Dave in Lake Villa

'Yes, but coolant serves other purposes in addition to heat transfer.
And pure water isn't very good at corrosion protection, seal protection,
etc.
Matt'

REPLY: True. Which is why i had also mentioned in the particular RV post
thread i made in that Forum , that a corrosion inhibitor was required in
conjunction with the 100% distilled water . This assumes NO A/C is on
the car also , as, with straight water, it is possible to freeze up the
heating coil (with stagnant water only in it) since it is downstream of
the A/C's evaporator. With A/C, at least a 25% coolant to 75% water is
advisable .

Dave in Lake Villa

'I've been an engineer for 23 years and I paid my way through
engineering school working as a diesel mechanic, truck driver and logger
for nearly 7 years. I've seen Detroit diesels with sludge an inch thick
in spots and carbon a half inch thick (nearly closed off the transfer
ports in the cylinders). This caused no ill affects at all other than
power loss from the carbon deposits. This engine had nearly 10,000 hours
on it.
Even if the machine removed every bit of sludge and caused no harm at
all, the point is that is also doesn't help any so it is money wasted.
Nobody can see inside your engine so having it spotless makes no
difference.
Do you own stock in this company?
Matt '

REPLY: Glad to see you have had a good career Matt ; however, unless
you have first hand experience with this Bilstien Machine , have seen
the results, and the evidence , etc.... you should reserve any
disparaging comments regarding it. Your comments should be of an
inquisitive nature and not of an absolute disent nature . That is my
advice for you and i present it in all respect. As for it 'not
helping'... you dont know that either. In my particular case, i had it
done to a 1998 CHevy Cargo Van with 108,000 miles on it and it totally
cured a ticking valve lifter immediately after the Bilstien Flush.
Further, if the flush is done correctly / repeated in severe
circumstances....it will allow maximum flow of oil to reach critical
areas of the engine the same that Medical RotoDrilling does to a person
who has plaque in his arteries .

Dave in Lake Villa

'I've been an engineer for 23 years and I paid my way through
engineering school working as a diesel mechanic, truck driver and logger
for nearly 7 years. I've seen Detroit diesels with sludge an inch thick
in spots and carbon a half inch thick (nearly closed off the transfer
ports in the cylinders). This caused no ill affects at all other than
power loss from the carbon deposits. This engine had nearly 10,000 hours
on it.
Even if the machine removed every bit of sludge and caused no harm at
all, the point is that is also doesn't help any so it is money wasted.
Nobody can see inside your engine so having it spotless makes no
difference.
Do you own stock in this company?
Matt '

REPLY: Glad to see you have had a good career Matt ; however, unless
you have first hand experience with this Bilstien Machine , have seen
the results, and the evidence , etc.... you should reserve any
disparaging comments regarding it. Your comments should be of an
inquisitive nature and not of an absolute disent nature . That is my
advice for you and i present it in all respect. As for it 'not
helping'... you dont know that either. In my particular case, i had it
done to a 1998 CHevy Cargo Van with 108,000 miles on it and it totally
cured a ticking valve lifter immediately after the Bilstien Flush.
Further, if the flush is done correctly / repeated in severe
circumstances....it will allow maximum flow of oil to reach critical
areas of the engine the same that Medical RotoDrilling does to a person
who has plaque in his arteries .

Dave in Lake Villa

'I've been an engineer for 23 years and I paid my way through
engineering school working as a diesel mechanic, truck driver and logger
for nearly 7 years. I've seen Detroit diesels with sludge an inch thick
in spots and carbon a half inch thick (nearly closed off the transfer
ports in the cylinders). This caused no ill affects at all other than
power loss from the carbon deposits. This engine had nearly 10,000 hours
on it.
Even if the machine removed every bit of sludge and caused no harm at
all, the point is that is also doesn't help any so it is money wasted.
Nobody can see inside your engine so having it spotless makes no
difference.
Do you own stock in this company?
Matt '

REPLY: Glad to see you have had a good career Matt ; however, unless
you have first hand experience with this Bilstien Machine , have seen
the results, and the evidence , etc.... you should reserve any
disparaging comments regarding it. Your comments should be of an
inquisitive nature and not of an absolute disent nature . That is my
advice for you and i present it in all respect. As for it 'not
helping'... you dont know that either. In my particular case, i had it
done to a 1998 CHevy Cargo Van with 108,000 miles on it and it totally
cured a ticking valve lifter immediately after the Bilstien Flush.
Further, if the flush is done correctly / repeated in severe
circumstances....it will allow maximum flow of oil to reach critical
areas of the engine the same that Medical RotoDrilling does to a person
who has plaque in his arteries .

