me vs. new Lancer Ralliart
 

He pulled me off the line, but he couldn't shift well and it felt like I had more top end then he did.
Surprised it didn't break down during the race.

those things are patheticaly slow...what were you driving?

He owns a Saturn.

LoL a Saturn and a Lancer...a car made of plastic that you just want to kick to see if it dents versus a car made by a VCR company lol

This cant even really be described as a race unless its to see who can put down 18 seconds in the 1.4 mile first lol

18 sec downhill.

Easy on the DSM jokes peeps, there are a few of us out there and we are watching you. :salook:

Turns out the ralliart runs high 15's....
http://www.modernracer.com/mitsubish...rralliart.html

And yes, I do drive a 94 Saturn SC2 :wood:

the ralliarts are a decent 24 thousand dollar car. they are absolutely nothing like a regular lancer. If you beat the guy with a saturn he must of had no idea how to drive at all lol. the lancers pull decently well.

DSMs are , they are unreliable, they break all the time, and the only reason they are popular is because we don't have anything better in Canada.

So what are you going to do now? Race me with your Mistubishi which you've never turned a single bolt on? You can't beat me with a car powered by hopes and dreams... hahaha.

They also make forklifts, and plastic injection moulding machines, to name a few more things. :retard:

My sat runs low 16's stock, and I have a few small mods that should drop it to very low 16's.

I have to say the ralliart should have taken you so either that driver can't shift or your Saturn runs much better then low 16's. Your right though The Raliart lacks top end power, but low end it pulls nicely. A bit too tourquey though for daily driving.. kind of annoying

To torquey compared to what? a Goped?

gayest arguement ever.... ever!!!

just because you 'turn' a bolt doesnt mean . You act as though because you picked up wrench that youre better than anyone and everyone, its the same arguement all the time from you.
Open a shop. Lets see how it does freddie.

What are u gong to do, reply to this thread when youve never coded VB before in your life ??

Stop stealing my lines. :nono:

We both actually have done VB in school. :240:

:haha: You are funny crackhead.

Never turned a single bolt? What kind of crack are you on? I'll have you know I have done my fair share of work on cars and maybe some day we will meet when my POS isnt a POS and more like a EVO in wagon sheet metal and you wont see me coming but you will see me pulling away, booster seat in the back and baby on board sign in the window and guess what, I just handed you your ass! So long sucka!!! :wt:

Moral of this story is never say you are better than someone unless you can back it up for sure. See you at the track junior. :lala:

And as for nothing better in Canada, that's right peckerhead. Tuned Hondas aren't as powerful pound for pound as tuned DSM's are. Also there aren't as many DSM's out there because Mitsu has only started marketing their own brand recently after the Chrysler fiasco. I have seen these cars pound the out of 95% of the cars they go up against and that includes: vettes, vipers, skylines, Ferraris, and also once paced a Lamboghini up to about 150MPH. Can your little Civic do that? The it can. Get left for dead against those cars. As for weak trannies and such, show me a car that doesn't have a weak stock tranny and I will call you a liar to your face while I punch your balls off for insulting me with your ignorance. Every single car out there has a so called weak tranny so that doesn't wash. You can ask 2 tone how fast I can move out on the open highway, scare your homo ass for sure. :knock_tee

im referring to VBulletin.. wrench is to car as VBulleting is to this forum / thread :lala:

DSM's are far from , it arguable has the best 4cylinder motor in the world. What other 4banger is proven to make 450whp on a stock bottom end time and time again?
As for unreliablity and breaking down all the time....I've only had to call a tow truck once with my Laser. I did a 3rd-2nd downshift and snapped a driveshaft. Not because it was unreliable, but because I was doubling the factory power output. If you double the HP of any car, its going to break. But if the car is modded properly, you'll built it properly to take the extra power. I have a 4spider gear center diff in my AWD to take the abuse of the 6K launches. As for the tranny's being the weak link, most guys that break them just dump the clutch, which is the worst thing u can do.

We'll see how well the talon I built holds up this season.....I'll be going Viper hunting this summer :drive:

:haha: VCR company!!!

i thought that DSM's were (granted maybe a little unreliable) but good cars... I know a couple of guys with them that are pullin some wild HP i find it that most people call them boxes b/c the people that i have dealt with owning DSM's care less about looks then performance which isn't bad... now if a car looks like crap but kicks your ass in a race does that make it a POS??? Diff'rent strokes for Diff'rent folks!

