komobu

I have a 2006 Sonata with a 3.3 v6 engine. I only get 17mpg when
driving around town. I drive pretty conservatively and there is only
15k on it so I am rather surprised that I am not getting 22 or 23 mpg.
Please let me know what kind of mileage you get with an 06 or 07
Sonata so I can tell if it is just my car or if they all are bad on
gas.

Thanks
Pat

Edwin Pawlowski

"komobu" <curranpg@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have a 2006 Sonata with a 3.3 v6 engine. I only get 17mpg when
> driving around town. I drive pretty conservatively and there is only
> 15k on it so I am rather surprised that I am not getting 22 or 23 mpg.
> Please let me know what kind of mileage you get with an 06 or 07
> Sonata so I can tell if it is just my car or if they all are bad on
> gas.

I think you are doing OK around town. I drive a mix of highway, steady back
road, fairly easy city (small town?)driving. I get about 23 on average, 25
to 26 on straight highway. EPS rating is 20 and no one ever gets the EPS
rating so expecting 23 is out of the question, IMO. Ratings are being
revised to be more realistic starting, I think, in 2008.

Dust

"komobu" <curranpg@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have a 2006 Sonata with a 3.3 v6 engine. I only get 17mpg when
> driving around town. I drive pretty conservatively and there is only
> 15k on it so I am rather surprised that I am not getting 22 or 23 mpg.
> Please let me know what kind of mileage you get with an 06 or 07
> Sonata so I can tell if it is just my car or if they all are bad on
> gas.
>
> Thanks
> Pat
>

I get about 19-20 mpg with the 4 cylinders local road, suburb style city.

Matt Whiting

komobu wrote:
> I have a 2006 Sonata with a 3.3 v6 engine. I only get 17mpg when
> driving around town. I drive pretty conservatively and there is only
> 15k on it so I am rather surprised that I am not getting 22 or 23 mpg.
> Please let me know what kind of mileage you get with an 06 or 07
> Sonata so I can tell if it is just my car or if they all are bad on
> gas.

Isn't the city rating 20 for your car? And given that the EPA ratings
are typically optimistic, I'd say 17 in town is unusually low,
especially if you live in a climate that is cold this time of year. I
have a four cylinder Sonata and I get only 26-29 in the winter driving
mostly on the highway commuting to work. I doubt I'd get more than 20
in the city and my car has a 24 MPG city rating nad 34 highway. I've
never got about 32 even on the highway.

I don't think Hyundai can match GM and Toyota for mileage, but I'm not
sure they are the worst out there either. Although, one test I saw on
the Sonata vs. a Camry, Accord and I think a GM car had the Sonata as
the worst of the bunch.

Matt

gerry

[original post is likely clipped to save bandwidth]
On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 23:16:32 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:

>komobu wrote:
>> I have a 2006 Sonata with a 3.3 v6 engine. I only get 17mpg when
>> driving around town. I drive pretty conservatively and there is only
>> 15k on it so I am rather surprised that I am not getting 22 or 23 mpg.
>> Please let me know what kind of mileage you get with an 06 or 07
>> Sonata so I can tell if it is just my car or if they all are bad on
>> gas.
>
>Isn't the city rating 20 for your car? And given that the EPA ratings
>are typically optimistic, I'd say 17 in town is unusually low,
>especially if you live in a climate that is cold this time of year. I
>have a four cylinder Sonata and I get only 26-29 in the winter driving
>mostly on the highway commuting to work. I doubt I'd get more than 20
>in the city and my car has a 24 MPG city rating nad 34 highway. I've
>never got about 32 even on the highway.

EPA figures are also based on using gasoline. In many areas of the
country, "gas" is 10% ethanol. Ethanol has noticeably less energy per
gallon than pure gasoline.

The math seems to suggest only 3% or so less mpg. Subjectively (my
experience when driving between areas that had 10% ethanol vs pure
gasoline appear to have more than 3% mpg loss. Since the areas were not
identical, it's impossible for me to me to be sure.

Anybody have real test data of performance of different engines with
different fuel blends?

gerry

--

Personal home page - http://gogood.com

gerry misspelled in my email address to confuse robots

Matt Whiting

Matt Whiting wrote:
> komobu wrote:
>
>> I have a 2006 Sonata with a 3.3 v6 engine. I only get 17mpg when
>> driving around town. I drive pretty conservatively and there is only
>> 15k on it so I am rather surprised that I am not getting 22 or 23 mpg.
>> Please let me know what kind of mileage you get with an 06 or 07
>> Sonata so I can tell if it is just my car or if they all are bad on
>> gas.
>
>
> Isn't the city rating 20 for your car? And given that the EPA ratings
> are typically optimistic, I'd say 17 in town is unusually low,
> especially if you live in a climate that is cold this time of year. I
> have a four cylinder Sonata and I get only 26-29 in the winter driving
> mostly on the highway commuting to work. I doubt I'd get more than 20
> in the city and my car has a 24 MPG city rating nad 34 highway. I've
> never got about 32 even on the highway.
>
> I don't think Hyundai can match GM and Toyota for mileage, but I'm not
> sure they are the worst out there either. Although, one test I saw on
> the Sonata vs. a Camry, Accord and I think a GM car had the Sonata as
> the worst of the bunch.

