Eagle Talon Vs 996 Turbo
08-31-2006, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Fabius
funny thing is that there was once a member on TSR when this used to be it and he actually did race a 996 with his talon and beat it. His talon broke in the 10's thats why
now his new car (Porsche) well that's a compleatly different beast all together :thumbsup:
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09-02-2006, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by YellowCavy
and theres cavaliers putting out 300-800hp as well...
dsm's, civics, cavaliers are all "crap" cars in the eyes of supras, s14s, 350z's etc....why are we all fighting against each other saying cavaliers suck, hondas suck, dsms suck. They ALL have potential for power. I drive a cavalier, ive driven civics, accords, integras, talons and neons and they all have their pros and cons. But with aftermarket resources you cant say a cavalier is crap because of the shitty suspension, because with good suspension modifications its just as good as an aftermarket civic suspension.
There was a time when lots of civics and dsms were done up with crappy aftermarket parts, cavaliers are getting out of that stage now and the aftermarket support is growing, better parts are available now.
Just because you dont like a certain car doesnt mean it sucks. dms dont suck, awd turbo, lots of fun in those things. Cavaliers dont suck, ecotecs can run high 14s/low 15s with minor n/a mods. Civics dont suck either. They got tons of engine swaps available, and aftermarket support is amazing.
You cant compare an exotic to a sport compact car ever. Even if you beat him, he drives a ****in porche, sure you have bragging rights on whos faster, but his car is worth a hell of a lot more than the talon, but you feel better inside knowing you beat a porche.
Remember in f&f when paul walker beats the ferarri theres a perfect example. What that guy would feel in real life would be complete dissapointment and can you say what the **** just happened?!
With all the mods you spend on a dsm, civic, cavalier, you could have bought a supra, 350z, used corvette, real cars with real potential and good street value to them. But some people feel better having spend the money on their car, because its their car. No matter how perfect a car may be in your eyes, SOMEBODY will find something wrong with it or not like it. Car modding is all about personal satisfaction.
Even if it was a supra vs porche, the porche would still laugh at the supra, even though its a tuners dream car. Why? Because they didnt just buy the porche for the power, but the name. The name means more than power and who he can/cant beat.
I should have posted this in its own topic but what the hell. I was bored and it needed to be said.
dsm's, civics, cavaliers are all "crap" cars in the eyes of supras, s14s, 350z's etc....why are we all fighting against each other saying cavaliers suck, hondas suck, dsms suck. They ALL have potential for power. I drive a cavalier, ive driven civics, accords, integras, talons and neons and they all have their pros and cons. But with aftermarket resources you cant say a cavalier is crap because of the shitty suspension, because with good suspension modifications its just as good as an aftermarket civic suspension.
There was a time when lots of civics and dsms were done up with crappy aftermarket parts, cavaliers are getting out of that stage now and the aftermarket support is growing, better parts are available now.
Just because you dont like a certain car doesnt mean it sucks. dms dont suck, awd turbo, lots of fun in those things. Cavaliers dont suck, ecotecs can run high 14s/low 15s with minor n/a mods. Civics dont suck either. They got tons of engine swaps available, and aftermarket support is amazing.
You cant compare an exotic to a sport compact car ever. Even if you beat him, he drives a ****in porche, sure you have bragging rights on whos faster, but his car is worth a hell of a lot more than the talon, but you feel better inside knowing you beat a porche.
Remember in f&f when paul walker beats the ferarri theres a perfect example. What that guy would feel in real life would be complete dissapointment and can you say what the **** just happened?!
With all the mods you spend on a dsm, civic, cavalier, you could have bought a supra, 350z, used corvette, real cars with real potential and good street value to them. But some people feel better having spend the money on their car, because its their car. No matter how perfect a car may be in your eyes, SOMEBODY will find something wrong with it or not like it. Car modding is all about personal satisfaction.
Even if it was a supra vs porche, the porche would still laugh at the supra, even though its a tuners dream car. Why? Because they didnt just buy the porche for the power, but the name. The name means more than power and who he can/cant beat.
I should have posted this in its own topic but what the hell. I was bored and it needed to be said.
I have one question to ask you in response to your statement. You feel that paying $120,000 for a car because of its name is a logical choice? Consider this, you can purchase a Talon Tsiawd for about $6000 on 180,000kms cert n e-passed. Lets be generous here and dump another $10,000 on mods paint job etc etc. So total you have a car easily pulling 600-900hp with excellent tuning on the best brands of mods which will kill a porshe. So right now you have about $102,000 left in the bank. Is a name worth to you $102,000?
Exotic cars show accomplisment. They are nothing else but a way to showoff how much $$$ you dumped on a name, which restores your self-confidence while living with a small crooked *****.
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09-02-2006, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Sebasano
Considering what I've read so far this is a pretty good objection.
