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what's the diff btw rotary engine and normal engine?

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Old Sep 22, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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HP per cubic inch? What the hell are you talking about?! Fine I'll take my 110 cubic in motor that puts out near 200hp vs. most 300+ cubic inch 8's that get 250-300 anyday.
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So by that most domestic 300+ cu. in. V8's should put out about 550-600hp.
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Besides LS6 is where it's at... :thumbsup
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Originally Posted by AMKK
HP per cubic inch? What the hell are you talking about?! Fine I'll take my 110 cubic in motor that puts out near 200hp vs. most 300+ cubic inch 8's that get 250-300 anyday.

whats the difference between a 800hp supra and a 1200hp one? they both runs 12s. Your dyno sheet wont add up to reserection at the track. Most domestic V8s have been putting out over 250 since 1993.I know the LT1 was rated at 285hp and that was back in 93.Thats plenty enough for some punk to kill himself in.There was a documentry on on speedvison that most import brands have been overrateing HP since the mid 90s somtimes up to 20hp more then they should be rated.
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I always wondered about those 13B's. Never actually worked on one before but stock the RX-8 only getting 18MPG city..lets say 20-21 MPG mixed driving is horrible for a car that runs high 14's!(correct me im just guessing on this one)

I was getting that exact same gas mileage in my old Stealth with 320hp running low 14's stock. and the car was almost 4000lbs with AWD too.
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Originally Posted by JIMMY54
Do you have lots of experience with rotary motors? Last night my brother brought our recently completed rx7 to the etobicoke meet. Silver fully restored with a huge front mount, fuel cell, the works. You should definitely check it out.

As for building a 4 rotor, go for it.... Mazda did build a 4 rotor which I believe was what won le mans in 1991. Anyhow the toughest part is the ecentric shaft. But if you to a search on google or yahoo they have pictures of the shaft for the 4 rotor.

If you seach yahoo austrailia search a guy named hitman with a yellow first gen rx7 he made his own 3 rotor using 13b parts.
I just started *really* learning about rotaries a few weeks ago when I began my co-op job at a certain shop. I'm working with a really smart guy who really knows his stuff... for example, he made his own eccentric shaft for his three-rotor RX7 street/race car at the shop, in addition to building the entire remainder of the car himself, except the cage and 4-link drag suspension. PM me and I'll give you some details if you want to come and check it out. Bring a change of pants
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Originally Posted by Nastyzed
actually I was refering to B6Ts post but aviously you didnt notice,And yes the LS1 is a better engine
Can an LS1 rev to 14 000rpm?
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Originally Posted by blackout_89t
Can an LS1 rev to 14 000rpm?

why the would I want to rev that high?
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Originally Posted by Nastyzed
2004 mazda rx8

MPG (city) 18
MPG (highway) 24
MPG (combined) 20
Annual Fuel Cost 2258


2004 GTO

MPG (city) 17
MPG (highway) 29
MPG (combined) 21
Annual Fuel Cost 2149


yeah those damn gas sucking american v8s LOL idiot.
Just as I thought, I didn't expect you to be able to produce an actual intelligent answer... gas turbines in airplanes use a lot of fuel, I guess they are inferior to the almighty V8 as well...
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Originally Posted by Nastyzed
why the would I want to rev that high?
Why wouldn't you want a longer power band?
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Originally Posted by blackout_89t
Why wouldn't you want a longer power band?

i like the drag if my redline is 6500 and i can pull off 11s thats fine by me.
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Obviously for you guys its a matter of opinion. No use arguing. Personally I like the rotary because of its compact size it can be mounted really low so it makes the car less top heavy for better cornering. The RX-8 motor lacks torque its a shame they didn't make a turbo version. Anyway. The car that won the '91 le mans was a mazda 787B and it had a naturally aspirated 2.6litre 4 Rotor making 700HP and 600lb of torque. Not to mention its the ONLY japanese car to EVER win lemans and the only Roraty to win lemans. So even if you don't like the technology. Show a little respect.
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Funny that "imports over rateing HP" and "rotaries" came up in the same thread. Mazda Overrated the HP in the RX-8 BIG time and had to offer refunds to everyone that got them. LOL.

All I have to say about rotaries is this, how many V8, 4 cylinder Turbo swaps do you see in an RX-7. How many Rotary swaps do you see in... anything? Alot more of the first, a lot less of the second.
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HP per Litre and HP per Cu. In. are essentially the same measure so what point are you trying to make.. you still compare horspower to a form of displacement.


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