Eric SAID .......

P.S. - I usually turn over my cars every few years for the plain and simple
reason that I am tired of them. Or something better has come along. I
can't do it with my wife (too expensive).

Good one Eric I too turn my cars over every few years, Better looks better
technology ECT.

I also did it with a wife once !!!!! but it was well worth the
expense...hahahahaha

Tunez





"Eric G." <NgOrSePeAnM99@Zoptonline.Znet> wrote in message
news:Xns97C7DFAD87D55Xz124HiiUdfEEE6@140.99.99.130 ...
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news48bg.8888$lb.804198@news1.epix.net:
>
>> Very true. I also tend to keep my vehicles until "death due us part"
>> and so depreciation is merely a fictitious expense dreamed up by
>> accountants. Now if you are one of those "more money than brains"
>> people who trade cars every year or three, then depreciation is a very
>> real concern.
>>
>>
>> Matt
>
> Man, good thing you put the "more money than brains" in quotes or you
> might
> just have started another flame war :-) Of course, what other reason
> could
> someone have for buying a new car every few years except for having too
> much money and too little brain?
>
> How does someone with such a big brain wind up saying such stupid stuff
> all
> the time? Or do you really believe everything you say?
>
> Hey, you know you are entitled to your opinion. But you probably know
> what
> they say about opinions....
>
> Eric
>
> P.S. - I usually turn over my cars every few years for the plain and
> simple
> reason that I am tired of them. Or something better has come along. I
> can't do it with my wife (too expensive).
>

 

Eric G. wrote:

> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news48bg.8888$lb.804198@news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>Very true. I also tend to keep my vehicles until "death due us part"
>>and so depreciation is merely a fictitious expense dreamed up by
>>accountants. Now if you are one of those "more money than brains"
>>people who trade cars every year or three, then depreciation is a very
>>real concern.
>>
>>
>>Matt
>
>
> Man, good thing you put the "more money than brains" in quotes or you might
> just have started another flame war :-) Of course, what other reason could
> someone have for buying a new car every few years except for having too
> much money and too little brain?
>
> How does someone with such a big brain wind up saying such stupid stuff all
> the time? Or do you really believe everything you say?

Yes, I mean what I say and I say what I mean. I realize that is
becoming increasingly rare in this PC world in which we live, but, hey,
that is me.

Matt

 

Eric G. wrote:

> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news48bg.8888$lb.804198@news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>Very true. I also tend to keep my vehicles until "death due us part"
>>and so depreciation is merely a fictitious expense dreamed up by
>>accountants. Now if you are one of those "more money than brains"
>>people who trade cars every year or three, then depreciation is a very
>>real concern.
>>
>>
>>Matt
>
>
> Man, good thing you put the "more money than brains" in quotes or you might
> just have started another flame war :-) Of course, what other reason could
> someone have for buying a new car every few years except for having too
> much money and too little brain?
>
> How does someone with such a big brain wind up saying such stupid stuff all
> the time? Or do you really believe everything you say?

Yes, I mean what I say and I say what I mean. I realize that is
becoming increasingly rare in this PC world in which we live, but, hey,
that is me.

Matt

 

Eric G. wrote:

> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news48bg.8888$lb.804198@news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>Very true. I also tend to keep my vehicles until "death due us part"
>>and so depreciation is merely a fictitious expense dreamed up by
>>accountants. Now if you are one of those "more money than brains"
>>people who trade cars every year or three, then depreciation is a very
>>real concern.
>>
>>
>>Matt
>
>
> Man, good thing you put the "more money than brains" in quotes or you might
> just have started another flame war :-) Of course, what other reason could
> someone have for buying a new car every few years except for having too
> much money and too little brain?
>
> How does someone with such a big brain wind up saying such stupid stuff all
> the time? Or do you really believe everything you say?

Yes, I mean what I say and I say what I mean. I realize that is
becoming increasingly rare in this PC world in which we live, but, hey,
that is me.

Matt

 

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news48bg.8888$lb.804198@news1.epix.net...

>
> Very true. I also tend to keep my vehicles until "death due us part"
> and so depreciation is merely a fictitious expense dreamed up by
> accountants.

I like depreciation. I buy my cars 1-2 years old and I like those cars that
take a nice first year hit.

