"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> Tom wrote:
>
>> I don't know how this ended up on the Hyundai site; however, when I'm
>> driving down the interstate at night with no one in front of me, I often
>> have my high beams on in the hope of spotting one of the many deer before
>> he becomes a hood ornament. Nothing irritates me more than when some
>> moron in the other lanes of the divided highway, which is 100 yards or
>> more from my lane, starts flashing his lights. There's no way that it is
>> affecting his ability to see. It is just that he 'knows' I have them on
>> high beam. Just plain stupid! And inconsiderate of my right to drive
>> safely rather than outdrive my lights.
>
> Wow, your divided highways are really divided! Around here, ours are
> probably at most 50 yards from center to center, and many have just a
> concrete divider between the lanes. I find high beams very annoying, even
> with 50 yards separation. 100 might not be too bothersome though. I flash
> people in the other lane of a divided highway if their lights are
> bothering me, which they usually do on high beam. We have lots of deer
> here in northern PA as well, which is why I don't want to have my night
> vision temporarily reduced by someone in the opposing lane with their high
> beams on. That more than offsets what I gain by having my own high beams
> on. I'd rather have my low beams with full night accomodation of my eyes,
> then high beams with temporary blindness from opposing high beams.
>
>
> Matt
The highway I frequent has some wide medians though not 100 yrds wide. I
use my HB's as much as possible, but always dim them for oncoming cars. Boy,
it bugs me when they don't. I try to protect my night vision, and oncoming
highs seem to burn a lingering whole in my night sight. Also, it is
irritable when following cars dim only when very close, so close they are
already benefitting from driving in the wake of my headlamps. I suppose eyes
are different. Just ask yourself how you find it when others leave 'em up in
your face. PS Obviously sweeping turns make a difference-in one direction
traffic shining its lights into oncoming traffic but the other direction's
lights shine out and away from the turn, and it my not be necessary to dim.
ymmv

 

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:ukpbg.8898$lb.806638@news1.epix.net...
> Tom wrote:
>
>> I don't know how this ended up on the Hyundai site; however, when I'm
>> driving down the interstate at night with no one in front of me, I often
>> have my high beams on in the hope of spotting one of the many deer before
>> he becomes a hood ornament. Nothing irritates me more than when some
>> moron in the other lanes of the divided highway, which is 100 yards or
>> more from my lane, starts flashing his lights. There's no way that it is
>> affecting his ability to see. It is just that he 'knows' I have them on
>> high beam. Just plain stupid! And inconsiderate of my right to drive
>> safely rather than outdrive my lights.
>
> Wow, your divided highways are really divided! Around here, ours are
> probably at most 50 yards from center to center, and many have just a
> concrete divider between the lanes. I find high beams very annoying, even
> with 50 yards separation. 100 might not be too bothersome though. I flash
> people in the other lane of a divided highway if their lights are
> bothering me, which they usually do on high beam. We have lots of deer
> here in northern PA as well, which is why I don't want to have my night
> vision temporarily reduced by someone in the opposing lane with their high
> beams on. That more than offsets what I gain by having my own high beams
> on. I'd rather have my low beams with full night accomodation of my eyes,
> then high beams with temporary blindness from opposing high beams.
>
>
> Matt
The highway I frequent has some wide medians though not 100 yrds wide. I
use my HB's as much as possible, but always dim them for oncoming cars. Boy,
it bugs me when they don't. I try to protect my night vision, and oncoming
highs seem to burn a lingering whole in my night sight. Also, it is
irritable when following cars dim only when very close, so close they are
already benefitting from driving in the wake of my headlamps. I suppose eyes
are different. Just ask yourself how you find it when others leave 'em up in
your face. PS Obviously sweeping turns make a difference-in one direction
traffic shining its lights into oncoming traffic but the other direction's
lights shine out and away from the turn, and it my not be necessary to dim.
ymmv

 

The only thing I can say in reply is that 40 years ago I was taught to NOT
look at the oncoming lights, but instead focus to the side of the road.
That way the lights will not bother you or your night vision. Try that
little trick. I live in NE Georgia where I85 has many sections that far
apart. My night vision is still good. I'm not THAT old. Oh, I'm from NE
Pa also by birth.

