LBJGH

Why don't you find out were the beeping is coming from and yank the wires?

Based on a video clip I saw a while back with the driver falling asleep and
rolling the car I'd suggest just buckling up. You have a family right?


"Ron" <ronami@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9hg6r01b85fquak4o8sbifrccng4ufvpv5@4ax.com...
>
> My 2004 Accord LX has a 'feature', whereby an irritating beep sounds
> every 30 soeconds for as long as the seat belts are not buckled.
> While I do wear the belts most times, this is an irritation when I
> do not.
>
> I thought that disconnecting the buckle switch should stop this
> annoyance (the processor will then 'think' the belt is buckled at
> all times); however, space under the driver seat is very cramped and
> I cannot find the point where that switch is connected to the rest
> of the system.
>
> I asked Honda service to disconnect the switch and was told, rather
> arrogantly, that they will not disable a 'safety feature' (I am not
> sure how harrasing the driver qualifies as a safety feature).
>
> Does a kind soul on this NG have the electrical schematic? If so,
> would you please tell me where is the connector to the driver seat
> belt switch physically located and whether it needs to be
> disconnected or shorted to fool the system into thinking the belt is
> already buckled?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -- Ron
>

LBJGH

Why don't you find out were the beeping is coming from and yank the wires?

Based on a video clip I saw a while back with the driver falling asleep and
rolling the car I'd suggest just buckling up. You have a family right?


"Ron" <ronami@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9hg6r01b85fquak4o8sbifrccng4ufvpv5@4ax.com...
>
> My 2004 Accord LX has a 'feature', whereby an irritating beep sounds
> every 30 soeconds for as long as the seat belts are not buckled.
> While I do wear the belts most times, this is an irritation when I
> do not.
>
> I thought that disconnecting the buckle switch should stop this
> annoyance (the processor will then 'think' the belt is buckled at
> all times); however, space under the driver seat is very cramped and
> I cannot find the point where that switch is connected to the rest
> of the system.
>
> I asked Honda service to disconnect the switch and was told, rather
> arrogantly, that they will not disable a 'safety feature' (I am not
> sure how harrasing the driver qualifies as a safety feature).
>
> Does a kind soul on this NG have the electrical schematic? If so,
> would you please tell me where is the connector to the driver seat
> belt switch physically located and whether it needs to be
> disconnected or shorted to fool the system into thinking the belt is
> already buckled?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -- Ron
>

disallow

My 98 has no such beeping, just the annoying red light on
the dash. HOWEVER, my friend had a Ford Ranger with this
annoying feature. He defeated it by pushing the seat belt
release button when it started beeping at him. For some
reason, it wouldn't beep at him after that, until he stopped
the motor, and restarted.

Not sure if this is applicable to hondas, but worth a try...

t

disallow

My 98 has no such beeping, just the annoying red light on
the dash. HOWEVER, my friend had a Ford Ranger with this
annoying feature. He defeated it by pushing the seat belt
release button when it started beeping at him. For some
reason, it wouldn't beep at him after that, until he stopped
the motor, and restarted.

Not sure if this is applicable to hondas, but worth a try...

t

Ron

On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 11:12:21 -0500, "disallow" <loewen_t at yahoo.ca
@> wrote:

>My 98 has no such beeping, just the annoying red light on
>the dash. HOWEVER, my friend had a Ford Ranger with this
>annoying feature. He defeated it by pushing the seat belt
>release button when it started beeping at him. For some
>reason, it wouldn't beep at him after that, until he stopped
>the motor, and restarted.
>
>Not sure if this is applicable to hondas, but worth a try...
>

Thanks for the suggestion. I've been told that this worked for an
older Honda and tried it on mine. It didn't work :-).

-- Ron

Ron

On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 11:12:21 -0500, "disallow" <loewen_t at yahoo.ca
@> wrote:

>My 98 has no such beeping, just the annoying red light on
>the dash. HOWEVER, my friend had a Ford Ranger with this
>annoying feature. He defeated it by pushing the seat belt
>release button when it started beeping at him. For some
>reason, it wouldn't beep at him after that, until he stopped
>the motor, and restarted.
>
>Not sure if this is applicable to hondas, but worth a try...
>

Thanks for the suggestion. I've been told that this worked for an
older Honda and tried it on mine. It didn't work :-).

-- Ron

Ron

On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 20:49:28 -0500, "LBJGH" <bite_mee@hotsnail.back>
wrote:

>Why don't you find out were the beeping is coming from and yank the wires?

As unbelievable as it is, the thought crossed my mind... Problem is
that I would lose all other alert functions, such as key in lock,
etc..

It seems that disconnecting (or shorting, depending on the design)
the buckle switch is the best way to solve the problem, though
getting a single beep, as in other cars, is the ideal approach.

