Sirius or XM Oughta Have Deal With Hyundai
11-17-2003, 10:21 AM
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Sirius or XM Oughta Have Deal With Hyundai
It appears the satellite radio companies do not yet have an arrangement with
our make.
This is not to be critical, merely constructive & suggestive
XM has deal with GM etal
Sirius has deal with Daimlier (sp?), Ford and possibly others
not all the models of the above manufacturers are eligible, and i presume they
just don't think hyundai people are prospects
well, i would disagree with such assumption
hyundai owners are amongst the most discriminating and best informed, and the
luxury & pleasure of satellite radio is now within the realm or reality or
grasp of an adaptive hyundai consumer
Sirius seems to have the most non-music choices, but is something like only one
in nine sales of the satellite thingees
XM reportedly has sold a million so far
Sirius reportedly has only sold about 150,000
i think i might do sirius, because too much music is much too music, and sirius
apparently has LESS COMMERCIALS !
what the marketeers oughta do is have ancient ole euro classical music as
continuous background to talk & news, but that might be tooooooo compli-cat-ed
to engineer, though it's reported we went to the moon or sumthin in 1969 (but
that was maybe because of the Tang in the space ship's fuel tank)
for further info:
please see the nice article in today's major Atlanta newspaper:
http://www.ajc.com
our make.
This is not to be critical, merely constructive & suggestive
XM has deal with GM etal
Sirius has deal with Daimlier (sp?), Ford and possibly others
not all the models of the above manufacturers are eligible, and i presume they
just don't think hyundai people are prospects
well, i would disagree with such assumption
hyundai owners are amongst the most discriminating and best informed, and the
luxury & pleasure of satellite radio is now within the realm or reality or
grasp of an adaptive hyundai consumer
Sirius seems to have the most non-music choices, but is something like only one
in nine sales of the satellite thingees
XM reportedly has sold a million so far
Sirius reportedly has only sold about 150,000
i think i might do sirius, because too much music is much too music, and sirius
apparently has LESS COMMERCIALS !
what the marketeers oughta do is have ancient ole euro classical music as
continuous background to talk & news, but that might be tooooooo compli-cat-ed
to engineer, though it's reported we went to the moon or sumthin in 1969 (but
that was maybe because of the Tang in the space ship's fuel tank)
for further info:
please see the nice article in today's major Atlanta newspaper:
http://www.ajc.com
11-18-2003, 11:45 PM
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Re: Sirius or XM Oughta Have Deal With Hyundai
robtcohen@aol.com.spam.no (Robert Cohen) wrote:
>XM has deal with GM etal
I drove a (rental) Cadillac around Illinois a few weeks back and,
after getting used to XM I really like it. Whether I like it
$120/year's worth remains to be seen. For those who don't know, some
of it is X rated, they have a bluegrass channel--something for about
everyone.
Fred, W8OY
notjfriley@ieee.nospam.org
>XM has deal with GM etal
I drove a (rental) Cadillac around Illinois a few weeks back and,
after getting used to XM I really like it. Whether I like it
$120/year's worth remains to be seen. For those who don't know, some
of it is X rated, they have a bluegrass channel--something for about
everyone.
Fred, W8OY
notjfriley@ieee.nospam.org
11-19-2003, 12:30 AM
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Re: Sirius or XM Oughta Have Deal With Hyundai
The Playboy Channel costs extra each month and is not part of the
$10/mo fee.
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:45:03 -0600, Prefered Customer
<notjfriley@no.thanks.ieee.org> wrote:
>robtcohen@aol.com.spam.no (Robert Cohen) wrote:
>>XM has deal with GM etal
>
>I drove a (rental) Cadillac around Illinois a few weeks back and,
>after getting used to XM I really like it. Whether I like it
>$120/year's worth remains to be seen. For those who don't know, some
>of it is X rated, they have a bluegrass channel--something for about
>everyone.
>
>Fred, W8OY
>notjfriley@ieee.nospam.org
$10/mo fee.
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:45:03 -0600, Prefered Customer
<notjfriley@no.thanks.ieee.org> wrote:
>robtcohen@aol.com.spam.no (Robert Cohen) wrote:
>>XM has deal with GM etal
>
>I drove a (rental) Cadillac around Illinois a few weeks back and,
>after getting used to XM I really like it. Whether I like it
>$120/year's worth remains to be seen. For those who don't know, some
>of it is X rated, they have a bluegrass channel--something for about
>everyone.