Dave in Lake Villa

'I'll put my technical background against yours any day of the week.
What are your credentials? I have two BS degrees, am completing a
masters at present and am a licensed professional engineer in NY state
(and you can look that up on their web site if you don't believe me).
OK, your turn.
Matt'

REPLY: Matt, In the interest of civility in this NG, Im not even going
there. I have adoped a personal philosophy over the years and it goes
like this : If I (or someone else) has not had FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE
with something/someone....then it is a wise person who reserves making
comment until such time that it is fully justifiable and appropriate
based on firm evidence. This has served me very well . I wish no
animosity between you and myself Matt. There is a plethera of knowledge
to be had in this NG and we should focus in on that instead . I hope
you will agree. And i humbly apologize if i offended you in anyway
concerning this thread. Dave.

Dave in Lake Villa

'I'll put my technical background against yours any day of the week.
What are your credentials? I have two BS degrees, am completing a
masters at present and am a licensed professional engineer in NY state
(and you can look that up on their web site if you don't believe me).
OK, your turn.
Matt'

REPLY: Matt, In the interest of civility in this NG, Im not even going
there. I have adoped a personal philosophy over the years and it goes
like this : If I (or someone else) has not had FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE
with something/someone....then it is a wise person who reserves making
comment until such time that it is fully justifiable and appropriate
based on firm evidence. This has served me very well . I wish no
animosity between you and myself Matt. There is a plethera of knowledge
to be had in this NG and we should focus in on that instead . I hope
you will agree. And i humbly apologize if i offended you in anyway
concerning this thread. Dave.

Dave in Lake Villa

'I'll put my technical background against yours any day of the week.
What are your credentials? I have two BS degrees, am completing a
masters at present and am a licensed professional engineer in NY state
(and you can look that up on their web site if you don't believe me).
OK, your turn.
Matt'

REPLY: Matt, In the interest of civility in this NG, Im not even going
there. I have adoped a personal philosophy over the years and it goes
like this : If I (or someone else) has not had FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE
with something/someone....then it is a wise person who reserves making
comment until such time that it is fully justifiable and appropriate
based on firm evidence. This has served me very well . I wish no
animosity between you and myself Matt. There is a plethera of knowledge
to be had in this NG and we should focus in on that instead . I hope
you will agree. And i humbly apologize if i offended you in anyway
concerning this thread. Dave.

Dave in Lake Villa

'I wonder how cars have operated so well for 100 years without this
magic machine?
Matt'

REPLY: The same way they did before Capacitive Discharge Ignition
Systems came along.

Dave in Lake Villa

'I wonder how cars have operated so well for 100 years without this
magic machine?
Matt'

REPLY: The same way they did before Capacitive Discharge Ignition
Systems came along.

Dave in Lake Villa

'I wonder how cars have operated so well for 100 years without this
magic machine?
Matt'

REPLY: The same way they did before Capacitive Discharge Ignition
Systems came along.

Brian Nystrom

Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
> 'Dave's been a good boy here. There have been others who have been out
> of line with their comments and have dredged up their so-called trash
> from other places.
> I don't car about what anyone else says happens other places, not am I
> going to go there just to look for dirt on Dave. He could be a great guy
> or he could be the world's largest angle-side-side. As long as he's
> respectful here (as he has been), I'll reply.'
>
> REPLY: I appreciate your attitude and philosophy H.T. The main reason
> why i have folks like 'Godless Heathen' stalk me in an attempt to
> discredit me , is because I simply challenge their willful
> godlessness/immorality/ of degradation ... and they dont seem to
> like that too much. They think i should be tolerant to their 'religion'
> of suppressed moral conscience, which isnt going to happen. The main
> reason America is in the moral mess its in , is because of complacency
> toward the Immoral Hedonists. Youd be surprised where these Varmin pop
> up in the NG's i visit. Its not that i hate them...its that i take a
> stand against their cause ; the same that our Founding Fathers did when
> this (once) great country was birthed.

You've got a pretty warped perspective, Dave. All it takes is a brief
look around to see that some of the most immoral people on the planet
also claim to be very religious. Religion has been used to justify some
of the most heinously immoral acts in history. Religious belief is not a
prerequisite for morality, nor is it a guarantee of it. Conversely, lack
of religious belief does not portend immorality or hedonism. You sound
like just another typical intolerant religious zealot. You may believe
that you're part of the solution, but people like you are actually the
major source of the problem.

Who was it who said "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"?
If you don't want other people's beliefs imposed on you, don't impose
yours upon them. Pretty simple, eh? If more people followed that
principle and adopted the "live and let live" credo, there'd be a lot
less strife in this world.

Can we go back to talking about cars now?

