Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>
>>I've seen data to suggest that and I've seen some dissenting data that
>>challenges it. I really don't know what the reality is with regard to
>>global warming, other than it is now more of a political issue than a
>>scientific one. Lots of politicians see a way to make hay with this, Al
>>Gore being at the forefront. They will do whatever they can, including
>>missquoting at least one fairly prominent scientist to further their
>>agenda.
>
>
> All you have to do is look at the photos of many regions of ice packs and
> glaciers. They are melting. There is no doubt that we are warming. The
> real question is, does this come from a natural climate cycles, or is it man
> induced?

Melting glaciers don't at all mean that we are warming globally. It
means the areas with the glaciers are warming. It could be cooler at
the equator and more than offset this on a global scale. You can't look
at one parameter and make such a call on a global scale. Even getting
an accurate global average temperature isn't nearly as trivial as the
global warming crowd would have us believe.


Matt

 

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 04:21:11 GMT, "Andre" <drejal@verizon.net> wrote:

>i think someone should have renamed the first post in this string as "I wish
>to start a debate"

If someone wants to end an argument, the worst thing to say is "the debate
is over", "end of story", or "this thread is closed". etc. Human nature!

--
Bob

 

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 04:21:11 GMT, "Andre" <drejal@verizon.net> wrote:

>i think someone should have renamed the first post in this string as "I wish
>to start a debate"

If someone wants to end an argument, the worst thing to say is "the debate
is over", "end of story", or "this thread is closed". etc. Human nature!

--
Bob

 

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 04:21:11 GMT, "Andre" <drejal@verizon.net> wrote:

>i think someone should have renamed the first post in this string as "I wish
>to start a debate"

If someone wants to end an argument, the worst thing to say is "the debate
is over", "end of story", or "this thread is closed". etc. Human nature!

--
Bob

 

On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 21:17:07 GMT, "Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet>
wrote:

> You are like the biggest cynic on the planet.

Ummm... that's my title. Now my feelings are hurt.
--
Bob

 

On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 21:17:07 GMT, "Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet>
wrote:

> You are like the biggest cynic on the planet.

Ummm... that's my title. Now my feelings are hurt.
--
Bob

 

On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 21:17:07 GMT, "Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet>
wrote:

> You are like the biggest cynic on the planet.

Ummm... that's my title. Now my feelings are hurt.
--
Bob

 

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 00:22:54 GMT, "Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet>
wrote:


>I like the analogy except for one thing: It might be nice to try squash
>again in 5 years, or 20 years, or whatever to see if you might like it
>now. Tastes change. Opinions change. Even facts change sometimes.

Well, you're right. I'll look at Gore's movie again in 20 years.
--
Bob

 

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 00:22:54 GMT, "Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet>
wrote:


>I like the analogy except for one thing: It might be nice to try squash
>again in 5 years, or 20 years, or whatever to see if you might like it
>now. Tastes change. Opinions change. Even facts change sometimes.

Well, you're right. I'll look at Gore's movie again in 20 years.
--
Bob

 

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 00:22:54 GMT, "Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet>
wrote:


>I like the analogy except for one thing: It might be nice to try squash
>again in 5 years, or 20 years, or whatever to see if you might like it
>now. Tastes change. Opinions change. Even facts change sometimes.

Well, you're right. I'll look at Gore's movie again in 20 years.
--
Bob

 

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 10:16:57 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote:


>All you have to do is look at the photos of many regions of ice packs and
>glaciers. They are melting. There is no doubt that we are warming. The
>real question is, does this come from a natural climate cycles, or is it man
>induced?

I'll give the puny humans credit for 1% of it. Volcanoes and solar cycles
can change the weather more in 1 year than man can change it in an entire
century.
--
Bob

 

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 10:16:57 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote:


>All you have to do is look at the photos of many regions of ice packs and
>glaciers. They are melting. There is no doubt that we are warming. The
>real question is, does this come from a natural climate cycles, or is it man
>induced?

I'll give the puny humans credit for 1% of it. Volcanoes and solar cycles
can change the weather more in 1 year than man can change it in an entire
century.
--
Bob

 

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 10:16:57 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote:


>All you have to do is look at the photos of many regions of ice packs and
>glaciers. They are melting. There is no doubt that we are warming. The
>real question is, does this come from a natural climate cycles, or is it man
>induced?

I'll give the puny humans credit for 1% of it. Volcanoes and solar cycles
can change the weather more in 1 year than man can change it in an entire
century.
--
Bob

 

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 20:18:13 GMT, Roy L. Fuchs
<roylfuchs@urfargingicehole.org> wrote:


> Who decides what is profane, and what is not?

Certainly not you Junior. I can't define profanity, but I certainly know it
when I see it.

--
Bob

 

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 20:18:13 GMT, Roy L. Fuchs
<roylfuchs@urfargingicehole.org> wrote:


> Who decides what is profane, and what is not?

Certainly not you Junior. I can't define profanity, but I certainly know it
when I see it.

--
Bob