Rev. Tom Wenndt

Good post, Mr. HyundaiTech (as usual). I have a LOT of older men in my area
here who swear by this stuff. But I have tried it (at their behest), and
was unimpressed by it.

One of the things it seems to work well for, though, is as a substitute for
"fuel stabilizer." But if the stuff is just as cheap (and I can indeed get
it just as cheap) why use it.

I will say, though, that one thing I can say for relative certain is that it
won't do a car any harm (unlike many other products). And for some, it may
indeed help.


"hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
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> After a few google hits, I'm convinced this is daveinlakevilla. In that
> case, I'm convinced this isn't a shill or an ad, but I'm still quite
> skeptical of the results (especially considering the strange fact
> thatthis
> product was added to the intake, oil, *and* gasoline). Must say,
> though, it really does read like ad copy, which is why Edwin made his
> post. In fact, I was on the same page as Edwin prior to my googling.
> And
> I'll be quite surprised if the results continue past the first tank of
> gas, if that long.
>
> Of course, if I'm not right about the identity, you're welcome to correct
> me on the matter, but that'll probably also mean this gets stuck back on
> my "probable shill" list.
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IlBeBauck@gmail.com

On May 19, 4:24 pm, "hyundaitech" <notpub...@not.public.com> wrote:
> After a few google hits, I'm convinced this is daveinlakevilla. In that
> case, I'm convinced this isn't a shill or an ad, but I'm still quite
> skeptical of the results (especially considering the strange fact
> thatthis
> product was added to the intake, oil, *and* gasoline). Must say,
> though, it really does read like ad copy, which is why Edwin made his
> post. In fact, I was on the same page as Edwin prior to my googling.
> And
> I'll be quite surprised if the results continue past the first tank of
> gas, if that long.
>
> Of course, if I'm not right about the identity, you're welcome to correct
> me on the matter, but that'll probably also mean this gets stuck back on
> my "probable shill" list.
>
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REPLY: Yes, it is also me aveinlakevilla. I have a Laptop now and a
new ADDY. This SeaFoam product is very popular amongst Mechanics and
old timers. The Classic Car finatics and RV hobbiests swear by this
product. Sorry if it sounded like an ad, but, I thought my fellow
Hyundai owners might like to know about this product . I dont own
stock in the Product or at Pep Boys and if you dont wish to believe
me or the products acclaim, then, my feelings wont be hurt. Just
giving a heads up based on my personal experience and from others.

IlBeBauck@gmail.com

On May 19, 5:20 pm, Matt Whiting <whit...@epix.net> wrote:
> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> > "Matt Whiting" <whit...@epix.net> wrote in message
> >>> IlBeBa...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> Im very wary of snake oil remedies so i was reluctant to buy a canof
> >>>> SeaFoam from Pep Boys Store ($6.99) when I heard it really works .
>
> >>>> I just want to pass this info along to say that this SeaFoam product
> >>>> has made a very noticable difference . Has anyone else had positive
> >>>> results from using it ? It can be used in 2 cycle engines also. Im
> >>>> sold on this product now.
>
> >>>> Dave
>
> >> I'm with you Clay. There are so many variables in fuel mileage that you
> >> have to check at least 5 full tanks to have any meaningful values to
> >> compare. Good advertising can really make you want to believe that
> >> something helps. Matt
>
> > I'm with neither of you. IMO, the OP was just a slick spammer shilling for
> > someone. Reads too much like ad copy for me to believe.
> > Ed.
>
> Well, I guess I tend to give folks the benefit of the doubt until I see
> compelling evidence otherwise. The OP didn't come across to me as spam,
> just someone who isn't rigorous about checking fuel mileage and had one
> tank better than the last and attributed it completely to the additive
> rather than to normal variation which is the more likely explanation.
>
> Matt- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

REPLY: Incorrect. Since my driving habits are the same in this car, I
constantly accrue 150 miles to a half tank of gasoline. , each and
every time. This tank of gas since adding SeaFoam has yielded 23
above this.