>Based on a video clip I saw a while back with the driver falling asleep and
>rolling the car I'd suggest just buckling up. You have a family right?

Look... I asked for simple help from anyone that happens to know
-- or has the schematic -- of a connector location. Instead, I get a
barrage of posturing from people that can't or won't help, but feel
the urge to tell me how I should drive. Well, thanks a lot, guys,
but I don't need either you or Honda to do that.

FYI ('your' in the plural) , if someone decided to fall asleep at
the wheel with their family in the back seat, they would do it with
the belt on or off, with the beep on or off.

Also FYI, in the 1974 time frame some government control freak moron
decided to require ingnition lock unless belts are buckled. IIRC,
this was revoked the following year aftercausing a number of deaths.

Also, FYI, the issue of seat belts is not as simple asa all that. At
low speed, seat belts are useless. Worse -- in some types of
accidents, seat belts can kill (and have killed). Yes,
statistically, one is better off wearing them, but try and tell a
family whose loved one has been killed by a seat belt that it is all
right, because it has saved someone else's life.

Peace,

-- Ron



>
>"Ron" <ronami@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:9hg6r01b85fquak4o8sbifrccng4ufvpv5@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> My 2004 Accord LX has a 'feature', whereby an irritating beep sounds
>> every 30 soeconds for as long as the seat belts are not buckled.
>> While I do wear the belts most times, this is an irritation when I
>> do not.
>>
>> I thought that disconnecting the buckle switch should stop this
>> annoyance (the processor will then 'think' the belt is buckled at
>> all times); however, space under the driver seat is very cramped and
>> I cannot find the point where that switch is connected to the rest
>> of the system.
>>
>> I asked Honda service to disconnect the switch and was told, rather
>> arrogantly, that they will not disable a 'safety feature' (I am not
>> sure how harrasing the driver qualifies as a safety feature).
>>
>> Does a kind soul on this NG have the electrical schematic? If so,
>> would you please tell me where is the connector to the driver seat
>> belt switch physically located and whether it needs to be
>> disconnected or shorted to fool the system into thinking the belt is
>> already buckled?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> -- Ron
>>
>

Ron

On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 20:49:28 -0500, "LBJGH" <bite_mee@hotsnail.back>
wrote:

>Why don't you find out were the beeping is coming from and yank the wires?

As unbelievable as it is, the thought crossed my mind... Problem is
that I would lose all other alert functions, such as key in lock,
etc..

It seems that disconnecting (or shorting, depending on the design)
the buckle switch is the best way to solve the problem, though
getting a single beep, as in other cars, is the ideal approach.

>Based on a video clip I saw a while back with the driver falling asleep and
>rolling the car I'd suggest just buckling up. You have a family right?

Look... I asked for simple help from anyone that happens to know
-- or has the schematic -- of a connector location. Instead, I get a
barrage of posturing from people that can't or won't help, but feel
the urge to tell me how I should drive. Well, thanks a lot, guys,
but I don't need either you or Honda to do that.

FYI ('your' in the plural) , if someone decided to fall asleep at
the wheel with their family in the back seat, they would do it with
the belt on or off, with the beep on or off.

Also FYI, in the 1974 time frame some government control freak moron
decided to require ingnition lock unless belts are buckled. IIRC,
this was revoked the following year aftercausing a number of deaths.

Also, FYI, the issue of seat belts is not as simple asa all that. At
low speed, seat belts are useless. Worse -- in some types of
accidents, seat belts can kill (and have killed). Yes,
statistically, one is better off wearing them, but try and tell a
family whose loved one has been killed by a seat belt that it is all
right, because it has saved someone else's life.

Peace,

-- Ron



>
>"Ron" <ronami@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:9hg6r01b85fquak4o8sbifrccng4ufvpv5@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> My 2004 Accord LX has a 'feature', whereby an irritating beep sounds
>> every 30 soeconds for as long as the seat belts are not buckled.
>> While I do wear the belts most times, this is an irritation when I
>> do not.
>>
>> I thought that disconnecting the buckle switch should stop this
>> annoyance (the processor will then 'think' the belt is buckled at
>> all times); however, space under the driver seat is very cramped and
>> I cannot find the point where that switch is connected to the rest
>> of the system.
>>
>> I asked Honda service to disconnect the switch and was told, rather
>> arrogantly, that they will not disable a 'safety feature' (I am not
>> sure how harrasing the driver qualifies as a safety feature).
>>
>> Does a kind soul on this NG have the electrical schematic? If so,
>> would you please tell me where is the connector to the driver seat
>> belt switch physically located and whether it needs to be
>> disconnected or shorted to fool the system into thinking the belt is
>> already buckled?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> -- Ron
>>
>

GS

What I've been thinking about is getting a buckle from a junked car and
plugging it in when I want.


