Hans-Marc Olsen

Who will win ?

The Steven

> Who will win ?

Depends on the nature of the contest....

Number of units produced?
Production cost?
MPG?
Rear seat legroom?
Cost?
Warranty?
Number of airbags?
Cost to repair?
Number of doors?
Ease of parking?
Top Speed?
Ground clearance?
Average life expectancy?
Cargo capacity?
Weight?
Firepower?

I'm willing to bet in a fair head to head pros vs. cons of each, I'd bet on
Hyundai.

fhm

What about front and side crash tests? I think the Abrams has a slight edge!
Plus you never have to rotate the tires!

"The Steven" <Steven_Vohl@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:zaVld.9692$tI3.6143@trndny01...
>> Who will win ?
>
> Depends on the nature of the contest....
>
> Number of units produced?
> Production cost?
> MPG?
> Rear seat legroom?
> Cost?
> Warranty?
> Number of airbags?
> Cost to repair?
> Number of doors?
> Ease of parking?
> Top Speed?
> Ground clearance?
> Average life expectancy?
> Cargo capacity?
> Weight?
> Firepower?
>
> I'm willing to bet in a fair head to head pros vs. cons of each, I'd bet
> on Hyundai.
>

Jeff Teeple

"fhm" <minthillmary@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Hx%ld.524$YP3.288674@twister.southeast.rr.com ...
> What about front and side crash tests? I think the Abrams has a slight
> edge!
> Plus you never have to rotate the tires!
>

Oh, but the track maintenance... Also, the milage sucks in the M1.

Plus side... You can park damn well where ever you please, even on top of
someone else's car.

I'll take my Tibby, it's more in my price range (what would the liability
insurance on an Abrams be anyways? 3-4 million?).

> "The Steven" <Steven_Vohl@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:zaVld.9692$tI3.6143@trndny01...
>>> Who will win ?
>>
>> Depends on the nature of the contest....
>>
>> Number of units produced?
>> Production cost?
>> MPG?
>> Rear seat legroom?
>> Cost?
>> Warranty?
>> Number of airbags?
>> Cost to repair?
>> Number of doors?
>> Ease of parking?
>> Top Speed?
>> Ground clearance?
>> Average life expectancy?
>> Cargo capacity?
>> Weight?
>> Firepower?
>>
>> I'm willing to bet in a fair head to head pros vs. cons of each, I'd bet
>> on Hyundai.
>>
>
>

Dances With Crows

On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:41:35 -0500, Jeff Teeple staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
[ comparing an M1A2 Abrams tank to a Hyundai car/SUV ]
> "fhm" <minthillmary@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:Hx%ld.524$YP3.288674@twister.southeast.rr.com ...
>> What about front and side crash tests? I think the Abrams has a
>> slight edge! Plus you never have to rotate the tires!
> Oh, but the track maintenance... Also, the milage sucks in the M1.
> Plus side... You can park damn well where ever you please, even on top
> of someone else's car. I'll take my Tibby, it's more in my price
> range (what would the liability insurance on an Abrams be anyways? 3-4
> million?).

Comprehensive/liability insurance on an M1 would be very, very high.
Even higher if you have any shells for the main gun :-)

FWIW, I saw somewhere online (link lost; my history expires after 10
days) that (mean number of claims)*(mean cost of claim) for a Tiburon is
202 (average for all cars in the "2-door small" class is 100). The only
car that gets a higher number is the Acura NSX. This is one reason why
you pay so much to insure a Tiburon. (I guess the numbers are so high
because it's a relatively cheap car, so there are a lot of high-school
kids driving Tibs. Sigh.)

--
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Hire me! http://crow202.dyndns.org/~mhgraham/resume/
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and owns the worm farm. --Travis McGee

Jeff Teeple

"Dances With Crows" <danSPANceswitTRAPhcrows@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:slrncpiedr.np8.danSPANceswitTRAPhcrows@samant ha.crow202.dyndns.org...
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:41:35 -0500, Jeff Teeple staggered into the Black
> Sun and said:
> [ comparing an M1A2 Abrams tank to a Hyundai car/SUV ]
>> "fhm" <minthillmary@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:Hx%ld.524$YP3.288674@twister.southeast.rr.com ...
>>> What about front and side crash tests? I think the Abrams has a
>>> slight edge! Plus you never have to rotate the tires!
>> Oh, but the track maintenance... Also, the milage sucks in the M1.
>> Plus side... You can park damn well where ever you please, even on top
>> of someone else's car. I'll take my Tibby, it's more in my price
>> range (what would the liability insurance on an Abrams be anyways? 3-4
>> million?).
>
> Comprehensive/liability insurance on an M1 would be very, very high.
> Even higher if you have any shells for the main gun :-)
>
> FWIW, I saw somewhere online (link lost; my history expires after 10
> days) that (mean number of claims)*(mean cost of claim) for a Tiburon is
> 202 (average for all cars in the "2-door small" class is 100). The only
> car that gets a higher number is the Acura NSX. This is one reason why
> you pay so much to insure a Tiburon. (I guess the numbers are so high
> because it's a relatively cheap car, so there are a lot of high-school
> kids driving Tibs. Sigh.)
>

They were much more in demand in Europe... You could not buy one there until
recently, and hence, we suffered a rash of thefts. Not so much now, but the
damage has been done.

Further, there are ALOT more kids driving suped up Civics then Tibs (both
sides of the border), and yet a Civic is alot cheaper on insurance.

I would be more interested in seeing the number of speeding tickets issued
against Tibs, or actual vehicle accidents...

> --
> Matt G|There is no Darkness in eternity/But only Light too dim for us to
> see
> Hire me! http://crow202.dyndns.org/~mhgraham/resume/
> The early bird who catches the worm works for someone who comes in late
> and owns the worm farm. --Travis McGee

The Steven

> What about front and side crash tests? I think the Abrams has a slight
> edge!
> Plus you never have to rotate the tires!

Oh sure, but they charge you extra at the carwash!
And and when you show up on "prom night" it just dosn't make the same
impression as a limo.

Swingman

"The Steven" <Steven_Vohl@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4Temd.6158$wY2.4210@trndny05...
>> What about front and side crash tests? I think the Abrams has a slight
>> edge!
>> Plus you never have to rotate the tires!
>
> Oh sure, but they charge you extra at the carwash!
> And and when you show up on "prom night" it just dosn't make the same
> impression as a limo.
>

I don't know...these days showing up in a tank might get you more points than a limo.

theta00k@yahoo.com

In article <e1cc8b8.0411141904.371a782a@posting.google.com> , mallet_riveter@yahoo.co.in (Hans-Marc Olsen) wrote:
>Who will win ?

The Hyundai MBTs are not made by the car company.
Hyundai Heavy Industries makes them.

theta

theta00k@yahoo.com wrote:
> In article <e1cc8b8.0411141904.371a782a@posting.google.com> ,
mallet_riveter@yahoo.co.in (Hans-Marc Olsen) wrote:
> >Who will win ?
>
> The Hyundai MBTs are not made by the car company.
> Hyundai Heavy Industries makes them.
Correction:it's Rotem, not HHI. www.rotem.co.kr