The Cobalt SS is no more...
 

...than a slow, heavy excuse for a "sports car" as I have beaten one last night with my LS powered 90 civic. I only beat him by about 2 feet, but a win is a win no matter what. When will GM learn that a 200+hp motor does nothing in a huge heavy car. :wood:

I think the guy in the Cobalt needs to learn how to drive.

You are correct though. A win is a win. Good driving. :thumbsup:

oh no, wait, the SS is a 'sport compact car', so you know, it doesnt have to be that fast. Never mind that the engine has as much power from its 2.2 turbo that most other companys could get from 2.2 liters N/A,

ten years ago. :retard:

haha, supposed to be going to sleep, but this i couldnt pass up. lets compare the new cobalt to the new heap civic (generation 387).

sickvic
2600lb
197hp
139tq

cobalt
2730lb
205hp
200tq

stupid ricer, get a clue.

oh and its supercharged, not turbo. i thought you knew it all, after all, you do own the first civic ever made and think its all hot .

lmao.

wtf .. another chevy vs. honda thread :lame:

if we're talking about the new supercharged cobalt ss vs. the new civic si, than any 1/4 mile race will be pretty much a drivers battle, but i'd put money on the civic to be better performing in the corners on the track.

(taken from road and track)
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...data_panel.pdf
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...data_panel.pdf

2005 Chevrolet Cobalt SS (Supercharged) $24,195
Curb Weight - 2970 lbs
Test Weight - 3145 lbs
Horsepower - 205 bhp @ 5600 rpm
Torque - 200 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm
1/4 mile - 14.8 @ 96.8 mph

2006 Honda Civic Si - $26,080
Curb Weight - 2880 lbs
Test Weight - 3060 lbs
Horsepower - 197 bhp @ 7800 rpm
Torque - 139 lb-ft @ 6200 rpm
1/4 mile - 15.0 @ 95.6 mph

if it were me, i'd still choose the civic over the cobalt, why? for only 2 grand more you can have the peace of mind over issues such as build quality, reliability, but more importantly ... DEPRECIATION. i'll be happy to know that my car won't be worth as much as a mcdeal at mcdonalds 5 years down the line as most chevy's are now-a-days.

I don't really care enough about GM to actually know what they are selling anymore, but your right, GM gets 5 more horsepower out of a 2.2 supercharged engine then honda is getting out of a 2.0 n/a motor.


go gm?:retard:

thats whats funny about you honda guys, you never mention torque. poor poor honda, will never know what its like to have some.

go honda? :retard:

funny thing is that even with 60 or so less pounds of torque the honda is only 0.2 seconds slower in the 1/4 mile, so all your torque (and i know it is pretty usefull sometimes) doesnt play a major role here.

newbies
*rolls eyes*

depends what you want in a car

do you want a shitbox civic thats 16 years old?

or do you want a brand new car with leather, 7 spkr mp3 stereo, 10 inch woofer, sunroof, power all around, 18 inch wheels?

huh, well,
um

Old civic (1996)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...HondaCivic.gif

And uhhh, 2006 Cobalt SS

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...20RED20285.jpg


Maybe its just me :hypnotize: i have the flu so I might be seeing things >_>

are you trying to say they look alike? i see no resemblance
plus when did a civic come with two-tone leather, mp3 stereo, supercharged 2.0L, 18 inch wheels, oil life meter, factory performance upgrades?

you people are all high, this wasnt supposed to be a chevy vs honda thread. i was just saying that i beat the damn thing, we had a great time laughing at the fact that my "shitbox" beat the best compact chevys ever made. does noone have a relevant opinion or do you just wanna spew crap. also, everyone goes on about how much touque the cobalt has, yay for chevy, too bad its a european motor.

oh, and "stuped ricer"? my car is probably the least rice on this site, so shut your cocksucker.

was the cobalt ss a supercharged or the regular ss? cause if it was the ss supercharged u probably would have lost. just saying though.

also don't forget you are also swapped and the cobalt is stock. and you weigh a hell of alot less than the cobalt does. If the cobalt weighed the same as your car you would have lost hands down. also race from a second gear roll and you will see the ouitcome would have been alot different.

you want a relevant comment, fine. i think its :bs: . i think you either a) lost b) he wasnt trying or c) it wasnt an ss. happy now?

yes it was supercharged, yes he was trying (although his driving ability is questionable) there were also plenty of witnesses, even the muscle car guys were happy for me. K, this all started out with a buddy of the guy with the SS was talkin to my buddy with an srt4, sayin the SS will destroy the srt4, etc, etc. so they agreed to race, but later that night srt4 guy decided he didnt wanna race, so it was decided i would run him instead, being the next fastest car there that night. the plan was to compare the length i lost to the srt4 with how much i was going to lose to the SS by. but then we went out and i ended up beating him. There, thats the full story, you can all calm down now.

thats fine and dandy, you beat him, fair enough, good race
your car still looks like ass, did u expect someone to say you have a nice ride? look at it, its a stock econobox winter beater with an ls engine, and clear corners=rice

thank you

srt4 > cobalt > any other car > your civic

if ur civic has 90 hp, then theres no way it could beat an ss. I dont ****ing care what you say. for all i know maybe a grandma drove the SS....