I have one question to ask you in response to your statement. You feel that paying $120,000 for a car because of its name is a logical choice? Consider this, you can purchase a Talon Tsiawd for about $6000 on 180,000kms cert n e-passed. Lets be generous here and dump another $10,000 on mods paint job etc etc. So total you have a car easily pulling 600-900hp with excellent tuning on the best brands of mods which will kill a porshe. So right now you have about $102,000 left in the bank. Is a name worth to you $102,000?
Exotic cars show accomplisment. They are nothing else but a way to showoff how much $$$ you dumped on a name, which restores your self-confidence while living with a small crooked *****.
Seb
I have one question to ask you in response to your statement. You feel that paying $120,000 for a car because of its name is a logical choice? Consider this, you can purchase a Talon Tsiawd for about $6000 on 180,000kms cert n e-passed. Lets be generous here and dump another $10,000 on mods paint job etc etc. So total you have a car easily pulling 600-900hp with excellent tuning on the best brands of mods which will kill a porshe. So right now you have about $102,000 left in the bank. Is a name worth to you $102,000?
Exotic cars show accomplisment. They are nothing else but a way to showoff how much $$$ you dumped on a name, which restores your self-confidence while living with a small crooked *****.
Seb
id prefer a lamborghini over anything if i had the money though.
i would still like to have a 10 second s14 in the driveway as well 
09-04-2006, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Sebasano
Exotic cars show accomplisment. They are nothing else but a way to showoff how much $$$ you dumped on a name, which restores your self-confidence while living with a small crooked *****.
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Exotics are the pinnicle of the automotive world... from race cars, technology goes to supercars/exotics, to road cars, to the aftermarket world that allows you to make monsters like 600+ HP tuner cars.
Not only that, you might make a Talon faster then a Porsche, Ferrari, Lambo, Corvette, etc, etc... yet it'll never be the same. Your way of thinking shows that your very narrow minded when it comes to this... If you can't see why a $100+k exotic/supercar is better then your $6000 Talon/Civic/Supra/Mustang/whatever you drive, then your totally missing the point.
09-05-2006, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by NOTORIOUS VR
You are so wrong it's not even funny...
Exotics are the pinnicle of the automotive world... from race cars, technology goes to supercars/exotics, to road cars, to the aftermarket world that allows you to make monsters like 600+ HP tuner cars.
Not only that, you might make a Talon faster then a Porsche, Ferrari, Lambo, Corvette, etc, etc... yet it'll never be the same. Your way of thinking shows that your very narrow minded when it comes to this... If you can't see why a $100+k exotic/supercar is better then your $6000 Talon/Civic/Supra/Mustang/whatever you drive, then your totally missing the point.
Exotics are the pinnicle of the automotive world... from race cars, technology goes to supercars/exotics, to road cars, to the aftermarket world that allows you to make monsters like 600+ HP tuner cars.
Not only that, you might make a Talon faster then a Porsche, Ferrari, Lambo, Corvette, etc, etc... yet it'll never be the same. Your way of thinking shows that your very narrow minded when it comes to this... If you can't see why a $100+k exotic/supercar is better then your $6000 Talon/Civic/Supra/Mustang/whatever you drive, then your totally missing the point.
If there is a point to prove back your up. Instead let me mention that Mustang which was of the first sports cars were producing over 400hp+ tuned. Porsche started out as a compact sports, not and no were near as fast as a stang. Then Ferrari and Lambo came out in 60s-90s? Producing 400+hp? Have you already read above?.
Have you heard of Honda racing? When has honda become an exotic?
Exotic cars don't make or break performance, its the engineers who invent the product.
Just for your information I know a 'labelled' exotic is prestiege. Performance? it's stock performance is great. Although again I'd rather dump $102,000 on a house instead of a car that depreciates in value every year.
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09-05-2006, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Sebasano
Where do you get your facts and information from? Keep in mind you should not read anything that's been produced by a monkey.
If there is a point to prove back your up. Instead let me mention that Mustang which was of the first sports cars were producing over 400hp+ tuned. Porsche started out as a compact sports, not and no were near as fast as a stang. Then Ferrari and Lambo came out in 60s-90s? Producing 400+hp? Have you already read above?.
Have you heard of Honda racing? When has honda become an exotic?
Exotic cars don't make or break performance, its the engineers who invent the product.
Just for your information I know a 'labelled' exotic is prestiege. Performance? it's stock performance is great. Although again I'd rather dump $102,000 on a house instead of a car that depreciates in value every year.
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If there is a point to prove back your up. Instead let me mention that Mustang which was of the first sports cars were producing over 400hp+ tuned. Porsche started out as a compact sports, not and no were near as fast as a stang. Then Ferrari and Lambo came out in 60s-90s? Producing 400+hp? Have you already read above?.
Have you heard of Honda racing? When has honda become an exotic?
Exotic cars don't make or break performance, its the engineers who invent the product.
Just for your information I know a 'labelled' exotic is prestiege. Performance? it's stock performance is great. Although again I'd rather dump $102,000 on a house instead of a car that depreciates in value every year.
