The so called 'bumper to bumper' Hyundai warranty
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"Screwtape III" <gfy@bkbusa.com> wrote in message
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> Most vehicles on the market today have timing belts and require regular
> changes over the life of the vehicle.
I've owned GM's for decades before recently buying a 2004 Sonata and I've
never had to replace a timing belt as a matter of routine maintenance. I've
changed them because I was in there for something else, but that was totally
discretionary. My cars typically go for around 250,000 miles and they're
still running on the factory timing belt. As you say below, some aren't
belts, some are chains, but those that are belts have not required changing
at 60,000.
So- in all of my research prior to buying this Sonata I had not discovered
that they require a timing belt every 60,000 miles. Does this apply to all
Hyundai's or only to certain motors?
>
> OTOH, my Astro's 4.3 V6 and my wife's Malibu 3.1 V6 both have timing
> chains. This advantage is unfortunately offset by the suckey
> transmissions Chevy makes.
>
Hey - that tranny isn't sucky. We had a Malibu that the Hyundai replaced as
my wife's car, and the Malibu is now my daughter's car. It was a
disappointing car in a lot of respects and I'd never buy another Malibu, but
I certainly wouldn't complain about the tranny. It's crisp and it runs
trouble free forever as long as you never let it get thirsty for ATF. GM
trannies get pretty upset over not having enough ATF. Easy to lose the pump
and then the clutches.
Now wheel bearings on the other hand... that's another story...
--
-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
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rayindesmoines@yahoo.com wrote:
> How about timing belt? Today, I was quoted $800 to do the 60,000
> replacement service on my 2002 XG350L.
>
> That was a total surprise. I found the same thing for $399 about 2
> hours away.
>
Make sure they use a Hyundai timing belt or you'll void the warranty.
> How about timing belt? Today, I was quoted $800 to do the 60,000
> replacement service on my 2002 XG350L.
>
> That was a total surprise. I found the same thing for $399 about 2
> hours away.
>
Make sure they use a Hyundai timing belt or you'll void the warranty.
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Dave in Lake Villa wrote:
> 'While you can quibble about whether bulbs should be covered under
> warranty (they're supposed to be for the first 12 months), if you can't
> be bothered to change your own bulbs, you deserve to get
> soaked for $21.
> '
>
> REPLY: I would have replaced the bulbs myself, EXCEPT the Service
> Advisor at the Dealership said 'it was covered' ; so, i took it in only
> for the Service Manager to tell me it wasnt. By then, they had changed
> the light bulb and i had to part with $21 . Of course the next time one
> goes , i will do it myself. I just think that saying a car is 'bumper
> to bumper' waranteed , is a little misleading. I expect to pay for oil ,
> filters, etc...but not light bulbs ...especially 2 within 3 months just
> over 12 k. miles.
>
It sounds like you screwed yourself. If you were told that it was
covered, you should have refused to pay the $21. You DON'T have to
accept that kind of treatment! I suggest you go back and demand a
refund. Threatening to take your business elsewhere should be enough
leverage to get them to capitulate. If it's not, you shouldn't be
dealing with them anyway, as they're dishonest.
The warranty ('04 at least) clearly states that "belts, brake pads and
linings, clutch linings, filters, wiper blades and bulbs" are covered
for 12 months/12K miles "only when the replacement is the result of a
defect in material or factory workmanship". The dealer was not obligated
to replace the bulbs under warranty, but for a $2 part, one would think
they might accommodate you as a good will gesture, especially if you
bought the car from them and/or had them service it regularly. However,
it's not their fault that you didn't read the warranty info completely.
It's not like it's hidden, either. It's right on Hyundai's web site, so
anyone can check it before buying a car.
http://www.hyundaiusa.com/global/warranty/warranty.aspx
> 'While you can quibble about whether bulbs should be covered under
> warranty (they're supposed to be for the first 12 months), if you can't
> be bothered to change your own bulbs, you deserve to get
> soaked for $21.
