'03 CR-V Oil filter...new one looks smaller
02-08-2004, 05:01 PM
#106
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Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...new one looks smaller
On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 09:10:49 -0600, "tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote:
>If there made by Fram which I use why not just buy a Fram at Wal-mart $2.89
>ea.
Well it depends on which Fram part you're talking about but Honda has some
say in the specs for materials and build. See
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/old_filters.shtml for comparisons of
several of the old style filters - the Honda version has a larger inlet
hole area and more filter media than the Frams. That said, I refuse to buy
the Fram-made Honda filters; if the dealer can't or won't get the Filtech
versions, I use Purolator Pure Ones.
Rgds, George Macdonald
"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
>If there made by Fram which I use why not just buy a Fram at Wal-mart $2.89
>ea.
Well it depends on which Fram part you're talking about but Honda has some
say in the specs for materials and build. See
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/old_filters.shtml for comparisons of
several of the old style filters - the Honda version has a larger inlet
hole area and more filter media than the Frams. That said, I refuse to buy
the Fram-made Honda filters; if the dealer can't or won't get the Filtech
versions, I use Purolator Pure Ones.
Rgds, George Macdonald
"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
02-08-2004, 05:01 PM
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Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...new one looks smaller
On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 09:10:49 -0600, "tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote:
>If there made by Fram which I use why not just buy a Fram at Wal-mart $2.89
>ea.
Well it depends on which Fram part you're talking about but Honda has some
say in the specs for materials and build. See
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/old_filters.shtml for comparisons of
several of the old style filters - the Honda version has a larger inlet
hole area and more filter media than the Frams. That said, I refuse to buy
the Fram-made Honda filters; if the dealer can't or won't get the Filtech
versions, I use Purolator Pure Ones.
Rgds, George Macdonald
"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
>If there made by Fram which I use why not just buy a Fram at Wal-mart $2.89
>ea.
Well it depends on which Fram part you're talking about but Honda has some
say in the specs for materials and build. See
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/old_filters.shtml for comparisons of
several of the old style filters - the Honda version has a larger inlet
hole area and more filter media than the Frams. That said, I refuse to buy
the Fram-made Honda filters; if the dealer can't or won't get the Filtech
versions, I use Purolator Pure Ones.
Rgds, George Macdonald
"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
02-08-2004, 05:01 PM
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Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...new one looks smaller
On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 09:10:49 -0600, "tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote:
>If there made by Fram which I use why not just buy a Fram at Wal-mart $2.89
>ea.
Well it depends on which Fram part you're talking about but Honda has some
say in the specs for materials and build. See
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/old_filters.shtml for comparisons of
several of the old style filters - the Honda version has a larger inlet
hole area and more filter media than the Frams. That said, I refuse to buy
the Fram-made Honda filters; if the dealer can't or won't get the Filtech
versions, I use Purolator Pure Ones.
Rgds, George Macdonald
"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
>If there made by Fram which I use why not just buy a Fram at Wal-mart $2.89
>ea.
Well it depends on which Fram part you're talking about but Honda has some
say in the specs for materials and build. See
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/old_filters.shtml for comparisons of
several of the old style filters - the Honda version has a larger inlet
hole area and more filter media than the Frams. That said, I refuse to buy
the Fram-made Honda filters; if the dealer can't or won't get the Filtech
versions, I use Purolator Pure Ones.
Rgds, George Macdonald
"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
02-08-2004, 05:01 PM
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Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...new one looks smaller
On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 09:10:49 -0600, "tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote:
>If there made by Fram which I use why not just buy a Fram at Wal-mart $2.89
>ea.
Well it depends on which Fram part you're talking about but Honda has some
say in the specs for materials and build. See
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/old_filters.shtml for comparisons of
several of the old style filters - the Honda version has a larger inlet
hole area and more filter media than the Frams. That said, I refuse to buy
the Fram-made Honda filters; if the dealer can't or won't get the Filtech
versions, I use Purolator Pure Ones.
Rgds, George Macdonald
"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
>If there made by Fram which I use why not just buy a Fram at Wal-mart $2.89
>ea.