>
>Fred, W8OY
>notjfriley@ieee.nospam.org
11-19-2003, 09:55 AM
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Re: Sirius or XM Oughta Have Deal With Hyundai
I respectfully disagree. One big reason is the fact that one has to pay for
it monthly. I think it is bad enough we pay for television. I remember
when I was younger, and would ask my parents "why do we have to have
commercials?" My parents would explain so we don't have to pay for
television. Now we pay for it, and have alot more commercials. I remember
when cable t.v. was commercial free. I see the same thing happening to
Satellite radio. Also digital radio is on the horizon, which is supposed to
offer a better product for free. Another thing is that I believe that we as
Hyundai owners watch our money more carefully that other car owners; and I
am guessing that most Hyundai owners would not be willing to pay for radio.
This is not meant to be a flame, just an opinion. I will admit that
Satellite radio has caught on more than I thought it would. I would've
thought the public would be outraged at the suggestion we pay for radio.
"Robert Cohen" <robtcohen@aol.com.spam.no> wrote in message
news:20031117102145.28917.00000456@mb-m17.aol.com...
> It appears the satellite radio companies do not yet have an arrangement
with
> our make.
>
> This is not to be critical, merely constructive & suggestive
>
> XM has deal with GM etal
>
> Sirius has deal with Daimlier (sp?), Ford and possibly others
>
> not all the models of the above manufacturers are eligible, and i presume
they
> just don't think hyundai people are prospects
>
> well, i would disagree with such assumption
>
> hyundai owners are amongst the most discriminating and best informed, and
the
> luxury & pleasure of satellite radio is now within the realm or reality or
> grasp of an adaptive hyundai consumer
>
> Sirius seems to have the most non-music choices, but is something like
only one
> in nine sales of the satellite thingees
>
> XM reportedly has sold a million so far
>
> Sirius reportedly has only sold about 150,000
>
> i think i might do sirius, because too much music is much too music, and
sirius
> apparently has LESS COMMERCIALS !
>
> what the marketeers oughta do is have ancient ole euro classical music as
> continuous background to talk & news, but that might be tooooooo
compli-cat-ed
> to engineer, though it's reported we went to the moon or sumthin in 1969
(but
> that was maybe because of the Tang in the space ship's fuel tank)
>
> for further info:
>
> please see the nice article in today's major Atlanta newspaper:
>
> http://www.ajc.com
>
>
it monthly. I think it is bad enough we pay for television. I remember
when I was younger, and would ask my parents "why do we have to have
commercials?" My parents would explain so we don't have to pay for
television. Now we pay for it, and have alot more commercials. I remember
when cable t.v. was commercial free. I see the same thing happening to
Satellite radio. Also digital radio is on the horizon, which is supposed to
offer a better product for free. Another thing is that I believe that we as
Hyundai owners watch our money more carefully that other car owners; and I
am guessing that most Hyundai owners would not be willing to pay for radio.
This is not meant to be a flame, just an opinion. I will admit that
Satellite radio has caught on more than I thought it would. I would've
thought the public would be outraged at the suggestion we pay for radio.
"Robert Cohen" <robtcohen@aol.com.spam.no> wrote in message
news:20031117102145.28917.00000456@mb-m17.aol.com...
> It appears the satellite radio companies do not yet have an arrangement
with
> our make.
>
> This is not to be critical, merely constructive & suggestive
>
> XM has deal with GM etal
>
> Sirius has deal with Daimlier (sp?), Ford and possibly others
>
> not all the models of the above manufacturers are eligible, and i presume
they
> just don't think hyundai people are prospects
>
> well, i would disagree with such assumption
>
> hyundai owners are amongst the most discriminating and best informed, and
the
> luxury & pleasure of satellite radio is now within the realm or reality or
> grasp of an adaptive hyundai consumer
>
> Sirius seems to have the most non-music choices, but is something like
only one
> in nine sales of the satellite thingees
>
> XM reportedly has sold a million so far
>
> Sirius reportedly has only sold about 150,000
>
> i think i might do sirius, because too much music is much too music, and
sirius
> apparently has LESS COMMERCIALS !
>
> what the marketeers oughta do is have ancient ole euro classical music as
> continuous background to talk & news, but that might be tooooooo
compli-cat-ed
> to engineer, though it's reported we went to the moon or sumthin in 1969
(but
> that was maybe because of the Tang in the space ship's fuel tank)
>
> for further info:
>
> please see the nice article in today's major Atlanta newspaper:
>
> http://www.ajc.com
>
>
11-19-2003, 12:46 PM
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Re: Sirius or XM Oughta Have Deal With Hyundai
"Nikoli Yetti" <subgenii@bob.com> wrote:
>Hyundai owners watch our money more carefully that other car owners; and I
>am guessing that most Hyundai owners would not be willing to pay for radio.
You're certainly correct. But there are arguments for it. One
argument is that there is no outlet in my area for my favorite music
style. A second is that most FM stations are, for competitive
reasons, smashing and slashing their transmitted audio until what you
head has little to do with what went on the record, tape or CD
originally. XM is certainly using gain leveling and peak clipping but
it is done so as to be, in general, below the annoyance threshold.
