Darby OGill wrote:
> Matt, we definately have the same creak-you described it perfectly...see,
> I'm not deaf, dumb, and blind !.....you want to experience a touchy
> throttle, you should drive my turbo volvo s60- wow. It makes you look like
> an idiot just trying to roll away from a stop.....the sonata is worlds
> better in that regard. ps got a recall call from dealer concerning the
> cupholder of all things, doubt they'll relocate it though. Cheers

I wasn't saying you were any of those, well maybe a little deaf. :-)

Yes, mine was "recalled" for the cupholder (they replace the rubber
insert - not sure why), the little trim pieces behind the door handles
(again the dealer wasn't sure why), the door recline handle (contains a
notch to catch the seat belt, and adding extra adhesive to the headliner.


Matt

 

Matt Whiting wrote:
> Darby OGill wrote:
>
>> Matt, we definately have the same creak-you described it
>> perfectly...see, I'm not deaf, dumb, and blind !.....you want to
>> experience a touchy throttle, you should drive my turbo volvo s60-
>> wow. It makes you look like an idiot just trying to roll away from a
>> stop.....the sonata is worlds better in that regard. ps got a
>> recall call from dealer concerning the cupholder of all things, doubt
>> they'll relocate it though. Cheers
>
>
> I wasn't saying you were any of those, well maybe a little deaf. :-)
>
> Yes, mine was "recalled" for the cupholder (they replace the rubber
> insert - not sure why), the little trim pieces behind the door handles
> (again the dealer wasn't sure why), the door recline handle (contains a
> notch to catch the seat belt, and adding extra adhesive to the headliner.
>
>
> Matt

Does it improve the cupholder at all? Besides the overly touchy
throttle, its really the only thing that I truly dislike about my 06
Sonata.

-B

 

Matt Whiting wrote:
> Darby OGill wrote:
>
>> Matt, we definately have the same creak-you described it
>> perfectly...see, I'm not deaf, dumb, and blind !.....you want to
>> experience a touchy throttle, you should drive my turbo volvo s60-
>> wow. It makes you look like an idiot just trying to roll away from a
>> stop.....the sonata is worlds better in that regard. ps got a
>> recall call from dealer concerning the cupholder of all things, doubt
>> they'll relocate it though. Cheers
>
>
> I wasn't saying you were any of those, well maybe a little deaf. :-)
>
> Yes, mine was "recalled" for the cupholder (they replace the rubber
> insert - not sure why), the little trim pieces behind the door handles
> (again the dealer wasn't sure why), the door recline handle (contains a
> notch to catch the seat belt, and adding extra adhesive to the headliner.
>
>
> Matt

Does it improve the cupholder at all? Besides the overly touchy
throttle, its really the only thing that I truly dislike about my 06
Sonata.

-B

 

Matt Whiting wrote:
> Darby OGill wrote:
>
>> Matt, we definately have the same creak-you described it
>> perfectly...see, I'm not deaf, dumb, and blind !.....you want to
>> experience a touchy throttle, you should drive my turbo volvo s60-
>> wow. It makes you look like an idiot just trying to roll away from a
>> stop.....the sonata is worlds better in that regard. ps got a
>> recall call from dealer concerning the cupholder of all things, doubt
>> they'll relocate it though. Cheers
>
>
> I wasn't saying you were any of those, well maybe a little deaf. :-)
>
> Yes, mine was "recalled" for the cupholder (they replace the rubber
> insert - not sure why), the little trim pieces behind the door handles
> (again the dealer wasn't sure why), the door recline handle (contains a
> notch to catch the seat belt, and adding extra adhesive to the headliner.
>
>
> Matt

Does it improve the cupholder at all? Besides the overly touchy
throttle, its really the only thing that I truly dislike about my 06
Sonata.

-B

 

Blair wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>> Darby OGill wrote:
>>
>>> Matt, we definately have the same creak-you described it
>>> perfectly...see, I'm not deaf, dumb, and blind !.....you want to
>>> experience a touchy throttle, you should drive my turbo volvo s60-
>>> wow. It makes you look like an idiot just trying to roll away from a
>>> stop.....the sonata is worlds better in that regard. ps got a
>>> recall call from dealer concerning the cupholder of all things, doubt
>>> they'll relocate it though. Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> I wasn't saying you were any of those, well maybe a little deaf. :-)
>>
>> Yes, mine was "recalled" for the cupholder (they replace the rubber
>> insert - not sure why), the little trim pieces behind the door handles
>> (again the dealer wasn't sure why), the door recline handle (contains
>> a notch to catch the seat belt, and adding extra adhesive to the
>> headliner.
>>
>>
>> Matt
>
>
> Does it improve the cupholder at all? Besides the overly touchy
> throttle, its really the only thing that I truly dislike about my 06
> Sonata.