I meant to say "not unusually low" above. Sorry for the typo.

Matt

Tom

Another person opted for a V6 under the misconception that he needed more
'power'. ) The 4 has more than enough power to move my '06 briskly in
passing mode. I have been consistently getting 24.6 +- around town with an
occasional 15 mile highway trip to the next town. People, you don't need a
V6!!!!! Stop wasting gas! Sure you can afford to buy it but why?????

I'll get off my soapbox now. I love my Sonata and will buy another. I wish
they had a pickup truck, diesel, or hybrid, however.

Tom



"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> komobu wrote:
>> I have a 2006 Sonata with a 3.3 v6 engine. I only get 17mpg when
>> driving around town. I drive pretty conservatively and there is only
>> 15k on it so I am rather surprised that I am not getting 22 or 23 mpg.
>> Please let me know what kind of mileage you get with an 06 or 07
>> Sonata so I can tell if it is just my car or if they all are bad on
>> gas.
>
> Isn't the city rating 20 for your car? And given that the EPA ratings are
> typically optimistic, I'd say 17 in town is unusually low, especially if
> you live in a climate that is cold this time of year. I have a four
> cylinder Sonata and I get only 26-29 in the winter driving mostly on the
> highway commuting to work. I doubt I'd get more than 20 in the city and
> my car has a 24 MPG city rating nad 34 highway. I've never got about 32
> even on the highway.
>
> I don't think Hyundai can match GM and Toyota for mileage, but I'm not
> sure they are the worst out there either. Although, one test I saw on the
> Sonata vs. a Camry, Accord and I think a GM car had the Sonata as the
> worst of the bunch.
>
> Matt

Edwin Pawlowski

"Tom" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Another person opted for a V6 under the misconception that he needed more
> 'power'. ) The 4 has more than enough power to move my '06 briskly in
> passing mode. I have been consistently getting 24.6 +- around town with
> an occasional 15 mile highway trip to the next town. People, you don't
> need a V6!!!!! Stop wasting gas! Sure you can afford to buy it but
> why?????
>
> I'll get off my soapbox now. I love my Sonata and will buy another. I
> wish they had a pickup truck, diesel, or hybrid, however.

Well, for a couple of reasons. First of all, the Limited (which I have)
only comes with the V6. I wanted all the goodies and I'm willing to pay for
it.

Second, yes, the four is adequate, but I wanted more than just adequate.
Sometimes I just like to accelerate fast, not just adequately.

It may depress you further to know that I have and use my remote starter.
Yes, on the really cold mornings, or after work, my car is just sitting
there burning gas, getting warmed up so my pretty tush does not have to get
onto a cold leather seat. I set the heated seat on when I park the car so
it will warm my buns when I get in.

I want to thank all of you that eat at Burger King and McDonalds for eating
all those burgers and making leather for my seats readily available and
reasonably priced. If all you ate was tofu, I'd be sitting on mohair seat
covers.

Mike Marlow

"Tom" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Another person opted for a V6 under the misconception that he needed more
> 'power'. ) The 4 has more than enough power to move my '06 briskly in
> passing mode. I have been consistently getting 24.6 +- around town with
an
> occasional 15 mile highway trip to the next town. People, you don't need
a
> V6!!!!! Stop wasting gas! Sure you can afford to buy it but why?????
>

Many of us test drove 4 cylinders with automatics and found the performance
to be less than remarkable. Quite poor, in fact. Therefore, we own six
cylinders. I'm glad you like your 4, but please don't suggest that because
a 4 is brisk enough for you, that it should satisfy the needs of everyone.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Matt Whiting

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

> "Tom" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:LNRyh.389$I8.351@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
>
>>Another person opted for a V6 under the misconception that he needed more
>>'power'. ) The 4 has more than enough power to move my '06 briskly in
>>passing mode. I have been consistently getting 24.6 +- around town with
>>an occasional 15 mile highway trip to the next town. People, you don't
>>need a V6!!!!! Stop wasting gas! Sure you can afford to buy it but
>>why?????
>>
>>I'll get off my soapbox now. I love my Sonata and will buy another. I
>>wish they had a pickup truck, diesel, or hybrid, however.
>
>
> Well, for a couple of reasons. First of all, the Limited (which I have)
> only comes with the V6. I wanted all the goodies and I'm willing to pay for
> it.
>
> Second, yes, the four is adequate, but I wanted more than just adequate.
> Sometimes I just like to accelerate fast, not just adequately.

Then you need a Corvette or a Viper. Even a V-6 Sonata doesn't
accelerate even close to fast.