Lunis

I know my POS laser but a beating on a number of vettes, ws6's, stangs, and an assortment of rice dishes. Now that I have my new awd talon, with a completely different set-up, there won't be too much that'll be able to touch me on the street, without slicks at least. :cheeky4:

3SGTE.

Toyota V160.

Can I kick you in the balls now?



3sgte :smilie_da

and i daily drive a mk3 supra turbo (cept for winter) i suppose thats waaaaaaaaaay to much torque for everyday driving lol.

Until I see a 3SGTE run faster than a 6.97@198.2 MPH and make over 300hp/cylinder, I'll say the 4g63 holds the top spot :cheeky4:

Mazda 323 GT-R (1.8L BPT) engine. And 400hp+ from the stock turbo is possible too.

DSM guys are funny, every single argument all they do is refer to Shepards "dsm". What a bunch of dooshes. :bs:

Haha you're delusional. By the time that happens, I'll be flying an F-22 (never). Do you think I'm finished with either of my cars? You've got to be joking, I'm just getting started. My red car runs faster times then your heap will with mild bolt-ons AND the swap (when it happens), AND my engine is stock. It's getting standalone and a big turbo this winter, so you better have some pretty extreme modifications done to compete with it. The only time you'll be ahead of me is when I let off the gas because I don't want to be seen driving beside your "Type-R" station wagon. BTW, one of my friend's cars that I help with is a DSM with a built 2.4L and a Sheppard racing transmission, probably faster then you've ever thought about... and by "never turning a single bolt" I meant that your car is 100% stock, aside from the Type-R stickers and tacky chrome fender lip liners of course...

Have you even been to the track yet there dick breath? I know I have... so don't talk to me about proving it at the track when I'm the one with a glove box full of timeslips and your the one with a glove box full of hopes and dreams. I've been able to back up everything that I say, you are the one who still drives a stock station wagon.


Blah blah blah "all i know is what I read on internet forums" blah blah blah. You're the worst en keyboard racer on this site man. Who gives a what DSMs go up against... Vipers, Skylines, etc, they're all easy to beat if your putting down enough power, so DSMs are no different from any other tuned high HP car. Most of those "exotics" only run 12's anyway, so that's not that big of a deal. Hondas have strong stock transmission... look at most high HP Hondas, they usually have a stock transmisison, and if it's modified they usually have a Honda LSD and that's it. Talking about punching my balls for insulting you with *MY* ignorance? You're the idiot who thinks a DSM is the best thing on the planet... sure they're really good, but they aren't the best... talk about ignorant...


I think you should give up your spot as the self-appointed DSM spokesperson on this site because you're not a very good example. You drive a stock 100hp station wagon. Just because you *think* you'll swap a 4G63 and AWD into it doesn't mean you can come here and start talking as big of a game as you are. Just shut up and open your mouth/keyboard when you've actually began your project... thanks.

Until you can show me a 4G63 that makes that power for more then 10 seconds at a time, I'll continue to argue that the 4G63 ISN'T. Any engine can make stupid amounts of power if there is enough boost and nitrous fed into it, and enough development is done by AFTERMARKET companies.

Ironic how you claim the 4G63 to be the best engine in the world, yet most second gen owners are driving a ticking time bomb. Last time I checked, the best engine in the world didn't self destruct from crank-walk.

hmm so my bro wnats one right, thats not a good option is it? He wants to just get larger fuel injectors, TB and a fuel pump. and maybe a slightly larger turbo someday. Will this be alright for him to get or will he crankwalk himself to death?

First off... I claimed the 4g63 to be arguably one of the best 4bangers in the world, not 'best engine in the world' like you say i claimed.

Your right about the 7-bolt motors, they have been known to crankwalk. But let me ask you how many mitsu EVO's have you seen that've cranked walked?

B6T , feel free to pull beside my POS dsm anytime, you know what other forum to find me on :cheeky4:

Well to let your dumbass know, that time I posted wasn't Shep, it was ran by Brent Rau, theres more than one fast DSM around.
U can pull beside too, hell i'll make it fair for ya....we can do it from a roll just like you supra guys like.

your just wasting gas on these two.

what about B6T's???and their well known crank wobble problem... which is more common than crank walk.

ok come find me in the summer, we can do a 3 way :laugh: Hope you like the smell of meth.

Tell me, aside from these tubed drag cars, what is the fastest street DSM?

haha infact... he does like the smell of meth.

well that was lame. anyway im in on this. come summer ill be puttign doewn some decent power as well..

then i guess you dont get it.

i do get it. its just lame.

ok... i didn't mean for it to entertain you sorry for my failure.

woops on my buddies comp.