I can't say as mine was "fixed" a day or two after I took delivery and I
don't think I ever even used the original cupholder insert. It is still
a lousy location for a cupholder as it is too close to the center
armrest and I have a hard time grabbing a cup in the rear holder. The
front isn't so bad, but the rear is nearly useless unless your arm is a
lot more limber than mine.


Matt

 

Blair wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>> Darby OGill wrote:
>>
>>> Matt, we definately have the same creak-you described it
>>> perfectly...see, I'm not deaf, dumb, and blind !.....you want to
>>> experience a touchy throttle, you should drive my turbo volvo s60-
>>> wow. It makes you look like an idiot just trying to roll away from a
>>> stop.....the sonata is worlds better in that regard. ps got a
>>> recall call from dealer concerning the cupholder of all things, doubt
>>> they'll relocate it though. Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> I wasn't saying you were any of those, well maybe a little deaf. :-)
>>
>> Yes, mine was "recalled" for the cupholder (they replace the rubber
>> insert - not sure why), the little trim pieces behind the door handles
>> (again the dealer wasn't sure why), the door recline handle (contains
>> a notch to catch the seat belt, and adding extra adhesive to the
>> headliner.
>>
>>
>> Matt
>
>
> Does it improve the cupholder at all? Besides the overly touchy
> throttle, its really the only thing that I truly dislike about my 06
> Sonata.

I can't say as mine was "fixed" a day or two after I took delivery and I
don't think I ever even used the original cupholder insert. It is still
a lousy location for a cupholder as it is too close to the center
armrest and I have a hard time grabbing a cup in the rear holder. The
front isn't so bad, but the rear is nearly useless unless your arm is a
lot more limber than mine.


Matt

 

Blair wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>> Darby OGill wrote:
>>
>>> Matt, we definately have the same creak-you described it
>>> perfectly...see, I'm not deaf, dumb, and blind !.....you want to
>>> experience a touchy throttle, you should drive my turbo volvo s60-
>>> wow. It makes you look like an idiot just trying to roll away from a
>>> stop.....the sonata is worlds better in that regard. ps got a
>>> recall call from dealer concerning the cupholder of all things, doubt
>>> they'll relocate it though. Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> I wasn't saying you were any of those, well maybe a little deaf. :-)
>>
>> Yes, mine was "recalled" for the cupholder (they replace the rubber
>> insert - not sure why), the little trim pieces behind the door handles
>> (again the dealer wasn't sure why), the door recline handle (contains
>> a notch to catch the seat belt, and adding extra adhesive to the
>> headliner.
>>
>>
>> Matt
>
>
> Does it improve the cupholder at all? Besides the overly touchy
> throttle, its really the only thing that I truly dislike about my 06
> Sonata.

I can't say as mine was "fixed" a day or two after I took delivery and I
don't think I ever even used the original cupholder insert. It is still
a lousy location for a cupholder as it is too close to the center
armrest and I have a hard time grabbing a cup in the rear holder. The
front isn't so bad, but the rear is nearly useless unless your arm is a
lot more limber than mine.


Matt

 

Matt Whiting wrote:
> Blair wrote:
>
>> Matt Whiting wrote:
>>
>>> Darby OGill wrote:
>>>
>>>> Matt, we definately have the same creak-you described it
>>>> perfectly...see, I'm not deaf, dumb, and blind !.....you want to
>>>> experience a touchy throttle, you should drive my turbo volvo s60-
>>>> wow. It makes you look like an idiot just trying to roll away from a
>>>> stop.....the sonata is worlds better in that regard. ps got a
>>>> recall call from dealer concerning the cupholder of all things,
>>>> doubt they'll relocate it though. Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I wasn't saying you were any of those, well maybe a little deaf. :-)
>>>
>>> Yes, mine was "recalled" for the cupholder (they replace the rubber
>>> insert - not sure why), the little trim pieces behind the door
>>> handles (again the dealer wasn't sure why), the door recline handle
>>> (contains a notch to catch the seat belt, and adding extra adhesive
>>> to the headliner.
>>>
>>>
>>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>> Does it improve the cupholder at all? Besides the overly touchy
>> throttle, its really the only thing that I truly dislike about my 06
>> Sonata.
>
>
> I can't say as mine was "fixed" a day or two after I took delivery and I
> don't think I ever even used the original cupholder insert. It is still
> a lousy location for a cupholder as it is too close to the center
> armrest and I have a hard time grabbing a cup in the rear holder. The
> front isn't so bad, but the rear is nearly useless unless your arm is a
> lot more limber than mine.
>
>
> Matt