"Darby OGill" <bark@woof.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:ukpbg.8898$lb.806638@news1.epix.net...
>> Tom wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know how this ended up on the Hyundai site; however, when I'm
>>> driving down the interstate at night with no one in front of me, I often
>>> have my high beams on in the hope of spotting one of the many deer
>>> before he becomes a hood ornament. Nothing irritates me more than when
>>> some moron in the other lanes of the divided highway, which is 100 yards
>>> or more from my lane, starts flashing his lights. There's no way that
>>> it is affecting his ability to see. It is just that he 'knows' I have
>>> them on high beam. Just plain stupid! And inconsiderate of my right
>>> to drive safely rather than outdrive my lights.
>>
>> Wow, your divided highways are really divided! Around here, ours are
>> probably at most 50 yards from center to center, and many have just a
>> concrete divider between the lanes. I find high beams very annoying,
>> even with 50 yards separation. 100 might not be too bothersome though. I
>> flash people in the other lane of a divided highway if their lights are
>> bothering me, which they usually do on high beam. We have lots of deer
>> here in northern PA as well, which is why I don't want to have my night
>> vision temporarily reduced by someone in the opposing lane with their
>> high beams on. That more than offsets what I gain by having my own high
>> beams on. I'd rather have my low beams with full night accomodation of
>> my eyes, then high beams with temporary blindness from opposing high
>> beams.
>>
>>
>> Matt
> The highway I frequent has some wide medians though not 100 yrds wide. I
> use my HB's as much as possible, but always dim them for oncoming cars.
> Boy, it bugs me when they don't. I try to protect my night vision, and
> oncoming highs seem to burn a lingering whole in my night sight. Also, it
> is irritable when following cars dim only when very close, so close they
> are already benefitting from driving in the wake of my headlamps. I
> suppose eyes are different. Just ask yourself how you find it when others
> leave 'em up in your face. PS Obviously sweeping turns make a
> difference-in one direction traffic shining its lights into oncoming
> traffic but the other direction's lights shine out and away from the turn,
> and it my not be necessary to dim. ymmv
>

 

The only thing I can say in reply is that 40 years ago I was taught to NOT
look at the oncoming lights, but instead focus to the side of the road.
That way the lights will not bother you or your night vision. Try that
little trick. I live in NE Georgia where I85 has many sections that far
apart. My night vision is still good. I'm not THAT old. Oh, I'm from NE
Pa also by birth.

"Darby OGill" <bark@woof.net> wrote in message
news:4Urbg.654$nA2.23@trndny01...
>
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:ukpbg.8898$lb.806638@news1.epix.net...
>> Tom wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know how this ended up on the Hyundai site; however, when I'm
>>> driving down the interstate at night with no one in front of me, I often
>>> have my high beams on in the hope of spotting one of the many deer
>>> before he becomes a hood ornament. Nothing irritates me more than when
>>> some moron in the other lanes of the divided highway, which is 100 yards
>>> or more from my lane, starts flashing his lights. There's no way that
>>> it is affecting his ability to see. It is just that he 'knows' I have
>>> them on high beam. Just plain stupid! And inconsiderate of my right
>>> to drive safely rather than outdrive my lights.
>>
>> Wow, your divided highways are really divided! Around here, ours are
>> probably at most 50 yards from center to center, and many have just a
>> concrete divider between the lanes. I find high beams very annoying,
>> even with 50 yards separation. 100 might not be too bothersome though. I
>> flash people in the other lane of a divided highway if their lights are
>> bothering me, which they usually do on high beam. We have lots of deer
>> here in northern PA as well, which is why I don't want to have my night
>> vision temporarily reduced by someone in the opposing lane with their
>> high beams on. That more than offsets what I gain by having my own high
>> beams on. I'd rather have my low beams with full night accomodation of
>> my eyes, then high beams with temporary blindness from opposing high
>> beams.
>>
>>
>> Matt
> The highway I frequent has some wide medians though not 100 yrds wide. I
> use my HB's as much as possible, but always dim them for oncoming cars.
> Boy, it bugs me when they don't. I try to protect my night vision, and
> oncoming highs seem to burn a lingering whole in my night sight. Also, it
> is irritable when following cars dim only when very close, so close they
> are already benefitting from driving in the wake of my headlamps. I
> suppose eyes are different. Just ask yourself how you find it when others
> leave 'em up in your face. PS Obviously sweeping turns make a
> difference-in one direction traffic shining its lights into oncoming
> traffic but the other direction's lights shine out and away from the turn,
> and it my not be necessary to dim. ymmv
>

 

The only thing I can say in reply is that 40 years ago I was taught to NOT
look at the oncoming lights, but instead focus to the side of the road.
That way the lights will not bother you or your night vision. Try that
little trick. I live in NE Georgia where I85 has many sections that far
apart. My night vision is still good. I'm not THAT old. Oh, I'm from NE
Pa also by birth.