Well it depends on which Fram part you're talking about but Honda has some
say in the specs for materials and build. See
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/old_filters.shtml for comparisons of
several of the old style filters - the Honda version has a larger inlet
hole area and more filter media than the Frams. That said, I refuse to buy
the Fram-made Honda filters; if the dealer can't or won't get the Filtech
versions, I use Purolator Pure Ones.
Rgds, George Macdonald
"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
02-08-2004, 07:30 PM
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Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...new one looks smaller
George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> spake unto the
masses in news:nvja205bruf6did79mjk8rv6l1p1en2kru@4ax.com:
> On 6 Feb 2004 20:35:26 GMT, "Tegger®"
> <teggeratistopdotcom@changetheobvious.invalid> wrote:
>
>>George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> spake unto the
>>masses in news:3mp62017l7a3smpum847tfatrmu59b7mk8@4ax.com:
>>
>>> I think it's just more a case of making the dealers happier with a
>>> consolidation of parts, so they don't have to carry more than one
>>> type of oil fiilter.
>>
>>
>>They do this with other parts too. It's called "rationalization".
>>They've done it with the front brake pads for my '91 Integra.
>
> Brake pads? Is this a friction material difference? Surely they
> can't change the size in any way.
Appears to be the friction material difference only (it's a visible
difference as well). This is what the parts guy at my local Acura
dealership tells me, and he's been there for over ten years, so I figure he
must know.
One sudden change that occurred as soon as I installed the new pads was
rotor glazing. This had NEVER happened before the new style of pads. My
driving style has not changed, but now I get some glazing on a portion of
the rotor's surface. The rotors are a few years old.
In the spring I plan to change the rotors and pads at the same time. Maybe
the problem will not appear if the new pads have a chance to bed into new
rotors.
I'm sure the calipers and mount brackets are the same for at least a few
models.
--
TeGGeR®
masses in news:nvja205bruf6did79mjk8rv6l1p1en2kru@4ax.com:
> On 6 Feb 2004 20:35:26 GMT, "Tegger®"
> <teggeratistopdotcom@changetheobvious.invalid> wrote:
>
>>George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> spake unto the
>>masses in news:3mp62017l7a3smpum847tfatrmu59b7mk8@4ax.com:
>>
>>> I think it's just more a case of making the dealers happier with a
>>> consolidation of parts, so they don't have to carry more than one
>>> type of oil fiilter.
>>
>>
>>They do this with other parts too. It's called "rationalization".
>>They've done it with the front brake pads for my '91 Integra.
>
> Brake pads? Is this a friction material difference? Surely they
> can't change the size in any way.
Appears to be the friction material difference only (it's a visible
difference as well). This is what the parts guy at my local Acura
dealership tells me, and he's been there for over ten years, so I figure he
must know.
One sudden change that occurred as soon as I installed the new pads was
rotor glazing. This had NEVER happened before the new style of pads. My
driving style has not changed, but now I get some glazing on a portion of
the rotor's surface. The rotors are a few years old.
In the spring I plan to change the rotors and pads at the same time. Maybe
the problem will not appear if the new pads have a chance to bed into new
rotors.
I'm sure the calipers and mount brackets are the same for at least a few
models.
--
TeGGeR®
02-08-2004, 07:30 PM
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Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...new one looks smaller
George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> spake unto the
masses in news:nvja205bruf6did79mjk8rv6l1p1en2kru@4ax.com:
> On 6 Feb 2004 20:35:26 GMT, "Tegger®"
> <teggeratistopdotcom@changetheobvious.invalid> wrote:
>
>>George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> spake unto the
>>masses in news:3mp62017l7a3smpum847tfatrmu59b7mk8@4ax.com:
>>
>>> I think it's just more a case of making the dealers happier with a
>>> consolidation of parts, so they don't have to carry more than one
>>> type of oil fiilter.
>>
>>
>>They do this with other parts too. It's called "rationalization".
>>They've done it with the front brake pads for my '91 Integra.
>
> Brake pads? Is this a friction material difference? Surely they
> can't change the size in any way.
Appears to be the friction material difference only (it's a visible
difference as well). This is what the parts guy at my local Acura
dealership tells me, and he's been there for over ten years, so I figure he
must know.
