ferrari_sol

Alright here the thing i was goin home from my g/f house i was on hwy 48 in markham close to 16th ave. I'm doin the speed limit (50) and there was the cop riding my *** so when the speed changed to 80 i gradually got up tho the speed limit and as i reached 70k he turns on the cherries. Cop comes to the window and says i pulled you over cuz you have an improper muffler. whats so improper about it? i have a silencer on it at all times. The car passed emissions with flying colours. its a completely stock 93 civic h/b (except for the muffler) and its not loud at all. my dads 02 tahoe is louder and its stock. so after bickering back and forth to the cop about the situation he goes back to the cruiser with my L & R. comes back with a ticket and he tell me how i can drop the charges in court. he said if you show me the car with the stock muffler on it i wil drop the charges. i asked how much the ticket was $110.00 i told him to give me the ticket cuz it was cheaper (i don't have a stock muffler). so i took the ticket and this retard in a cavi comes blasting by. all the noise in the world from his rice can and i look at the cop and he looks at and says i would of gave him 2 tickets. unessassary noise and improper muffler. So go ****** get him. i'm thinking of going to court and fight it. do you guy think i could win this if i show them the safety and e-test results. heres my muffler muffler

gldwngr

A muffler is primarily intended to control noise, not emissions. The emissions will have been dealt with by the engine emissions equipment and catalytic converter if so equipped long before they ever reach your muffler, assuming your car even has one.

As for safety, as long as your has no holes in it that can leak lethal exhaust fumes to the underside of your car where it can then seep back into the interior of your car, it is considered safe even if it has no muffler at all. Emissions and safety tests have very nothing to do with how loud a mufffler is or whether a given muffler is "proper" for a given automotive application.

Your muffler is advertised as a straight-through muffler. The HTA specifically mentions gutted or straight-through (Hollywood) style mufflers as being unacceptable.

Just change your exhaust to something acceptable, something quieter. Sure, your car might be a little quieter and you might not get as much of that attention that you must desperately crave, and sure, there will always seem to be other louder cars out there that seem to get away with it (at least at the moment that you happen to notice them), but you will have reduced your chances of being repeatedly bled dry for $110 time after time. Your neighbours will thank you for it too.

rabbitman

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I'm taking our resident officers side on this. Those retarded mufflers don't gain you any power. The only thing they do is attract attention, as you already found out. Switch back to something sane and quiet. I hate those stupid things driving past my house on the highway.
Oh and BTW, my old car had a full exhaust, front to rear, with a muffler, and you could have a conversation in it on the highway, without yelling. And it ran 12.3 in the 1/4 with a muffler.

ca_focus

I just went through that too. I faught it and won. I went the route of.....The cop cant read decible points with his ears, he cant just say that it was a noise violation. It has to have a certain decible reading in order for them to charge you with it. Then they will send you to an MTO office for a reading.....just have the silencer in when you do it.

gldwngr

Nothing in the HTA or associated regulations say anything about a decibal level that must be reached for charges to be laid, whether we're talking about unnecessary noise, improper muffler, or even city noise bylaw infractions.

A cop CAN charge you for improper muffler based on his observation and own reasonable-held opinion that the muffler is not providing adequate noise control as installed on your vehicle. A muffler that is totally approrpriate for use on one vehicle may not necessarily provide the necessary sound control on another vehicle, and so may be deemed to be "improper". Also, certain types of mufflers are deemed improper to use on any road-use vehicle.

Why you got off is anyone's guess, but the reason you give is not supported by law.

Supra_RZ

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if you want a great exhaust system or muffler go for Spoon becuase they look stock when installed on the car and yet sound nice and gives your car some preformance. Take a look @ my friends 2000 Civic SiR which has a Spoon Exhaust http://gtcars.ca/online/showthread.php?t=18737 . He has had it on his car for over a year now and never got pulled over.

BrowNKiD

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yep i got me one of thoes its loud as *** tho