twfsa

How many miles will the newer Hyundai's run before there ready for the bone
yard, altho the quaility is up from the first generations, there's never
going to be any re-sale value, as in a Honda or a Toyota.It would be nice if
they would run 200K with maintance.

So if I were to buy a Hyundai I would have to run it in the ground, or trade
it on another Hyundai.

Tom

Dances With Crows

On Mon, 30 May 2005 16:13:06 -0500, twfsa staggered into the Black Sun
and said:
> How many miles will the newer Hyundai's run

's is not a plural marker. You mean "Hyundais" here.

> before there ready for the bone yard, altho the quaility

This is a run-on sentence. You want a "?" after "bone yard". Use a
speling checker, and remember that "there" != "they're" != "their", eh?

> is up from the first generations, there's never going to be any
> re-sale value, as in a Honda or a Toyota.

1975: "Japanese cars suck! Honda cars/motorcycles are *never* going to
have the resale value of Ford/Chevy cars!"

Stuff changes. I'd say Hyundai (now) = Honda (1985) . ICBW.

> It would be nice if they [Hyundai cars] would run 200K [miles] with
> [regular maintenance.]

Since recent Hyundai cars sold in the USA have a 60,000 mile
bumper-to-bumper warranty and a 100,000 mile powertrain warranty, I
don't think 200,000 miles is out of the question. I can't speak for
this, though, as my Tiburon is only 2.2 years old and only has 22,000
miles on it. I *can* say that it's had zero mechanical problems except
for the time I ran over a raccoon, which caused $80 worth of trim
damage.

> So if I were to buy a Hyundai I would have to run it in the ground, or
> trade it on another Hyundai.

Can you provide supporting evidence for this statement? Or did you mean
"If I were to buy a Hyundai, would I have to run it into the ground?" ?

Cars depreciate faster than anything except computer equipment. Given
that, the smart thing to do from a pure financial standpoint is this:
Buy a car that has a good repair record and is 1 or 2 years old, then
drive that car until it falls apart. This means you can't show off a
new car every 3 years, but it also means you will spend much less money
on cars. YMMV, naturally.

If you want specific advice, you need to say what model you're
interested in, what your plans are, and what's important to you. HTH,

--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Yesterday upon the stair, I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today -- I think he's from the CIA.

Jody

no one can predict how long a car will last with out breaking down, but we
have a 99 accent with 90 000 miles and doesnt use a drop of oil.
were about to put new clutch in soon
"twfsa" <uksatw@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:ClLme.2836$rb6.2804@lakeread07...
> How many miles will the newer Hyundai's run before there ready for the
> bone yard, altho the quaility is up from the first generations, there's
> never going to be any re-sale value, as in a Honda or a Toyota.It would be
> nice if they would run 200K with maintance.
>
> So if I were to buy a Hyundai I would have to run it in the ground, or
> trade it on another Hyundai.
>
> Tom
>
>

Jozef

FWIW. My 1996 Hyundai Accent is at 193,050 miles and going strong. My wife
says that she intends to prevent me from catching up to her machine a 1993
Subaru Impreza with 213,200 miles. The Accent owes me nothing considering I
paid $7.5K for it when brand new in 1996. At a consistent 40 - 43 mpg on
the highway the machine long ago delivered its value.

