2008 Mugen Edition Honda Civic Si vandalized on dealer lot
11-22-2007, 07:27 AM
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no, im obviously not saying this is better than a limited edition lambo or a carerra GT but after trying to bring down the cars value, the only argument I could filter out from your ignorant post was that the car would be at high risk of theft. Yes, its a civic, but for 30k I wouldn't buy anything else. K-series motors are ****in bulletproof, the potential for that thing is unreal.
srt-4 > mugen si? 230 horsepower out of a 2.4L turbo charged motor OR 200 horsepower out of a 2.0L naturally aspirated motor. Ya, i'll take the srt-4 anyday? Also, the Honda will be more reliable than its mopar counterpart and it will look better doing it...just because you hate on honda's doesn't mean your opinion needs to be biased.
srt-4 > mugen si? 230 horsepower out of a 2.4L turbo charged motor OR 200 horsepower out of a 2.0L naturally aspirated motor. Ya, i'll take the srt-4 anyday? Also, the Honda will be more reliable than its mopar counterpart and it will look better doing it...just because you hate on honda's doesn't mean your opinion needs to be biased.
11-22-2007, 07:30 AM
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oh while on the topic of comparing 4 banger motors. not a sedan but gms new 20 liter turbo motor. 260 hp. comes in the solstice and sky and will be in the new cobalt ss. those cars handle really good, have a very tight chassis and with 260 hp will be the new sport compact car to catch. again not a sedan but were talking small motors. you have 60 more hp from the same size engine and its realible. the ecotec is a tough motor and that 2 liter will take a kicking. hell gm even offers a manual you can buy to show you how to make over 1000 hp from it. 
11-22-2007, 12:04 PM
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11-22-2007, 08:00 PM
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did you just compare a 260 hp forced induction motor to a 200 hp NA motor?
anyhow, I dunno if you realize how much boost a k20a2 can handle with stock internals. There is a guy who decided to test the stock block to see just how much it could handle (he had a fully built motor to replace the stock one) and ran a ridiculous amount of boost on his stock k20a2 (i dont remember exactly) and made around 550 WHP i believe. Turned the boost up even more and blew it up after that... if u don't believe me ill go on and find the vid. The point is, the k-series motor is far superior to the srt-4 and has much more potential. period. both boosted or both NA and the K motor hands it to the srt-4 motor.
and dude, an k20a2 EG with I/H/E and kpro will run 12's and make ridiculous power numbers for the mods they have... I guess NA k-series doesn't respond well to mods.
anyhow, I dunno if you realize how much boost a k20a2 can handle with stock internals. There is a guy who decided to test the stock block to see just how much it could handle (he had a fully built motor to replace the stock one) and ran a ridiculous amount of boost on his stock k20a2 (i dont remember exactly) and made around 550 WHP i believe. Turned the boost up even more and blew it up after that... if u don't believe me ill go on and find the vid. The point is, the k-series motor is far superior to the srt-4 and has much more potential. period. both boosted or both NA and the K motor hands it to the srt-4 motor.
and dude, an k20a2 EG with I/H/E and kpro will run 12's and make ridiculous power numbers for the mods they have... I guess NA k-series doesn't respond well to mods.
11-22-2007, 08:03 PM
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why is that retarded? an STI is a different story considering its boosted but the WRX isn't anything special... ****in type-r eg's run circles around WRX's in auto-cross...
11-22-2007, 09:24 PM
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and dude, an k20a2 EG with I/H/E and kpro will run 12's and make ridiculous power numbers for the mods they have... I guess NA k-series doesn't respond well to mods.[/QUOTE]
-- we arent talking about bone stock cars anymore...you can put x amount of dollars into any car and make it fast....
-- we arent talking about bone stock cars anymore...you can put x amount of dollars into any car and make it fast....
