How many miles will a Hyundai
06-02-2005, 04:30 PM
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Re: How many miles will a Hyundai
twfsa wrote:
> Dances with whatever
>
> I could care less if my writing skills are not up to your standards, or
> people like you, and I will continue to write badly,not intentionally of
> course and, people such as yourself that take it upon themselves, to try and
> correct and criticize people like me can go Fist themselves,... and
> that's referring to you ... incase I am confusing you!
>
> Tom.
>
Ha Ha!
Tom, we have here a troll!
(And, damn, but your writing has improved!)
His only appearance on this board that I can find was to attack you (and
me). Fell for it myself, didn't I.
Richard
> Dances with whatever
>
> I could care less if my writing skills are not up to your standards, or
> people like you, and I will continue to write badly,not intentionally of
> course and, people such as yourself that take it upon themselves, to try and
> correct and criticize people like me can go Fist themselves,... and
> that's referring to you ... incase I am confusing you!
>
> Tom.
>
Ha Ha!
Tom, we have here a troll!
(And, damn, but your writing has improved!)
His only appearance on this board that I can find was to attack you (and
me). Fell for it myself, didn't I.
Richard
06-03-2005, 08:58 PM
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Re: How many miles will a Hyundai
Is the transmission automatic or manuel? I ask because this makes all
the difference in longevity.
<<<<The Sonatas did *not* have quality or reliability problems in the
'89-91 era. Maybe it helped that they were built in Canada? At any
rate, we have an '89 Sonata with 308,500 miles on it that I am driving
daily. Rebuilt cylinder head at about 260,000, and some rust repair a
couple of times (we're in the upper midwest -- lots of road salt), but
I'm planning to drive it 2500 miles to Canada -- pulling our enclosed
trailer. Now *that's* quality, for my money!
Harry >>>>
the difference in longevity.
<<<<The Sonatas did *not* have quality or reliability problems in the
'89-91 era. Maybe it helped that they were built in Canada? At any
rate, we have an '89 Sonata with 308,500 miles on it that I am driving
daily. Rebuilt cylinder head at about 260,000, and some rust repair a
couple of times (we're in the upper midwest -- lots of road salt), but
I'm planning to drive it 2500 miles to Canada -- pulling our enclosed
trailer. Now *that's* quality, for my money!
Harry >>>>
06-04-2005, 09:25 AM
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Automatic.
<eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Is the transmission automatic or manuel? I ask because this makes all
> the difference in longevity.
>
>
>
> <<<<The Sonatas did *not* have quality or reliability problems in the
> '89-91 era. Maybe it helped that they were built in Canada? At any
> rate, we have an '89 Sonata with 308,500 miles on it that I am driving
> daily. Rebuilt cylinder head at about 260,000, and some rust repair a
> couple of times (we're in the upper midwest -- lots of road salt), but
> I'm planning to drive it 2500 miles to Canada -- pulling our enclosed
> trailer. Now *that's* quality, for my money!
>
> Harry >>>>
>
<eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1117846706.927980.60900@g43g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> Is the transmission automatic or manuel? I ask because this makes all
> the difference in longevity.
>
>
>
> <<<<The Sonatas did *not* have quality or reliability problems in the
> '89-91 era. Maybe it helped that they were built in Canada? At any
> rate, we have an '89 Sonata with 308,500 miles on it that I am driving
> daily. Rebuilt cylinder head at about 260,000, and some rust repair a
> couple of times (we're in the upper midwest -- lots of road salt), but
> I'm planning to drive it 2500 miles to Canada -- pulling our enclosed
> trailer. Now *that's* quality, for my money!
>
> Harry >>>>
>
06-04-2005, 11:59 AM
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Re: How many miles will a Hyundai
Sorry twifsa I was not asking you. I was asking Harry Smith about his
car.
An automatic will not last as long as a manual because of the
additional engine load that autos put on the engine. Also Autos are
more sensitive to mechanical irregularities and would cause the engine
to stop running before a manual would. Once again it's because of the
added load. Also an automatic will not get as good gas mileage as the
manual counterpart.
<<<<
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Automatic.>>>>
car.
An automatic will not last as long as a manual because of the
additional engine load that autos put on the engine. Also Autos are
more sensitive to mechanical irregularities and would cause the engine
to stop running before a manual would. Once again it's because of the
added load. Also an automatic will not get as good gas mileage as the
manual counterpart.
<<<<
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Automatic.>>>>
06-04-2005, 07:47 PM
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Re: How many miles will a Hyundai
1998 Elantra, manual
210,000 km
regular maintenance, engine still going strong
only repairs were two front wheel bearings and one power steering hose
I like the car.
"twfsa" <uksatw@qwest.net> wrote in message
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> How many miles will the newer Hyundai's run before there ready for the
bone
> yard, altho the quaility is up from the first generations, there's never
> going to be any re-sale value, as in a Honda or a Toyota.It would be nice
if
> they would run 200K with maintance.
>
> So if I were to buy a Hyundai I would have to run it in the ground, or
trade
> it on another Hyundai.
>
> Tom
>
>
210,000 km
regular maintenance, engine still going strong
only repairs were two front wheel bearings and one power steering hose
I like the car.
"twfsa" <uksatw@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:ClLme.2836$rb6.2804@lakeread07...
> How many miles will the newer Hyundai's run before there ready for the
bone
> yard, altho the quaility is up from the first generations, there's never
> going to be any re-sale value, as in a Honda or a Toyota.It would be nice
if
> they would run 200K with maintance.
>
> So if I were to buy a Hyundai I would have to run it in the ground, or
trade
> it on another Hyundai.
>
> Tom
>
>
06-05-2005, 05:45 AM
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eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com wrote:
> Sorry twifsa I was not asking you. I was asking Harry Smith about his
> car.
>
> An automatic will not last as long as a manual because of the
> additional engine load that autos put on the engine. Also Autos are
> more sensitive to mechanical irregularities and would cause the engine
> to stop running before a manual would. Once again it's because of the
> added load. Also an automatic will not get as good gas mileage as the
> manual counterpart.
>
>
However, in San Francisco, the reverse is true. Think about the stresses
throughout when at a stop sign sloping backward; you attempt to start up
without rolling back into the Buick that's right on your bumper. You get
going by slipping the clutch while your engine screams.
My hunch is that as far as real-world mechanical longevity goes, the two
systems are a draw. One "X-factor" is the driver; and I'll bet that most
standard shift drivers are a bit rougher on the mechanicals than the
automatic drivers. The automatic tends to prevent the driver from doing
stupid things with the machine.
And I could be equally wrong; in other words, I think that there are too
many variables here to be sure one way or the other. But the automatics
don't, in general, get the efficiency of the manuals.
Richard
> Sorry twifsa I was not asking you. I was asking Harry Smith about his
> car.
>
> An automatic will not last as long as a manual because of the
> additional engine load that autos put on the engine. Also Autos are
> more sensitive to mechanical irregularities and would cause the engine
> to stop running before a manual would. Once again it's because of the
> added load. Also an automatic will not get as good gas mileage as the
> manual counterpart.
>
>
However, in San Francisco, the reverse is true. Think about the stresses
throughout when at a stop sign sloping backward; you attempt to start up
without rolling back into the Buick that's right on your bumper. You get
going by slipping the clutch while your engine screams.
My hunch is that as far as real-world mechanical longevity goes, the two
systems are a draw. One "X-factor" is the driver; and I'll bet that most
standard shift drivers are a bit rougher on the mechanicals than the
automatic drivers. The automatic tends to prevent the driver from doing
stupid things with the machine.
And I could be equally wrong; in other words, I think that there are too
many variables here to be sure one way or the other. But the automatics
don't, in general, get the efficiency of the manuals.
Richard
06-05-2005, 10:18 AM
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Re: How many miles will a Hyundai
On 5 Jun 2005 04:45:04 -0500, Richard Steinfeld
<rgsteinBUTREMOVETHIS@sonic.net> wrote:
>eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Sorry twifsa I was not asking you. I was asking Harry Smith about his
>> car.
>>
>> An automatic will not last as long as a manual because of the
>> additional engine load that autos put on the engine. Also Autos are
>> more sensitive to mechanical irregularities and would cause the engine
>> to stop running before a manual would. Once again it's because of the
>> added load. Also an automatic will not get as good gas mileage as the
>> manual counterpart.
>>
>>
>However, in San Francisco, the reverse is true. Think about the stresses
>throughout when at a stop sign sloping backward; you attempt to start up
>without rolling back into the Buick that's right on your bumper. You get
>going by slipping the clutch while your engine screams.
Don't believe that for a minute. Those same stresses that are
affecting the clutch slippage are working even harder on the automatic
transmission. More power needed move the vehicle = more heat created
through the pump and clutch packs/bands = more wear and needed
preventive maintainance.
I might be a little harder on transmissions than the average person,
none of the cars that I've had with auto transmissions made it past
100,000 miles without some major work needed to the transmission.
Manual transmissions usually last me the the time I own the car. I
usually replace the clutch when I buy a car so I don't get stranded
and so I know what I have under my clutch pedal.
...Ron
>
>My hunch is that as far as real-world mechanical longevity goes, the two
>systems are a draw. One "X-factor" is the driver; and I'll bet that most
>standard shift drivers are a bit rougher on the mechanicals than the
>automatic drivers. The automatic tends to prevent the driver from doing
>stupid things with the machine.
