skillton

MAzda can nevar lose.

J-MAC

your a smart smart man.

biggy

protoge i understand, in fact its a very nimble car due to weight and it probably is balanced well, but an mx3? lmao, i would love to see even a modded mx3 rip an R on the track, nevermind any other car, even keeping the R stock.

mx3 = junk yard scrap :supergay:

munch

hey hey now lets not go that far as to say junk yard scrap....sure there slow stock but dump a klze in there your looking at around 200 hp (correct me if im wrong) but i do know one thing the klze takes really really really nicely to a shot of spray but ither way i dun worry about it im just gettin one for daily driver and maybe a 50 shot to hit 16's on the factory 4 cly

Z28 MeTaL HeAd

dog....16's....ON SPRAY! :hah:

-Jay

biggy

:hah: thats just funny

munch

yea man wait till i get my cold air intake then she will really boot

jdmsleeper

v-dubbbbbsters all the way and i'm a honda owner.
personally i think v-dubs and all german cars (except for those made in mexico ) are much more reliable than any north american car. and common the sunfire.... please i've never seen a fast, or nice looking sunfire.

Z28 MeTaL HeAd

^Thats cuz they dont exist...

And the nicest Sunfires out there are the CavFire's...even SunFire owners realize the Cavy looks better than the SunFire

There actually are sum fast jbodys, u just dont really see them up here...but i do personally know of 2 2nd gen's are are pretty quick....a supercharged red one, looks like a 91 and an all motor blue one...i believe thats a 92....there both in the Mississauga area...

-Jay

mazdubber

Okay there buddy, come out to some Solo 1 events this year then. My measly little MX3 is classified in GT1. One class above a Type R's starting class. Modify the R in any way and it's in my class. Hopefully there will be some R owners out there who'll come out. As for skidpad numbers, they are indeed usless. All I need is a set of R compounds and I'll make just about any car pull close to 1 G.

biggy

guys i started off by saying mx-3 compared to a R and miata is , because someone said that an mx-3 will kick everyones *** on a track.those were just two off the top of my head that i know stock form will kill an mx-3 in handling. Not to mention rabbit Gtis which are over 10years older, and the list goes on and on and on.

As for modded cars i dunno , i guess maybe the mx-3 does have a good niche in autocross events, i dunno still what are the fastest mx-3s with those klze motors? lucky to hit 14s? honestly even if they handle well, with no power to back it up they are stuck in the back of the pack, no matter what kind of racing they are doing.

As for the sunfires, i dont see anyone confessing that they made a joke, so it worries me that we actually have 8 people on here that would pick a sunfire over anything... hopefully at least 6 of the were chicks

biggy

i`d like to see the standings, although its not really fair to say, "i can beat most cars out there" maybe your a pro-star driver! i dunno ! The only true way to see how cars fair against eachother is to get a non partisan driver, give him track time with both cars and see which gets the fastest time...

of course that will never happen so i suppose arguments one way or the other are pointless.

Z28 MeTaL HeAd

Im not defending the SunFire as a car, but i will defend the potential in the motor/drivetrain....u can make sum serious number by bolting the complete 2.3 Quad 4 H.O. W41 top-end onto a car with the 2.4L Block...that means head, intake, valves, fuel rail, cams, injectors, ECU etc. and than u can put sum lower compression pistons in and turbo it....u can make SERIOUS numbers out of a Quad HyBrid, and the only reason i would do that is cuz its not done often (most people with j-bodys know u can do that, or it seems like to much of a big job) so instead they rock the stock and "modify" the cars to look faster than they actually r....

i will one day build a turbo 2.4/2.3 hybrid and put her in like a 2nd gen Cavalier Z24...

-Jay

B6T

If you knew anything about what you were talking about, you would know that the MX3 is based on the same platform as the "light and nimble" Protege. Given that it weighs less, it can only handle better then a Protege.

Maybe you should know what you are talking about before you start talking . A KLZE MX3 lucky to hit 14's? No way buddy, this isn't VW we're dealing with here. With a slick, you can easily get an KL-MX3 into the 13's... not bad for an engine that can be purchased for about $1500. And guess what, the transmission won't explode after three runs... something I'm sure you've become used to. I can't believe how one sided you are... stop being so ignorant, you're giving VW drivers (who are usually the most open minded of car enthusiasts) a bad name. You'd have to be a ing retard to think a 21 year old VW Rabbit would handle any MX3 ever.

l_bilyk

open minded = :supergay: