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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 12:01 AM
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To the original poster:

Its your choice, pay an @ss load of cash for a simple fix, do it the "right way"

Or...

Take an afternoon, do it yourself, take the extra cash you saved from taking it to a mechanic and take your girlfriend to dinner and a night out. Hell maybe even save enough money to go on a weekend vacation.

Its up to you, but good luck with it. Let me know if you want a pump. I still have my stock one I'll sell ya for really cheap. PM me if your interested.
Old Sep 23, 2006 | 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Dansredz28
Funny thing is I am a mechanic I have been ASE certified from UTI for about 5 years now
oh god, UTI? no wonder you cut a hole in your floor.
Old Sep 23, 2006 | 06:25 AM
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 06:27 AM
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And i wouldn't do it on a job to someone elses car without them knowing
Old Sep 23, 2006 | 11:51 AM
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Well I cut a hole in my floor, but only after the tank was out of the car- dropping the rear-end, suspension etc.. But I cut the hole because the -10AN feed line and -8AN return line won't fit above the tank. They actually protrude an inch above the floor before going back down.

I didn't want to do it- but really didn't have a choice. As far as structural integrity, with the SFC's, various braces and cage going in, I think those will make up for it.
Old Sep 23, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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i dont wanna sound like an idiot and im not even gonna lie and say i know anything about this but if u cut the hole then weld it after wont it be basically as strong as it was before u did it if its welded right? i havent and wont cut a hole in my floor but im just curious, i know alot about other things on cars but welding isnt one of them
Old Sep 23, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000v6cam
i dont wanna sound like an idiot and im not even gonna lie and say i know anything about this but if u cut the hole then weld it after wont it be basically as strong as it was before u did it if its welded right? i havent and wont cut a hole in my floor but im just curious, i know alot about other things on cars but welding isnt one of them
NO NO NO!!! Bad idea to weld there especially after having the area open, fuel drips all over and fumes are everywhere....BOOM!!! Cutting it open isnt as much of a problem cuz the fuel has not yet been exposed.

But yes, ideally if you weld it shut it would be fine (theoretically).

I worked in a body shop for several years and I cant fathom how cutting a small hole in that area will affect structural intetgrity.
Old Sep 23, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Shodown
NO NO NO!!! Bad idea to weld there especially after having the area open, fuel drips all over and fumes are everywhere....BOOM!!! Cutting it open isnt as much of a problem cuz the fuel has not yet been exposed.

But yes, ideally if you weld it shut it would be fine (theoretically).

I worked in a body shop for several years and I cant fathom how cutting a small hole in that area will affect structural intetgrity.

yea thats what i was thinking, i personally wouldnt want to make sparks by a fuel tank so i definatly wouldnt weld i was just curious
Old Sep 23, 2006 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Shodown
NO NO NO!!! Bad idea to weld there especially after having the area open, fuel drips all over and fumes are everywhere....BOOM!!! Cutting it open isnt as much of a problem cuz the fuel has not yet been exposed.

But yes, ideally if you weld it shut it would be fine (theoretically).

I worked in a body shop for several years and I cant fathom how cutting a small hole in that area will affect structural intetgrity.
that is not a small hole(a small hole is less than 4 inches)though if you have enough room to pull the ring from the pump (8 inches or so ,so teh hole needs to be almost 10 inches to have room to work) pulling the tank is not that hard really as long as you have jackstands and a couple of jacks
Old Sep 23, 2006 | 05:42 PM
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Small is perspective I guess

That still doesnt answer my question, how does it affect the structural integrity?
Old Sep 23, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Shodown
Small is perspective I guess

That still doesnt answer my question, how does it affect the structural integrity?
you cut a large hole in the structure of the car at a crush point, now crash and watch teh floor puncture the tank. Would you cut a big chunk out of a frame rail (the floor of a unibody car is the frame) with no support added?
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Any hole in a body obviously compromises strength, but in an area above the fuel tank I don't think it would be as compromising as other areas.

The only perceivable way to weld it safely that I can see would be to make sure all your spilled gas is evaporated and then make sure the welding is done in a well ventilated area.

Take the piece you cut out and weld a 1" tab around the edge of the piece first, then weld that tab on top so that you're not butt welding above your tank. You will still get some sparks, but there will be considerably less that way. Its still a crapshoot though-

The safest way is obviously dropping the tank, but cutting a hole is another way, although i wouldn't recommend it- one slip is all it takes and you either end up with a cut line, gash in your fuel tank or other.

If you aren't comfortable with doing the work to drop the tank, I dont think you are the right person to grab a grinder and cut a hole in your floor.
Old Sep 24, 2006 | 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by archemedes
you cut a large hole in the structure of the car at a crush point, now crash and watch teh floor puncture the tank. Would you cut a big chunk out of a frame rail (the floor of a unibody car is the frame) with no support added?
Puncture the tank??!! IF thats even possible and you are hit that hard in an accident, then the last thing you will have to be worried about is leaking fuel cuz you'll already be dead.
Old Sep 24, 2006 | 02:49 AM
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And i wouldn't do it on a job to someone elses car without them knowing
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