Originally Posted by ForceFedSi

well im a full time student and im still pretty young so the EK was A LOT cheaper for me. i wanted something i could build up myself as well. now im at around 190 WHP with a 98 spec JDM type-r in the car that im going to boost over the winter.

its still not a RWD turbo mr2 but i love my car none the less... plus mr2's didnt come with mad vtakkkkk yo. haha

Originally Posted by A790

K20 swaps don't run 12's, but thanks for coming out :)

And yea, a boosted SOHC at 13 psi probably would run 12's,but it would definitely take $2,000 or more to do it. And besides, for the price of my MR2 you could have yourself a FWD NA car, sure, but we both know who'd be faster on the track.

The point that I was trying to make is that it takes a lot to make a NA Honda run 12's. You can sit here and bark your rice math at me all day, but we all know what the reality is. Seeing as how there are 600 WHP boosted Civics that are in the mid-11's, and running 12's in anything is hella fast, there's no bloody way that a K20 Civic runs 12's out of the gate. I've seen a dozen K20 swaps first hand into just about every kind of Civic around and I've yet to see one of them hit 12's, even with the usual I/H/E stuff.

Show me some proof :)


EDIT

After talking to some of my Honda buddies (www.strd.com) who run the show in Calgary for Honda's, we've come to the conclusion that you don't have a clue what you're spouting off. Running 12's NA would take around 250 whp and a 1,700 lb car, which would require a ton of chassis stripping, low-weight OEM replacements, and a bunch of engine work to get it to 250 whp anyway.

Good luck, but I'm calling bullshit on you.

Originally Posted by A790

LOL I'm 20 and I go to Fanshawe college in London. I worked my ass off for my cars ... :D

Good luck with the boostin ;)

Originally Posted by goldwing

Your Honda buddies dont know anything. A 1700lbs car with 250whp all motor is 11s. And 600whp is atleast 10s. My buddy has a stock h22 civic and he will smoke you. And if you dont believe it, we'll run tonight.

Originally Posted by goldwing

Your Honda buddies dont know anything. A 1700lbs car with 250whp all motor is 11s. And 600whp is atleast 10s. My buddy has a stock h22 civic and he will smoke you. And if you dont believe it, we'll run tonight.

Originally Posted by ForceFedSi

haha thanks... ya im only 19 lol i get hassled by all my friends because of the amount of time and money i put into my cars. ive only had an EG and an EK so far tho. ill probably never sell this EK but time will tell.




well the Altech CRX runs high to mid 10's all motor... so it definitely can be done. his esitmated power is only 410WHP and 250WTQ.

Originally Posted by fousse69

man im not trying to be an but my h22 hatch runs a 13.4...lol but its only a h22 and yes i have time slips to prove this also ...but again this is in a gutted hatch on drag radials..

Originally Posted by A790

LOL okay bud- I'll pull my car out of storage just so I can show your buddy's stock H22 my tail lights :loser:

You fail to realize that there's a lot more to a time than just horsepower. The reason why a 600 whp civic is 11s is because it's a bitch to hook up. And hey, if you think that your buddies 190 WHP Civic (stock H22 less drivetrain loss) can touch my car, that's fantastic. Like I had mentioned already in this thread, keep the rice math at home :D Come to the track and post some slips, then start spouting off like you know something.

Oh, and my "Honda buddies that don't know anything" are from Speedtech Racing Development (www.strd.com), which I am willing to bet my life savings have done up more Honda's than you could even imagine- when the owner is rolling around in a 400WHP S2000, entering cars into shows across the continent, and even getting magazine coverage, I'm going to take their word over some jackoff that things they know what's up.

Show me your "stock" H22 Civic that can smoke my MR2 (which ran a 13.7 in CALGARY, probably a 13.4 here- we'll find out next season) and I'll buy you lunch and the gas that it took to prove it. Otherwise, go crawl in your hole and do some actual research before spouting off about your "buddies" cars.




Yea, but that CRX has had tons of chassis work and aerodynamics modifications. Being light and being able to slip through the air gives fantastic times.

PS - have you seen their next project? A Honda Insight, which has one of the lowest drag coefficients around! That will be SICK!

Originally Posted by goldwing

Well, until you bring out your car and race, we'll never find out. I dont know why you have your car in storage already, but if you decide you wanna go let me know. As for speedtech racing, I really dont care what they say. I have my own experience with Hondas, and know what they can do. I'm not saying Hondas are the best, or the only fast cars. I'm just saying you're being a little ignorant and underestimating what 190whp EG can run 1/4.

A 600whp civic runs 11s? Who are you to say that? Have you been in a 600whp civic or are you just guessing with all that knowledge you have. Maybe on regular street tires, but on a drag radial or on slicks, it will be closer to 10s or even 9s. Oh and if that 400whp S2000 is around why dont you bring him along with you. I got something for him too.

Originally Posted by TTZ_JSpec

You guys type to much and im to lazy to read so someone fill me, is this a bashing going on, not trying to take sides or anything just curious :)

Originally Posted by TTZ_JSpec

WOOT!!!! THREAD JACK FTW!!! So anyways i took my type R to the track and ya'll will never guess what it ran a 17.92 @173mph... i owned man!

Originally Posted by TTZ_JSpec

WOOT!!!! THREAD JACK FTW!!! So anyways i took my type R to the track and ya'll will never guess what it ran a 17.92 @173mph... i owned man!