synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:29:32 GMT, Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net>
wrote:
>The article he's referring to is from 2000. It's in a motorcycle
>magazine, which alone is enough to cast doubts about how relevent it is
>to an automobile discussion.
Well, I suppose the processes are so standardized that data from 2000 is
100% relevant. But I agree that MC's and cars are apples and oranges.
--
Bob
wrote:
>The article he's referring to is from 2000. It's in a motorcycle
>magazine, which alone is enough to cast doubts about how relevent it is
>to an automobile discussion.
Well, I suppose the processes are so standardized that data from 2000 is
100% relevant. But I agree that MC's and cars are apples and oranges.
--
Bob
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:21:05 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>I quoted the fact. That fact is that all oils aren't created equal and
>some are better than others.
You are right! I think everyone agrees with you on that.
But Matt, it's a matter of DEGREE. Some of us believe the differences in
modern premium oil are so miniscule that it's insignificant. Apparently you
believe there are large enough differences within groups of similarly rated
oil to cause premature engine wear. Even if that were true, I don't believe
it would lead to the death of the engine. There are many other things that
will happen to it first.
I dropped by friend's house 1 day, and he was struggling with a pallet of
bottled water he had just brought home from Sam's Club. I ask about the
water, and he said he "didn't trust the city water". On top of the pallet of
bottles was several cartons of cigarettes. I told him not to worry, and
guaranteed him the city water would not kill him!
--
Bob
>I quoted the fact. That fact is that all oils aren't created equal and
>some are better than others.
You are right! I think everyone agrees with you on that.
But Matt, it's a matter of DEGREE. Some of us believe the differences in
modern premium oil are so miniscule that it's insignificant. Apparently you
believe there are large enough differences within groups of similarly rated
oil to cause premature engine wear. Even if that were true, I don't believe
it would lead to the death of the engine. There are many other things that
will happen to it first.
I dropped by friend's house 1 day, and he was struggling with a pallet of
bottled water he had just brought home from Sam's Club. I ask about the
water, and he said he "didn't trust the city water". On top of the pallet of
bottles was several cartons of cigarettes. I told him not to worry, and
guaranteed him the city water would not kill him!
--
Bob
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:21:05 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>I quoted the fact. That fact is that all oils aren't created equal and
>some are better than others.
You are right! I think everyone agrees with you on that.
But Matt, it's a matter of DEGREE. Some of us believe the differences in
modern premium oil are so miniscule that it's insignificant. Apparently you
believe there are large enough differences within groups of similarly rated
oil to cause premature engine wear. Even if that were true, I don't believe
it would lead to the death of the engine. There are many other things that
will happen to it first.
I dropped by friend's house 1 day, and he was struggling with a pallet of
bottled water he had just brought home from Sam's Club. I ask about the
water, and he said he "didn't trust the city water". On top of the pallet of
bottles was several cartons of cigarettes. I told him not to worry, and
guaranteed him the city water would not kill him!
--
Bob
>I quoted the fact. That fact is that all oils aren't created equal and
>some are better than others.
You are right! I think everyone agrees with you on that.
But Matt, it's a matter of DEGREE. Some of us believe the differences in
modern premium oil are so miniscule that it's insignificant. Apparently you
believe there are large enough differences within groups of similarly rated
oil to cause premature engine wear. Even if that were true, I don't believe
it would lead to the death of the engine. There are many other things that
will happen to it first.
I dropped by friend's house 1 day, and he was struggling with a pallet of
bottled water he had just brought home from Sam's Club. I ask about the
water, and he said he "didn't trust the city water". On top of the pallet of
bottles was several cartons of cigarettes. I told him not to worry, and
guaranteed him the city water would not kill him!
--
Bob
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:21:05 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>I quoted the fact. That fact is that all oils aren't created equal and
>some are better than others.
You are right! I think everyone agrees with you on that.
But Matt, it's a matter of DEGREE. Some of us believe the differences in
modern premium oil are so miniscule that it's insignificant. Apparently you
believe there are large enough differences within groups of similarly rated
oil to cause premature engine wear. Even if that were true, I don't believe
it would lead to the death of the engine. There are many other things that
will happen to it first.
I dropped by friend's house 1 day, and he was struggling with a pallet of
bottled water he had just brought home from Sam's Club. I ask about the
water, and he said he "didn't trust the city water". On top of the pallet of
bottles was several cartons of cigarettes. I told him not to worry, and
guaranteed him the city water would not kill him!