90 hp from an ls motor huh

oh i miss read ur post. i though 90 was for the hp. how many it has then ...100?

add those numbers together ;)

:lmao:

cmon man, you should know by now...ls vtec is faster then... i dunno...cant compare it to anything.

by the way, i saw a vid recently of vtec on a dyno showing the moment it kicks in...sound like ****ing , lmao. honestly, sounds so bad. why do people like it. its like the engine is crying. went from a nice deep tone to ****in ghey screaching. i swear the only people who like the sound of vtec are honda owners who spend their lives defending it.

question, so how is a stock looking car rice? :tool:
so your admitting that all ur friends with fart cans and clear corners are rice. good job.

but the point is his car is stock other than the clears, and an LS. and he beat, yes a supercharged SS with a decent driver, I know both drivers personally and witnessed the race. it was clean.


and were did vtec come in, he has an LS. Not LS Vtec. and u defend cavy's the same way..... Dumbass
:laugh: :lmao: :laugh:

because i felt like saying it. isnt that what a forum is all about? where do all these threads come from?

fkn tool.

NICE KILL


jesus christ to all u guys =\

who the hell cares how it sounds. as long as it works

wouldnt be saying that if it sounded good, but since it doesnt, you defend it. and what does vtec do regarding your "works" statement. its not to make them fast :retard:

have u been in a car with vtec before, and not just a single cam??? or are u afraid of cooties? :laugh:

anyways, like I said u defend cavies the same way. and we all know they're . oh and just for your info, not only honda has variable valve timing. there is toyota, nissan, and now even your precious GM is making their own abomination of it. although its horribly and fearfully low tech and near useless and is used in a pushrod motor, it is still vvt.

im aware thers "vetec" in many toyo, etc cars now. just ive heard a honda vtec and it sounds like .

by the way, how were the oil changes, tire rotations and lube jobs today :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: did the real mechanics let you eat at their table for lunch.

ahhhhhh i miss those old days when all the hotrods sounded so loud and rude haha, those were the days, i gotta admit that gm did a pretty bad job with the cobolt ss, it looks....aaaaaeeeeee, cant really describe it, it's one of those hate of love cars, and there's a couple of SS in McMaster, saw them in the parking lot, wasnt too impressed with the design, seen them on the road, looks pretty mean and fast though, but soundwise, u cant beat an american muscle, mean lean oil burning machine that sounds like a godzilla! gm did build awesome cars, it's too bad that they didnt realize that the japanese were catching up that quickly, and now gm is losing the race, the colbolt with ss is just a last scream before death to prove something i guess lol. my 2 cents, plz dont diss me lol.

Common now guys. . . enough is enough!!! If you want a car that rattles over ever bump, has plastic snap together parts, uneven body lines, nice coushy and lofty suspension, multi coloured dashboards, then the Cobolt SS is for you. But to own a prestigious Cobolt SS first you have to pass the test.

1. Are you too stupid to know when to change your oil?
2. Are you too stupid to goto a real audio shop and purchase real audio equipment for your car?
3. Are you uninspired by performance modifications?
4. Do you like to goto the dealer as often as possible for service on your car?
5. Do you like the idea of scraping your car after 200,000km of use?

If you answered yes to any of these questions then the Chevorlet Cobolt SS is the perfect car for you!!!

Being in the automotive industry let me just state some facts. Toyota will infact be the Largest car manufacturer in the world soon, if GM does not come out with anything REMOTELY new or innovative there gonna find themselves falling straight to the bottom, no in between or middle. These are facts.

Although i don't own a civic, i have 2 honda's. I'd rather drive a 91 Civic CX over a 2006 Cobolt SS anyday of the week just knowing i could trust my car to get me where i want to go trouble free. There is no car Detroit can make that Japan doesn't have an answer too.

now go back to school. you need to learn how to spell. dismissed.

my bad. What did you study in school??

Funny enough, i was just going to comment on the increase of TQ mind you... :veryhappy

Good call StealthZ :smilie_da

My friend has a cobalt SS, and it seems to respond pretty well to mods. GM Stage 1 plus intake/exhaust and he is running 105 mph traps, which speaks to the power that it is making.

Although i don't own a civic, i have 2 honda's. I'd rather drive a 91 Civic CX over a 2006 Cobolt SS anyday of the week just knowing i could trust my car to get me where i want to go trouble free. There is no car Detroit can make that Japan doesn't have an answer too.

if you like to drive a car thats made from recycled pop cans go ahead and drive that pos honda. And if you like to drive a car that has the same amount of torque as the alternator makes go ahead and drive an import.

speak for yourself. My car makes 200HP and 195ft/lbs of torque. . . stock. its not a corvette, but it does make a little more torque then the alternator.

and its not stock...

ur missing the point. now stfu and back to the corner.