Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:aH2vg.601$Pa.71087@news1.epix.net:

> Eric G. wrote:
>
>> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
>> news:OBXug.594$Pa.70495@news1.epix.net:
>>
>>
>>>Eric G. wrote:
>>>
>>>>I'm rambling now, but you get the idea.
>>>
>>>Yes, you are.
>>>
>>>How open is your mind?
>>>
>>>http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/sto...age=1&CMP=OTC-
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>>>e ds0312
>>>
>>
>>
>> Well, I never heard of the whole jump theory until you gave me the
>> link, if that means anything.
>
> I just happened on it by accident. Makes about as much sense as some
> of the other theories ... which is none.
>
> Matt
>

"Some", yes. All, no.

Eric

 

Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:uK2vg.604$Pa.71192@news1.epix.net:

> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>
>>> I defy you to find more than two days out of those two weeks where
>>> the
>>>current high sets a record for that day in history. If the earth is
>>>indeed warming should we not be setting new daily records, yet you
>>>will not see more than three in two months? LOL
>>>
>>>mike hunt
>>
>>
>> Setting records has nothing to do with averages. It is possible to
>> have warming trends for years and never break a record.
>
> Possible, but extremely unlikely.
>
>
> Matt

If you looking at things seasonally, it would be much less likely to break
a record in the warmer months. And much more likely to do it in the colder
months. There were WEEKS in a row last winter where records were broken
all over the United States.

Eric

 

Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:uK2vg.604$Pa.71192@news1.epix.net:

> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>
>>> I defy you to find more than two days out of those two weeks where
>>> the
>>>current high sets a record for that day in history. If the earth is
>>>indeed warming should we not be setting new daily records, yet you
>>>will not see more than three in two months? LOL
>>>
>>>mike hunt
>>
>>
>> Setting records has nothing to do with averages. It is possible to
>> have warming trends for years and never break a record.
>
> Possible, but extremely unlikely.
>
>
> Matt

If you looking at things seasonally, it would be much less likely to break
a record in the warmer months. And much more likely to do it in the colder
months. There were WEEKS in a row last winter where records were broken
all over the United States.

Eric

 

Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:uK2vg.604$Pa.71192@news1.epix.net:

> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>
>>> I defy you to find more than two days out of those two weeks where
>>> the
>>>current high sets a record for that day in history. If the earth is
>>>indeed warming should we not be setting new daily records, yet you
>>>will not see more than three in two months? LOL
>>>
>>>mike hunt
>>
>>
>> Setting records has nothing to do with averages. It is possible to
>> have warming trends for years and never break a record.
>
> Possible, but extremely unlikely.
>
>
> Matt

If you looking at things seasonally, it would be much less likely to break
a record in the warmer months. And much more likely to do it in the colder
months. There were WEEKS in a row last winter where records were broken
all over the United States.

Eric

 

Most people as well as most experts agree global temperature change occurs.
That is a lot different than concluding that global temperature change is
caused by man, and that man can do something to change the earth
temperature, as the alarmist would like us to believe. That my friend has
been my point during this discussion. The fact is during the 165 million
year the dinosaur roamed the earth experts tell us the average earth
temperature was a staggering 4 degrees higher and that produce all the large
vegetation on which they fed. The vegetation produced the higher percentage
of oxygen it the air that allowed them to breath without a diaphragm. Some
believe it was a reduction in the percentage of oxygen cause by ice ages
that cause their demise and the number of mammals, with a diaphragm, to
increase. During the 65 million years since the dinosaur disappeared there
have been numerous ice ages, the latest just 35 thousand years ago. Who do
we believe, what do we do about it and what if what if what we do is the
wrong thing?