--
Bob
>I quoted the fact. That fact is that all oils aren't created equal and
>some are better than others.
You are right! I think everyone agrees with you on that.
But Matt, it's a matter of DEGREE. Some of us believe the differences in
modern premium oil are so miniscule that it's insignificant. Apparently you
believe there are large enough differences within groups of similarly rated
oil to cause premature engine wear. Even if that were true, I don't believe
it would lead to the death of the engine. There are many other things that
will happen to it first.
I dropped by friend's house 1 day, and he was struggling with a pallet of
bottled water he had just brought home from Sam's Club. I ask about the
water, and he said he "didn't trust the city water". On top of the pallet of
bottles was several cartons of cigarettes. I told him not to worry, and
guaranteed him the city water would not kill him!
--
Bob
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:29:32 GMT, Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>>The article he's referring to is from 2000. It's in a motorcycle
>>magazine, which alone is enough to cast doubts about how relevent it is
>>to an automobile discussion.
>
>
> Well, I suppose the processes are so standardized that data from 2000 is
> 100% relevant. But I agree that MC's and cars are apples and oranges.
These were laboratory tests of a half dozen or so oil properties of oils
both sold as being for motorcycles specifically and standard auto oils.
They weren't tests in engines so the fact that the tests were
commissioned at an independent laboratory by a motorcycle magazine isn't
relevant.
Matt
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:29:32 GMT, Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>>The article he's referring to is from 2000. It's in a motorcycle
>>magazine, which alone is enough to cast doubts about how relevent it is
>>to an automobile discussion.
>
>
> Well, I suppose the processes are so standardized that data from 2000 is
> 100% relevant. But I agree that MC's and cars are apples and oranges.
These were laboratory tests of a half dozen or so oil properties of oils
both sold as being for motorcycles specifically and standard auto oils.
They weren't tests in engines so the fact that the tests were
commissioned at an independent laboratory by a motorcycle magazine isn't
relevant.
Matt
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:29:32 GMT, Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>>The article he's referring to is from 2000. It's in a motorcycle
>>magazine, which alone is enough to cast doubts about how relevent it is
>>to an automobile discussion.
>
>
> Well, I suppose the processes are so standardized that data from 2000 is
> 100% relevant. But I agree that MC's and cars are apples and oranges.
These were laboratory tests of a half dozen or so oil properties of oils
both sold as being for motorcycles specifically and standard auto oils.
They weren't tests in engines so the fact that the tests were
commissioned at an independent laboratory by a motorcycle magazine isn't
relevant.
Matt
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:29:32 GMT, Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>>The article he's referring to is from 2000. It's in a motorcycle
>>magazine, which alone is enough to cast doubts about how relevent it is
>>to an automobile discussion.
>
>
> Well, I suppose the processes are so standardized that data from 2000 is
> 100% relevant. But I agree that MC's and cars are apples and oranges.
These were laboratory tests of a half dozen or so oil properties of oils
both sold as being for motorcycles specifically and standard auto oils.
They weren't tests in engines so the fact that the tests were
commissioned at an independent laboratory by a motorcycle magazine isn't
relevant.
Matt
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:29:32 GMT, Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>>The article he's referring to is from 2000. It's in a motorcycle
>>magazine, which alone is enough to cast doubts about how relevent it is
>>to an automobile discussion.
>
>
> Well, I suppose the processes are so standardized that data from 2000 is
> 100% relevant. But I agree that MC's and cars are apples and oranges.
These were laboratory tests of a half dozen or so oil properties of oils
both sold as being for motorcycles specifically and standard auto oils.
They weren't tests in engines so the fact that the tests were
commissioned at an independent laboratory by a motorcycle magazine isn't
relevant.
Matt
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:29:32 GMT, Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>>The article he's referring to is from 2000. It's in a motorcycle
>>magazine, which alone is enough to cast doubts about how relevent it is
>>to an automobile discussion.
>
>
> Well, I suppose the processes are so standardized that data from 2000 is
> 100% relevant. But I agree that MC's and cars are apples and oranges.
These were laboratory tests of a half dozen or so oil properties of oils
both sold as being for motorcycles specifically and standard auto oils.
They weren't tests in engines so the fact that the tests were
commissioned at an independent laboratory by a motorcycle magazine isn't
relevant.
Matt
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
[original post is likely clipped to save bandwidth]
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:21:05 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>gerry wrote:
>>
>>>>http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html
>>>>
>>>>"The 1961 Report of the Register of Copyrights on the General Revision of
>>>>the U.S. Copyright Law cites examples of activities that courts have
>>>>regarded as fair use: “quotation of excerpts in a review or criticism for
>>>>purposes of illustration or comment; quotation of short passages in a
>>>>scholarly or technical work, for illustration or clarification of the
>>>>author's observations;...."
