markethound80

I got a ticket last night for doing 85 in a 70. However, the cop said he clocked me at 101 and could have given me a more severe ticket. He did mention to me that if I took it to court the crown prosecuter reserves the right to bump of the charge to the 101 speed I was doing and he put some code "R 101" on the ticket. Has anyone ever heard of this? I never have and I have gotten more than my share of tickets.

cutra

Nope never heard of this yet why would you take it to court if you were speeding you were speeding.
Just pay the ticket or it could get worse in court...
Just my 2 cents.

poopoohead

hell no it cant get worse in court, whenever u get there, the prosecutor always asks you if you want to make a deal before court actually starts

but to the op, sounds like the officer doesn't like going to court, so he'll give u the spiel about reducing it and if u do decide to fight blah blah blah that the prosec does have the right to bring the charge back to the original 101 to scare u. he gave u the "R" so that u think you're actually getting a deal, or the better end of it, (which u kinda are) to hope that u just pay the ticket and not fight it so he doesn't have to show up.

get the disclosure, find grey areas and put together a case of w/e u can come up with to fight it.

try to make the officer look like a tool while you're at it too (the best feeling when they're like, "ahh... um..."

lets just hope he doesn't show

lmao sorry bout the thead jacking/rant but i just scrapped a case in court and won so for all the dis believers u can win!

cutra

Good luck and let us know how it goes...
Do you have a court date?

ticketcombat

The R stands for "reduction" to let the prosecutor know the speed was reduced on the ticket.

He can then threaten to bump the speed back up. York Region spearheaded this amendment provision in York (Regional Municipality) v. Winlow, 2009

Basically if you request a trial, they can proceed with the original speed of 101 km/h. READ THAT AGAIN - Yes they can!

The cop gave you a break and fair warning. You don't get any demerit points at 15 over so if you go to trial, you are going to have to fight the charge, any further reduction will just save you the fine, not demerit points or the the insurance hit from a conviction.

xcopper2

Ticketcombat is quite correct. R101 simply means "reduced from 101kph". There is of course nothing wrong with applying for a trial date, however. Before the court starts, call out the policeman's name or number, and if he's there then plead guilty right away, before the crown has the opportunity to ask for the amendment to the original speed. If he's not there, the crown will likely withdraw. It's a free kick at the can, and if you're successful, then your next conviction will be your first conviction, right?

D-BesT

Yes they can. And believe me if you want a trial, they will...