mike3

On Jul 30, 3:02 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:26:38 -0700, mike3 wrote:
> > On Jul 29, 4:24 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...@e86.GTS> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:11:28 -0700, mike3 wrote:
> >> > Hi.
>
> >> > I finally managed to acquire a clear recording of that mystery noise
> >> > that I told you about in a couple threads I had here a little bit ago.
> >> > The previous recordings, if you remember, were much too muddy to
> >> > clearly make out the noise and it was too hard to point it out over
> >> > the internet. But now I managed to get a very clear recording of the
> >> > sound.
>
> >> > For those who don't know and/or are seeing this for the first time,
> >> > the car is a Hyundai Accent GS from 2001. The noise is made when the
> >> > car is moving and also sometimes when it is stopped. When it is
> >> > stopped, sometimes it happens when shifting gears.
>
> >> > The sound I recorded here was emitted while the car was stopped. I was
> >> > able to stick the recorder underneath it for maximum clarity. Because
> >> > it happened when it was stopped, I KNOW this is not a hubcap problem
> >> > like someone here suggested. We were shifting gears to see if that
> >> > would try to get it to happen. It seemed like it might have been
> >> > correlating with the gear-shifting, but I'm not entirely sure. There
> >> > was a foot on the brake when this was being done. There was also a
> >> > final click made when the car was shut off, though I didn't get that
> >> > in the recordings. Even though this sound was recorded while the car
> >> > was stopped, it is also made when the car is moving, it's just that I
> >> > can't get a recording during that time now (don't yet have a mike I
> >> > want to strap under the car when it is running.). I figured getting
> >> > the noise when idling would be better since it is much clearer as
> >> > there are far less interfering noises from other things.
>
> >> > Three files are provided here. The first one is an unedited clip with
> >> > the sounds spaced in the intervals in which they appear. The sound is
> >> > like sharp metallic clicks. You can hear it at positions 0.8 sec, 4.2
> >> > sec, and 16.6 sec. The first time it makes 1 click, the second it
> >> > makes 2, the third it makes 3. When the car is being driven (where I
> >> > got the muddy recording I was "discussing" in the previous two threads
> >> > that you couldn't hear the noise well at all on), the same clicking
> >> > sound is produced, at a bit more rapid frequency but in longer
> >> > segments than just 1-3 clicks, enough to fill maybe a second or more
> >> > of time. The second file is just the sections with the clicks, played
> >> > in even succession, to better isolate it. The third is a *simulation*
> >> > made using the recorded clicks by splicing them together at a faster
> >> > rate with an audio editor to get an idea of what the sound is like on
> >> > the road if the road noise, etc. wasn't there to mess it up and you
> >> > could get close to the source.
>
> >> > File 1:
> >> >http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yujnwommmty
>
> >> > File 2:
> >> >http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ujzjqufdjdy
>
> >> > File 3:
> >> >http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?g3yzztqdeur
>
> >> > What do you think?
>
> >> Trying to listen to your car, but some idiot keeps spewing something about
> >> red wine.
>
> > Are you too having trouble downloading it from the site? (Did you
> > saving
> > it to disk?) If so, could you suggest me a better file host for it?
> > And if it's
> > an ad you're getting, does it glitch and get caught in a loop? I don't
> > know,
> > I'm just asking, as it's aggravating: My first recording was crappy,
> > and now I
> > finally got a good one and nobody can download it!!! Argh!
>
> Relax, Max! I was tongue in cheek! There was a pop-up ad running in the
> background!
>

Yeah, i thought so. Did you do a "save as" on the file?

> Unfortunately I can't tell what the noise is; someone mentioned a
> solenoid, but can you give more detail, ie, where on the car/engine is it
> coming from; it's doing it at idle, is it worse at speed/under loads?