> '
>
> REPLY: I would have replaced the bulbs myself, EXCEPT the Service
> Advisor at the Dealership said 'it was covered' ; so, i took it in only
> for the Service Manager to tell me it wasnt. By then, they had changed
> the light bulb and i had to part with $21 . Of course the next time one
> goes , i will do it myself. I just think that saying a car is 'bumper
> to bumper' waranteed , is a little misleading. I expect to pay for oil ,
> filters, etc...but not light bulbs ...especially 2 within 3 months just
> over 12 k. miles.
>
It sounds like you screwed yourself. If you were told that it was
covered, you should have refused to pay the $21. You DON'T have to
accept that kind of treatment! I suggest you go back and demand a
refund. Threatening to take your business elsewhere should be enough
leverage to get them to capitulate. If it's not, you shouldn't be
dealing with them anyway, as they're dishonest.
The warranty ('04 at least) clearly states that "belts, brake pads and
linings, clutch linings, filters, wiper blades and bulbs" are covered
for 12 months/12K miles "only when the replacement is the result of a
defect in material or factory workmanship". The dealer was not obligated
to replace the bulbs under warranty, but for a $2 part, one would think
they might accommodate you as a good will gesture, especially if you
bought the car from them and/or had them service it regularly. However,
it's not their fault that you didn't read the warranty info completely.
It's not like it's hidden, either. It's right on Hyundai's web site, so
anyone can check it before buying a car.
http://www.hyundaiusa.com/global/warranty/warranty.aspx
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rayindesmoines@yahoo.com wrote:
> Don't worry about the small stuff. I just found out today that you
> need to replace the timing belt at 60,000 and that if you don't, it is
> likely to ruin the engine if it breaks. I was quoted $800 for parts
> and labor for my 2002 XG350L..
>
> I checked around and found I could get the work done in another city
> for less than $500.
>
> It's still a shock to have a service item cost that kind of money.
>
> I've bought my last Hyundai.
>
Before you condemn Hyundai, check around to see what that same service
costs on other cars. You'll probably find that it's just as much on any
comparable vehicle. You could always buy all the necessary tools and a
service manual (or use the FREE online manual that Hyundai provides), do
the work yourself and save a bundle. If you're not willing to do that,
you have to pay someone to do it for you, plain and simple.
> Don't worry about the small stuff. I just found out today that you
> need to replace the timing belt at 60,000 and that if you don't, it is
> likely to ruin the engine if it breaks. I was quoted $800 for parts
> and labor for my 2002 XG350L..
>
> I checked around and found I could get the work done in another city
> for less than $500.
>
> It's still a shock to have a service item cost that kind of money.
>
> I've bought my last Hyundai.
>
Before you condemn Hyundai, check around to see what that same service
costs on other cars. You'll probably find that it's just as much on any
comparable vehicle. You could always buy all the necessary tools and a
service manual (or use the FREE online manual that Hyundai provides), do
the work yourself and save a bundle. If you're not willing to do that,
you have to pay someone to do it for you, plain and simple.
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Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Screwtape III" <gfy@bkbusa.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0e9uh49r853002@news.individual.net...
>
>>Most vehicles on the market today have timing belts and require regular
>>changes over the life of the vehicle.
>
> I've owned GM's for decades before recently buying a 2004 Sonata and I've
> never had to replace a timing belt as a matter of routine maintenance. I've
> changed them because I was in there for something else, but that was totally
> discretionary. My cars typically go for around 250,000 miles and they're
> still running on the factory timing belt. As you say below, some aren't
> belts, some are chains, but those that are belts have not required changing
> at 60,000.
I'll bet that none of these vehicles had a 100,000 mile drivetrain
warranty either, did they?
Hyundai requires that you change the timing belt in order to maintain
the warranty. That's the price you pay for the extended warranty
coverage. That doesn't mean that the timing belt is going to wear out in
60K, 80K or even 100K miles, but Hyundai is not willing to take that
chance, since they're the one's that will be paying for the engine
damage if it does fail. If you want the coverage, you agree to the
terms. If you don't care about the warranty, you don't have to change
the timing belt. Your call.
> So- in all of my research prior to buying this Sonata I had not discovered
> that they require a timing belt every 60,000 miles. Does this apply to all
> Hyundai's or only to certain motors?
