poor experience at Hyundai of Tempe....
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Re: poor experience at Hyundai of Tempe....
Regarding the odor from the a/c ; im an HVAC Tech and run into this
often on residential/commercial applications . After i clean the surface
of the evaporator with special detergent and make sure the pitch is good
on it so all the condensate runs toward the drain opening , I finish
the job by using vinegar on the evaporator coils which nuetralizes the
odor for a pretty long time. If there is any way of getting vinegar on
the evaporator surface in spray form thru the return air intake then it
will make a big difference (im assuming its a draw-thru application on
Hyundais where the blower is downstream of the evaporator/heating coils
; maybe HyundaiTech can confirm this ). Also, if you can get in the
habit of turning off the a/c but allowing the blower to continue to run
a few minutes before youre ready to shut off the engine, this will
re-evaporate whatever condensate is still on the coil surface to the air
, so it doesnt linger ... plus the evaporator housing will rid itself
of any residual condensate that may be puddling from the motion of the
car . Stagnant condensate is the biggest cause of foul odors in a/c
systems of any type.
Dave
often on residential/commercial applications . After i clean the surface
of the evaporator with special detergent and make sure the pitch is good
on it so all the condensate runs toward the drain opening , I finish
the job by using vinegar on the evaporator coils which nuetralizes the
odor for a pretty long time. If there is any way of getting vinegar on
the evaporator surface in spray form thru the return air intake then it
will make a big difference (im assuming its a draw-thru application on
Hyundais where the blower is downstream of the evaporator/heating coils
; maybe HyundaiTech can confirm this ). Also, if you can get in the
habit of turning off the a/c but allowing the blower to continue to run
a few minutes before youre ready to shut off the engine, this will
re-evaporate whatever condensate is still on the coil surface to the air
, so it doesnt linger ... plus the evaporator housing will rid itself
of any residual condensate that may be puddling from the motion of the
car . Stagnant condensate is the biggest cause of foul odors in a/c
systems of any type.
Dave
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don't faint, Matt, but I agree with you. )
Another possibility is that Hyundai or their supplier of the ducting used
recycled HDPE, which can come from milk bottles. Those have the nastiest
smell from spoiled milk. We had some plastic pallets molded from them and
you could smell them from one end of the plant to the other. Finally, put
them outside and then shipped them back. One of the downsides of recycling.
Detergent bottles give all sorts of odors to newly molded parts also.
Tom
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> hyundaitech wrote:
>> 1. The dealer is being nice to you by not charging you for setting up
>> the
>> locks. There are (I believe) a few features on this car that can be
>> programmed to operate in different ways. What you desired was for the
>> locks to be programmed to operate in a way different than the factory
>> setting. This can be done, but it is not Hyundai's responsibility to do
>> so. Hence, they will not pay the dealer for this work.
>
> Then they should design them like Chrysler so that the owner can enable
> and disable these selectable features. If they make it so the user can't
> change it, then they should pay the dealers to do it for free for the
> owner.
>
> Matt
Another possibility is that Hyundai or their supplier of the ducting used
recycled HDPE, which can come from milk bottles. Those have the nastiest
smell from spoiled milk. We had some plastic pallets molded from them and
you could smell them from one end of the plant to the other. Finally, put
them outside and then shipped them back. One of the downsides of recycling.
Detergent bottles give all sorts of odors to newly molded parts also.
Tom
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> hyundaitech wrote:
>> 1. The dealer is being nice to you by not charging you for setting up
>> the
>> locks. There are (I believe) a few features on this car that can be
>> programmed to operate in different ways. What you desired was for the
>> locks to be programmed to operate in a way different than the factory
>> setting. This can be done, but it is not Hyundai's responsibility to do
>> so. Hence, they will not pay the dealer for this work.
>
> Then they should design them like Chrysler so that the owner can enable
> and disable these selectable features. If they make it so the user can't
> change it, then they should pay the dealers to do it for free for the
> owner.
>
> Matt
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Re: poor experience at Hyundai of Tempe....
don't faint, Matt, but I agree with you. )
Another possibility is that Hyundai or their supplier of the ducting used
recycled HDPE, which can come from milk bottles. Those have the nastiest
smell from spoiled milk. We had some plastic pallets molded from them and
you could smell them from one end of the plant to the other. Finally, put
them outside and then shipped them back. One of the downsides of recycling.