Jozef
Vermont

"Dances With Crows" <danSPANceswitTRAPhcrows@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:slrnd9n1rp.8m5.danSPANceswitTRAPhcrows@samant ha.crow202.dyndns.org...
> On Mon, 30 May 2005 16:13:06 -0500, twfsa staggered into the Black Sun
> and said:
>> How many miles will the newer Hyundai's run
>
> 's is not a plural marker. You mean "Hyundais" here.
>
>> before there ready for the bone yard, altho the quaility
>
> This is a run-on sentence. You want a "?" after "bone yard". Use a
> speling checker, and remember that "there" != "they're" != "their", eh?
>
>> is up from the first generations, there's never going to be any
>> re-sale value, as in a Honda or a Toyota.
>
> 1975: "Japanese cars suck! Honda cars/motorcycles are *never* going to
> have the resale value of Ford/Chevy cars!"
>
> Stuff changes. I'd say Hyundai (now) = Honda (1985) . ICBW.
>
>> It would be nice if they [Hyundai cars] would run 200K [miles] with
>> [regular maintenance.]
>
> Since recent Hyundai cars sold in the USA have a 60,000 mile
> bumper-to-bumper warranty and a 100,000 mile powertrain warranty, I
> don't think 200,000 miles is out of the question. I can't speak for
> this, though, as my Tiburon is only 2.2 years old and only has 22,000
> miles on it. I *can* say that it's had zero mechanical problems except
> for the time I ran over a raccoon, which caused $80 worth of trim
> damage.
>
>> So if I were to buy a Hyundai I would have to run it in the ground, or
>> trade it on another Hyundai.
>
> Can you provide supporting evidence for this statement? Or did you mean
> "If I were to buy a Hyundai, would I have to run it into the ground?" ?
>
> Cars depreciate faster than anything except computer equipment. Given
> that, the smart thing to do from a pure financial standpoint is this:
> Buy a car that has a good repair record and is 1 or 2 years old, then
> drive that car until it falls apart. This means you can't show off a
> new car every 3 years, but it also means you will spend much less money
> on cars. YMMV, naturally.
>
> If you want specific advice, you need to say what model you're
> interested in, what your plans are, and what's important to you. HTH,
>
> --
> Matt G|There is no Darkness in eternity/But only Light too dim for us to
> see
> Yesterday upon the stair, I met a man who wasn't there.
> He wasn't there again today -- I think he's from the CIA.

RSCamaro

On Mon, 30 May 2005 16:13:06 -0500, "twfsa" <uksatw@qwest.net> wrote:

>How many miles will the newer Hyundai's run before there ready for the bone
>yard, altho the quaility is up from the first generations, there's never
>going to be any re-sale value, as in a Honda or a Toyota.It would be nice if
>they would run 200K with maintance.
>
>So if I were to buy a Hyundai I would have to run it in the ground, or trade
>it on another Hyundai.
>
>Tom

When I met my wife she was driving a 92' or 93' Excel which had about
150,000 on the clock when it was wrecked. We replaced it with a 97'
Tiburon that now has over 180,000 on the ticker, granted it has
nowhere near the power that it had when we bought it, but I think that
it will make it to the 200,000 mark unless it too gets replaced.

The only mechanical problems to date have been 2 alternaters and some
cooling issues (left the fluid in too long and had to replace the
hoses). Just the recommended maintainance at their proper intervals,
you know tires, brakes, timing belts, and the like. It still has the
factory clutch. If someone can tell me how to do that on my Camaro,
Firebird, and Mustang I'd be the happiest guy on the block.

...Ron
--
68' Camaro RS
88' Firebird Formula
00' Mustang GT Vert

Richard Steinfeld

Dances With Crows wrote:
> On Mon, 30 May 2005 16:13:06 -0500, twfsa staggered into the Black Sun
> and said:
>
>>How many miles will the newer Hyundai's run
>

> 's is not a plural marker. You mean "Hyundais" here.
>
>
>>before there ready for the bone yard, altho the quaility
>
>
> This is a run-on sentence. You want a "?" after "bone yard". Use a
> speling checker, and remember that "there" != "they're" != "their", eh?
>
>
>>is up from the first generations, there's never going to be any
>>re-sale value, as in a Honda or a Toyota.
>

OK. Look. Yeah: it's a real pain to have to read peoples' bad use of
English on the Internet and try to figure out what they mean. Misuse of
apostrophes is galling to me too, since I attempt to write clearly and
have acquired a reputation for effective writing.

I feel that before a person posts, that person should learn how to write
English. It's not that hard. However, I'll allow that for some folks,
it's harder than for others.

However, and note this well: it's _also_ a pain to have to read
excessive verbiage auto-tagged onto the beginnings and ends of posts,
as, "...-0500, twfsa staggered into the Black Sun and said:" Out of
kindness, I'll refrain from calling this blather what it is... This is
worse, you know, than "Do you Yahoo?" since, after all, this is
essentially a joke between you and yourself: you have control over it.
It's just excessive blather to others. I really don't give a flying f---
about your private in-jokes.

Give me a break: please put yourself into the shoes of others and stop
this, especially before you pick at other posters' scabs for their bad
netequette.

Your points about cars, however, are well-taken.

>
> 1975: "Japanese cars suck! Honda cars/motorcycles are *never* going to
> have the resale value of Ford/Chevy cars!"
>
> Stuff changes. I'd say Hyundai (now) = Honda (1985) . ICBW.
>
>
>>It would be nice if they [Hyundai cars] would run 200K [miles] with
>>[regular maintenance.]
>
>
> Since recent Hyundai cars sold in the USA have a 60,000 mile
> bumper-to-bumper warranty and a 100,000 mile powertrain warranty, I
> don't think 200,000 miles is out of the question. I can't speak for
> this, though, as my Tiburon is only 2.2 years old and only has 22,000
> miles on it. I *can* say that it's had zero mechanical problems except
> for the time I ran over a raccoon, which caused $80 worth of trim
> damage.
>
>
>>So if I were to buy a Hyundai I would have to run it in the ground, or
>>trade it on another Hyundai.
>
>
> Can you provide supporting evidence for this statement? Or did you mean
> "If I were to buy a Hyundai, would I have to run it into the ground?" ?
>

"Supporting evidence?" Is the OP on trial?


> Cars depreciate faster than anything except computer equipment. Given
> that, the smart thing to do from a pure financial standpoint is this:
> Buy a car that has a good repair record and is 1 or 2 years old, then
> drive that car until it falls apart. This means you can't show off a
> new car every 3 years, but it also means you will spend much less money
> on cars. YMMV, naturally.
>
> If you want specific advice, you need to say what model you're
> interested in, what your plans are, and what's important to you. HTH,
>

Valid (I can pass judgment, too).

I'll add:
I bought a 2000 Sonata with 107k on the clock. It's in excellent shape
for its age; obviously driven mostly on the freeway. The underside steel
looks like new. However, contrast this with a car driven 100,000 miles
through New York City potholes and slush. Cars will, of course, wear
very differently in different climates, different terrain, and different
driving conditions. It's complicated.

Back in Connecticut during the 60s, I saw people having their Borgwards
and Peugeots rebuilt at 200,000 miles. Undoubtedly Volvos, too (the
first two were built like German and French Volvos, respectively). Some
cars are really built to last. I'm not sure that the jury's in about
Hyundai yet -- from reading over the Consumer Reports charts, I get the
sense that Hyundai hasn't fallen into a groove yet. Those charts are, in
my opinion, built on rickety information. Nonetheless, with a grain of
salt, one can spot trends with them.

Richard

Andy

well... i can say only best thigs about endurance and quality, my
hyundai accent (2001 1,3 liter 75hp) had 62000 km in less then 3 years
- (now it is RIP, a truck hit it with 70km/h speed in the back end, 4
girls wore in there without injury, the car was stoped at red light) -
(at begining of second it had 47000 km then my wife got her car) ...
we had no trouble only oilchanges and thats it... i know of one
security company in croatia that uses hyundai accents for it cars ...
they run 24hour a day, only time they are not working is when they are
changing oil or geting fuel ... they make 100.000 km or more a year...

and one of colegues that i know over internet had 600.000 km on its
accent (1996/97 i think and i checked that fackt at servise center and
they did confirm it...) and then it changed only some rubber on engine
and likes and it runs even today wizhout complete overhoul... only
regular service...

Andy

twfsa

Matt G
Do you have any friends that you can carry on a conversation with, without
correcting there use of the English ????.

My guess is no....... Maybe you and Richard Steinfeld can get together, and
instance message each other and correct each others grammar.

In the future if you see a post of mine ignore it please.

Tom
"Dances With Crows" <danSPANceswitTRAPhcrows@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:slrnd9n1rp.8m5.danSPANceswitTRAPhcrows@samant ha.crow202.dyndns.org...
> On Mon, 30 May 2005 16:13:06 -0500, twfsa staggered into the Black Sun
> and said:
>> How many miles will the newer Hyundai's run
>
> 's is not a plural marker. You mean "Hyundais" here.
>
>> before there ready for the bone yard, altho the quaility
>
> This is a run-on sentence. You want a "?" after "bone yard". Use a
> speling checker, and remember that "there" != "they're" != "their", eh?
>
>> is up from the first generations, there's never going to be any
>> re-sale value, as in a Honda or a Toyota.
>
> 1975: "Japanese cars suck! Honda cars/motorcycles are *never* going to
> have the resale value of Ford/Chevy cars!"
>
> Stuff changes. I'd say Hyundai (now) = Honda (1985) . ICBW.
>
>> It would be nice if they [Hyundai cars] would run 200K [miles] with
>> [regular maintenance.]
>
> Since recent Hyundai cars sold in the USA have a 60,000 mile
> bumper-to-bumper warranty and a 100,000 mile powertrain warranty, I
> don't think 200,000 miles is out of the question. I can't speak for
> this, though, as my Tiburon is only 2.2 years old and only has 22,000
> miles on it. I *can* say that it's had zero mechanical problems except
> for the time I ran over a raccoon, which caused $80 worth of trim
> damage.
>
>> So if I were to buy a Hyundai I would have to run it in the ground, or
>> trade it on another Hyundai.
>
> Can you provide supporting evidence for this statement? Or did you mean
> "If I were to buy a Hyundai, would I have to run it into the ground?" ?
>
> Cars depreciate faster than anything except computer equipment. Given
> that, the smart thing to do from a pure financial standpoint is this:
> Buy a car that has a good repair record and is 1 or 2 years old, then
> drive that car until it falls apart. This means you can't show off a
> new car every 3 years, but it also means you will spend much less money
> on cars. YMMV, naturally.
>
> If you want specific advice, you need to say what model you're
> interested in, what your plans are, and what's important to you. HTH,
>
> --
> Matt G|There is no Darkness in eternity/But only Light too dim for us to
> see
> Yesterday upon the stair, I met a man who wasn't there.
> He wasn't there again today -- I think he's from the CIA.