The problem I have with it isn't so much the location... its the overall
design. It doesn't hold any normal size bottles/cans/cups. The only
perfect fit I've found so far is a Yahoo glass bottle that is extremely
fat. Every time I make even a slight stop, whatever bottle I have in
there leans all the way forward or falls out entirely. Those plastic
flaps are ludicrous. So now I have a nice collection of muck on my
shift boot and my carpet.

-B

 

Matt Whiting wrote:
> Blair wrote:
>
>> Matt Whiting wrote:
>>
>>> Darby OGill wrote:
>>>
>>>> Matt, we definately have the same creak-you described it
>>>> perfectly...see, I'm not deaf, dumb, and blind !.....you want to
>>>> experience a touchy throttle, you should drive my turbo volvo s60-
>>>> wow. It makes you look like an idiot just trying to roll away from a
>>>> stop.....the sonata is worlds better in that regard. ps got a
>>>> recall call from dealer concerning the cupholder of all things,
>>>> doubt they'll relocate it though. Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I wasn't saying you were any of those, well maybe a little deaf. :-)
>>>
>>> Yes, mine was "recalled" for the cupholder (they replace the rubber
>>> insert - not sure why), the little trim pieces behind the door
>>> handles (again the dealer wasn't sure why), the door recline handle
>>> (contains a notch to catch the seat belt, and adding extra adhesive
>>> to the headliner.
>>>
>>>
>>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>> Does it improve the cupholder at all? Besides the overly touchy
>> throttle, its really the only thing that I truly dislike about my 06
>> Sonata.
>
>
> I can't say as mine was "fixed" a day or two after I took delivery and I
> don't think I ever even used the original cupholder insert. It is still
> a lousy location for a cupholder as it is too close to the center
> armrest and I have a hard time grabbing a cup in the rear holder. The
> front isn't so bad, but the rear is nearly useless unless your arm is a
> lot more limber than mine.
>
>
> Matt

The problem I have with it isn't so much the location... its the overall
design. It doesn't hold any normal size bottles/cans/cups. The only
perfect fit I've found so far is a Yahoo glass bottle that is extremely
fat. Every time I make even a slight stop, whatever bottle I have in
there leans all the way forward or falls out entirely. Those plastic
flaps are ludicrous. So now I have a nice collection of muck on my
shift boot and my carpet.

-B

 

Matt Whiting wrote:
> Blair wrote:
>
>> Matt Whiting wrote:
>>
>>> Darby OGill wrote:
>>>
>>>> Matt, we definately have the same creak-you described it
>>>> perfectly...see, I'm not deaf, dumb, and blind !.....you want to
>>>> experience a touchy throttle, you should drive my turbo volvo s60-
>>>> wow. It makes you look like an idiot just trying to roll away from a
>>>> stop.....the sonata is worlds better in that regard. ps got a
>>>> recall call from dealer concerning the cupholder of all things,
>>>> doubt they'll relocate it though. Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I wasn't saying you were any of those, well maybe a little deaf. :-)
>>>
>>> Yes, mine was "recalled" for the cupholder (they replace the rubber
>>> insert - not sure why), the little trim pieces behind the door
>>> handles (again the dealer wasn't sure why), the door recline handle
>>> (contains a notch to catch the seat belt, and adding extra adhesive
>>> to the headliner.
>>>
>>>
>>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>> Does it improve the cupholder at all? Besides the overly touchy
>> throttle, its really the only thing that I truly dislike about my 06
>> Sonata.
>
>
> I can't say as mine was "fixed" a day or two after I took delivery and I
> don't think I ever even used the original cupholder insert. It is still
> a lousy location for a cupholder as it is too close to the center
> armrest and I have a hard time grabbing a cup in the rear holder. The
> front isn't so bad, but the rear is nearly useless unless your arm is a
> lot more limber than mine.
>
>
> Matt

The problem I have with it isn't so much the location... its the overall
design. It doesn't hold any normal size bottles/cans/cups. The only
perfect fit I've found so far is a Yahoo glass bottle that is extremely
fat. Every time I make even a slight stop, whatever bottle I have in
there leans all the way forward or falls out entirely. Those plastic
flaps are ludicrous. So now I have a nice collection of muck on my
shift boot and my carpet.