Detergent bottles give all sorts of odors to newly molded parts also.
Tom
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> hyundaitech wrote:
>> 1. The dealer is being nice to you by not charging you for setting up
>> the
>> locks. There are (I believe) a few features on this car that can be
>> programmed to operate in different ways. What you desired was for the
>> locks to be programmed to operate in a way different than the factory
>> setting. This can be done, but it is not Hyundai's responsibility to do
>> so. Hence, they will not pay the dealer for this work.
>
> Then they should design them like Chrysler so that the owner can enable
> and disable these selectable features. If they make it so the user can't
> change it, then they should pay the dealers to do it for free for the
> owner.
>
> Matt
Another possibility is that Hyundai or their supplier of the ducting used
recycled HDPE, which can come from milk bottles. Those have the nastiest
smell from spoiled milk. We had some plastic pallets molded from them and
you could smell them from one end of the plant to the other. Finally, put
them outside and then shipped them back. One of the downsides of recycling.
Detergent bottles give all sorts of odors to newly molded parts also.
Tom
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> hyundaitech wrote:
>> 1. The dealer is being nice to you by not charging you for setting up
>> the
>> locks. There are (I believe) a few features on this car that can be
>> programmed to operate in different ways. What you desired was for the
>> locks to be programmed to operate in a way different than the factory
>> setting. This can be done, but it is not Hyundai's responsibility to do
>> so. Hence, they will not pay the dealer for this work.
>
> Then they should design them like Chrysler so that the owner can enable
> and disable these selectable features. If they make it so the user can't
> change it, then they should pay the dealers to do it for free for the
> owner.
>
> Matt
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Re: poor experience at Hyundai of Tempe....
don't faint, Matt, but I agree with you. )
Another possibility is that Hyundai or their supplier of the ducting used
recycled HDPE, which can come from milk bottles. Those have the nastiest
smell from spoiled milk. We had some plastic pallets molded from them and
you could smell them from one end of the plant to the other. Finally, put
them outside and then shipped them back. One of the downsides of recycling.
Detergent bottles give all sorts of odors to newly molded parts also.
Tom
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> hyundaitech wrote:
>> 1. The dealer is being nice to you by not charging you for setting up
>> the
>> locks. There are (I believe) a few features on this car that can be
>> programmed to operate in different ways. What you desired was for the
>> locks to be programmed to operate in a way different than the factory
>> setting. This can be done, but it is not Hyundai's responsibility to do
>> so. Hence, they will not pay the dealer for this work.
>
> Then they should design them like Chrysler so that the owner can enable
> and disable these selectable features. If they make it so the user can't
> change it, then they should pay the dealers to do it for free for the
> owner.
>
> Matt
Another possibility is that Hyundai or their supplier of the ducting used
recycled HDPE, which can come from milk bottles. Those have the nastiest
smell from spoiled milk. We had some plastic pallets molded from them and
you could smell them from one end of the plant to the other. Finally, put
them outside and then shipped them back. One of the downsides of recycling.
Detergent bottles give all sorts of odors to newly molded parts also.
Tom
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> hyundaitech wrote:
>> 1. The dealer is being nice to you by not charging you for setting up
>> the
>> locks. There are (I believe) a few features on this car that can be
>> programmed to operate in different ways. What you desired was for the
>> locks to be programmed to operate in a way different than the factory
>> setting. This can be done, but it is not Hyundai's responsibility to do
>> so. Hence, they will not pay the dealer for this work.
>
> Then they should design them like Chrysler so that the owner can enable
> and disable these selectable features. If they make it so the user can't
> change it, then they should pay the dealers to do it for free for the
> owner.
>
> Matt
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Tom wrote:
> don't faint, Matt, but I agree with you. )
Not a problem! :-)
> Another possibility is that Hyundai or their supplier of the ducting used
> recycled HDPE, which can come from milk bottles. Those have the nastiest
> smell from spoiled milk. We had some plastic pallets molded from them and
> you could smell them from one end of the plant to the other. Finally, put
> them outside and then shipped them back. One of the downsides of recycling.
> Detergent bottles give all sorts of odors to newly molded parts also.
Wow, I'm surprised that any smell would make it through the remolding
process as usually that gets things up to reasonably warm temps. Seems
like it would burn off any milk film that might remain.