Richard Steinfeld

Dances with whatever wrote:

> Matt G
> Do you have any friends that you can carry on a conversation with, without
> correcting there use of the English ????.
>
> My guess is no....... Maybe you and Richard Steinfeld can get together, and
> instance message each other and correct each others grammar.
>

Missed my point, whoever you are.
I called you on your high-handed putdown of another poster -- his
grammer was bad. But you were hypercritical -- he's wasting peoples'
time with his awful English. You, who, after all, by criticizing him,
should know better, are wasting others' time with your textual
masturbation, as:

"There is no Darkness in eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Yesterday upon the stair, I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today -- I think he's from the CIA."

Now, why on earth does anyone else want to read this waste of bandwidth?
The purpose of writing is to communicate -- and there are actually
people, real people, at the other end of that process. I am not a
figment of your imagination. I'm saying don't waste the time and
patience of other people with drivel.

> In the future if you see a post of mine ignore it please.
>
> Tom
> "Dances With Crows"

Done.

Richard

Dan

My 97 Tiburon has just passed the 250,000 mile mark and is still running
strong. It uses about a quart of oil every 1000 miles, but I don't
consider that excessive for a car with this many miles on it. I bought
the car new so I know what has been repaired over the years. During its'
in-warranty period, the throttle position sensor was out of spec which
caused a couple visits to the dealer. Also, the clutch master cylinder
went out at about 45,000 miles and was replaced by the dealer. The first
"major" repair (that I had to pay for) was replacing the alternator at
170,000 miles. The only other major repair I had to contend with was a
failed clutch throw-out bearing at 230,000 miles. As amazing as it
sounds, when I dropped the transmission and removed the clutch there was
virtually no wear to the disk or pressure plate, but I replaced it all
anyway. I have never before owned a car that is as reliable as my
Tiburon. I have a spare engine sitting in my garage (a 2000cc from a '99
Elantra with 43,000 miles on it) in anticipation of the day when this
power plant finally does give up, but at this point, it doesn't seem
like that will be any time soon.

twfsa

My daughter bought a 04 Sonata she goes no where, but happens to put on 23k
a year, I was concerned the car would be wore out before its paid for.

Thanks for your reply.

Tom


"Dan" <dan@notgoingtotell.net> wrote in message
news:ti1ne.29682$6g3.14186@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> My 97 Tiburon has just passed the 250,000 mile mark and is still running
> strong. It uses about a quart of oil every 1000 miles, but I don't
> consider that excessive for a car with this many miles on it. I bought the
> car new so I know what has been repaired over the years. During its'
> in-warranty period, the throttle position sensor was out of spec which
> caused a couple visits to the dealer. Also, the clutch master cylinder
> went out at about 45,000 miles and was replaced by the dealer. The first
> "major" repair (that I had to pay for) was replacing the alternator at
> 170,000 miles. The only other major repair I had to contend with was a
> failed clutch throw-out bearing at 230,000 miles. As amazing as it sounds,
> when I dropped the transmission and removed the clutch there was virtually
> no wear to the disk or pressure plate, but I replaced it all anyway. I
> have never before owned a car that is as reliable as my Tiburon. I have a
> spare engine sitting in my garage (a 2000cc from a '99 Elantra with 43,000
> miles on it) in anticipation of the day when this power plant finally does
> give up, but at this point, it doesn't seem like that will be any time
> soon.