>>>
>>>If I had the original article, I'd have to quote a substantial portion
>>>of it to convince you or Brian. That would hardly constitute a "short
>>>passage."
>>
>>
>>
>> Nice try, I knew you wouldn't read the official copyright office page.
>>
>> at the government source
>>
>> "Copyright protects the particular way an author has expressed himself; it
>> does not extend to any ideas, systems, or factual information conveyed in
>> the work."
>>
>> You may quote ANY fact, no matter how long.
>
>I quoted the fact. That fact is that all oils aren't created equal and
>some are better than others.
I never claimed all oils are the same. I didn't even enter this thread
until you fabricated copyright law as an excuse you couldn't provide data!
If you expressed opinion based upon prior readings or other sources, no
one could argue. Anybody can have any opinion.
I do have the opinion that synthetic's benefits are often over stated
versus high quality modern conventional oil. "Overstated" does not mean
they are not superior in some applications!
I have owned vehicles since 1966 and never used synthetic. I never had an
oil related engine failure and probably have an average of 140,000 miles
per car before replacement. I always used brand name oil of the highest
rating available at the time.
Perhaps it is the brand motor vehicle I preferred or perhaps it was proper
care. Since any oil is vulnerable to contaminants and additive
deterioration, every oil needs to be changed.
Thus I am left with no data to suggest why I should not just meet or
exceed the published specifications for my 2006 Sonata V6.
gerry
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On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:21:05 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>gerry wrote:
>>
>>>>http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html
>>>>
>>>>"The 1961 Report of the Register of Copyrights on the General Revision of
>>>>the U.S. Copyright Law cites examples of activities that courts have
>>>>regarded as fair use: “quotation of excerpts in a review or criticism for
>>>>purposes of illustration or comment; quotation of short passages in a
>>>>scholarly or technical work, for illustration or clarification of the
>>>>author's observations;...."
>>>
>>>If I had the original article, I'd have to quote a substantial portion
>>>of it to convince you or Brian. That would hardly constitute a "short
>>>passage."
>>
>>
>>
>> Nice try, I knew you wouldn't read the official copyright office page.
>>
>> at the government source
>>
>> "Copyright protects the particular way an author has expressed himself; it
>> does not extend to any ideas, systems, or factual information conveyed in
>> the work."
>>
>> You may quote ANY fact, no matter how long.
>
>I quoted the fact. That fact is that all oils aren't created equal and
>some are better than others.
I never claimed all oils are the same. I didn't even enter this thread
until you fabricated copyright law as an excuse you couldn't provide data!
If you expressed opinion based upon prior readings or other sources, no
one could argue. Anybody can have any opinion.
I do have the opinion that synthetic's benefits are often over stated
versus high quality modern conventional oil. "Overstated" does not mean
they are not superior in some applications!
I have owned vehicles since 1966 and never used synthetic. I never had an
oil related engine failure and probably have an average of 140,000 miles
per car before replacement. I always used brand name oil of the highest
rating available at the time.
Perhaps it is the brand motor vehicle I preferred or perhaps it was proper
care. Since any oil is vulnerable to contaminants and additive
deterioration, every oil needs to be changed.
Thus I am left with no data to suggest why I should not just meet or
exceed the published specifications for my 2006 Sonata V6.
gerry
--
Personal home page - http://gogood.com
gerry misspelled in my email address to confuse robots
#219
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
[original post is likely clipped to save bandwidth]
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:21:05 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>gerry wrote:
>>
>>>>http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html
>>>>
>>>>"The 1961 Report of the Register of Copyrights on the General Revision of
>>>>the U.S. Copyright Law cites examples of activities that courts have
>>>>regarded as fair use: “quotation of excerpts in a review or criticism for
>>>>purposes of illustration or comment; quotation of short passages in a
>>>>scholarly or technical work, for illustration or clarification of the
>>>>author's observations;...."
>>>
>>>If I had the original article, I'd have to quote a substantial portion
>>>of it to convince you or Brian. That would hardly constitute a "short
>>>passage."
>>
>>
>>
>> Nice try, I knew you wouldn't read the official copyright office page.
>>
>> at the government source
>>
>> "Copyright protects the particular way an author has expressed himself; it
>> does not extend to any ideas, systems, or factual information conveyed in
>> the work."
