Seamus J. Wilson

The owner's manual shows 5W-20. 5W-30 or 10W-30 as appropriate weights.
When I access the hmaservice.com site it show 20W-50 for elevated
temperatures.
Why the discrepancy, why the difference and what weight is suited for
115-120F AZ desert temperatures?
Thank you,
Seamus J. Wilson

Rev. Tom Wenndt

Yes, I have the same engine in my 2005 Kia Sedona minivan. When I bought it
new, I looked over the recommended oil viscosity chart, and I commented to
the service tech, "I haven't seen a chart like this since the 1970's. No
one does this anymore."

The recommended viscosity for hot weather is my Sedona is supposedly 15W40.

However, I have always run 5W30 synthetic year round, and everything has
worked out fine. If one had a concern (like hot Arizona weather), I might
be talked into going as high as 10W40, but I can't really believe you would
want to put 5W30 and 20W50 in the same engine.

My question is, what have you been putting in it up until now? My hunch is
that your engine will continue to do well with whatever you have been doing.
Keep the oil changed (that engine seems to need frequent oil changes), and
you will do fine.

Hope this helps!


"Seamus J. Wilson" <sligo@***.net> wrote in message
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> The owner's manual shows 5W-20. 5W-30 or 10W-30 as appropriate weights.
> When I access the hmaservice.com site it show 20W-50 for elevated
> temperatures.
> Why the discrepancy, why the difference and what weight is suited for
> 115-120F AZ desert temperatures?
> Thank you,
> Seamus J. Wilson
>

']['unez

Seamus, I have a 2005 XG350L and have used 10W-30 Mobil 1 since I have owned
it, I live in Las Vegas so we have basically the same weather.

']['unez

"Seamus J. Wilson" <sligo@***.net> wrote in message
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> The owner's manual shows 5W-20. 5W-30 or 10W-30 as appropriate weights.
> When I access the hmaservice.com site it show 20W-50 for elevated
> temperatures.
> Why the discrepancy, why the difference and what weight is suited for
> 115-120F AZ desert temperatures?
> Thank you,
> Seamus J. Wilson
>

Steve R.

Seamus,

I live in NW AZ and as Tunez mentioned, we have the same weather.

My dealer uses Castrol GTX 10W30 for our climate, which is starting to warm
up. Been using the same oil in
both Sonatas 2002 and 2006 since we bought them new.

Flew back into Vegas last night from a business trip and it was 96 at 8PM!

Steve


"Seamus J. Wilson" <sligo@***.net> wrote in message
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> The owner's manual shows 5W-20. 5W-30 or 10W-30 as appropriate weights.
> When I access the hmaservice.com site it show 20W-50 for elevated
> temperatures.
> Why the discrepancy, why the difference and what weight is suited for
> 115-120F AZ desert temperatures?
> Thank you,
> Seamus J. Wilson
>
>

Matt Whiting

Seamus J. Wilson wrote:
> The owner's manual shows 5W-20. 5W-30 or 10W-30 as appropriate weights.
> When I access the hmaservice.com site it show 20W-50 for elevated
> temperatures.
> Why the discrepancy, why the difference and what weight is suited for
> 115-120F AZ desert temperatures?
> Thank you,
> Seamus J. Wilson
>
>

Does the owners manual show a temperature range for the recommended
viscosities? My recollection is that 10W-30 is good for at least 100F,
but I can't remember if it goes above that. Most owners manuals for
cars I've owned show a temperature range chart for each recommended
viscosity, but I can't remember if my Sonata did or not.

Matt

Seamus J. Wilson

Matt,
The owner's manual only shows SAE grades, no temperature charts or
references.
Best and thanks for reply,
Seamus J.
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> Seamus J. Wilson wrote:
>> The owner's manual shows 5W-20. 5W-30 or 10W-30 as appropriate weights.
>> When I access the hmaservice.com site it show 20W-50 for elevated
>> temperatures.
>> Why the discrepancy, why the difference and what weight is suited for
>> 115-120F AZ desert temperatures?
>> Thank you,
>> Seamus J. Wilson
>
> Does the owners manual show a temperature range for the recommended
> viscosities? My recollection is that 10W-30 is good for at least 100F,
> but I can't remember if it goes above that. Most owners manuals for cars
> I've owned show a temperature range chart for each recommended viscosity,
> but I can't remember if my Sonata did or not.
>
> Matt

Matt Whiting

Seamus J. Wilson wrote:
> Matt,
> The owner's manual only shows SAE grades, no temperature charts or
> references.
> Best and thanks for reply,
> Seamus J.
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:rIM0i.9872$Oc.226609@news1.epix.net...
>> Seamus J. Wilson wrote:
>>> The owner's manual shows 5W-20. 5W-30 or 10W-30 as appropriate weights.
>>> When I access the hmaservice.com site it show 20W-50 for elevated
>>> temperatures.
>>> Why the discrepancy, why the difference and what weight is suited for
>>> 115-120F AZ desert temperatures?
>>> Thank you,
>>> Seamus J. Wilson
>> Does the owners manual show a temperature range for the recommended
>> viscosities? My recollection is that 10W-30 is good for at least 100F,
>> but I can't remember if it goes above that. Most owners manuals for cars
>> I've owned show a temperature range chart for each recommended viscosity,
>> but I can't remember if my Sonata did or not.
>>
>> Matt
>
>

That is unfortunate. I can't believe you need 20W-50, but I'm not going
to argue with hmaservice. Personally, I'd use a 10W-30 full synthetic
and not worry about it.

Matt

billyboy24d

>
> That is unfortunate. I can't believe you need 20W-50, but I'm not going
> to argue with hmaservice. Personally, I'd use a 10W-30 full synthetic
> and not worry about it.
>
> Matt- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I would almost never recomend putting 20-50 in your car. I don't care
if the dealer said it's ok, or Hyundai. As a mechanic I have seen
many people (including other mechanics) make this mistake. Thick oil
like 20-50 is for deisel engines and heavy machines that have a lot
more internal slop. Our car engines have tighter tolerances (unless
their old and high milage) and because the oil is thicker, it will
cause elevated oil pressure wich is fine for the metal but murder on
seals. It could cause your engine to develop leaks and possibly start
burning the oil. If you want to go with a higher range,10-30 should be
more then enough. That being said, It's your car, put in what you
want.

Bill

Seamus J. Wilson

Thank you all for the helpful advice.
Best,
Seamus J.
"billyboy24d" <billyboy24d@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>>
>> That is unfortunate. I can't believe you need 20W-50, but I'm not going
>> to argue with hmaservice. Personally, I'd use a 10W-30 full synthetic
>> and not worry about it.
>>
>> Matt- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> I would almost never recomend putting 20-50 in your car. I don't care
> if the dealer said it's ok, or Hyundai. As a mechanic I have seen
> many people (including other mechanics) make this mistake. Thick oil
> like 20-50 is for deisel engines and heavy machines that have a lot
> more internal slop. Our car engines have tighter tolerances (unless
> their old and high milage) and because the oil is thicker, it will
> cause elevated oil pressure wich is fine for the metal but murder on
> seals. It could cause your engine to develop leaks and possibly start
> burning the oil. If you want to go with a higher range,10-30 should be
> more then enough. That being said, It's your car, put in what you
> want.
>
> Bill
>