question is, does this come from a natural climate cycles, or is it
>
> man
>
>>induced?
>>
>>
>
>
> Global warming is happening on Mars too. I suppose we caused that with our
> cars here on Earth as well?
>
> http://www.space.com/scienceastronom..._011206-1.html
I'm sure it is all of the probes that NASA has sent there in the last
decade. Probably messed up what little atmosphere the Martians have. I
bet they'll soon be filing a lawsuit ... as soon as we send them a lawyer.
Matt
> "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
> news:tsJug.6346$2v.3067@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net ...
>
>>"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>>
>>>I've seen data to suggest that and I've seen some dissenting data that
>>>challenges it. I really don't know what the reality is with regard to
>>>global warming, other than it is now more of a political issue than a
>>>scientific one. Lots of politicians see a way to make hay with this, Al
>>>Gore being at the forefront. They will do whatever they can, including
>>>missquoting at least one fairly prominent scientist to further their
>>>agenda.
>>
>>All you have to do is look at the photos of many regions of ice packs and
>>glaciers. They are melting. There is no doubt that we are warming. The
>>real question is, does this come from a natural climate cycles, or is it
>
> man
>
>>induced?
>>
>>
>
>
> Global warming is happening on Mars too. I suppose we caused that with our
> cars here on Earth as well?
>
> http://www.space.com/scienceastronom..._011206-1.html
I'm sure it is all of the probes that NASA has sent there in the last
decade. Probably messed up what little atmosphere the Martians have. I
bet they'll soon be filing a lawsuit ... as soon as we send them a lawyer.
Matt