One sudden change that occurred as soon as I installed the new pads was
rotor glazing. This had NEVER happened before the new style of pads. My
driving style has not changed, but now I get some glazing on a portion of
the rotor's surface. The rotors are a few years old.
In the spring I plan to change the rotors and pads at the same time. Maybe
the problem will not appear if the new pads have a chance to bed into new
rotors.
I'm sure the calipers and mount brackets are the same for at least a few
models.
--
TeGGeR®
masses in news:nvja205bruf6did79mjk8rv6l1p1en2kru@4ax.com:
> On 6 Feb 2004 20:35:26 GMT, "Tegger®"
> <teggeratistopdotcom@changetheobvious.invalid> wrote:
>
>>George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> spake unto the
>>masses in news:3mp62017l7a3smpum847tfatrmu59b7mk8@4ax.com:
>>
>>> I think it's just more a case of making the dealers happier with a
>>> consolidation of parts, so they don't have to carry more than one
>>> type of oil fiilter.
>>
>>
>>They do this with other parts too. It's called "rationalization".
>>They've done it with the front brake pads for my '91 Integra.
>
> Brake pads? Is this a friction material difference? Surely they
> can't change the size in any way.
Appears to be the friction material difference only (it's a visible
difference as well). This is what the parts guy at my local Acura
dealership tells me, and he's been there for over ten years, so I figure he
must know.
One sudden change that occurred as soon as I installed the new pads was
rotor glazing. This had NEVER happened before the new style of pads. My
driving style has not changed, but now I get some glazing on a portion of
the rotor's surface. The rotors are a few years old.
In the spring I plan to change the rotors and pads at the same time. Maybe
the problem will not appear if the new pads have a chance to bed into new
rotors.
I'm sure the calipers and mount brackets are the same for at least a few
models.
--
TeGGeR®
02-08-2004, 07:30 PM
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Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...new one looks smaller
George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> spake unto the
masses in news:nvja205bruf6did79mjk8rv6l1p1en2kru@4ax.com:
> On 6 Feb 2004 20:35:26 GMT, "Tegger®"
> <teggeratistopdotcom@changetheobvious.invalid> wrote:
>
>>George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> spake unto the
>>masses in news:3mp62017l7a3smpum847tfatrmu59b7mk8@4ax.com:
>>
>>> I think it's just more a case of making the dealers happier with a
>>> consolidation of parts, so they don't have to carry more than one
>>> type of oil fiilter.
>>
>>
>>They do this with other parts too. It's called "rationalization".
>>They've done it with the front brake pads for my '91 Integra.
>
> Brake pads? Is this a friction material difference? Surely they
> can't change the size in any way.
Appears to be the friction material difference only (it's a visible
difference as well). This is what the parts guy at my local Acura
dealership tells me, and he's been there for over ten years, so I figure he
must know.
One sudden change that occurred as soon as I installed the new pads was
rotor glazing. This had NEVER happened before the new style of pads. My
driving style has not changed, but now I get some glazing on a portion of
the rotor's surface. The rotors are a few years old.
In the spring I plan to change the rotors and pads at the same time. Maybe
the problem will not appear if the new pads have a chance to bed into new
rotors.
I'm sure the calipers and mount brackets are the same for at least a few
models.
--
TeGGeR®
masses in news:nvja205bruf6did79mjk8rv6l1p1en2kru@4ax.com:
> On 6 Feb 2004 20:35:26 GMT, "Tegger®"
> <teggeratistopdotcom@changetheobvious.invalid> wrote:
>
>>George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> spake unto the
>>masses in news:3mp62017l7a3smpum847tfatrmu59b7mk8@4ax.com:
>>
>>> I think it's just more a case of making the dealers happier with a
>>> consolidation of parts, so they don't have to carry more than one
>>> type of oil fiilter.
>>
>>
>>They do this with other parts too. It's called "rationalization".
>>They've done it with the front brake pads for my '91 Integra.
>
> Brake pads? Is this a friction material difference? Surely they
> can't change the size in any way.
Appears to be the friction material difference only (it's a visible
difference as well). This is what the parts guy at my local Acura
dealership tells me, and he's been there for over ten years, so I figure he
must know.