Brian Nystrom

Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
> 'Dave's been a good boy here. There have been others who have been out
> of line with their comments and have dredged up their so-called trash
> from other places.
> I don't car about what anyone else says happens other places, not am I
> going to go there just to look for dirt on Dave. He could be a great guy
> or he could be the world's largest angle-side-side. As long as he's
> respectful here (as he has been), I'll reply.'
>
> REPLY: I appreciate your attitude and philosophy H.T. The main reason
> why i have folks like 'Godless Heathen' stalk me in an attempt to
> discredit me , is because I simply challenge their willful
> godlessness/immorality/ of degradation ... and they dont seem to
> like that too much. They think i should be tolerant to their 'religion'
> of suppressed moral conscience, which isnt going to happen. The main
> reason America is in the moral mess its in , is because of complacency
> toward the Immoral Hedonists. Youd be surprised where these Varmin pop
> up in the NG's i visit. Its not that i hate them...its that i take a
> stand against their cause ; the same that our Founding Fathers did when
> this (once) great country was birthed.

You've got a pretty warped perspective, Dave. All it takes is a brief
look around to see that some of the most immoral people on the planet
also claim to be very religious. Religion has been used to justify some
of the most heinously immoral acts in history. Religious belief is not a
prerequisite for morality, nor is it a guarantee of it. Conversely, lack
of religious belief does not portend immorality or hedonism. You sound
like just another typical intolerant religious zealot. You may believe
that you're part of the solution, but people like you are actually the
major source of the problem.

Who was it who said "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"?
If you don't want other people's beliefs imposed on you, don't impose
yours upon them. Pretty simple, eh? If more people followed that
principle and adopted the "live and let live" credo, there'd be a lot
less strife in this world.

Can we go back to talking about cars now?

Brian Nystrom

Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
> 'Dave's been a good boy here. There have been others who have been out
> of line with their comments and have dredged up their so-called trash
> from other places.
> I don't car about what anyone else says happens other places, not am I
> going to go there just to look for dirt on Dave. He could be a great guy
> or he could be the world's largest angle-side-side. As long as he's
> respectful here (as he has been), I'll reply.'
>
> REPLY: I appreciate your attitude and philosophy H.T. The main reason
> why i have folks like 'Godless Heathen' stalk me in an attempt to
> discredit me , is because I simply challenge their willful
> godlessness/immorality/ of degradation ... and they dont seem to
> like that too much. They think i should be tolerant to their 'religion'
> of suppressed moral conscience, which isnt going to happen. The main
> reason America is in the moral mess its in , is because of complacency
> toward the Immoral Hedonists. Youd be surprised where these Varmin pop
> up in the NG's i visit. Its not that i hate them...its that i take a
> stand against their cause ; the same that our Founding Fathers did when
> this (once) great country was birthed.

You've got a pretty warped perspective, Dave. All it takes is a brief
look around to see that some of the most immoral people on the planet
also claim to be very religious. Religion has been used to justify some
of the most heinously immoral acts in history. Religious belief is not a
prerequisite for morality, nor is it a guarantee of it. Conversely, lack
of religious belief does not portend immorality or hedonism. You sound
like just another typical intolerant religious zealot. You may believe
that you're part of the solution, but people like you are actually the
major source of the problem.

Who was it who said "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"?
If you don't want other people's beliefs imposed on you, don't impose
yours upon them. Pretty simple, eh? If more people followed that
principle and adopted the "live and let live" credo, there'd be a lot
less strife in this world.

Can we go back to talking about cars now?

Brian Nystrom

Matt Whiting wrote:
> Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
>
>> 'Dave apparently is the same poster who I recently noticed touting
>> incorrect advice about anti-freeze usage in alt.rv. (along with his OT
>> and unwanted Christian Fundamentalistic proselytizing) '
>>
>> REPLY: Had you bothered to really investigate that running straight
>> distilled water makes an automotive engine cool better than a 50/50
>> coolant solution....you would have found i was in fact, correct.
>
>
> Yes, but coolant serves other purposes in addition to heat transfer. And
> pure water isn't very good at corrosion protection, seal protection, etc.

It also has a lower boiling point, a higher freezing point and therefore
doesn't protect against either as well as a 50:50 mix. Water is fine in
racing engines that get torn down after a few hundred miles, but it's
ridiculous to run it in a street engine.

Brian Nystrom

Matt Whiting wrote:
> Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
>
>> 'Dave apparently is the same poster who I recently noticed touting
>> incorrect advice about anti-freeze usage in alt.rv. (along with his OT
>> and unwanted Christian Fundamentalistic proselytizing) '
>>
>> REPLY: Had you bothered to really investigate that running straight
>> distilled water makes an automotive engine cool better than a 50/50
>> coolant solution....you would have found i was in fact, correct.
>
>
> Yes, but coolant serves other purposes in addition to heat transfer. And
> pure water isn't very good at corrosion protection, seal protection, etc.

It also has a lower boiling point, a higher freezing point and therefore
doesn't protect against either as well as a 50:50 mix. Water is fine in
racing engines that get torn down after a few hundred miles, but it's
ridiculous to run it in a street engine.