>>
>> You may quote ANY fact, no matter how long.
>
>I quoted the fact. That fact is that all oils aren't created equal and
>some are better than others.
I never claimed all oils are the same. I didn't even enter this thread
until you fabricated copyright law as an excuse you couldn't provide data!
If you expressed opinion based upon prior readings or other sources, no
one could argue. Anybody can have any opinion.
I do have the opinion that synthetic's benefits are often over stated
versus high quality modern conventional oil. "Overstated" does not mean
they are not superior in some applications!
I have owned vehicles since 1966 and never used synthetic. I never had an
oil related engine failure and probably have an average of 140,000 miles
per car before replacement. I always used brand name oil of the highest
rating available at the time.
Perhaps it is the brand motor vehicle I preferred or perhaps it was proper
care. Since any oil is vulnerable to contaminants and additive
deterioration, every oil needs to be changed.
Thus I am left with no data to suggest why I should not just meet or
exceed the published specifications for my 2006 Sonata V6.
gerry
--
Personal home page - http://gogood.com
gerry misspelled in my email address to confuse robots
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:21:05 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>gerry wrote:
>>
>>>>http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html
>>>>
>>>>"The 1961 Report of the Register of Copyrights on the General Revision of
>>>>the U.S. Copyright Law cites examples of activities that courts have
>>>>regarded as fair use: “quotation of excerpts in a review or criticism for
>>>>purposes of illustration or comment; quotation of short passages in a
>>>>scholarly or technical work, for illustration or clarification of the
>>>>author's observations;...."
>>>
>>>If I had the original article, I'd have to quote a substantial portion
>>>of it to convince you or Brian. That would hardly constitute a "short
>>>passage."
>>
>>
>>
>> Nice try, I knew you wouldn't read the official copyright office page.
>>
>> at the government source
>>
>> "Copyright protects the particular way an author has expressed himself; it
>> does not extend to any ideas, systems, or factual information conveyed in
>> the work."
>>
>> You may quote ANY fact, no matter how long.
>
>I quoted the fact. That fact is that all oils aren't created equal and
>some are better than others.
I never claimed all oils are the same. I didn't even enter this thread
until you fabricated copyright law as an excuse you couldn't provide data!
If you expressed opinion based upon prior readings or other sources, no
one could argue. Anybody can have any opinion.
I do have the opinion that synthetic's benefits are often over stated
versus high quality modern conventional oil. "Overstated" does not mean
they are not superior in some applications!
I have owned vehicles since 1966 and never used synthetic. I never had an
oil related engine failure and probably have an average of 140,000 miles
per car before replacement. I always used brand name oil of the highest
rating available at the time.
Perhaps it is the brand motor vehicle I preferred or perhaps it was proper
care. Since any oil is vulnerable to contaminants and additive
deterioration, every oil needs to be changed.
Thus I am left with no data to suggest why I should not just meet or
exceed the published specifications for my 2006 Sonata V6.
gerry
--
Personal home page - http://gogood.com
gerry misspelled in my email address to confuse robots
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
[original post is likely clipped to save bandwidth]
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:21:05 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>gerry wrote:
>>
>>>>http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html
>>>>
>>>>"The 1961 Report of the Register of Copyrights on the General Revision of
>>>>the U.S. Copyright Law cites examples of activities that courts have
>>>>regarded as fair use: “quotation of excerpts in a review or criticism for
>>>>purposes of illustration or comment; quotation of short passages in a
>>>>scholarly or technical work, for illustration or clarification of the
>>>>author's observations;...."
>>>
>>>If I had the original article, I'd have to quote a substantial portion
>>>of it to convince you or Brian. That would hardly constitute a "short
>>>passage."
>>
>>
>>
>> Nice try, I knew you wouldn't read the official copyright office page.
>>
>> at the government source
>>
>> "Copyright protects the particular way an author has expressed himself; it
>> does not extend to any ideas, systems, or factual information conveyed in
>> the work."
>>
>> You may quote ANY fact, no matter how long.
>
>I quoted the fact. That fact is that all oils aren't created equal and
>some are better than others.
I never claimed all oils are the same. I didn't even enter this thread
until you fabricated copyright law as an excuse you couldn't provide data!
If you expressed opinion based upon prior readings or other sources, no
one could argue. Anybody can have any opinion.
I do have the opinion that synthetic's benefits are often over stated
versus high quality modern conventional oil. "Overstated" does not mean
they are not superior in some applications!