Sometimes it does it at idling. This particular recording was taken
when it was idling, which I thought would be the best time as then
there's
no wind and I could also get out and stick a recorder underneath the
car
(of course this was done on a home driveway and not on a road with
other people driving on it) allowing for a crisp and sharp recording.
I
was trying gear shifting to see if that would provoke it, and it
seemed to
be happening then but I'm not sure how well it correlated with that
gear
shifting as on most shifts the sound didn't appear. I'm not sure
exactly
where it is coming from.

Other times it will happen on the road, with more clicks at a somewhat
more
rapid pace -- the third clip is a simulation made with the sound from
the other
clips to approximate it, as I'm not sure how I could get a good
recording
on the road with the wind and all that. I've thought of strapping a
recorder
or a mike to the underside of the car. Might give this a try and see
what
happens, if I can get a battery powered recorder to which a mike can
be
attached.

jim

mike3 wrote:

> Sometimes it does it at idling. This particular recording was taken
> when it was idling, which I thought would be the best time as then
> there's
> no wind and I could also get out and stick a recorder underneath the
> car
> (of course this was done on a home driveway and not on a road with
> other people driving on it) allowing for a crisp and sharp recording.

You know you could put your head down near the ground and use your ears
to determine where the noise is coming from. For all we know this could
be a squirrel in the trunk that makes a noise now and again.

jim



> I
> was trying gear shifting to see if that would provoke it, and it
> seemed to
> be happening then but I'm not sure how well it correlated with that
> gear
> shifting as on most shifts the sound didn't appear. I'm not sure
> exactly
> where it is coming from.







>
> Other times it will happen on the road, with more clicks at a somewhat
> more
> rapid pace -- the third clip is a simulation made with the sound from
> the other
> clips to approximate it, as I'm not sure how I could get a good
> recording
> on the road with the wind and all that. I've thought of strapping a
> recorder
> or a mike to the underside of the car. Might give this a try and see
> what
> happens, if I can get a battery powered recorder to which a mike can
> be
> attached.

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On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:15:56 -0500, jim wrote:

>
>
> mike3 wrote:
>
>> Sometimes it does it at idling. This particular recording was taken
>> when it was idling, which I thought would be the best time as then
>> there's
>> no wind and I could also get out and stick a recorder underneath the
>> car
>> (of course this was done on a home driveway and not on a road with
>> other people driving on it) allowing for a crisp and sharp recording.
>
> You know you could put your head down near the ground and use your ears
> to determine where the noise is coming from. For all we know this could
> be a squirrel in the trunk that makes a noise now and again.
>
> jim


I think it might be this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8avOiTUcD4Y


>
>
>
>> I
>> was trying gear shifting to see if that would provoke it, and it
>> seemed to
>> be happening then but I'm not sure how well it correlated with that
>> gear
>> shifting as on most shifts the sound didn't appear. I'm not sure
>> exactly
>> where it is coming from.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Other times it will happen on the road, with more clicks at a somewhat
>> more
>> rapid pace -- the third clip is a simulation made with the sound from
>> the other
>> clips to approximate it, as I'm not sure how I could get a good
>> recording
>> on the road with the wind and all that. I've thought of strapping a
>> recorder
>> or a mike to the underside of the car. Might give this a try and see
>> what
>> happens, if I can get a battery powered recorder to which a mike can
>> be
>> attached.

mike3

On Jul 30, 3:49 am, "Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote:
> "mike3" <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > I can hear it, but I don't have a clue as to what it is. Sounds like a
> > > solenoid pulling in and letting go, but I don't know what would make
> > > that
> > > kind of noise. AC clutch? A valve opening and closing?
>
> > There is no AC on the car.
>
> How could I determine if it was one of the other items on your list?
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> You have to listen to each component. I'm not familiar with what equipment
> is on that engine, but some other cars had air pumps for pollution control
> and the valves can get noisy. If we were playing "Guess the Sound"at a
> party, I'd say it was the solenoid on the dishwasher drain valve.
>

I.e. it's really that much of a stumper. But thank you for trying to
help.

> Time to visit a mechanic.