"Darby OGill" <bark@woof.net> wrote in message
news:4Urbg.654$nA2.23@trndny01...
>
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:ukpbg.8898$lb.806638@news1.epix.net...
>> Tom wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know how this ended up on the Hyundai site; however, when I'm
>>> driving down the interstate at night with no one in front of me, I often
>>> have my high beams on in the hope of spotting one of the many deer
>>> before he becomes a hood ornament. Nothing irritates me more than when
>>> some moron in the other lanes of the divided highway, which is 100 yards
>>> or more from my lane, starts flashing his lights. There's no way that
>>> it is affecting his ability to see. It is just that he 'knows' I have
>>> them on high beam. Just plain stupid! And inconsiderate of my right
>>> to drive safely rather than outdrive my lights.
>>
>> Wow, your divided highways are really divided! Around here, ours are
>> probably at most 50 yards from center to center, and many have just a
>> concrete divider between the lanes. I find high beams very annoying,
>> even with 50 yards separation. 100 might not be too bothersome though. I
>> flash people in the other lane of a divided highway if their lights are
>> bothering me, which they usually do on high beam. We have lots of deer
>> here in northern PA as well, which is why I don't want to have my night
>> vision temporarily reduced by someone in the opposing lane with their
>> high beams on. That more than offsets what I gain by having my own high
>> beams on. I'd rather have my low beams with full night accomodation of
>> my eyes, then high beams with temporary blindness from opposing high
>> beams.
>>
>>
>> Matt
> The highway I frequent has some wide medians though not 100 yrds wide. I
> use my HB's as much as possible, but always dim them for oncoming cars.
> Boy, it bugs me when they don't. I try to protect my night vision, and
> oncoming highs seem to burn a lingering whole in my night sight. Also, it
> is irritable when following cars dim only when very close, so close they
> are already benefitting from driving in the wake of my headlamps. I
> suppose eyes are different. Just ask yourself how you find it when others
> leave 'em up in your face. PS Obviously sweeping turns make a
> difference-in one direction traffic shining its lights into oncoming
> traffic but the other direction's lights shine out and away from the turn,
> and it my not be necessary to dim. ymmv
>

 

tjnamtiw wrote:

> The only thing I can say in reply is that 40 years ago I was taught to NOT
> look at the oncoming lights, but instead focus to the side of the road.
> That way the lights will not bother you or your night vision. Try that
> little trick. I live in NE Georgia where I85 has many sections that far
> apart. My night vision is still good. I'm not THAT old. Oh, I'm from NE
> Pa also by birth.

Yes, you absolutely don't want to look directly at oncoming headlights,
as that will give you a major temporary blind spot. However, the light
is still entering your eye and saturating the rods and lowering your
ability to see in low light conditions. You won't have one giant blind
spot in your center of vision, but you'll still have overall diminished
perception.

Much better if we all use our high beams only when there is no oncoming
traffic within a quarter mile or so, even it that traffic is a hundred
yards offset.

Matt

 

tjnamtiw wrote:

> The only thing I can say in reply is that 40 years ago I was taught to NOT
> look at the oncoming lights, but instead focus to the side of the road.
> That way the lights will not bother you or your night vision. Try that
> little trick. I live in NE Georgia where I85 has many sections that far
> apart. My night vision is still good. I'm not THAT old. Oh, I'm from NE
> Pa also by birth.

Yes, you absolutely don't want to look directly at oncoming headlights,
as that will give you a major temporary blind spot. However, the light
is still entering your eye and saturating the rods and lowering your
ability to see in low light conditions. You won't have one giant blind
spot in your center of vision, but you'll still have overall diminished
perception.

Much better if we all use our high beams only when there is no oncoming
traffic within a quarter mile or so, even it that traffic is a hundred
yards offset.

Matt

 

tjnamtiw wrote:

> The only thing I can say in reply is that 40 years ago I was taught to NOT
> look at the oncoming lights, but instead focus to the side of the road.
> That way the lights will not bother you or your night vision. Try that
> little trick. I live in NE Georgia where I85 has many sections that far
> apart. My night vision is still good. I'm not THAT old. Oh, I'm from NE
> Pa also by birth.

Yes, you absolutely don't want to look directly at oncoming headlights,
as that will give you a major temporary blind spot. However, the light
is still entering your eye and saturating the rods and lowering your
ability to see in low light conditions. You won't have one giant blind
spot in your center of vision, but you'll still have overall diminished
perception.

Much better if we all use our high beams only when there is no oncoming
traffic within a quarter mile or so, even it that traffic is a hundred
yards offset.