I have owned vehicles since 1966 and never used synthetic. I never had an
oil related engine failure and probably have an average of 140,000 miles
per car before replacement. I always used brand name oil of the highest
rating available at the time.
Perhaps it is the brand motor vehicle I preferred or perhaps it was proper
care. Since any oil is vulnerable to contaminants and additive
deterioration, every oil needs to be changed.
Thus I am left with no data to suggest why I should not just meet or
exceed the published specifications for my 2006 Sonata V6.
gerry
--
Personal home page - http://gogood.com
gerry misspelled in my email address to confuse robots
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:21:05 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>gerry wrote:
>>
>>>>http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html
>>>>
>>>>"The 1961 Report of the Register of Copyrights on the General Revision of
>>>>the U.S. Copyright Law cites examples of activities that courts have
>>>>regarded as fair use: “quotation of excerpts in a review or criticism for
>>>>purposes of illustration or comment; quotation of short passages in a
>>>>scholarly or technical work, for illustration or clarification of the
>>>>author's observations;...."
>>>
>>>If I had the original article, I'd have to quote a substantial portion
>>>of it to convince you or Brian. That would hardly constitute a "short
>>>passage."
>>
>>
>>
>> Nice try, I knew you wouldn't read the official copyright office page.
>>
>> at the government source
>>
>> "Copyright protects the particular way an author has expressed himself; it
>> does not extend to any ideas, systems, or factual information conveyed in
>> the work."
>>
>> You may quote ANY fact, no matter how long.
>
>I quoted the fact. That fact is that all oils aren't created equal and
>some are better than others.
I never claimed all oils are the same. I didn't even enter this thread
until you fabricated copyright law as an excuse you couldn't provide data!
If you expressed opinion based upon prior readings or other sources, no
one could argue. Anybody can have any opinion.
I do have the opinion that synthetic's benefits are often over stated
versus high quality modern conventional oil. "Overstated" does not mean
they are not superior in some applications!
I have owned vehicles since 1966 and never used synthetic. I never had an
oil related engine failure and probably have an average of 140,000 miles
per car before replacement. I always used brand name oil of the highest
rating available at the time.
Perhaps it is the brand motor vehicle I preferred or perhaps it was proper
care. Since any oil is vulnerable to contaminants and additive
deterioration, every oil needs to be changed.
Thus I am left with no data to suggest why I should not just meet or
exceed the published specifications for my 2006 Sonata V6.
gerry
--
Personal home page - http://gogood.com
gerry misspelled in my email address to confuse robots
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:42:11 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>These were laboratory tests of a half dozen or so oil properties of oils
>both sold as being for motorcycles specifically and standard auto oils.
> They weren't tests in engines so the fact that the tests were
>commissioned at an independent laboratory by a motorcycle magazine isn't
>relevant.
Agreed.
Again, we get back to degrees. How bad were the bad ones, and how were the
tests quantified?
--
Bob
>These were laboratory tests of a half dozen or so oil properties of oils
>both sold as being for motorcycles specifically and standard auto oils.
> They weren't tests in engines so the fact that the tests were
>commissioned at an independent laboratory by a motorcycle magazine isn't
>relevant.
Agreed.
Again, we get back to degrees. How bad were the bad ones, and how were the
tests quantified?
--
Bob
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:42:11 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>These were laboratory tests of a half dozen or so oil properties of oils
>both sold as being for motorcycles specifically and standard auto oils.
> They weren't tests in engines so the fact that the tests were
>commissioned at an independent laboratory by a motorcycle magazine isn't
>relevant.
Agreed.
Again, we get back to degrees. How bad were the bad ones, and how were the
tests quantified?
--
Bob
>These were laboratory tests of a half dozen or so oil properties of oils
>both sold as being for motorcycles specifically and standard auto oils.
> They weren't tests in engines so the fact that the tests were
>commissioned at an independent laboratory by a motorcycle magazine isn't
>relevant.
Agreed.
Again, we get back to degrees. How bad were the bad ones, and how were the
tests quantified?
--
Bob
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:42:11 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>These were laboratory tests of a half dozen or so oil properties of oils
>both sold as being for motorcycles specifically and standard auto oils.
> They weren't tests in engines so the fact that the tests were
>commissioned at an independent laboratory by a motorcycle magazine isn't
>relevant.
Agreed.
Again, we get back to degrees. How bad were the bad ones, and how were the
tests quantified?
--
Bob
>These were laboratory tests of a half dozen or so oil properties of oils
>both sold as being for motorcycles specifically and standard auto oils.