>
>And I could be equally wrong; in other words, I think that there are too
>many variables here to be sure one way or the other. But the automatics
>don't, in general, get the efficiency of the manuals.
>
>Richard
--
68' Camaro RS
88' Firebird Formula
00' Mustang GT Vert
<rgsteinBUTREMOVETHIS@sonic.net> wrote:
>eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Sorry twifsa I was not asking you. I was asking Harry Smith about his
>> car.
>>
>> An automatic will not last as long as a manual because of the
>> additional engine load that autos put on the engine. Also Autos are
>> more sensitive to mechanical irregularities and would cause the engine
>> to stop running before a manual would. Once again it's because of the
>> added load. Also an automatic will not get as good gas mileage as the
>> manual counterpart.
>>
>>
>However, in San Francisco, the reverse is true. Think about the stresses
>throughout when at a stop sign sloping backward; you attempt to start up
>without rolling back into the Buick that's right on your bumper. You get
>going by slipping the clutch while your engine screams.
Don't believe that for a minute. Those same stresses that are
affecting the clutch slippage are working even harder on the automatic
transmission. More power needed move the vehicle = more heat created
through the pump and clutch packs/bands = more wear and needed
preventive maintainance.
I might be a little harder on transmissions than the average person,
none of the cars that I've had with auto transmissions made it past
100,000 miles without some major work needed to the transmission.
Manual transmissions usually last me the the time I own the car. I
usually replace the clutch when I buy a car so I don't get stranded
and so I know what I have under my clutch pedal.
...Ron
>
>My hunch is that as far as real-world mechanical longevity goes, the two
>systems are a draw. One "X-factor" is the driver; and I'll bet that most
>standard shift drivers are a bit rougher on the mechanicals than the
>automatic drivers. The automatic tends to prevent the driver from doing
>stupid things with the machine.
>
>And I could be equally wrong; in other words, I think that there are too
>many variables here to be sure one way or the other. But the automatics
>don't, in general, get the efficiency of the manuals.
>
>Richard
--
68' Camaro RS
88' Firebird Formula
00' Mustang GT Vert
06-05-2005, 11:11 AM
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jesus if your letting the engine scream as your foots still on the clutch
half way no wonder its not going to last
thats when you make use of your e brake if your scared of rolling back on a
steep hill...
"RSCamaro" <rscamero@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 5 Jun 2005 04:45:04 -0500, Richard Steinfeld
> <rgsteinBUTREMOVETHIS@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>>eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> Sorry twifsa I was not asking you. I was asking Harry Smith about his
>>> car.
>>>
>>> An automatic will not last as long as a manual because of the
>>> additional engine load that autos put on the engine. Also Autos are
>>> more sensitive to mechanical irregularities and would cause the engine
>>> to stop running before a manual would. Once again it's because of the
>>> added load. Also an automatic will not get as good gas mileage as the
>>> manual counterpart.
>>>
>>>
>>However, in San Francisco, the reverse is true. Think about the stresses
>>throughout when at a stop sign sloping backward; you attempt to start up
>>without rolling back into the Buick that's right on your bumper. You get
>>going by slipping the clutch while your engine screams.
>
> Don't believe that for a minute. Those same stresses that are
> affecting the clutch slippage are working even harder on the automatic
> transmission. More power needed move the vehicle = more heat created
> through the pump and clutch packs/bands = more wear and needed
> preventive maintainance.
>
> I might be a little harder on transmissions than the average person,
> none of the cars that I've had with auto transmissions made it past
> 100,000 miles without some major work needed to the transmission.
> Manual transmissions usually last me the the time I own the car. I
> usually replace the clutch when I buy a car so I don't get stranded
> and so I know what I have under my clutch pedal.
>
> ...Ron
>
>>
>>My hunch is that as far as real-world mechanical longevity goes, the two
>>systems are a draw. One "X-factor" is the driver; and I'll bet that most
>>standard shift drivers are a bit rougher on the mechanicals than the
>>automatic drivers. The automatic tends to prevent the driver from doing
>>stupid things with the machine.
>>
>>And I could be equally wrong; in other words, I think that there are too
>>many variables here to be sure one way or the other. But the automatics
>>don't, in general, get the efficiency of the manuals.
>>
>>Richard
>
> --
> 68' Camaro RS
> 88' Firebird Formula
> 00' Mustang GT Vert
half way no wonder its not going to last
thats when you make use of your e brake if your scared of rolling back on a
steep hill...
"RSCamaro" <rscamero@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42a2fe29.593058984@news.verizon.net...
> On 5 Jun 2005 04:45:04 -0500, Richard Steinfeld
> <rgsteinBUTREMOVETHIS@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>>eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> Sorry twifsa I was not asking you. I was asking Harry Smith about his
>>> car.
>>>
>>> An automatic will not last as long as a manual because of the
>>> additional engine load that autos put on the engine. Also Autos are
>>> more sensitive to mechanical irregularities and would cause the engine
>>> to stop running before a manual would. Once again it's because of the
>>> added load. Also an automatic will not get as good gas mileage as the
>>> manual counterpart.
>>>
>>>
>>However, in San Francisco, the reverse is true. Think about the stresses
>>throughout when at a stop sign sloping backward; you attempt to start up
>>without rolling back into the Buick that's right on your bumper. You get
>>going by slipping the clutch while your engine screams.
>
> Don't believe that for a minute. Those same stresses that are
> affecting the clutch slippage are working even harder on the automatic
> transmission. More power needed move the vehicle = more heat created
> through the pump and clutch packs/bands = more wear and needed
> preventive maintainance.
>
> I might be a little harder on transmissions than the average person,
> none of the cars that I've had with auto transmissions made it past
> 100,000 miles without some major work needed to the transmission.
> Manual transmissions usually last me the the time I own the car. I
> usually replace the clutch when I buy a car so I don't get stranded
> and so I know what I have under my clutch pedal.
>
> ...Ron
>
>>
>>My hunch is that as far as real-world mechanical longevity goes, the two
>>systems are a draw. One "X-factor" is the driver; and I'll bet that most
>>standard shift drivers are a bit rougher on the mechanicals than the
>>automatic drivers. The automatic tends to prevent the driver from doing
>>stupid things with the machine.
>>
>>And I could be equally wrong; in other words, I think that there are too
>>many variables here to be sure one way or the other. But the automatics
>>don't, in general, get the efficiency of the manuals.
>>
>>Richard
>
> --
> 68' Camaro RS
> 88' Firebird Formula
> 00' Mustang GT Vert
06-05-2005, 11:38 AM
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Re: How many miles will a Hyundai
Now that you mentioned this. Has anybody here ever seen a manual
transmission/transaxle auto/truck that had the e-brake actuated by the
left foot on the floorboard with a release lever for the left hand?
(assuming the car is a north american left hand drive set up)
I ask because it would only make sense to have it between the two front
seats as the more familiar pull lever for the right hand. It can be
used at different degrees of effectiveness for one thing, plus it keeps
your foot free for the clutch. And for all other reasons not
mentioned.
<<<<jesus if your letting the engine scream as your foots still on the
clutch
half way no wonder its not going to last
thats when you make use of your e brake if your scared of rolling back
on a
steep hill... >>>>
transmission/transaxle auto/truck that had the e-brake actuated by the
left foot on the floorboard with a release lever for the left hand?
(assuming the car is a north american left hand drive set up)
I ask because it would only make sense to have it between the two front
seats as the more familiar pull lever for the right hand. It can be
used at different degrees of effectiveness for one thing, plus it keeps
your foot free for the clutch. And for all other reasons not
mentioned.
<<<<jesus if your letting the engine scream as your foots still on the
clutch
half way no wonder its not going to last
thats when you make use of your e brake if your scared of rolling back
on a
steep hill... >>>>
06-06-2005, 05:35 AM
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"twfsa2" wrote:
> How many miles will the newer Hyundai's run before there ready
> for the bone
> yard, altho the quaility is up from the first generations,
> there's never
> going to be any re-sale value, as in a Honda or a Toyota.It
> would be nice if
> they would run 200K with maintance.
>
> So if I were to buy a Hyundai I would have to run it in the
> ground, or trade
> it on another Hyundai.
>
> Tom
Get this, my mate has done 350000 km in his 92 model excel..he only
changed oil and filter and other normal wear items. even at this
mileage it ran very well. kia which is owned by hyundai now has
currently tested their engines for 300000 plus kms. their test car is
still clocking up the miles, here in melbourne australia we have
thousands of hyundais which keep running for years. hope this helps
you.
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> How many miles will the newer Hyundai's run before there ready
> for the bone
> yard, altho the quaility is up from the first generations,
> there's never
> going to be any re-sale value, as in a Honda or a Toyota.It
> would be nice if
> they would run 200K with maintance.
>
> So if I were to buy a Hyundai I would have to run it in the
> ground, or trade
> it on another Hyundai.
>
> Tom
Get this, my mate has done 350000 km in his 92 model excel..he only
changed oil and filter and other normal wear items. even at this
mileage it ran very well. kia which is owned by hyundai now has
currently tested their engines for 300000 plus kms. their test car is
still clocking up the miles, here in melbourne australia we have
thousands of hyundais which keep running for years. hope this helps
you.
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