All of them that I know of. FWIW, when I replaced the timing belt on my
old Excel @64K miles, it was nearly indistiguishable from the new belt I
installed. The replacement was still in the car when I sold it, 112K
miles later. I'm not suggesting that anyone take the risk of not
changing a timing belt, but they can last a long time.
The only timing belt failure I've experienced was in a car with a
leaking main seal that coated the timing belt with oil for ~20K+ miles
until it finally shed a couple of teeth. However, it was not a Hyundai
and I have no idea how durable the timing belts in the current Hyundai
models typically are. When my Elantra hits 60K miles, I'll change the
timing belt myself to keep Hyundai happy, as I did with the Excel.
> "Screwtape III" <gfy@bkbusa.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0e9uh49r853002@news.individual.net...
>
>>Most vehicles on the market today have timing belts and require regular
>>changes over the life of the vehicle.
>
> I've owned GM's for decades before recently buying a 2004 Sonata and I've
> never had to replace a timing belt as a matter of routine maintenance. I've
> changed them because I was in there for something else, but that was totally
> discretionary. My cars typically go for around 250,000 miles and they're
> still running on the factory timing belt. As you say below, some aren't
> belts, some are chains, but those that are belts have not required changing
> at 60,000.
I'll bet that none of these vehicles had a 100,000 mile drivetrain
warranty either, did they?
Hyundai requires that you change the timing belt in order to maintain
the warranty. That's the price you pay for the extended warranty
coverage. That doesn't mean that the timing belt is going to wear out in
60K, 80K or even 100K miles, but Hyundai is not willing to take that
chance, since they're the one's that will be paying for the engine
damage if it does fail. If you want the coverage, you agree to the
terms. If you don't care about the warranty, you don't have to change
the timing belt. Your call.
> So- in all of my research prior to buying this Sonata I had not discovered
> that they require a timing belt every 60,000 miles. Does this apply to all
> Hyundai's or only to certain motors?
All of them that I know of. FWIW, when I replaced the timing belt on my
old Excel @64K miles, it was nearly indistiguishable from the new belt I
installed. The replacement was still in the car when I sold it, 112K
miles later. I'm not suggesting that anyone take the risk of not
changing a timing belt, but they can last a long time.
The only timing belt failure I've experienced was in a car with a
leaking main seal that coated the timing belt with oil for ~20K+ miles
until it finally shed a couple of teeth. However, it was not a Hyundai
and I have no idea how durable the timing belts in the current Hyundai
models typically are. When my Elantra hits 60K miles, I'll change the
timing belt myself to keep Hyundai happy, as I did with the Excel.
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i dont know what the big deal is about replacing a belt, yeah its a
inconvienience and costs about 400.00 but its only every 100,000 kms..
my friend has a honda accord 1995 with 450,000 kms and shes changed 4 so
far..
"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
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> "Screwtape III" <gfy@bkbusa.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0e9uh49r853002@news.individual.net...
>>
>> Most vehicles on the market today have timing belts and require regular
>> changes over the life of the vehicle.
>
> I've owned GM's for decades before recently buying a 2004 Sonata and I've
> never had to replace a timing belt as a matter of routine maintenance.
> I've
> changed them because I was in there for something else, but that was
> totally
> discretionary. My cars typically go for around 250,000 miles and they're
> still running on the factory timing belt. As you say below, some aren't
> belts, some are chains, but those that are belts have not required
> changing
> at 60,000.
>
> So- in all of my research prior to buying this Sonata I had not discovered
> that they require a timing belt every 60,000 miles. Does this apply to
> all
> Hyundai's or only to certain motors?
>
>>
>> OTOH, my Astro's 4.3 V6 and my wife's Malibu 3.1 V6 both have timing
>> chains. This advantage is unfortunately offset by the suckey
>> transmissions Chevy makes.
>>
>
> Hey - that tranny isn't sucky. We had a Malibu that the Hyundai replaced
> as
> my wife's car, and the Malibu is now my daughter's car. It was a
> disappointing car in a lot of respects and I'd never buy another Malibu,
> but
> I certainly wouldn't complain about the tranny. It's crisp and it runs
> trouble free forever as long as you never let it get thirsty for ATF. GM
> trannies get pretty upset over not having enough ATF. Easy to lose the
> pump
> and then the clutches.