mike hunt


"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
news:tC2vg.69875$fb2.50370@newssvr27.news.prodigy. net...
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> newscSdnb-oeYeFyCHZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>I believe that just proves how gullible you are. These are the same folks
>>that were telling me, when I was is college in the late forties, and my
>>children in the mid seventies, that these same greenhouse gases when
>>leading the world into another ice age. Why and when should we believe
>>them? Have you read anything from those that believe the changes in the
>>earths temperature is caused by changes in the rotation of the earth
>>around the sun or the angle of it axis? How about the 70% of the earths
>>volcano's that are under the ocean and the experts who believe they can
>>warm the oceans and thus the air at will? How about the expert that blame
>>sun activity? Which do you believe is more probable as a cause of
>>warming?
>
> There are two issues here. First, does global warming exist? I think
> thee is plenty of evidence that yes, it does.
>
> The second issue is the cause. It is from humans polluting and burning
> fossil fuels? That is much more complex and difficult to prove or
> disprove. If you look at thousands of years of temperature trends, the
> amount of CO2 increases with temperature. If you look at the increased
> emissions of CO2, the depletion of the rain forests, you'd have to
> conclude at least a "maybe". It is worth researching
>

 

Most people as well as most experts agree global temperature change occurs.
That is a lot different than concluding that global temperature change is
caused by man, and that man can do something to change the earth
temperature, as the alarmist would like us to believe. That my friend has
been my point during this discussion. The fact is during the 165 million
year the dinosaur roamed the earth experts tell us the average earth
temperature was a staggering 4 degrees higher and that produce all the large
vegetation on which they fed. The vegetation produced the higher percentage
of oxygen it the air that allowed them to breath without a diaphragm. Some
believe it was a reduction in the percentage of oxygen cause by ice ages
that cause their demise and the number of mammals, with a diaphragm, to
increase. During the 65 million years since the dinosaur disappeared there
have been numerous ice ages, the latest just 35 thousand years ago. Who do
we believe, what do we do about it and what if what if what we do is the
wrong thing?


mike hunt


"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
news:tC2vg.69875$fb2.50370@newssvr27.news.prodigy. net...
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> newscSdnb-oeYeFyCHZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>I believe that just proves how gullible you are. These are the same folks
>>that were telling me, when I was is college in the late forties, and my
>>children in the mid seventies, that these same greenhouse gases when
>>leading the world into another ice age. Why and when should we believe
>>them? Have you read anything from those that believe the changes in the
>>earths temperature is caused by changes in the rotation of the earth
>>around the sun or the angle of it axis? How about the 70% of the earths
>>volcano's that are under the ocean and the experts who believe they can
>>warm the oceans and thus the air at will? How about the expert that blame
>>sun activity? Which do you believe is more probable as a cause of
>>warming?
>
> There are two issues here. First, does global warming exist? I think
> thee is plenty of evidence that yes, it does.
>
> The second issue is the cause. It is from humans polluting and burning
> fossil fuels? That is much more complex and difficult to prove or
> disprove. If you look at thousands of years of temperature trends, the
> amount of CO2 increases with temperature. If you look at the increased
> emissions of CO2, the depletion of the rain forests, you'd have to
> conclude at least a "maybe". It is worth researching
>

 

Most people as well as most experts agree global temperature change occurs.
That is a lot different than concluding that global temperature change is
caused by man, and that man can do something to change the earth
temperature, as the alarmist would like us to believe. That my friend has
been my point during this discussion. The fact is during the 165 million
year the dinosaur roamed the earth experts tell us the average earth
temperature was a staggering 4 degrees higher and that produce all the large
vegetation on which they fed. The vegetation produced the higher percentage
of oxygen it the air that allowed them to breath without a diaphragm. Some
believe it was a reduction in the percentage of oxygen cause by ice ages
that cause their demise and the number of mammals, with a diaphragm, to
increase. During the 65 million years since the dinosaur disappeared there
have been numerous ice ages, the latest just 35 thousand years ago. Who do
we believe, what do we do about it and what if what if what we do is the
wrong thing?


mike hunt


"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
news:tC2vg.69875$fb2.50370@newssvr27.news.prodigy. net...
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> newscSdnb-oeYeFyCHZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>I believe that just proves how gullible you are. These are the same folks
>>that were telling me, when I was is college in the late forties, and my
>>children in the mid seventies, that these same greenhouse gases when
>>leading the world into another ice age. Why and when should we believe
>>them? Have you read anything from those that believe the changes in the
>>earths temperature is caused by changes in the rotation of the earth
>>around the sun or the angle of it axis? How about the 70% of the earths
>>volcano's that are under the ocean and the experts who believe they can
>>warm the oceans and thus the air at will? How about the expert that blame
>>sun activity? Which do you believe is more probable as a cause of
>>warming?
>
> There are two issues here. First, does global warming exist? I think
> thee is plenty of evidence that yes, it does.
>
> The second issue is the cause. It is from humans polluting and burning
> fossil fuels? That is much more complex and difficult to prove or
> disprove. If you look at thousands of years of temperature trends, the
> amount of CO2 increases with temperature. If you look at the increased
> emissions of CO2, the depletion of the rain forests, you'd have to
> conclude at least a "maybe". It is worth researching
>

 

It is? How prey tell? LOL


mike


"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
news:iw2vg.69874$fb2.44819@newssvr27.news.prodigy. net...
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> I defy you to find more than two days out of those two weeks where the
>> current high sets a record for that day in history. If the earth is
>> indeed warming should we not be setting new daily records, yet you will
>> not see more than three in two months? LOL
>>
>> mike hunt
>
> Setting records has nothing to do with averages. It is possible to have
> warming trends for years and never break a record.
>
>

 

It is? How prey tell? LOL


mike


"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
news:iw2vg.69874$fb2.44819@newssvr27.news.prodigy. net...
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> I defy you to find more than two days out of those two weeks where the
>> current high sets a record for that day in history. If the earth is
>> indeed warming should we not be setting new daily records, yet you will
>> not see more than three in two months? LOL
>>
>> mike hunt
>
> Setting records has nothing to do with averages. It is possible to have
> warming trends for years and never break a record.
>
>

 

It is? How prey tell? LOL


mike


"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
news:iw2vg.69874$fb2.44819@newssvr27.news.prodigy. net...
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> I defy you to find more than two days out of those two weeks where the
>> current high sets a record for that day in history. If the earth is
>> indeed warming should we not be setting new daily records, yet you will
>> not see more than three in two months? LOL
>>
>> mike hunt
>
> Setting records has nothing to do with averages. It is possible to have
> warming trends for years and never break a record.
>
>

 

Perhaps but the temperate must be going up SOMEWHERE to bring up the
average.


mike hunt


"Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet> wrote in message
news:Xns980443C594CAXz124HiiUdfEEE6@140.99.99.130. ..
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in
> news:YMednZi3_KzTyiHZUSdV9g@ptd.net:
>
>> If we are to go by old weather records, try this. Watch a weather
>> report the shows the highs and lows for the day. Keep a note of the
>> highs for two week in summer. I defy you to find more than two days
>> out of those two weeks where the current high sets a record for that
>> day in history. If the earth is indeed warming should we not be
>> setting new daily records, yet you will not see more than three in two
>> months? LOL
>>
>> mike hunt
>
> Mike, I hate to say it, but your experiment to prove global warming is
> extremely flawed. Some places might not see dramatic changes in
> temperature at all. In fact, some may DROP. We are talking about the
> AVERAGE temperature of the planet right now. Even if global warming gets
> as bad as some predict, the local temperature may not change in some
> places.
>
> Eric

 

Perhaps but the temperate must be going up SOMEWHERE to bring up the
average.