"Ron" <ronami@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8479r0dqtnptp5ql74q1pcgruob9bddc0a@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 20:49:28 -0500, "LBJGH" <bite_mee@hotsnail.back>
> wrote:
>
> >Why don't you find out were the beeping is coming from and yank the
wires?
>
> As unbelievable as it is, the thought crossed my mind... Problem is
> that I would lose all other alert functions, such as key in lock,
> etc..
>
> It seems that disconnecting (or shorting, depending on the design)
> the buckle switch is the best way to solve the problem, though
> getting a single beep, as in other cars, is the ideal approach.
>
> >Based on a video clip I saw a while back with the driver falling asleep
and
> >rolling the car I'd suggest just buckling up. You have a family right?
>
> Look... I asked for simple help from anyone that happens to know
> -- or has the schematic -- of a connector location. Instead, I get a
> barrage of posturing from people that can't or won't help, but feel
> the urge to tell me how I should drive. Well, thanks a lot, guys,
> but I don't need either you or Honda to do that.
>
> FYI ('your' in the plural) , if someone decided to fall asleep at
> the wheel with their family in the back seat, they would do it with
> the belt on or off, with the beep on or off.
>
> Also FYI, in the 1974 time frame some government control freak moron
> decided to require ingnition lock unless belts are buckled. IIRC,
> this was revoked the following year aftercausing a number of deaths.
>
> Also, FYI, the issue of seat belts is not as simple asa all that. At
> low speed, seat belts are useless. Worse -- in some types of
> accidents, seat belts can kill (and have killed). Yes,
> statistically, one is better off wearing them, but try and tell a
> family whose loved one has been killed by a seat belt that it is all
> right, because it has saved someone else's life.
>
> Peace,
>
> -- Ron
>
>
>
> >
> >"Ron" <ronami@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:9hg6r01b85fquak4o8sbifrccng4ufvpv5@4ax.com.. .
> >>
> >> My 2004 Accord LX has a 'feature', whereby an irritating beep sounds
> >> every 30 soeconds for as long as the seat belts are not buckled.
> >> While I do wear the belts most times, this is an irritation when I
> >> do not.
> >>
> >> I thought that disconnecting the buckle switch should stop this
> >> annoyance (the processor will then 'think' the belt is buckled at
> >> all times); however, space under the driver seat is very cramped and
> >> I cannot find the point where that switch is connected to the rest
> >> of the system.
> >>
> >> I asked Honda service to disconnect the switch and was told, rather
> >> arrogantly, that they will not disable a 'safety feature' (I am not
> >> sure how harrasing the driver qualifies as a safety feature).
> >>
> >> Does a kind soul on this NG have the electrical schematic? If so,
> >> would you please tell me where is the connector to the driver seat
> >> belt switch physically located and whether it needs to be
> >> disconnected or shorted to fool the system into thinking the belt is
> >> already buckled?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >>
> >> -- Ron
> >>
> >
>

GS

What I've been thinking about is getting a buckle from a junked car and
plugging it in when I want.


"Ron" <ronami@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8479r0dqtnptp5ql74q1pcgruob9bddc0a@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 20:49:28 -0500, "LBJGH" <bite_mee@hotsnail.back>
> wrote:
>
> >Why don't you find out were the beeping is coming from and yank the
wires?
>
> As unbelievable as it is, the thought crossed my mind... Problem is
> that I would lose all other alert functions, such as key in lock,
> etc..
>
> It seems that disconnecting (or shorting, depending on the design)
> the buckle switch is the best way to solve the problem, though
> getting a single beep, as in other cars, is the ideal approach.
>
> >Based on a video clip I saw a while back with the driver falling asleep
and
> >rolling the car I'd suggest just buckling up. You have a family right?
>
> Look... I asked for simple help from anyone that happens to know
> -- or has the schematic -- of a connector location. Instead, I get a
> barrage of posturing from people that can't or won't help, but feel
> the urge to tell me how I should drive. Well, thanks a lot, guys,
> but I don't need either you or Honda to do that.
>
> FYI ('your' in the plural) , if someone decided to fall asleep at
> the wheel with their family in the back seat, they would do it with
> the belt on or off, with the beep on or off.
>
> Also FYI, in the 1974 time frame some government control freak moron
> decided to require ingnition lock unless belts are buckled. IIRC,
> this was revoked the following year aftercausing a number of deaths.
>
> Also, FYI, the issue of seat belts is not as simple asa all that. At
> low speed, seat belts are useless. Worse -- in some types of
> accidents, seat belts can kill (and have killed). Yes,
> statistically, one is better off wearing them, but try and tell a
> family whose loved one has been killed by a seat belt that it is all
> right, because it has saved someone else's life.
>
> Peace,
>
> -- Ron
>
>
>
> >
> >"Ron" <ronami@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:9hg6r01b85fquak4o8sbifrccng4ufvpv5@4ax.com.. .
> >>
> >> My 2004 Accord LX has a 'feature', whereby an irritating beep sounds
> >> every 30 soeconds for as long as the seat belts are not buckled.
> >> While I do wear the belts most times, this is an irritation when I
> >> do not.
> >>
> >> I thought that disconnecting the buckle switch should stop this
> >> annoyance (the processor will then 'think' the belt is buckled at
> >> all times); however, space under the driver seat is very cramped and
> >> I cannot find the point where that switch is connected to the rest
> >> of the system.
> >>
> >> I asked Honda service to disconnect the switch and was told, rather
> >> arrogantly, that they will not disable a 'safety feature' (I am not
> >> sure how harrasing the driver qualifies as a safety feature).
> >>
> >> Does a kind soul on this NG have the electrical schematic? If so,
> >> would you please tell me where is the connector to the driver seat
> >> belt switch physically located and whether it needs to be
> >> disconnected or shorted to fool the system into thinking the belt is
> >> already buckled?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >>
> >> -- Ron
> >>
> >
>