Matt
> don't faint, Matt, but I agree with you. )
Not a problem! :-)
> Another possibility is that Hyundai or their supplier of the ducting used
> recycled HDPE, which can come from milk bottles. Those have the nastiest
> smell from spoiled milk. We had some plastic pallets molded from them and
> you could smell them from one end of the plant to the other. Finally, put
> them outside and then shipped them back. One of the downsides of recycling.
> Detergent bottles give all sorts of odors to newly molded parts also.
Wow, I'm surprised that any smell would make it through the remolding
process as usually that gets things up to reasonably warm temps. Seems
like it would burn off any milk film that might remain.
Matt
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Tom wrote:
> don't faint, Matt, but I agree with you. )
Not a problem! :-)
> Another possibility is that Hyundai or their supplier of the ducting used
> recycled HDPE, which can come from milk bottles. Those have the nastiest
> smell from spoiled milk. We had some plastic pallets molded from them and
> you could smell them from one end of the plant to the other. Finally, put
> them outside and then shipped them back. One of the downsides of recycling.
> Detergent bottles give all sorts of odors to newly molded parts also.
Wow, I'm surprised that any smell would make it through the remolding
process as usually that gets things up to reasonably warm temps. Seems
like it would burn off any milk film that might remain.
Matt
> don't faint, Matt, but I agree with you. )
Not a problem! :-)
> Another possibility is that Hyundai or their supplier of the ducting used
> recycled HDPE, which can come from milk bottles. Those have the nastiest
> smell from spoiled milk. We had some plastic pallets molded from them and
> you could smell them from one end of the plant to the other. Finally, put
> them outside and then shipped them back. One of the downsides of recycling.
> Detergent bottles give all sorts of odors to newly molded parts also.
Wow, I'm surprised that any smell would make it through the remolding
process as usually that gets things up to reasonably warm temps. Seems
like it would burn off any milk film that might remain.
Matt
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Tom wrote:
> don't faint, Matt, but I agree with you. )
Not a problem! :-)
> Another possibility is that Hyundai or their supplier of the ducting used
> recycled HDPE, which can come from milk bottles. Those have the nastiest
> smell from spoiled milk. We had some plastic pallets molded from them and
> you could smell them from one end of the plant to the other. Finally, put
> them outside and then shipped them back. One of the downsides of recycling.
> Detergent bottles give all sorts of odors to newly molded parts also.
Wow, I'm surprised that any smell would make it through the remolding
process as usually that gets things up to reasonably warm temps. Seems
like it would burn off any milk film that might remain.
Matt
> don't faint, Matt, but I agree with you. )
Not a problem! :-)
> Another possibility is that Hyundai or their supplier of the ducting used
> recycled HDPE, which can come from milk bottles. Those have the nastiest
> smell from spoiled milk. We had some plastic pallets molded from them and
> you could smell them from one end of the plant to the other. Finally, put
> them outside and then shipped them back. One of the downsides of recycling.
> Detergent bottles give all sorts of odors to newly molded parts also.
Wow, I'm surprised that any smell would make it through the remolding
process as usually that gets things up to reasonably warm temps. Seems
like it would burn off any milk film that might remain.
Matt
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I would think so too, but it does. They even use vented extruders that have
a zero pressure section part way down the barrel where they can exhaust out
the gases. It still stinks to high heaven. With the price of resin
skyrocketing just like gasoline, the incentive is back to use recycled
plastics. It also makes people 'feel' good until they smell their cars.
)
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> Tom wrote:
>> don't faint, Matt, but I agree with you. )
>
> Not a problem! :-)
>
>
>> Another possibility is that Hyundai or their supplier of the ducting used
>> recycled HDPE, which can come from milk bottles. Those have the
>> nastiest smell from spoiled milk. We had some plastic pallets molded
>> from them and you could smell them from one end of the plant to the
>> other. Finally, put them outside and then shipped them back. One of the
>> downsides of recycling. Detergent bottles give all sorts of odors to
>> newly molded parts also.
>
> Wow, I'm surprised that any smell would make it through the remolding
> process as usually that gets things up to reasonably warm temps. Seems
> like it would burn off any milk film that might remain.
>
>
> Matt
a zero pressure section part way down the barrel where they can exhaust out
the gases. It still stinks to high heaven. With the price of resin
skyrocketing just like gasoline, the incentive is back to use recycled
plastics. It also makes people 'feel' good until they smell their cars.