Matt Whiting

IlBeBauck@gmail.com wrote:
> On May 19, 5:20 pm, Matt Whiting <whit...@epix.net> wrote:
>> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>>> "Matt Whiting" <whit...@epix.net> wrote in message
>>>>> IlBeBa...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Im very wary of snake oil remedies so i was reluctant to buy a can of
>>>>>> SeaFoam from Pep Boys Store ($6.99) when I heard it really works .
>>>>>> I just want to pass this info along to say that this SeaFoam product
>>>>>> has made a very noticable difference . Has anyone else had positive
>>>>>> results from using it ? It can be used in 2 cycle engines also. Im
>>>>>> sold on this product now.
>>>>>> Dave
>>>> I'm with you Clay. There are so many variables in fuel mileage that you
>>>> have to check at least 5 full tanks to have any meaningful values to
>>>> compare. Good advertising can really make you want to believe that
>>>> something helps. Matt
>>> I'm with neither of you. IMO, the OP was just a slick spammer shilling for
>>> someone. Reads too much like ad copy for me to believe.
>>> Ed.
>> Well, I guess I tend to give folks the benefit of the doubt until I see
>> compelling evidence otherwise. The OP didn't come across to me as spam,
>> just someone who isn't rigorous about checking fuel mileage and had one
>> tank better than the last and attributed it completely to the additive
>> rather than to normal variation which is the more likely explanation.
>>
>> Matt- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> REPLY: Incorrect. Since my driving habits are the same in this car, I
> constantly accrue 150 miles to a half tank of gasoline. , each and
> every time. This tank of gas since adding SeaFoam has yielded 23
> above this.

Well, that simply isn't possible. Nobody can fill up the tank to the
exact came level each time, not all pumps are exactly calibrated,
changes in weather cause changes in fuel mileage, etc. I keep a
sheet of each fill-up in all of my vehicles and compute the fuel
economy each and every tankful. It isn't unusual at all to see 5-10%
differences over just a few tankfuls and the change from summer to
winter blend is very noticeable.

What you wrote above confirms that you don't know much about statistics
and what it takes to compute fuel mileage in a mathematically rigorous
manner.

Matt

CBX2@webtv.net

I don't know about better gas milage (it's possible) but in the
motorcycling community stale gas from winter storage and carb gumming up
is a real problem.Seafoam is a very good product and well spoken of for
cleaning gmmed up carbs and prolonging gas life.I use synthetic oils in
ALL my bikes Accent and Nissan pickup so I would never need it in the
crank case.I'd say with an older engine or one without proper oil
changes Seafoam could be a help especially with hydraulic lifters.I use
it when it's on sale in the gas as a preventative for carb problems.No
ax to grind either way.I use it belive in it,you do what works for you.

tango

"CBX2" wrote:
>I don’t know about better gas milage (it’s possible) but
>in the
>motorcycling community stale gas from winter storage and carb gumming
>up
>is a real problem.Seafoam is a very good product and well spoken of
>for
>cleaning gmmed up carbs and prolonging gas life.I use synthetic oils
>in
>ALL my bikes Accent and Nissan pickup so I would never need it in
the
>crank case.I’d say with an older engine or one without proper
>oil
>changes Seafoam could be a help especially with hydraulic lifters.I
>use
>it when it’s on sale in the gas as a preventative for carb
>problems.No
>ax to grind either way.I use it belive in it,you do what works for
>you.


I totally agree, I have a motorcycle and I have given a dose of
Seafoam when I put her to sleep in the winter, and believe me it does
wonders and cleans the hell out of the intake, valves and so on.

I have used it on my Santafe 2001 once a year, half a can on half a
tank, and had no problem with the injectors, this reminds me to give
the Santa a dose soon.

If you own a motorcycle, you would understand what Seafoam can do. I
am lucky to get a couple of cans from the States cause here in Quebec
is unknown. What a PITY

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