> Now if you are one of those "more money than brains"
> people who trade cars every year or three, then depreciation is a very
> real concern.
>

More money than brains? That's what I used to think too,, but the more I
work on cars now, the more I believe those folks may not be so stupid.
Drive 'em trade 'em in before you have to do *anything* to them, and go
about the other things in life. What the heck - a car payment is a car
payment. Why worry about depreciation if you're resigned to a car payment
for the rest of your life.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

 

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news48bg.8888$lb.804198@news1.epix.net...

>
> Very true. I also tend to keep my vehicles until "death due us part"
> and so depreciation is merely a fictitious expense dreamed up by
> accountants.

I like depreciation. I buy my cars 1-2 years old and I like those cars that
take a nice first year hit.

> Now if you are one of those "more money than brains"
> people who trade cars every year or three, then depreciation is a very
> real concern.
>

More money than brains? That's what I used to think too,, but the more I
work on cars now, the more I believe those folks may not be so stupid.
Drive 'em trade 'em in before you have to do *anything* to them, and go
about the other things in life. What the heck - a car payment is a car
payment. Why worry about depreciation if you're resigned to a car payment
for the rest of your life.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

 

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news48bg.8888$lb.804198@news1.epix.net...

>
> Very true. I also tend to keep my vehicles until "death due us part"
> and so depreciation is merely a fictitious expense dreamed up by
> accountants.

I like depreciation. I buy my cars 1-2 years old and I like those cars that
take a nice first year hit.

> Now if you are one of those "more money than brains"
> people who trade cars every year or three, then depreciation is a very
> real concern.
>

More money than brains? That's what I used to think too,, but the more I
work on cars now, the more I believe those folks may not be so stupid.
Drive 'em trade 'em in before you have to do *anything* to them, and go
about the other things in life. What the heck - a car payment is a car
payment. Why worry about depreciation if you're resigned to a car payment
for the rest of your life.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

 

Mike Marlow wrote:

> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news48bg.8888$lb.804198@news1.epix.net...
>
>
>>Very true. I also tend to keep my vehicles until "death due us part"
>>and so depreciation is merely a fictitious expense dreamed up by
>>accountants.
>
>
> I like depreciation. I buy my cars 1-2 years old and I like those cars that
> take a nice first year hit.

Yes, you obviously have more brains than money. :-)


>>Now if you are one of those "more money than brains"
>>people who trade cars every year or three, then depreciation is a very
>>real concern.
>>
>
>
> More money than brains? That's what I used to think too,, but the more I
> work on cars now, the more I believe those folks may not be so stupid.
> Drive 'em trade 'em in before you have to do *anything* to them, and go
> about the other things in life. What the heck - a car payment is a car
> payment. Why worry about depreciation if you're resigned to a car payment
> for the rest of your life.

Well, I've owned, I think, five vehicles now that I purchased brand new.
Let me think - 84 Accord, 86 Comanche, 89 Acclaim, 94 K1500 and 2006
Sonata, yep, five, oh, 8 if you count motorcycles!. I've had more
trouble and more trips to the dealer per unit time during the first
three years of ownership of the new vehicles, than during any three year
time I've owned any of the vehicles that were more than three years old,
with only one exception. When my 96 minivan had an intermittent fuel
pump problem at the 150,000 mile mark, I had it in the shop 4 times in
less than a year before they found the problem.

So, I my personal experience doesn't bear out the "new car is less
trouble" theory. My vehicles have typically been most reliable in the
3-8 years of age and 40 - 150K miles range. That is one reason that you
see my new car purchase spacing getting ever longer. :-) Three kids to
tear up vehicles is the other reason!

Matt

 

Mike Marlow wrote:

> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news48bg.8888$lb.804198@news1.epix.net...
>
>
>>Very true. I also tend to keep my vehicles until "death due us part"
>>and so depreciation is merely a fictitious expense dreamed up by
>>accountants.
>
>
> I like depreciation. I buy my cars 1-2 years old and I like those cars that
> take a nice first year hit.