11-22-2007, 10:34 PM
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[/QUOTE]Ok so lemme try to see what you're saying because you don't seem to know what it is you are trying to say.
k20a2 EG w/I/H/E and x amount of dollars>sir>mugen si>wrx>mugen si???
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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11-23-2007, 09:27 AM
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k20a2 EG w/I/H/E and x amount of dollars>sir>mugen si>wrx>mugen si???
i dont know how an sir got into this...my original statement of mugen si>wrx
is comparing bang for the buck...they are both roughly 30 grand, and the wrx has more bang for the buck. Even though i love hondas, i own and drive one, the wrx, when compared to the mugen si plain and simple is worth the 30 grand.
as for the gentelmen who compared a rebuilt k motor to both the above, all i said was that you can add any amount of money into any car and make it fast...above, we are comparing two stock "sporty" sedans....both with a cost of approx. 30 grand....
so agian....mugen si > wrx
----> i know the wrx is boosted....we are comparing bang for the buck...
hope that clears things up...i came out.....enjoy....LOL
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i dont know how an sir got into this...my original statement of mugen si>wrx
is comparing bang for the buck...they are both roughly 30 grand, and the wrx has more bang for the buck. Even though i love hondas, i own and drive one, the wrx, when compared to the mugen si plain and simple is worth the 30 grand.
as for the gentelmen who compared a rebuilt k motor to both the above, all i said was that you can add any amount of money into any car and make it fast...above, we are comparing two stock "sporty" sedans....both with a cost of approx. 30 grand....
so agian....mugen si > wrx
----> i know the wrx is boosted....we are comparing bang for the buck...
hope that clears things up...i came out.....enjoy....LOL
PM me if you need more clarification on my comments....
cheers; Mike
ps: forums can be worse than trying to explain yourself on MSN...lol
11-23-2007, 12:26 PM
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anyhow, I dunno if you realize how much boost a k20a2 can handle with stock internals. There is a guy who decided to test the stock block to see just how much it could handle (he had a fully built motor to replace the stock one) and ran a ridiculous amount of boost on his stock k20a2 (i dont remember exactly) and made around 550 WHP i believe. Turned the boost up even more and blew it up after that... if u don't believe me ill go on and find the vid. The point is, the k-series motor is far superior to the srt-4 and has much more potential. period. both boosted or both NA and the K motor hands it to the srt-4 motor.
and dude, an k20a2 EG with I/H/E and kpro will run 12's and make ridiculous power numbers for the mods they have... I guess NA k-series doesn't respond well to mods.
anyhow, I dunno if you realize how much boost a k20a2 can handle with stock internals. There is a guy who decided to test the stock block to see just how much it could handle (he had a fully built motor to replace the stock one) and ran a ridiculous amount of boost on his stock k20a2 (i dont remember exactly) and made around 550 WHP i believe. Turned the boost up even more and blew it up after that... if u don't believe me ill go on and find the vid. The point is, the k-series motor is far superior to the srt-4 and has much more potential. period. both boosted or both NA and the K motor hands it to the srt-4 motor.
and dude, an k20a2 EG with I/H/E and kpro will run 12's and make ridiculous power numbers for the mods they have... I guess NA k-series doesn't respond well to mods.
11-23-2007, 12:28 PM
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[/QUOTE]and now your talking about modding and doing a swap. since were talking straight line here. ford mustang, built big block ford motor, i can show you a link if you want. 600 hp on the motor and itll take another 300 from spray cause its a nitrous motor. and you have a car thatll run low 9's or better.
11-23-2007, 12:31 PM
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it doesnt matter if the wrx is boosted or not. its a slow car. that 227 hp is cut down in a huge way when fed to all 4 wheels. my practically stock cavalier with bolt ons and a 50 shot absolutly lengthed my buddies wrx. every time. from a dig hed get me cause hed clkutch drop off the limiter but by third gear i was ahead of him every time and from a roll it was like picking on a school bus. it was pointless. the wrx probably makes less pwoer to the wheels than the mugen si will and wont handle as good.