-B

 

Blair wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>> Blair wrote:
>>
>>> Matt Whiting wrote:
>>>
>>>> Darby OGill wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Matt, we definately have the same creak-you described it
>>>>> perfectly...see, I'm not deaf, dumb, and blind !.....you want to
>>>>> experience a touchy throttle, you should drive my turbo volvo s60-
>>>>> wow. It makes you look like an idiot just trying to roll away from
>>>>> a stop.....the sonata is worlds better in that regard. ps got
>>>>> a recall call from dealer concerning the cupholder of all things,
>>>>> doubt they'll relocate it though. Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wasn't saying you were any of those, well maybe a little deaf. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Yes, mine was "recalled" for the cupholder (they replace the rubber
>>>> insert - not sure why), the little trim pieces behind the door
>>>> handles (again the dealer wasn't sure why), the door recline handle
>>>> (contains a notch to catch the seat belt, and adding extra adhesive
>>>> to the headliner.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Does it improve the cupholder at all? Besides the overly touchy
>>> throttle, its really the only thing that I truly dislike about my 06
>>> Sonata.
>>
>>
>>
>> I can't say as mine was "fixed" a day or two after I took delivery and
>> I don't think I ever even used the original cupholder insert. It is
>> still a lousy location for a cupholder as it is too close to the
>> center armrest and I have a hard time grabbing a cup in the rear
>> holder. The front isn't so bad, but the rear is nearly useless unless
>> your arm is a lot more limber than mine.
>>
>>
>> Matt
>
>
> The problem I have with it isn't so much the location... its the overall
> design. It doesn't hold any normal size bottles/cans/cups. The only
> perfect fit I've found so far is a Yahoo glass bottle that is extremely
> fat. Every time I make even a slight stop, whatever bottle I have in
> there leans all the way forward or falls out entirely. Those plastic
> flaps are ludicrous. So now I have a nice collection of muck on my
> shift boot and my carpet.

Yes, mine still isn't good at holding things, but I don't use it all
that often. If you use the front holder, things don't tip as badly.
Using just the rear alone is really a bad idea. The rear cup needs a
cup in the front to hold it in place during stops. Overall, a really
lousy design and implementation of something so simple. This is one
that Hyundai really mess up.


Matt

 

Blair wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>> Blair wrote:
>>
>>> Matt Whiting wrote:
>>>
>>>> Darby OGill wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Matt, we definately have the same creak-you described it
>>>>> perfectly...see, I'm not deaf, dumb, and blind !.....you want to
>>>>> experience a touchy throttle, you should drive my turbo volvo s60-
>>>>> wow. It makes you look like an idiot just trying to roll away from
>>>>> a stop.....the sonata is worlds better in that regard. ps got
>>>>> a recall call from dealer concerning the cupholder of all things,
>>>>> doubt they'll relocate it though. Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wasn't saying you were any of those, well maybe a little deaf. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Yes, mine was "recalled" for the cupholder (they replace the rubber
>>>> insert - not sure why), the little trim pieces behind the door
>>>> handles (again the dealer wasn't sure why), the door recline handle
>>>> (contains a notch to catch the seat belt, and adding extra adhesive
>>>> to the headliner.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Does it improve the cupholder at all? Besides the overly touchy
>>> throttle, its really the only thing that I truly dislike about my 06
>>> Sonata.
>>
>>
>>
>> I can't say as mine was "fixed" a day or two after I took delivery and
>> I don't think I ever even used the original cupholder insert. It is
>> still a lousy location for a cupholder as it is too close to the
>> center armrest and I have a hard time grabbing a cup in the rear
>> holder. The front isn't so bad, but the rear is nearly useless unless
>> your arm is a lot more limber than mine.
>>
>>
>> Matt
>
>
> The problem I have with it isn't so much the location... its the overall
> design. It doesn't hold any normal size bottles/cans/cups. The only
> perfect fit I've found so far is a Yahoo glass bottle that is extremely
> fat. Every time I make even a slight stop, whatever bottle I have in
> there leans all the way forward or falls out entirely. Those plastic
> flaps are ludicrous. So now I have a nice collection of muck on my
> shift boot and my carpet.