mike hunt


"Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet> wrote in message
news:Xns980443C594CAXz124HiiUdfEEE6@140.99.99.130. ..
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in
> news:YMednZi3_KzTyiHZUSdV9g@ptd.net:
>
>> If we are to go by old weather records, try this. Watch a weather
>> report the shows the highs and lows for the day. Keep a note of the
>> highs for two week in summer. I defy you to find more than two days
>> out of those two weeks where the current high sets a record for that
>> day in history. If the earth is indeed warming should we not be
>> setting new daily records, yet you will not see more than three in two
>> months? LOL
>>
>> mike hunt
>
> Mike, I hate to say it, but your experiment to prove global warming is
> extremely flawed. Some places might not see dramatic changes in
> temperature at all. In fact, some may DROP. We are talking about the
> AVERAGE temperature of the planet right now. Even if global warming gets
> as bad as some predict, the local temperature may not change in some
> places.
>
> Eric

 

Perhaps but the temperate must be going up SOMEWHERE to bring up the
average.


mike hunt


"Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet> wrote in message
news:Xns980443C594CAXz124HiiUdfEEE6@140.99.99.130. ..
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in
> news:YMednZi3_KzTyiHZUSdV9g@ptd.net:
>
>> If we are to go by old weather records, try this. Watch a weather
>> report the shows the highs and lows for the day. Keep a note of the
>> highs for two week in summer. I defy you to find more than two days
>> out of those two weeks where the current high sets a record for that
>> day in history. If the earth is indeed warming should we not be
>> setting new daily records, yet you will not see more than three in two
>> months? LOL
>>
>> mike hunt
>
> Mike, I hate to say it, but your experiment to prove global warming is
> extremely flawed. Some places might not see dramatic changes in
> temperature at all. In fact, some may DROP. We are talking about the
> AVERAGE temperature of the planet right now. Even if global warming gets
> as bad as some predict, the local temperature may not change in some
> places.
>
> Eric

 

Gee I believe you are onto something. When I was a kid, 75 years ago, we
had snow on the ground that came up to my butt. Today it seldom get over my
knees. LOL


mike


"Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet> wrote in message
news:Xns98045537F6304Xz124HiiUdfEEE6@140.99.99.130 ...
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:uK2vg.604$Pa.71192@news1.epix.net:
>
>> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>> I defy you to find more than two days out of those two weeks where
>>>> the
>>>>current high sets a record for that day in history. If the earth is
>>>>indeed warming should we not be setting new daily records, yet you
>>>>will not see more than three in two months? LOL
>>>>
>>>>mike hunt
>>>
>>>
>>> Setting records has nothing to do with averages. It is possible to
>>> have warming trends for years and never break a record.
>>
>> Possible, but extremely unlikely.
>>
>>
>> Matt
>
> If you looking at things seasonally, it would be much less likely to break
> a record in the warmer months. And much more likely to do it in the
> colder
> months. There were WEEKS in a row last winter where records were broken
> all over the United States.
>
> Eric
>

 

Gee I believe you are onto something. When I was a kid, 75 years ago, we
had snow on the ground that came up to my butt. Today it seldom get over my
knees. LOL


mike


"Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet> wrote in message
news:Xns98045537F6304Xz124HiiUdfEEE6@140.99.99.130 ...
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:uK2vg.604$Pa.71192@news1.epix.net:
>
>> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>> I defy you to find more than two days out of those two weeks where
>>>> the
>>>>current high sets a record for that day in history. If the earth is
>>>>indeed warming should we not be setting new daily records, yet you
>>>>will not see more than three in two months? LOL
>>>>
>>>>mike hunt
>>>
>>>
>>> Setting records has nothing to do with averages. It is possible to
>>> have warming trends for years and never break a record.
>>
>> Possible, but extremely unlikely.
>>
>>
>> Matt
>
> If you looking at things seasonally, it would be much less likely to break
> a record in the warmer months. And much more likely to do it in the
> colder
> months. There were WEEKS in a row last winter where records were broken
> all over the United States.
>
> Eric
>