Matt

Edwin Pawlowski

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> Then you need a Corvette or a Viper. Even a V-6 Sonata doesn't accelerate
> even close to fast.

I had a Mitsubishi 3000 for a while. Life is full of compromises and it was
not a practical every day driver. Right now, the Sonata is as fast as I'm
going to get.

Vineeth

On Feb 9, 5:23 am, "Mike Marlow" <mmar...@alltel.net> wrote:
> "Tom" <tjwit...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>
> news:LNRyh.389$I8.351@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
>
> > Another person opted for a V6 under the misconception that he needed more
> > 'power'. ) The 4 has more than enough power to move my '06 briskly in
> > passing mode. I have been consistently getting 24.6 +- around town with
> an
> > occasional 15 mile highway trip to the next town. People, you don't need
> a
> > V6!!!!! Stop wasting gas! Sure you can afford to buy it but why?????
>
> Many of us test drove 4 cylinders with automatics and found the performance
> to be less than remarkable. Quite poor, in fact. Therefore, we own six
> cylinders. I'm glad you like your 4, but please don't suggest that because
> a 4 is brisk enough for you, that it should satisfy the needs of everyone.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREM...@alltel.net

Very true indeed Mike! i test drove a few 4 cylinders b4 giving in &
going for what I felt was "adequate" power and picking up the V6.
Yeah in response to the OP I feel an average of 17 is pretty good. I
have a mix of highway(30%) & city driving & get an average of 17. I
once did get 32 on the highway only driving through Virginia ( not
faster than 55mph)

Rev. Tom Wenndt

Where do you live? I am in the Midwest, and it has been bitterly cold here.
In Winter, the gas mileage in all my cars suffers pretty significantly, and
when it is cold, it always will. But they all come up in Summer nicely.

There have been some other long threads about Sonata fuel mileage in the
past. Archive and read those - they are interesting.

Tom Wenndt


"komobu" <curranpg@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1170959256.529837.190040@j27g2000cwj.googlegr oups.com...
>I have a 2006 Sonata with a 3.3 v6 engine. I only get 17mpg when
> driving around town. I drive pretty conservatively and there is only
> 15k on it so I am rather surprised that I am not getting 22 or 23 mpg.
> Please let me know what kind of mileage you get with an 06 or 07
> Sonata so I can tell if it is just my car or if they all are bad on
> gas.
>
> Thanks
> Pat
>

Eric G.

"Vineeth" <vineeth.alex@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1171037987.932965.77750@h3g2000cwc.googlegrou ps.com:

> On Feb 9, 5:23 am, "Mike Marlow" <mmar...@alltel.net> wrote:
>> "Tom" <tjwit...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:LNRyh.389$I8.351@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
>>
>> > Another person opted for a V6 under the misconception that he
>> > needed more 'power'. ) The 4 has more than enough power to move
>> > my '06 briskly in passing mode. I have been consistently getting
>> > 24.6 +- around town with
>> an
>> > occasional 15 mile highway trip to the next town. People, you
>> > don't need
>> a
>> > V6!!!!! Stop wasting gas! Sure you can afford to buy it but
>> > why?????
>>
>> Many of us test drove 4 cylinders with automatics and found the
>> performance to be less than remarkable. Quite poor, in fact.
>> Therefore, we own six cylinders. I'm glad you like your 4, but
>> please don't suggest that because a 4 is brisk enough for you, that
>> it should satisfy the needs of everyone.
>>
>> --
>>
>> -Mike-
>> mmarlowREM...@alltel.net
>
> Very true indeed Mike! i test drove a few 4 cylinders b4 giving in &
> going for what I felt was "adequate" power and picking up the V6.
> Yeah in response to the OP I feel an average of 17 is pretty good. I
> have a mix of highway(30%) & city driving & get an average of 17. I
> once did get 32 on the highway only driving through Virginia ( not
> faster than 55mph)

You guys must be pretty hard on the pedal. I tend to "open 'er up" a
bit nowadays too, but I am still getting about 22 MPG with 19,000 on the
odometer. Although with the cold here the last week, I only managed
about 19.5 MPG on my last tank.

Eric

Tom

I got that yearning for power out of my system years ago with my Porsches,
390 Cougar GT's and 69 427 vette! Sold them for a song when gas prices went
up and the wife bitched about repair costs. Now I see them on Barrett
Jackson and just cry!!! ) There really is very little difference between
the 4 and 6, like Matt said. I guess you need that extra torque to pull all
that extra stuff you bought to feel good. ) For me, with the drives on
the roads today, I don't care to stay out there any longer than I have
to.......

Tom


"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>> Then you need a Corvette or a Viper. Even a V-6 Sonata doesn't
>> accelerate even close to fast.
>
> I had a Mitsubishi 3000 for a while. Life is full of compromises and it
> was not a practical every day driver. Right now, the Sonata is as fast as
> I'm going to get.
>