>
> Now wheel bearings on the other hand... that's another story...
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>
>
inconvienience and costs about 400.00 but its only every 100,000 kms..
my friend has a honda accord 1995 with 450,000 kms and shes changed 4 so
far..
"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
news:c966b$437dcc31$45289579$4688@ALLTEL.NET...
>
> "Screwtape III" <gfy@bkbusa.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0e9uh49r853002@news.individual.net...
>>
>> Most vehicles on the market today have timing belts and require regular
>> changes over the life of the vehicle.
>
> I've owned GM's for decades before recently buying a 2004 Sonata and I've
> never had to replace a timing belt as a matter of routine maintenance.
> I've
> changed them because I was in there for something else, but that was
> totally
> discretionary. My cars typically go for around 250,000 miles and they're
> still running on the factory timing belt. As you say below, some aren't
> belts, some are chains, but those that are belts have not required
> changing
> at 60,000.
>
> So- in all of my research prior to buying this Sonata I had not discovered
> that they require a timing belt every 60,000 miles. Does this apply to
> all
> Hyundai's or only to certain motors?
>
>>
>> OTOH, my Astro's 4.3 V6 and my wife's Malibu 3.1 V6 both have timing
>> chains. This advantage is unfortunately offset by the suckey
>> transmissions Chevy makes.
>>
>
> Hey - that tranny isn't sucky. We had a Malibu that the Hyundai replaced
> as
> my wife's car, and the Malibu is now my daughter's car. It was a
> disappointing car in a lot of respects and I'd never buy another Malibu,
> but
> I certainly wouldn't complain about the tranny. It's crisp and it runs
> trouble free forever as long as you never let it get thirsty for ATF. GM
> trannies get pretty upset over not having enough ATF. Easy to lose the
> pump
> and then the clutches.
>
> Now wheel bearings on the other hand... that's another story...
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>
>
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Putting a component in a vehicle that has the potential to ruin the
engine if it fails is poor engineering. The Hyundais use an
interference engine and the belt failure will ruin it. It's a built-in
time bomb and had I known about it, I would not have purchased the car.
For 2006, they have come to their senses by putting timing chains in
the vehicles.
engine if it fails is poor engineering. The Hyundais use an
interference engine and the belt failure will ruin it. It's a built-in
time bomb and had I known about it, I would not have purchased the car.
For 2006, they have come to their senses by putting timing chains in
the vehicles.
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I've long criticized interference engines, but most automakers still use
them. Unfortunately they're hard to avoid. Last I checked, Toyota had no
interference engines that were belt driven. The problem is that with fuel
economy standards continuing to encourage higher compression engines to
get more power out of a smaller (and more econimical engine), compression
ratios continue to increase. The higher the compression ratio, the more
difficult it is to make a noninterference engine.
them. Unfortunately they're hard to avoid. Last I checked, Toyota had no
interference engines that were belt driven. The problem is that with fuel
economy standards continuing to encourage higher compression engines to
get more power out of a smaller (and more econimical engine), compression
ratios continue to increase. The higher the compression ratio, the more
difficult it is to make a noninterference engine.
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Dealers are free to charge whatever they want. Some dealers charge more to
offset higher business costs such as higher rents in some areas. I take a
little issue with the use of the term "rip-off" when a customer agrees to
a price and receives the work which was contracted. The customer bears
some responsibility to check into pricing at a number of venues, and Ray
should be commended for doing so. Ask yourselves-- is saving $400 worth 4
hours driving? The answer varies. But Ray has made the point that it's at
least worth investigating. All those times I've posted that prices will
vary with geographic area-- they're true.
Also, be sure to determine whether you're comparing apples to apples. The
higher price quote may have also included a new tensioner and drive belts
while the lower quote may not. I'm not arguing this makes a $400
difference (it doesn't), but it may be worth considering. For what it's
worth, I strongly recommend replacing the tensioner with the belt. It's
only covered by the 5/60 warranty, and if it fails, the timing belt could
slip, causing the same damage as if the belt had broken or stripped.