One sudden change that occurred as soon as I installed the new pads was
rotor glazing. This had NEVER happened before the new style of pads. My
driving style has not changed, but now I get some glazing on a portion of
the rotor's surface. The rotors are a few years old.
In the spring I plan to change the rotors and pads at the same time. Maybe
the problem will not appear if the new pads have a chance to bed into new
rotors.
I'm sure the calipers and mount brackets are the same for at least a few
models.
--
TeGGeR®
02-08-2004, 07:30 PM
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Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...new one looks smaller
George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> spake unto the
masses in news:nvja205bruf6did79mjk8rv6l1p1en2kru@4ax.com:
> On 6 Feb 2004 20:35:26 GMT, "Tegger®"
> <teggeratistopdotcom@changetheobvious.invalid> wrote:
>
>>George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> spake unto the
>>masses in news:3mp62017l7a3smpum847tfatrmu59b7mk8@4ax.com:
>>
>>> I think it's just more a case of making the dealers happier with a
>>> consolidation of parts, so they don't have to carry more than one
>>> type of oil fiilter.
>>
>>
>>They do this with other parts too. It's called "rationalization".
>>They've done it with the front brake pads for my '91 Integra.
>
> Brake pads? Is this a friction material difference? Surely they
> can't change the size in any way.
Appears to be the friction material difference only (it's a visible
difference as well). This is what the parts guy at my local Acura
dealership tells me, and he's been there for over ten years, so I figure he
must know.
One sudden change that occurred as soon as I installed the new pads was
rotor glazing. This had NEVER happened before the new style of pads. My
driving style has not changed, but now I get some glazing on a portion of
the rotor's surface. The rotors are a few years old.
In the spring I plan to change the rotors and pads at the same time. Maybe
the problem will not appear if the new pads have a chance to bed into new
rotors.
I'm sure the calipers and mount brackets are the same for at least a few
models.
--
TeGGeR®
masses in news:nvja205bruf6did79mjk8rv6l1p1en2kru@4ax.com:
> On 6 Feb 2004 20:35:26 GMT, "Tegger®"
> <teggeratistopdotcom@changetheobvious.invalid> wrote:
>
>>George Macdonald <fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> spake unto the
>>masses in news:3mp62017l7a3smpum847tfatrmu59b7mk8@4ax.com:
>>
>>> I think it's just more a case of making the dealers happier with a
>>> consolidation of parts, so they don't have to carry more than one
>>> type of oil fiilter.
>>
>>
>>They do this with other parts too. It's called "rationalization".
>>They've done it with the front brake pads for my '91 Integra.
>
> Brake pads? Is this a friction material difference? Surely they
> can't change the size in any way.
Appears to be the friction material difference only (it's a visible
difference as well). This is what the parts guy at my local Acura
dealership tells me, and he's been there for over ten years, so I figure he
must know.
One sudden change that occurred as soon as I installed the new pads was
rotor glazing. This had NEVER happened before the new style of pads. My
driving style has not changed, but now I get some glazing on a portion of
the rotor's surface. The rotors are a few years old.
In the spring I plan to change the rotors and pads at the same time. Maybe
the problem will not appear if the new pads have a chance to bed into new
rotors.
I'm sure the calipers and mount brackets are the same for at least a few
models.
--
TeGGeR®
02-08-2004, 07:35 PM
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Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...new one looks smaller
"tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> spake unto the masses in
news:6e7Vb.247$gu2.10478@news.uswest.net:
> If there made by Fram which I use why not just buy a Fram at Wal-mart
> $2.89 ea.
Because all Honda is only using is FRAM's manufacturing facilities. Honda
and other automakers rely on outside suppliers for most of their parts.
Honda has much more strigent (and expensive) requirements for its OEM
products than FRAM has for its own aftermarket products.
The days of a vertically-integrated Ford-type "River Rouge" plant, where
iron ore went in one end and cars went out the other has been dead for many
decades.
http://tinyurl.com/2scnj
--
TeGGeR®
news:6e7Vb.247$gu2.10478@news.uswest.net:
> If there made by Fram which I use why not just buy a Fram at Wal-mart
> $2.89 ea.
Because all Honda is only using is FRAM's manufacturing facilities. Honda
and other automakers rely on outside suppliers for most of their parts.