Yes, you obviously have more brains than money. :-)


>>Now if you are one of those "more money than brains"
>>people who trade cars every year or three, then depreciation is a very
>>real concern.
>>
>
>
> More money than brains? That's what I used to think too,, but the more I
> work on cars now, the more I believe those folks may not be so stupid.
> Drive 'em trade 'em in before you have to do *anything* to them, and go
> about the other things in life. What the heck - a car payment is a car
> payment. Why worry about depreciation if you're resigned to a car payment
> for the rest of your life.

Well, I've owned, I think, five vehicles now that I purchased brand new.
Let me think - 84 Accord, 86 Comanche, 89 Acclaim, 94 K1500 and 2006
Sonata, yep, five, oh, 8 if you count motorcycles!. I've had more
trouble and more trips to the dealer per unit time during the first
three years of ownership of the new vehicles, than during any three year
time I've owned any of the vehicles that were more than three years old,
with only one exception. When my 96 minivan had an intermittent fuel
pump problem at the 150,000 mile mark, I had it in the shop 4 times in
less than a year before they found the problem.

So, I my personal experience doesn't bear out the "new car is less
trouble" theory. My vehicles have typically been most reliable in the
3-8 years of age and 40 - 150K miles range. That is one reason that you
see my new car purchase spacing getting ever longer. :-) Three kids to
tear up vehicles is the other reason!

Matt

 

Mike Marlow wrote:

> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news48bg.8888$lb.804198@news1.epix.net...
>
>
>>Very true. I also tend to keep my vehicles until "death due us part"
>>and so depreciation is merely a fictitious expense dreamed up by
>>accountants.
>
>
> I like depreciation. I buy my cars 1-2 years old and I like those cars that
> take a nice first year hit.

Yes, you obviously have more brains than money. :-)


>>Now if you are one of those "more money than brains"
>>people who trade cars every year or three, then depreciation is a very
>>real concern.
>>
>
>
> More money than brains? That's what I used to think too,, but the more I
> work on cars now, the more I believe those folks may not be so stupid.
> Drive 'em trade 'em in before you have to do *anything* to them, and go
> about the other things in life. What the heck - a car payment is a car
> payment. Why worry about depreciation if you're resigned to a car payment
> for the rest of your life.

Well, I've owned, I think, five vehicles now that I purchased brand new.
Let me think - 84 Accord, 86 Comanche, 89 Acclaim, 94 K1500 and 2006
Sonata, yep, five, oh, 8 if you count motorcycles!. I've had more
trouble and more trips to the dealer per unit time during the first
three years of ownership of the new vehicles, than during any three year
time I've owned any of the vehicles that were more than three years old,
with only one exception. When my 96 minivan had an intermittent fuel
pump problem at the 150,000 mile mark, I had it in the shop 4 times in
less than a year before they found the problem.

So, I my personal experience doesn't bear out the "new car is less
trouble" theory. My vehicles have typically been most reliable in the
3-8 years of age and 40 - 150K miles range. That is one reason that you
see my new car purchase spacing getting ever longer. :-) Three kids to
tear up vehicles is the other reason!

Matt

 

"Christopher Wong" <cwong@world.std.com> wrote in message
news:8a-dndYpwJU1sPDZRVn-hA@rcn.net...
> On 2006-05-18, JPH <jphagcanbereached@***.net> wrote:
> > Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
> >> http://foxnews.smartmoney.com/ask/in...story=20060516
> >>
> > I didn't find the story at that link, but did find it at this longer
link;
> > http://foxnews.smartmoney.com/ask/in...story=20060516
>
> Hyundai and Kia suffer from one specific disadvantage in resale value:
their
> warranty. Your shiny new Hyundai is a used car the moment you drive it off
> the lot. That means when it's sold, the 10/100 powertrain warranty
> evaporates, leaving you with the basic 5/60. Ever tried to purchase a 5
year
> powertrain warranty on a used car? That is the equivalent value lost in
the
> transition between new and used.
>

Huh? You lost me with that logic Chris. The Hyundai comes with the 5/60
power train warranty used, and you would have to purchase that with most
other used cars. How is that a depreciation factor? Hyundai and Kia suffer
steep depreciation because of the reliability issues in their earlier years.
The quality of these cars has come up enormously in the past few years and
as a result the depreciation is starting to reflect that. In a short time
you will see them depreciating no more steeply than any other car in their
class.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

 