Seb
Clearly, people that own cars like this have more then enough money to allow themselves to buy such cars.
On the other hand, if your so worried about the $$$, buying a $6k car, and dumping $30k into it to make it anywhere near as fast as a stock exotic, you can't be either the smartest egg in the basket, or you don't really care about other things and can afford to blow $30k on u'r $6k shitbox which you'll never get $15k for afterwards.
Cars in general are money pits... Except for a select few if kepts stock and in good shap will hold or sometimes increase in value.
09-05-2006, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by NOTORIOUS VR
The ONLY reason why you'd rather put $100+k into a house rather then a car, is because you don't have enough money for both...
Clearly, people that own cars like this have more then enough money to allow themselves to buy such cars.
On the other hand, if your so worried about the $$$, buying a $6k car, and dumping $30k into it to make it anywhere near as fast as a stock exotic, you can't be either the smartest egg in the basket, or you don't really care about other things and can afford to blow $30k on u'r $6k shitbox which you'll never get $15k for afterwards.
Cars in general are money pits... Except for a select few if kepts stock and in good shap will hold or sometimes increase in value.
Clearly, people that own cars like this have more then enough money to allow themselves to buy such cars.
On the other hand, if your so worried about the $$$, buying a $6k car, and dumping $30k into it to make it anywhere near as fast as a stock exotic, you can't be either the smartest egg in the basket, or you don't really care about other things and can afford to blow $30k on u'r $6k shitbox which you'll never get $15k for afterwards.
Cars in general are money pits... Except for a select few if kepts stock and in good shap will hold or sometimes increase in value.
First off what makes you assume that I consider $100K enough to buy a house? Were did I state $30k on mods? You should get your straight, this would at least give you some credibility. Have you owned a Talon or Porsche to back up your senile ramblings?
The only cars that increase in value are the models that are under 100 in production.
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09-06-2006, 08:18 PM
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Exotic cars show accomplisment. They are nothing else but a way to showoff how much $$$ you dumped on a name, which restores your self-confidence while living with a small crooked *****.
If I have money and have 'made it' in life, the first thing I'm doing is buying a house and some nice ****ing cars. Why? I love cars. They're a passion. If I can afford it, why not? Sure, I could drive a 40K 350z or wahtever... but why not buy a Ferrari/lambo/porsche/lotus etc?
and wrong about ~100 or less production cars. That doesn't explain why muscle cars are getting enormous prices.
09-08-2006, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboSupra12
That doesn't explain why muscle cars are getting enormous prices.
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09-08-2006, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Sebasano
Yea your pretty keen on assumptions as well. Have you ever thought that muscle cars are vintage? and parts for the exact model decrease in number every year? Another possibility would be that Ford, Dodge etc does not carry the part?
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So maybe you sohuld have put '100 or less production cars, or ___' ?
yeahh.
09-09-2006, 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Sebasano
LOL who is this guy? Until you submit your car in profile why should anyone take notice to your existance and/or postings.
First off what makes you assume that I consider $100K enough to buy a house?
Although again I'd rather dump $102,000 on a house
Were did I state $30k on mods?
You should get your straight, this would at least give you some credibility. Have you owned a Talon or Porsche to back up your senile ramblings?
The only cars that increase in value are the models that are under 100 in production.
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09-11-2006, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by NOTORIOUS VR
Although that might not mean you are buying a house for $102K, still it could have been taken that way, and since you always want to make yourself seem so smart with your posts, you should have written exactly what dump means to you.
Listen up doofus... You need to stop taking things so literal. I was giving an example.
why do cars like the BMW E30 M3 go up in value? Oh damn... there goes u'r credibility
Listen up doofus... You need to stop taking things so literal. I was giving an example.
why do cars like the BMW E30 M3 go up in value? Oh damn... there goes u'r credibility
I've researched into a BMW E30 M3 and everymodel I've seen on this site has decreased over the years
( http://m3forum.com/m3forumcgi/isc/classifieds.cgi?action=show&Category=BMW+Automobil es&Variable=autos.variables&SubCategory=Used+Cars& Session=45057e1f2c6f3893 )
The ONLY m3 I've seen have an increased value is this one
http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z2202/default.aspx
Now this one being direct from a BMW motorsports company and tuned for racing. Not to mention it seems they factored there work into the car on the price tag.
Stop pretending you know Talons, Stop pretending you know Porsches and Stop pretending you know cars in general. If you been in the scene long, you would know cars depreciate in value.
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09-11-2006, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Sebasano
Stop pretending you know Talons, Stop pretending you know Porsches and Stop pretending you know cars in general. If you been in the scene long, you would know cars depreciate in value.
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The ONLY m3 I've seen have an increased value is this one
http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z2202/default.aspx
http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z2202/default.aspx
You could have at least posted a link to an Evo III M3... I mean they sell for a minimum of 45 000 euros...