Honda has much more strigent (and expensive) requirements for its OEM
products than FRAM has for its own aftermarket products.
The days of a vertically-integrated Ford-type "River Rouge" plant, where
iron ore went in one end and cars went out the other has been dead for many
decades.
http://tinyurl.com/2scnj
--
TeGGeR®
02-08-2004, 07:35 PM
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Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...new one looks smaller
"tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> spake unto the masses in
news:6e7Vb.247$gu2.10478@news.uswest.net:
> If there made by Fram which I use why not just buy a Fram at Wal-mart
> $2.89 ea.
Because all Honda is only using is FRAM's manufacturing facilities. Honda
and other automakers rely on outside suppliers for most of their parts.
Honda has much more strigent (and expensive) requirements for its OEM
products than FRAM has for its own aftermarket products.
The days of a vertically-integrated Ford-type "River Rouge" plant, where
iron ore went in one end and cars went out the other has been dead for many
decades.
http://tinyurl.com/2scnj
--
TeGGeR®
news:6e7Vb.247$gu2.10478@news.uswest.net:
> If there made by Fram which I use why not just buy a Fram at Wal-mart
> $2.89 ea.
Because all Honda is only using is FRAM's manufacturing facilities. Honda
and other automakers rely on outside suppliers for most of their parts.
Honda has much more strigent (and expensive) requirements for its OEM
products than FRAM has for its own aftermarket products.
The days of a vertically-integrated Ford-type "River Rouge" plant, where
iron ore went in one end and cars went out the other has been dead for many
decades.
http://tinyurl.com/2scnj
--
TeGGeR®
02-08-2004, 07:35 PM
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Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...new one looks smaller
"tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> spake unto the masses in
news:6e7Vb.247$gu2.10478@news.uswest.net:
> If there made by Fram which I use why not just buy a Fram at Wal-mart
> $2.89 ea.
Because all Honda is only using is FRAM's manufacturing facilities. Honda
and other automakers rely on outside suppliers for most of their parts.
Honda has much more strigent (and expensive) requirements for its OEM
products than FRAM has for its own aftermarket products.
The days of a vertically-integrated Ford-type "River Rouge" plant, where
iron ore went in one end and cars went out the other has been dead for many
decades.
http://tinyurl.com/2scnj
--
TeGGeR®
news:6e7Vb.247$gu2.10478@news.uswest.net:
> If there made by Fram which I use why not just buy a Fram at Wal-mart
> $2.89 ea.
Because all Honda is only using is FRAM's manufacturing facilities. Honda
and other automakers rely on outside suppliers for most of their parts.
Honda has much more strigent (and expensive) requirements for its OEM
products than FRAM has for its own aftermarket products.
The days of a vertically-integrated Ford-type "River Rouge" plant, where
iron ore went in one end and cars went out the other has been dead for many
decades.
http://tinyurl.com/2scnj
--
TeGGeR®
02-08-2004, 07:35 PM
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Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...new one looks smaller
"tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> spake unto the masses in
news:6e7Vb.247$gu2.10478@news.uswest.net:
> If there made by Fram which I use why not just buy a Fram at Wal-mart
> $2.89 ea.
Because all Honda is only using is FRAM's manufacturing facilities. Honda
and other automakers rely on outside suppliers for most of their parts.
Honda has much more strigent (and expensive) requirements for its OEM
products than FRAM has for its own aftermarket products.
The days of a vertically-integrated Ford-type "River Rouge" plant, where
iron ore went in one end and cars went out the other has been dead for many
decades.
http://tinyurl.com/2scnj
--
TeGGeR®
news:6e7Vb.247$gu2.10478@news.uswest.net:
> If there made by Fram which I use why not just buy a Fram at Wal-mart
> $2.89 ea.
Because all Honda is only using is FRAM's manufacturing facilities. Honda
and other automakers rely on outside suppliers for most of their parts.
Honda has much more strigent (and expensive) requirements for its OEM
products than FRAM has for its own aftermarket products.