For sake of comparison, another technician recently replaced the timing
belt and tensioner (but not drive belts) on an XG300 at my place of
employment, and the total for parts and labor was about $850. Considering
geographic differences, that does make the $800 in Des Moines sound a bit
high, even if it does include the drive belts. But again, the dealer has
the right to charge whatever he wants for his services.
offset higher business costs such as higher rents in some areas. I take a
little issue with the use of the term "rip-off" when a customer agrees to
a price and receives the work which was contracted. The customer bears
some responsibility to check into pricing at a number of venues, and Ray
should be commended for doing so. Ask yourselves-- is saving $400 worth 4
hours driving? The answer varies. But Ray has made the point that it's at
least worth investigating. All those times I've posted that prices will
vary with geographic area-- they're true.
Also, be sure to determine whether you're comparing apples to apples. The
higher price quote may have also included a new tensioner and drive belts
while the lower quote may not. I'm not arguing this makes a $400
difference (it doesn't), but it may be worth considering. For what it's
worth, I strongly recommend replacing the tensioner with the belt. It's
only covered by the 5/60 warranty, and if it fails, the timing belt could
slip, causing the same damage as if the belt had broken or stripped.
For sake of comparison, another technician recently replaced the timing
belt and tensioner (but not drive belts) on an XG300 at my place of
employment, and the total for parts and labor was about $850. Considering
geographic differences, that does make the $800 in Des Moines sound a bit
high, even if it does include the drive belts. But again, the dealer has
the right to charge whatever he wants for his services.
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"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Mike Marlow wrote:
> > "Screwtape III" <gfy@bkbusa.com> wrote in message
> > news:xn0e9uh49r853002@news.individual.net...
> >
> >>Most vehicles on the market today have timing belts and require regular
> >>changes over the life of the vehicle.
> >
> > I've owned GM's for decades before recently buying a 2004 Sonata and
I've
> > never had to replace a timing belt as a matter of routine maintenance.
I've
> > changed them because I was in there for something else, but that was
totally
> > discretionary. My cars typically go for around 250,000 miles and
they're
> > still running on the factory timing belt. As you say below, some aren't
> > belts, some are chains, but those that are belts have not required
changing
> > at 60,000.
>
> I'll bet that none of these vehicles had a 100,000 mile drivetrain
> warranty either, did they?
>
> Hyundai requires that you change the timing belt in order to maintain
> the warranty. That's the price you pay for the extended warranty
> coverage. That doesn't mean that the timing belt is going to wear out in
> 60K, 80K or even 100K miles, but Hyundai is not willing to take that
> chance, since they're the one's that will be paying for the engine
> damage if it does fail. If you want the coverage, you agree to the
> terms. If you don't care about the warranty, you don't have to change
> the timing belt. Your call.
>
No need for the lecture - I simply responded to the comment that most
vehicles on the market today have timing belts and require regular changes.
No matter whether they had a 100,000 mile warranty or not - the facts is the
facts.
--
-Mike-
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"Jody" <jaar72ibear@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> i dont know what the big deal is about replacing a belt, yeah its a
> inconvienience and costs about 400.00 but its only every 100,000 kms..
> my friend has a honda accord 1995 with 450,000 kms and shes changed 4 so
> far..
Big deal? Never said it was. My - this is a sensative little group isn't
it? If you don't mind changing a timing belt every 60K then fine. But -
that is an extreme warranty requirement. Will I do it? Sure, I bought the
car and I like the car. Hyundai requires it to maintain the warranty, so
I'll do it. But a car with a 100,000 mile warranty should not require what
is a fairly major repair in order to maintain the warranty. You are
investing in the design problem to save the manufacturer from having to
honor their warranty.
--
-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
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On 18 Nov 2005 13:40:50 -0800, "rayindesmoines@yahoo.com"
<rayindesmoines@yahoo.com> wrote:
>But it's not $400 in Des Moines, it's $800 and if I hadn't made the
>call to other midwest dealers, I would have been ripped off. Believe
>me, I am going to write Hyundai about the gouging here.