Yes, mine still isn't good at holding things, but I don't use it all
that often. If you use the front holder, things don't tip as badly.
Using just the rear alone is really a bad idea. The rear cup needs a
cup in the front to hold it in place during stops. Overall, a really
lousy design and implementation of something so simple. This is one
that Hyundai really mess up.


Matt

 

Blair wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>> Blair wrote:
>>
>>> Matt Whiting wrote:
>>>
>>>> Darby OGill wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Matt, we definately have the same creak-you described it
>>>>> perfectly...see, I'm not deaf, dumb, and blind !.....you want to
>>>>> experience a touchy throttle, you should drive my turbo volvo s60-
>>>>> wow. It makes you look like an idiot just trying to roll away from
>>>>> a stop.....the sonata is worlds better in that regard. ps got
>>>>> a recall call from dealer concerning the cupholder of all things,
>>>>> doubt they'll relocate it though. Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I wasn't saying you were any of those, well maybe a little deaf. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Yes, mine was "recalled" for the cupholder (they replace the rubber
>>>> insert - not sure why), the little trim pieces behind the door
>>>> handles (again the dealer wasn't sure why), the door recline handle
>>>> (contains a notch to catch the seat belt, and adding extra adhesive
>>>> to the headliner.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Does it improve the cupholder at all? Besides the overly touchy
>>> throttle, its really the only thing that I truly dislike about my 06
>>> Sonata.
>>
>>
>>
>> I can't say as mine was "fixed" a day or two after I took delivery and
>> I don't think I ever even used the original cupholder insert. It is
>> still a lousy location for a cupholder as it is too close to the
>> center armrest and I have a hard time grabbing a cup in the rear
>> holder. The front isn't so bad, but the rear is nearly useless unless
>> your arm is a lot more limber than mine.
>>
>>
>> Matt
>
>
> The problem I have with it isn't so much the location... its the overall
> design. It doesn't hold any normal size bottles/cans/cups. The only
> perfect fit I've found so far is a Yahoo glass bottle that is extremely
> fat. Every time I make even a slight stop, whatever bottle I have in
> there leans all the way forward or falls out entirely. Those plastic
> flaps are ludicrous. So now I have a nice collection of muck on my
> shift boot and my carpet.

Yes, mine still isn't good at holding things, but I don't use it all
that often. If you use the front holder, things don't tip as badly.
Using just the rear alone is really a bad idea. The rear cup needs a
cup in the front to hold it in place during stops. Overall, a really
lousy design and implementation of something so simple. This is one
that Hyundai really mess up.


Matt

 

Matt Whiting wrote:
>
> Yes, mine still isn't good at holding things, but I don't use it all
> that often. If you use the front holder, things don't tip as badly.
> Using just the rear alone is really a bad idea. The rear cup needs a
> cup in the front to hold it in place during stops. Overall, a really
> lousy design and implementation of something so simple. This is one
> that Hyundai really mess up.

I can't disagree that this is a bad design, but I haven't had the
problems that others have reported. Except that first time, when I
didn't notice the plastic flap. :-)

Medium to large cups from most fast food places fit well as do 20 oz
drink bottles and 12 oz cans. The 17 oz. water bottles are a little slim
though. Maybe I'm cutting some slack here b/c my previous car (Camry)
had only one size and wouldn't hold large cups (except for those with
the skinny base) or 20 oz. bottles.

 

Matt Whiting wrote:
>
> Yes, mine still isn't good at holding things, but I don't use it all
> that often. If you use the front holder, things don't tip as badly.
> Using just the rear alone is really a bad idea. The rear cup needs a
> cup in the front to hold it in place during stops. Overall, a really
> lousy design and implementation of something so simple. This is one
> that Hyundai really mess up.

I can't disagree that this is a bad design, but I haven't had the
problems that others have reported. Except that first time, when I
didn't notice the plastic flap. :-)

Medium to large cups from most fast food places fit well as do 20 oz
drink bottles and 12 oz cans. The 17 oz. water bottles are a little slim
though. Maybe I'm cutting some slack here b/c my previous car (Camry)
had only one size and wouldn't hold large cups (except for those with
the skinny base) or 20 oz. bottles.