Matt

 

"tjnamtiw" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:5UHbg.29577$Sl4.26220@bignews1.bellsouth.net. ..
> The only thing I can say in reply is that 40 years ago I was taught to NOT
> look at the oncoming lights, but instead focus to the side of the road.
> That way the lights will not bother you or your night vision. Try that
> little trick. I live in NE Georgia where I85 has many sections that far
> apart. My night vision is still good. I'm not THAT old. Oh, I'm from NE
> Pa also by birth.
>

That's what everyone is taught and it does work for those times when some
idiot won't dim their lights, but it's a second best solution that is better
served by drivers not using their high beams in the first place. When you
are looking down at the shoulder you are not fully seeing the road in front
of you as needed to be driving. It really wouldn't be a problem if other
drivers didn't make excuses for driving into oncoming traffic with their
high beams - or behind others.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

 

"tjnamtiw" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:5UHbg.29577$Sl4.26220@bignews1.bellsouth.net. ..
> The only thing I can say in reply is that 40 years ago I was taught to NOT
> look at the oncoming lights, but instead focus to the side of the road.
> That way the lights will not bother you or your night vision. Try that
> little trick. I live in NE Georgia where I85 has many sections that far
> apart. My night vision is still good. I'm not THAT old. Oh, I'm from NE
> Pa also by birth.
>

That's what everyone is taught and it does work for those times when some
idiot won't dim their lights, but it's a second best solution that is better
served by drivers not using their high beams in the first place. When you
are looking down at the shoulder you are not fully seeing the road in front
of you as needed to be driving. It really wouldn't be a problem if other
drivers didn't make excuses for driving into oncoming traffic with their
high beams - or behind others.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

 

"tjnamtiw" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:5UHbg.29577$Sl4.26220@bignews1.bellsouth.net. ..
> The only thing I can say in reply is that 40 years ago I was taught to NOT
> look at the oncoming lights, but instead focus to the side of the road.
> That way the lights will not bother you or your night vision. Try that
> little trick. I live in NE Georgia where I85 has many sections that far
> apart. My night vision is still good. I'm not THAT old. Oh, I'm from NE
> Pa also by birth.
>

That's what everyone is taught and it does work for those times when some
idiot won't dim their lights, but it's a second best solution that is better
served by drivers not using their high beams in the first place. When you
are looking down at the shoulder you are not fully seeing the road in front
of you as needed to be driving. It really wouldn't be a problem if other
drivers didn't make excuses for driving into oncoming traffic with their
high beams - or behind others.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

 

"tjnamtiw" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:5UHbg.29577$Sl4.26220@bignews1.bellsouth.net. ..
> The only thing I can say in reply is that 40 years ago I was taught to NOT
> look at the oncoming lights, but instead focus to the side of the road.
> That way the lights will not bother you or your night vision. Try that
> little trick>

......Yup. that was what I implied by saying I try to protect my night
vision.

 

"tjnamtiw" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:5UHbg.29577$Sl4.26220@bignews1.bellsouth.net. ..
> The only thing I can say in reply is that 40 years ago I was taught to NOT
> look at the oncoming lights, but instead focus to the side of the road.
> That way the lights will not bother you or your night vision. Try that
> little trick>

......Yup. that was what I implied by saying I try to protect my night
vision.

 

"tjnamtiw" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:5UHbg.29577$Sl4.26220@bignews1.bellsouth.net. ..
> The only thing I can say in reply is that 40 years ago I was taught to NOT
> look at the oncoming lights, but instead focus to the side of the road.
> That way the lights will not bother you or your night vision. Try that
> little trick>

......Yup. that was what I implied by saying I try to protect my night
vision.

 

"Tom" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:F19bg.74608$Jk3.23389@bignews5.bellsouth.net:

> I don't know how this ended up on the Hyundai site; however, when I'm
> driving down the interstate at night with no one in front of me, I
> often have my high beams on in the hope of spotting one of the many
> deer before he becomes a hood ornament. Nothing irritates me more
> than when some moron in the other lanes of the divided highway, which
> is 100 yards or more from my lane, starts flashing his lights.
> There's no way that it is affecting his ability to see. It is just
> that he 'knows' I have them on high beam. Just plain stupid! And
> inconsiderate of my right to drive safely rather than outdrive my
> lights.

I guess I am one of those morons. In fact, if I could get rockets
installed on my car, I would definitely shoot them at you.

Especially on winding roads, even with a median, high-beams from
oncoming traffic are incredibly harmful on other drivers' night vision.

By the way,

* I have driven quite a bit in NY, PA, NJ, MD, DC, VA, IL, OH, and I do
not remember any interstates with a hundred yard median.

* Is there really such a great chance of encountering deer on interstate
highways? I am assuming, 100 yard medians don't exist on back country
roads.

* Do you also think it is a good idea to switch to high beams in dense
fog, and drive really close to the car in front of you?

Sinan

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(remove .invalid and reverse each component for email address)