Well, I guess you could just sell the car and buy something that you
won't have to complain or whine about. But then again, you'd just
probably find something on your next vehicle to whine about....."Boo
Hoo, the world is trying to screw me". Get over it and move on.......
<rayindesmoines@yahoo.com> wrote:
>But it's not $400 in Des Moines, it's $800 and if I hadn't made the
>call to other midwest dealers, I would have been ripped off. Believe
>me, I am going to write Hyundai about the gouging here.
Well, I guess you could just sell the car and buy something that you
won't have to complain or whine about. But then again, you'd just
probably find something on your next vehicle to whine about....."Boo
Hoo, the world is trying to screw me". Get over it and move on.......
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In article <464c97cb112064b2895e4c8cc421a2cd@localhost.talkab outautos.com>,
hyundaitech wrote:
> For sake of comparison, another technician recently replaced the timing
> belt and tensioner (but not drive belts) on an XG300 at my place of
> employment, and the total for parts and labor was about $850. Considering
> geographic differences, that does make the $800 in Des Moines sound a bit
> high, even if it does include the drive belts. But again, the dealer has
> the right to charge whatever he wants for his services.
Why would a belt/tensioner change cost $850? Does labor cost $200/hr or
something?
Chris
hyundaitech wrote:
> For sake of comparison, another technician recently replaced the timing
> belt and tensioner (but not drive belts) on an XG300 at my place of
> employment, and the total for parts and labor was about $850. Considering
> geographic differences, that does make the $800 in Des Moines sound a bit
> high, even if it does include the drive belts. But again, the dealer has
> the right to charge whatever he wants for his services.
Why would a belt/tensioner change cost $850? Does labor cost $200/hr or
something?
Chris
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Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Jody" <jaar72ibear@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:N1pff.4084$w84.770919@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>
>>i dont know what the big deal is about replacing a belt, yeah its a
>>inconvienience and costs about 400.00 but its only every 100,000 kms..
>>my friend has a honda accord 1995 with 450,000 kms and shes changed 4 so
>>far..
>
>
> Big deal? Never said it was.
Then why bother to whine about it?
> My - this is a sensative little group isn't
> it? If you don't mind changing a timing belt every 60K then fine. But -
> that is an extreme warranty requirement.
In your opinion. Obviously, that's not the general consensus here.
> Will I do it? Sure, I bought the
> car and I like the car. Hyundai requires it to maintain the warranty, so
> I'll do it. But a car with a 100,000 mile warranty should not require what
> is a fairly major repair in order to maintain the warranty.
Again, that's your opinion, not a fact.
> You are
> investing in the design problem to save the manufacturer from having to
> honor their warranty.
>
Who says there's a design problem? It's not as if timing belts are
popping on Hyundais left and right. Hyundai feels that changing the
timing belt at 60K miles is prudent maintenance. Other car manufacturers
do too. This isn't as unusual as you think it is.
> "Jody" <jaar72ibear@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:N1pff.4084$w84.770919@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>
>>i dont know what the big deal is about replacing a belt, yeah its a
>>inconvienience and costs about 400.00 but its only every 100,000 kms..
>>my friend has a honda accord 1995 with 450,000 kms and shes changed 4 so
>>far..
>
>
> Big deal? Never said it was.
Then why bother to whine about it?
> My - this is a sensative little group isn't
> it? If you don't mind changing a timing belt every 60K then fine. But -
> that is an extreme warranty requirement.
In your opinion. Obviously, that's not the general consensus here.
> Will I do it? Sure, I bought the
> car and I like the car. Hyundai requires it to maintain the warranty, so
> I'll do it. But a car with a 100,000 mile warranty should not require what
> is a fairly major repair in order to maintain the warranty.
Again, that's your opinion, not a fact.
> You are
> investing in the design problem to save the manufacturer from having to
> honor their warranty.
>
Who says there's a design problem? It's not as if timing belts are
popping on Hyundais left and right. Hyundai feels that changing the
timing belt at 60K miles is prudent maintenance. Other car manufacturers
do too. This isn't as unusual as you think it is.