> They weren't tests in engines so the fact that the tests were
>commissioned at an independent laboratory by a motorcycle magazine isn't
>relevant.
Agreed.
Again, we get back to degrees. How bad were the bad ones, and how were the
tests quantified?
--
Bob
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:42:11 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>These were laboratory tests of a half dozen or so oil properties of oils
>>both sold as being for motorcycles specifically and standard auto oils.
>> They weren't tests in engines so the fact that the tests were
>>commissioned at an independent laboratory by a motorcycle magazine isn't
>>relevant.
>
>
> Agreed.
>
> Again, we get back to degrees. How bad were the bad ones, and how were the
> tests quantified?
It has been 5+ years since I read the articles. I don't remember the
specific details and I don't think I even have the mags anymore. Since
nobody here cares enough about the data to obtain it, I've got nothing
more to say on the subject.
Actually, I hope that the folks here don't buy premium oils such as
Mobil 1, Castrol products, and similar. They cost too much now and if
the demand gets any higher the price will only increase and cost me more
money! It is bad enough that makers of cars such as the Corvette, a
model or two of Porsche, etc., ship Mobil 1 from the factory and pretty
much require its use.
Then again, Hyundais are cheap cars so it seems fitting to use cheap
oils, oil filters, tires, etc., on them.
Matt
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:42:11 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>These were laboratory tests of a half dozen or so oil properties of oils
>>both sold as being for motorcycles specifically and standard auto oils.
>> They weren't tests in engines so the fact that the tests were
>>commissioned at an independent laboratory by a motorcycle magazine isn't
>>relevant.
>
>
> Agreed.
>
> Again, we get back to degrees. How bad were the bad ones, and how were the
> tests quantified?
It has been 5+ years since I read the articles. I don't remember the
specific details and I don't think I even have the mags anymore. Since
nobody here cares enough about the data to obtain it, I've got nothing
more to say on the subject.
Actually, I hope that the folks here don't buy premium oils such as
Mobil 1, Castrol products, and similar. They cost too much now and if
the demand gets any higher the price will only increase and cost me more
money! It is bad enough that makers of cars such as the Corvette, a
model or two of Porsche, etc., ship Mobil 1 from the factory and pretty
much require its use.
Then again, Hyundais are cheap cars so it seems fitting to use cheap
oils, oil filters, tires, etc., on them.
Matt
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:42:11 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>These were laboratory tests of a half dozen or so oil properties of oils
>>both sold as being for motorcycles specifically and standard auto oils.
>> They weren't tests in engines so the fact that the tests were
>>commissioned at an independent laboratory by a motorcycle magazine isn't
>>relevant.
>
>
> Agreed.
>
> Again, we get back to degrees. How bad were the bad ones, and how were the
> tests quantified?
It has been 5+ years since I read the articles. I don't remember the
specific details and I don't think I even have the mags anymore. Since
nobody here cares enough about the data to obtain it, I've got nothing
more to say on the subject.
Actually, I hope that the folks here don't buy premium oils such as
Mobil 1, Castrol products, and similar. They cost too much now and if
the demand gets any higher the price will only increase and cost me more
money! It is bad enough that makers of cars such as the Corvette, a
model or two of Porsche, etc., ship Mobil 1 from the factory and pretty
much require its use.
Then again, Hyundais are cheap cars so it seems fitting to use cheap
oils, oil filters, tires, etc., on them.
Matt
> On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:42:11 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>These were laboratory tests of a half dozen or so oil properties of oils
>>both sold as being for motorcycles specifically and standard auto oils.
>> They weren't tests in engines so the fact that the tests were
>>commissioned at an independent laboratory by a motorcycle magazine isn't
>>relevant.
>
>
> Agreed.
>
> Again, we get back to degrees. How bad were the bad ones, and how were the
> tests quantified?
It has been 5+ years since I read the articles. I don't remember the
specific details and I don't think I even have the mags anymore. Since
nobody here cares enough about the data to obtain it, I've got nothing
more to say on the subject.
Actually, I hope that the folks here don't buy premium oils such as
Mobil 1, Castrol products, and similar. They cost too much now and if
the demand gets any higher the price will only increase and cost me more
money! It is bad enough that makers of cars such as the Corvette, a
model or two of Porsche, etc., ship Mobil 1 from the factory and pretty
much require its use.
Then again, Hyundais are cheap cars so it seems fitting to use cheap
oils, oil filters, tires, etc., on them.
Matt