Dances With Crows

On 31 May 2005 12:28:03 -0500, Richard Steinfeld scribbled:
> Dances with whatever wrote:

Er, I didn't. "twfsa" or uksatw@qwest.net wrote the paragraphs with >>
in front of them. This is why people are supposed to pay attention to
the attribution lines at the top of messages, you know.

>> Matt G Do you have any friends that you can carry on a conversation
>> with, without correcting there use of the English ????. My guess is
>> no....... Maybe you and Richard Steinfeld can get together, and

"twfsa" / uksatw@qwest.net, work on your composition skills. Lots of
people write badly because nobody ever calls them on it when they write
badly. Or you can continue writing badly--makes little difference to
me.

> You, who, after all, by criticizing him, should know better, are
> wasting others' time with your textual masturbation, as:
>
> "There is no Darkness in eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
> Yesterday upon the stair, I met a man who wasn't there.
> He wasn't there again today -- I think he's from the CIA."
>
> Now, why on earth does anyone else want to read this waste of
> bandwidth?

That was in my .signature, which is properly delimited and McQuary
convention compliant. .signatures have been used in mail and news since
the mid-1980s to provide contact info, funny quotes, silly quotes, or
ASCII art to readers. The general rule for Usenet AFAICT is that you
can put *anything* in a .signature as long as it's properly delimited
and <= 4 lines with each line <= 80 characters.

Thunderbird should have at least a few useful syntax-highlighting
features. It should display properly delimited signature text in a
different color from regular message text, for example. In fact,
Richard, you should be able to set up Thunderbird to show or hide
people's signatures, whichever you want. Or you can continue
complaining. Whatever works for you.

> The purpose of writing is to communicate -- and there are actually
> people, real people, at the other end of that process. I am not a
> figment of your imagination. I'm saying don't waste the time and
> patience of other people with drivel.

Complaining about a person's .signature, if that .signature is properly
delimited and follows length guidelines, is a bit like complaining about
a bumper sticker that's on a person's car. If .signatures offend you,
turn 'em off. If people offend you, killfile them.

>> In the future if you see a post of mine ignore it please.
> Done.

Shouldn't you be killfiling *me*, not *him*? Whatever you want.

--
[This .signature removed because Richard Steinfeld hates .signatures]

twfsa

Dances with whatever

I could care less if my writing skills are not up to your standards, or
people like you, and I will continue to write badly,not intentionally of
course and, people such as yourself that take it upon themselves, to try and
correct and criticize people like me can go Fist themselves,... and
that's referring to you ... incase I am confusing you!

Tom.


"Dances With Crows" <danSPANceswitTRAPhcrows@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:slrnd9pagt.d4b.danSPANceswitTRAPhcrows@samant ha.crow202.dyndns.org...
> On 31 May 2005 12:28:03 -0500, Richard Steinfeld scribbled:
>> Dances with whatever wrote:
>
> Er, I didn't. "twfsa" or uksatw@qwest.net wrote the paragraphs with >>
> in front of them. This is why people are supposed to pay attention to
> the attribution lines at the top of messages, you know.
>
>>> Matt G Do you have any friends that you can carry on a conversation
>>> with, without correcting there use of the English ????. My guess is
>>> no....... Maybe you and Richard Steinfeld can get together, and
>
> "twfsa" / uksatw@qwest.net, work on your composition skills. Lots of
> people write badly because nobody ever calls them on it when they write
> badly. Or you can continue writing badly--makes little difference to
> me.
>
>> You, who, after all, by criticizing him, should know better, are
>> wasting others' time with your textual masturbation, as:
>>
>> "There is no Darkness in eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
>> Yesterday upon the stair, I met a man who wasn't there.
>> He wasn't there again today -- I think he's from the CIA."
>>
>> Now, why on earth does anyone else want to read this waste of
>> bandwidth?
>
> That was in my .signature, which is properly delimited and McQuary
> convention compliant. .signatures have been used in mail and news since
> the mid-1980s to provide contact info, funny quotes, silly quotes, or
> ASCII art to readers. The general rule for Usenet AFAICT is that you
> can put *anything* in a .signature as long as it's properly delimited
> and <= 4 lines with each line <= 80 characters.
>
> Thunderbird should have at least a few useful syntax-highlighting
> features. It should display properly delimited signature text in a
> different color from regular message text, for example. In fact,
> Richard, you should be able to set up Thunderbird to show or hide
> people's signatures, whichever you want. Or you can continue
> complaining. Whatever works for you.
>
>> The purpose of writing is to communicate -- and there are actually
>> people, real people, at the other end of that process. I am not a
>> figment of your imagination. I'm saying don't waste the time and
>> patience of other people with drivel.
>
> Complaining about a person's .signature, if that .signature is properly
> delimited and follows length guidelines, is a bit like complaining about
> a bumper sticker that's on a person's car. If .signatures offend you,
> turn 'em off. If people offend you, killfile them.
>
>>> In the future if you see a post of mine ignore it please.
>> Done.
>
> Shouldn't you be killfiling *me*, not *him*? Whatever you want.
>
> --
> [This .signature removed because Richard Steinfeld hates .signatures]

