RFF

If you look at his biography he was enrolled in one of Hitler's youth group projects but stopped going . He was born in 1927 I think so if he did serve in the army it was only in the final year of the war.

meissen

Ah, aight. Ah well, being atheist it doesn't really effect me too much who's pope..

RFF

That statement is kind of naive.

Bernotas05

I am religious i guess, i only go to church on holidays and what not. but it dont really matter to me whos pope.. IMO i think they should have got someone much younger.. 78?!? that is close to the average life span..

Mikerock

im telling you, pope jon bon jovi.

it would be perfect

NCamaro94

being atheist, nothing matters....not to start a religous arguement.

SOMBirdV6

meissen

Quite the contrary, not meaning to start a religious either, just posting a response to that... being atheist means that I rely on my own morals and decisions than have some 78 year old guy (in this case) tell me what's right and wrong when he's stuck in a different century and time than the current world is in. I don't believe in the threat of going to hell for being bad, nor the reward of heaven, but I rather believe that if I make the wrong choices (that in a religious point of view bring one to persecution) I'm just being a bad person, and that alone is enough of a reason to make me want to make the right decisions. That, and I can't see myself ever trusting a "religious figure" when they're groping the sack of their alter boys...

Mike Jones

iTrader: (1)

I personally don't care who the pope is, I'm not Cathloic so it doesn't effect me.

NCamaro94

i don't know any atheists so can i ask a couple questions please? do you believe their is a God? or how do you explain everything and its existence and how it got here? not meaning to criticize(again not wanting to start a war here) just curious on the point of views of your religion or w/e you call it.

JimmyFrance

We got here through evolution. I do not believe there is a god. I do not believe there is an afterlife. When you die, your dead...nothing, darkness. Like a deep sleep with no dreams and you never wake up. Scary? Yes. Over the past few years I've decided that religion is for people who are afraid of the unknown, so they reassure themselves through various religions and beliefs.

RFF

For those who use religion to add some solace to their life, I see nothing wrong with that.

meissen

It's cool, I'm sure most people know me for always being willing to explain my point of view. When it comes to religion I try my best not to be close minded, because of course it's 99% based on belief as there's no proof either way. Even with my beliefs, there's no proof to answer the ultimate "Where did the universe come from?" question. As far as me believing there is a God, that's what Atheism is, it's the belief that there's no higher diety, also nicknamed Scientificology (atleast around my area, that's what I hear people call it), because people rely on science to explain where humans, the universe, etc came from. I'm a very scientific person in regards to anything scientific intrigues me 1000%, especially space and such. As far as the Universe, science can prove that the entire universe as we know it is basically an elastic rubber band that's being pulled on right now (not the best analogy)... everything is moving away from eachother in an expanding motion, and if you reverse the motion it obviously all comes together in one central point, which is why I believe the "Big Bang" theory. I mean, science can show that evolution is true, science can show that the *potential* for advanced life on other planets is VERY high (of course we haven't found it yet, so it's a weak arguement), and the roman catholic religion is just (not meaning any offense to anyone) so corrupt and mismanaged that it's hard for me to believe in their teachings. I mean... they lead you to believe that Adam and Eve is supposed to be where Humans truely came from, but yet at the same time, they say no to incest. If you think about it, if everyone descended from Adam and Eve, then that means that Adam and Eve's children had incestuous relations to continue the "family tree." I dunno, every time I went to church I always felt like I was being brainwashed into something that just seemed a little too... unbelievable.. to believe. But of course, it's just my opinion, I respect that everyone else believes different things, and I wouldn't be surprised if, let's say, Danielle or someone else disagreed with certain things I said, Atheism is a funny term because by definition it's just the non-belief in a higher diety... agnostic is not being sure... so it's like you can believe many different things, but still named "atheist." *deep breath* ok I'm done with my preaching.


Edit: d'oh there was one more thing to touch on that I forgot to, another thing that has always swayed me away is that most of the religious people I know are the biggest hypocrites I've ever met, like one girl I know is Baptist.. which i always thought meant you were like even more strict with your religion than Catholics, but yet she's all like "Hey, want a BJ?" while we're watching TV and her little brother is in the other room... we went to this religious thing that she talked me into going to and on the way there and back, she repeatedly shoved my hand in her pants (much to my willingness ) and allowed me to have fun while her youth group sat all around us (we had a blanket over, so no one noticed... or atleast no one said anything)

MeenZ28

I decided to let this guy have it. I turned down the offer when they said i couldn't turn a part of the Vatican into a 1/4" track. So i let That Benidict Arnold the 16th have the job.

meissen

lol my mom was just saying everytime she hears the pope's new name she thinks of that traitor.