)
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> Tom wrote:
>> don't faint, Matt, but I agree with you. )
>
> Not a problem! :-)
>
>
>> Another possibility is that Hyundai or their supplier of the ducting used
>> recycled HDPE, which can come from milk bottles. Those have the
>> nastiest smell from spoiled milk. We had some plastic pallets molded
>> from them and you could smell them from one end of the plant to the
>> other. Finally, put them outside and then shipped them back. One of the
>> downsides of recycling. Detergent bottles give all sorts of odors to
>> newly molded parts also.
>
> Wow, I'm surprised that any smell would make it through the remolding
> process as usually that gets things up to reasonably warm temps. Seems
> like it would burn off any milk film that might remain.
>
>
> Matt
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I would think so too, but it does. They even use vented extruders that have
a zero pressure section part way down the barrel where they can exhaust out
the gases. It still stinks to high heaven. With the price of resin
skyrocketing just like gasoline, the incentive is back to use recycled
plastics. It also makes people 'feel' good until they smell their cars.
)
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> Tom wrote:
>> don't faint, Matt, but I agree with you. )
>
> Not a problem! :-)
>
>
>> Another possibility is that Hyundai or their supplier of the ducting used
>> recycled HDPE, which can come from milk bottles. Those have the
>> nastiest smell from spoiled milk. We had some plastic pallets molded
>> from them and you could smell them from one end of the plant to the
>> other. Finally, put them outside and then shipped them back. One of the
>> downsides of recycling. Detergent bottles give all sorts of odors to
>> newly molded parts also.
>
> Wow, I'm surprised that any smell would make it through the remolding
> process as usually that gets things up to reasonably warm temps. Seems
> like it would burn off any milk film that might remain.
>
>
> Matt
a zero pressure section part way down the barrel where they can exhaust out
the gases. It still stinks to high heaven. With the price of resin
skyrocketing just like gasoline, the incentive is back to use recycled
plastics. It also makes people 'feel' good until they smell their cars.
)
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> Tom wrote:
>> don't faint, Matt, but I agree with you. )
>
> Not a problem! :-)
>
>
>> Another possibility is that Hyundai or their supplier of the ducting used
>> recycled HDPE, which can come from milk bottles. Those have the
>> nastiest smell from spoiled milk. We had some plastic pallets molded
>> from them and you could smell them from one end of the plant to the
>> other. Finally, put them outside and then shipped them back. One of the
>> downsides of recycling. Detergent bottles give all sorts of odors to
>> newly molded parts also.
>
> Wow, I'm surprised that any smell would make it through the remolding
> process as usually that gets things up to reasonably warm temps. Seems
> like it would burn off any milk film that might remain.
>
>
> Matt
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Re: poor experience at Hyundai of Tempe....
I would think so too, but it does. They even use vented extruders that have
a zero pressure section part way down the barrel where they can exhaust out
the gases. It still stinks to high heaven. With the price of resin
skyrocketing just like gasoline, the incentive is back to use recycled
plastics. It also makes people 'feel' good until they smell their cars.
)
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> Tom wrote:
>> don't faint, Matt, but I agree with you. )
>
> Not a problem! :-)
>
>
>> Another possibility is that Hyundai or their supplier of the ducting used
>> recycled HDPE, which can come from milk bottles. Those have the
>> nastiest smell from spoiled milk. We had some plastic pallets molded
>> from them and you could smell them from one end of the plant to the
>> other. Finally, put them outside and then shipped them back. One of the
>> downsides of recycling. Detergent bottles give all sorts of odors to
>> newly molded parts also.
>
> Wow, I'm surprised that any smell would make it through the remolding
> process as usually that gets things up to reasonably warm temps. Seems
> like it would burn off any milk film that might remain.
>
>
> Matt
a zero pressure section part way down the barrel where they can exhaust out
the gases. It still stinks to high heaven. With the price of resin
skyrocketing just like gasoline, the incentive is back to use recycled
plastics. It also makes people 'feel' good until they smell their cars.
)
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:Q6y8g.8660$lb.785204@news1.epix.net...
> Tom wrote:
>> don't faint, Matt, but I agree with you. )
>
> Not a problem! :-)
>
>
>> Another possibility is that Hyundai or their supplier of the ducting used
>> recycled HDPE, which can come from milk bottles. Those have the
>> nastiest smell from spoiled milk. We had some plastic pallets molded
>> from them and you could smell them from one end of the plant to the
>> other. Finally, put them outside and then shipped them back. One of the
>> downsides of recycling. Detergent bottles give all sorts of odors to
>> newly molded parts also.
>
> Wow, I'm surprised that any smell would make it through the remolding
> process as usually that gets things up to reasonably warm temps. Seems
> like it would burn off any milk film that might remain.
>
>
> Matt
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I'm sure that at least the glove box will need to be pulled to get to the
evaporator coil. Some cars have an access panel on the side, and others
you'd need to pull the whole evaporator housing. Some are made as a one
piece climate control unit, which would require pulling the dash. I
haven't had the occasion to monkey around with the evaporator an an '06
Sonata yet, so I'm not sure which design it uses.
evaporator coil. Some cars have an access panel on the side, and others
you'd need to pull the whole evaporator housing. Some are made as a one
piece climate control unit, which would require pulling the dash. I
haven't had the occasion to monkey around with the evaporator an an '06
Sonata yet, so I'm not sure which design it uses.
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I'm sure that at least the glove box will need to be pulled to get to the
evaporator coil. Some cars have an access panel on the side, and others
you'd need to pull the whole evaporator housing. Some are made as a one
piece climate control unit, which would require pulling the dash. I
haven't had the occasion to monkey around with the evaporator an an '06
Sonata yet, so I'm not sure which design it uses.
evaporator coil. Some cars have an access panel on the side, and others
you'd need to pull the whole evaporator housing. Some are made as a one
piece climate control unit, which would require pulling the dash. I
haven't had the occasion to monkey around with the evaporator an an '06
Sonata yet, so I'm not sure which design it uses.
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Re: poor experience at Hyundai of Tempe....
I'm sure that at least the glove box will need to be pulled to get to the
evaporator coil. Some cars have an access panel on the side, and others
you'd need to pull the whole evaporator housing. Some are made as a one
piece climate control unit, which would require pulling the dash. I
haven't had the occasion to monkey around with the evaporator an an '06
Sonata yet, so I'm not sure which design it uses.
evaporator coil. Some cars have an access panel on the side, and others
you'd need to pull the whole evaporator housing. Some are made as a one
piece climate control unit, which would require pulling the dash. I
haven't had the occasion to monkey around with the evaporator an an '06
Sonata yet, so I'm not sure which design it uses.
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On Thu, 11 May 2006 03:23:28 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>Wow, I'm surprised that any smell would make it through the remolding
>process as usually that gets things up to reasonably warm temps. Seems
>like it would burn off any milk film that might remain.
Plastic doesn't need to be heated to a high enough temp to drive off
impurities or odors. Plastics also absorb odors and hold on to them
tenaciously. Once a plastic pitcher is used for Kool Aid, it practically
ruins it as a water pitcher.
--
Bob
>Wow, I'm surprised that any smell would make it through the remolding
>process as usually that gets things up to reasonably warm temps. Seems
>like it would burn off any milk film that might remain.
Plastic doesn't need to be heated to a high enough temp to drive off
impurities or odors. Plastics also absorb odors and hold on to them
tenaciously. Once a plastic pitcher is used for Kool Aid, it practically
ruins it as a water pitcher.
--
Bob
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Re: poor experience at Hyundai of Tempe....
On Thu, 11 May 2006 03:23:28 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>Wow, I'm surprised that any smell would make it through the remolding
>process as usually that gets things up to reasonably warm temps. Seems
>like it would burn off any milk film that might remain.
Plastic doesn't need to be heated to a high enough temp to drive off
impurities or odors. Plastics also absorb odors and hold on to them
tenaciously. Once a plastic pitcher is used for Kool Aid, it practically
ruins it as a water pitcher.
--
Bob
>Wow, I'm surprised that any smell would make it through the remolding
>process as usually that gets things up to reasonably warm temps. Seems
>like it would burn off any milk film that might remain.
Plastic doesn't need to be heated to a high enough temp to drive off
impurities or odors. Plastics also absorb odors and hold on to them
tenaciously. Once a plastic pitcher is used for Kool Aid, it practically
ruins it as a water pitcher.
--
Bob