illusion123a

That good to know, i have a 2002 accent, my transmission dosent seem to
shift as well as it used to, i hope this isnt a signs of things to come,
but for now I am happy that i bought the 100k bumper to bumper warrenty.
But I do see my self getting a new car and keeping my accent as a second
car (I got the accent in college and have a little more $$ now)

Harry Smith

The Sonatas did *not* have quality or reliability problems in the
'89-91 era. Maybe it helped that they were built in Canada? At any
rate, we have an '89 Sonata with 308,500 miles on it that I am driving
daily. Rebuilt cylinder head at about 260,000, and some rust repair a
couple of times (we're in the upper midwest -- lots of road salt), but
I'm planning to drive it 2500 miles to Canada -- pulling our enclosed
trailer. Now *that's* quality, for my money!

Harry
==============
Jozef wrote:
> FWIW. My 1996 Hyundai Accent is at 193,050 miles and going strong. My wife
> says that she intends to prevent me from catching up to her machine a 1993
> Subaru Impreza with 213,200 miles. The Accent owes me nothing considering I
> paid $7.5K for it when brand new in 1996. At a consistent 40 - 43 mpg on
> the highway the machine long ago delivered its value.
>
> Jozef
> Vermont
>
> "Dances With Crows" <danSPANceswitTRAPhcrows@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:slrnd9n1rp.8m5.danSPANceswitTRAPhcrows@samant ha.crow202.dyndns.org...
>
>>On Mon, 30 May 2005 16:13:06 -0500, twfsa staggered into the Black Sun
>>and said:
>>
>>>How many miles will the newer Hyundai's run
>>
>>'s is not a plural marker. You mean "Hyundais" here.
>>
>>
>>>before there ready for the bone yard, altho the quaility
>>
>>This is a run-on sentence. You want a "?" after "bone yard". Use a
>>speling checker, and remember that "there" != "they're" != "their", eh?
>>
>>
>>>is up from the first generations, there's never going to be any
>>>re-sale value, as in a Honda or a Toyota.
>>
>>1975: "Japanese cars suck! Honda cars/motorcycles are *never* going to
>>have the resale value of Ford/Chevy cars!"
>>
>>Stuff changes. I'd say Hyundai (now) = Honda (1985) . ICBW.
>>
>>
>>>It would be nice if they [Hyundai cars] would run 200K [miles] with
>>>[regular maintenance.]
>>
>>Since recent Hyundai cars sold in the USA have a 60,000 mile
>>bumper-to-bumper warranty and a 100,000 mile powertrain warranty, I
>>don't think 200,000 miles is out of the question. I can't speak for
>>this, though, as my Tiburon is only 2.2 years old and only has 22,000
>>miles on it. I *can* say that it's had zero mechanical problems except
>>for the time I ran over a raccoon, which caused $80 worth of trim
>>damage.
>>
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>>>So if I were to buy a Hyundai I would have to run it in the ground, or
>>>trade it on another Hyundai.
>>
>>Can you provide supporting evidence for this statement? Or did you mean
>>"If I were to buy a Hyundai, would I have to run it into the ground?" ?
>>
>>Cars depreciate faster than anything except computer equipment. Given
>>that, the smart thing to do from a pure financial standpoint is this:
>>Buy a car that has a good repair record and is 1 or 2 years old, then
>>drive that car until it falls apart. This means you can't show off a
>>new car every 3 years, but it also means you will spend much less money
>>on cars. YMMV, naturally.
>>
>>If you want specific advice, you need to say what model you're
>>interested in, what your plans are, and what's important to you. HTH,
>>
>>--
>>Matt G|There is no Darkness in eternity/But only Light too dim for us to
>>see
>>Yesterday upon the stair, I met a man who wasn't there.
>>He wasn't there again today -- I think he's from the CIA.
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