a

GS wrote:
> What I've been thinking about is getting a buckle from a junked car and
> plugging it in when I want.
>
>

hey, that'll work! Kinda like plugging the door switch of the microwave
with a Popsicle stick so you can cook stuff with the door open...

a

a

GS wrote:
> What I've been thinking about is getting a buckle from a junked car and
> plugging it in when I want.
>
>

hey, that'll work! Kinda like plugging the door switch of the microwave
with a Popsicle stick so you can cook stuff with the door open...

a

Net-Doctor

On the other hand Ron, I have to admit to being guilty as well. I have
held off buying a new mower, partly because I couldn't stand it if the motor
died everytime I let go of that stupid handle thing. In my mind, THAT would
be annoying. I think I would probably wrap it with a cable tie on day one.
Good luck with your seatbelt issue.

Doc (who "Doesn't practice what he preaches." )


> >My 98 has no such beeping, just the annoying red light on
> >the dash. HOWEVER, my friend had a Ford Ranger with this
> >annoying feature. He defeated it by pushing the seat belt
> >release button when it started beeping at him. For some
> >reason, it wouldn't beep at him after that, until he stopped
> >the motor, and restarted.
> >
> >Not sure if this is applicable to hondas, but worth a try...
> >
>
> Thanks for the suggestion. I've been told that this worked for an
> older Honda and tried it on mine. It didn't work :-).
>
> -- Ron
>
>

Net-Doctor

On the other hand Ron, I have to admit to being guilty as well. I have
held off buying a new mower, partly because I couldn't stand it if the motor
died everytime I let go of that stupid handle thing. In my mind, THAT would
be annoying. I think I would probably wrap it with a cable tie on day one.
Good luck with your seatbelt issue.

Doc (who "Doesn't practice what he preaches." )


> >My 98 has no such beeping, just the annoying red light on
> >the dash. HOWEVER, my friend had a Ford Ranger with this
> >annoying feature. He defeated it by pushing the seat belt
> >release button when it started beeping at him. For some
> >reason, it wouldn't beep at him after that, until he stopped
> >the motor, and restarted.
> >
> >Not sure if this is applicable to hondas, but worth a try...
> >
>
> Thanks for the suggestion. I've been told that this worked for an
> older Honda and tried it on mine. It didn't work :-).
>
> -- Ron
>
>

LBJGH

There is a sequence of switching the ignition on and off and
clipping/unclipping the seat belt outlined in the ford user manual.

P.S. Ron, I did a quick search and found this response to your problem:

I think I got it.....I found an old spackle knife in the garage and traced
the outline of the metal part of the seatbelt onto the blade...From there, I
grinded away the excess all the way to the tracing using an 8 in shop
grinder...The cutout in the middle was a little bit tricky....I used a
dremel tool with a disc cutting wheel than smoothed out the edges with the
little drum attachment. Finally. I cut the handle down to size and left
about an inch to which I covered in black electrical tape..When inserted,
you can hardly notice it and it works like a charm!!!! Thanks for all the
replies, good and bad...LOL I never intended to start a pissing contest
here....Peace...Mike


"disallow" <loewen_t at yahoo.ca @> wrote in message
news:6fc227741ca40057a103a2ad301d78b8@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> My 98 has no such beeping, just the annoying red light on
> the dash. HOWEVER, my friend had a Ford Ranger with this
> annoying feature. He defeated it by pushing the seat belt
> release button when it started beeping at him. For some
> reason, it wouldn't beep at him after that, until he stopped
> the motor, and restarted.
>
> Not sure if this is applicable to hondas, but worth a try...
>
> t
>