"Christopher Wong" <cwong@world.std.com> wrote in message
news:8a-dndYpwJU1sPDZRVn-hA@rcn.net...
> On 2006-05-18, JPH <jphagcanbereached@***.net> wrote:
> > Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
> >> http://foxnews.smartmoney.com/ask/in...story=20060516
> >>
> > I didn't find the story at that link, but did find it at this longer
link;
> > http://foxnews.smartmoney.com/ask/in...story=20060516
>
> Hyundai and Kia suffer from one specific disadvantage in resale value:
their
> warranty. Your shiny new Hyundai is a used car the moment you drive it off
> the lot. That means when it's sold, the 10/100 powertrain warranty
> evaporates, leaving you with the basic 5/60. Ever tried to purchase a 5
year
> powertrain warranty on a used car? That is the equivalent value lost in
the
> transition between new and used.
>

Huh? You lost me with that logic Chris. The Hyundai comes with the 5/60
power train warranty used, and you would have to purchase that with most
other used cars. How is that a depreciation factor? Hyundai and Kia suffer
steep depreciation because of the reliability issues in their earlier years.
The quality of these cars has come up enormously in the past few years and
as a result the depreciation is starting to reflect that. In a short time
you will see them depreciating no more steeply than any other car in their
class.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

 

"Christopher Wong" <cwong@world.std.com> wrote in message
news:8a-dndYpwJU1sPDZRVn-hA@rcn.net...
> On 2006-05-18, JPH <jphagcanbereached@***.net> wrote:
> > Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
> >> http://foxnews.smartmoney.com/ask/in...story=20060516
> >>
> > I didn't find the story at that link, but did find it at this longer
link;
> > http://foxnews.smartmoney.com/ask/in...story=20060516
>
> Hyundai and Kia suffer from one specific disadvantage in resale value:
their
> warranty. Your shiny new Hyundai is a used car the moment you drive it off
> the lot. That means when it's sold, the 10/100 powertrain warranty
> evaporates, leaving you with the basic 5/60. Ever tried to purchase a 5
year
> powertrain warranty on a used car? That is the equivalent value lost in
the
> transition between new and used.
>

Huh? You lost me with that logic Chris. The Hyundai comes with the 5/60
power train warranty used, and you would have to purchase that with most
other used cars. How is that a depreciation factor? Hyundai and Kia suffer
steep depreciation because of the reliability issues in their earlier years.
The quality of these cars has come up enormously in the past few years and
as a result the depreciation is starting to reflect that. In a short time
you will see them depreciating no more steeply than any other car in their
class.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

 

"Michael" <mcb4u@hotmail.com> wrote in news:ubadnXB2lfeHnfPZRVn-
hA@comcast.com:

> Eric G. wrote:
>> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
>> news48bg.8888$lb.804198@news1.epix.net:
>> P.S. - I usually turn over my cars every few years for the plain and
>> simple reason that I am tired of them. Or something better has come
>> along. I can't do it with my wife (too expensive).
>
> Hmmm, a car is a tool , nobody "gets tired" of a tool ...... you can
> tell
> yourself what you want though .

When a better tool comes along, something that makes the day-to-day use of
that tool more desireable, and I get to try the new tool, yes, I do get
tired of the old one rather quickly.

When it is not costly to keep it, I will keep the old tool for future use,
but with limited space and finances, keeping a car around forever isn't
really practical.

Thanks for your opinon though.

Eric

 

"Michael" <mcb4u@hotmail.com> wrote in news:ubadnXB2lfeHnfPZRVn-
hA@comcast.com:

> Eric G. wrote:
>> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
>> news48bg.8888$lb.804198@news1.epix.net:
>> P.S. - I usually turn over my cars every few years for the plain and
>> simple reason that I am tired of them. Or something better has come
>> along. I can't do it with my wife (too expensive).
>
> Hmmm, a car is a tool , nobody "gets tired" of a tool ...... you can
> tell
> yourself what you want though .

When a better tool comes along, something that makes the day-to-day use of
that tool more desireable, and I get to try the new tool, yes, I do get
tired of the old one rather quickly.

When it is not costly to keep it, I will keep the old tool for future use,
but with limited space and finances, keeping a car around forever isn't
really practical.

Thanks for your opinon though.

Eric