The days of a vertically-integrated Ford-type "River Rouge" plant, where
iron ore went in one end and cars went out the other has been dead for many
decades.
http://tinyurl.com/2scnj
--
TeGGeR®
02-09-2004, 01:04 AM
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Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...new one looks smaller
George Macdonald wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 09:10:49 -0600, "tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote:
>
>
>>If there made by Fram which I use why not just buy a Fram at Wal-mart $2.89
>>ea.
>
>
> Well it depends on which Fram part you're talking about but Honda has some
> say in the specs for materials and build. See
> http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/old_filters.shtml for comparisons of
> several of the old style filters - the Honda version has a larger inlet
> hole area and more filter media than the Frams. That said, I refuse to buy
> the Fram-made Honda filters; if the dealer can't or won't get the Filtech
> versions, I use Purolator Pure Ones.
I really don't trust the Fram - even with Honda's stricter requirements.
The cardboard endcaps and cheezy bypass valve. I'd use a Champion Labs
filter before that. Champion Labs produce for different brands,
including Mobil 1, Champ, ACDelco (some but not all), Bosch, STP/Deutch,
and Tech2000 (Wal-Mart house brand).
I was able to get 4 of the 15400-PR3-014 (Toyo Roki) filters a couple
of years ago. I probably should have bought more, since the dealer
never had them after that one. Filtech is owned by Toyo Roki BTW.
And slightly off-topic, I just got a Subaru Impreza WRX, and the
it uses a tiny (and more expensive) Toyo Roki. Something about
the standard Subaru filter gets too close to the turbo.
02-09-2004, 01:04 AM
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Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...new one looks smaller
George Macdonald wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 09:10:49 -0600, "tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote:
>
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>>If there made by Fram which I use why not just buy a Fram at Wal-mart $2.89
>>ea.
>
>
> Well it depends on which Fram part you're talking about but Honda has some
> say in the specs for materials and build. See
> http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/old_filters.shtml for comparisons of
> several of the old style filters - the Honda version has a larger inlet
> hole area and more filter media than the Frams. That said, I refuse to buy
> the Fram-made Honda filters; if the dealer can't or won't get the Filtech
> versions, I use Purolator Pure Ones.
I really don't trust the Fram - even with Honda's stricter requirements.
The cardboard endcaps and cheezy bypass valve. I'd use a Champion Labs
filter before that. Champion Labs produce for different brands,
including Mobil 1, Champ, ACDelco (some but not all), Bosch, STP/Deutch,
and Tech2000 (Wal-Mart house brand).
I was able to get 4 of the 15400-PR3-014 (Toyo Roki) filters a couple
of years ago. I probably should have bought more, since the dealer
never had them after that one. Filtech is owned by Toyo Roki BTW.
And slightly off-topic, I just got a Subaru Impreza WRX, and the
it uses a tiny (and more expensive) Toyo Roki. Something about
the standard Subaru filter gets too close to the turbo.
02-09-2004, 01:04 AM
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Re: '03 CR-V Oil filter...new one looks smaller
George Macdonald wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 09:10:49 -0600, "tflfb" <fuksatw@qwest.net> wrote:
>
>
>>If there made by Fram which I use why not just buy a Fram at Wal-mart $2.89
>>ea.
>
>
> Well it depends on which Fram part you're talking about but Honda has some
> say in the specs for materials and build. See
> http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/old_filters.shtml for comparisons of
> several of the old style filters - the Honda version has a larger inlet
> hole area and more filter media than the Frams. That said, I refuse to buy
> the Fram-made Honda filters; if the dealer can't or won't get the Filtech
> versions, I use Purolator Pure Ones.
I really don't trust the Fram - even with Honda's stricter requirements.
The cardboard endcaps and cheezy bypass valve. I'd use a Champion Labs
filter before that. Champion Labs produce for different brands,
including Mobil 1, Champ, ACDelco (some but not all), Bosch, STP/Deutch,
and Tech2000 (Wal-Mart house brand).
I was able to get 4 of the 15400-PR3-014 (Toyo Roki) filters a couple
of years ago. I probably should have bought more, since the dealer
never had them after that one. Filtech is owned by Toyo Roki BTW.
And slightly off-topic, I just got a Subaru Impreza WRX, and the
it uses a tiny (and more expensive) Toyo Roki. Something about
the standard Subaru filter gets too close to the turbo.