XM has commercials and they are (probably) what will make XM have
enough cash in hand to overtake and crush Sirius, the competing
service. They are as annoying on XM as they are on commercial radio.
But on commercial radio, there is no subscription fee to cover
overhead so they must, have to, no choice but to sell and deliver at
least twelve minutes of commercials per hour. Another way to say this
is that you do not pay for commercial radio directly--but you do pay
for it in the costs of annoyance and through the higher cost of
products that you buy. So, given that you pay for your music no
matter what, the only choice left is how you want to pay.
One thing that you can use to argue against XM or Sirius is how far
north you live and in how rural or urban an area. If the antenna
cannot "see" the satellite, there's no signal. Inside the receiver
there's a buffer circuit that holds about seven seconds of music in
reserve in case you drive through a "hole" in the coverage. In large
cities and along major routes, both Sirius and XM are using technology
similar to cell phones to fill in holes. When you get into small-town
America, the repeaters aren't there yet. When you get into rural
America, same problem. A drive along a country road in rural West
Virginia, down between the mountains, and you're not going to have
service. The Sirius high-apogee system means you much more likely to
have service with them no matter where you go than with the
geo-stationary satellites (Rock and Roll) used by XM; much more
likely--but not guaranteed.
Fred, W8OY
notjfriley@ieee.nospam.org
>Hyundai owners watch our money more carefully that other car owners; and I
>am guessing that most Hyundai owners would not be willing to pay for radio.
You're certainly correct. But there are arguments for it. One
argument is that there is no outlet in my area for my favorite music
style. A second is that most FM stations are, for competitive
reasons, smashing and slashing their transmitted audio until what you
head has little to do with what went on the record, tape or CD
originally. XM is certainly using gain leveling and peak clipping but
it is done so as to be, in general, below the annoyance threshold.
XM has commercials and they are (probably) what will make XM have
enough cash in hand to overtake and crush Sirius, the competing
service. They are as annoying on XM as they are on commercial radio.
But on commercial radio, there is no subscription fee to cover
overhead so they must, have to, no choice but to sell and deliver at
least twelve minutes of commercials per hour. Another way to say this
is that you do not pay for commercial radio directly--but you do pay
for it in the costs of annoyance and through the higher cost of
products that you buy. So, given that you pay for your music no
matter what, the only choice left is how you want to pay.
One thing that you can use to argue against XM or Sirius is how far
north you live and in how rural or urban an area. If the antenna
cannot "see" the satellite, there's no signal. Inside the receiver
there's a buffer circuit that holds about seven seconds of music in
reserve in case you drive through a "hole" in the coverage. In large
cities and along major routes, both Sirius and XM are using technology
similar to cell phones to fill in holes. When you get into small-town
America, the repeaters aren't there yet. When you get into rural
America, same problem. A drive along a country road in rural West
Virginia, down between the mountains, and you're not going to have
service. The Sirius high-apogee system means you much more likely to
have service with them no matter where you go than with the
geo-stationary satellites (Rock and Roll) used by XM; much more
likely--but not guaranteed.
Fred, W8OY
notjfriley@ieee.nospam.org
11-19-2003, 08:59 PM
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Re: Sirius or XM Oughta Have Deal With Hyundai
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 22:45:03 -0600, Prefered Customer
<notjfriley@no.thanks.ieee.org> wrote:
>robtcohen@aol.com.spam.no (Robert Cohen) wrote:
>>XM has deal with GM etal
>
>I drove a (rental) Cadillac around Illinois a few weeks back and,
>after getting used to XM I really like it. Whether I like it
>$120/year's worth remains to be seen. For those who don't know, some
>of it is X rated, they have a bluegrass channel--something for about
>everyone.
>
>Fred, W8OY
>notjfriley@ieee.nospam.org
After driving a rental car with Sirius, I got the XM Sky-Fi kit and
put it in my Elantra. I haven't listened to local radio for over a
month.
<notjfriley@no.thanks.ieee.org> wrote:
>robtcohen@aol.com.spam.no (Robert Cohen) wrote:
>>XM has deal with GM etal
>
>I drove a (rental) Cadillac around Illinois a few weeks back and,
>after getting used to XM I really like it. Whether I like it
>$120/year's worth remains to be seen. For those who don't know, some
>of it is X rated, they have a bluegrass channel--something for about
>everyone.
>
>Fred, W8OY
>notjfriley@ieee.nospam.org
After driving a rental car with Sirius, I got the XM Sky-Fi kit and
put it in my Elantra. I haven't listened to local radio for over a
month.
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