Accord LX seat belt signal hassle
12-07-2004, 07:45 PM
#31
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Re: Accord LX seat belt signal hassle
There is a sequence of switching the ignition on and off and
clipping/unclipping the seat belt outlined in the ford user manual.
P.S. Ron, I did a quick search and found this response to your problem:
I think I got it.....I found an old spackle knife in the garage and traced
the outline of the metal part of the seatbelt onto the blade...From there, I
grinded away the excess all the way to the tracing using an 8 in shop
grinder...The cutout in the middle was a little bit tricky....I used a
dremel tool with a disc cutting wheel than smoothed out the edges with the
little drum attachment. Finally. I cut the handle down to size and left
about an inch to which I covered in black electrical tape..When inserted,
you can hardly notice it and it works like a charm!!!! Thanks for all the
replies, good and bad...LOL I never intended to start a pissing contest
here....Peace...Mike
"disallow" <loewen_t at yahoo.ca @> wrote in message
news:6fc227741ca40057a103a2ad301d78b8@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> My 98 has no such beeping, just the annoying red light on
> the dash. HOWEVER, my friend had a Ford Ranger with this
> annoying feature. He defeated it by pushing the seat belt
> release button when it started beeping at him. For some
> reason, it wouldn't beep at him after that, until he stopped
> the motor, and restarted.
>
> Not sure if this is applicable to hondas, but worth a try...
>
> t
>
clipping/unclipping the seat belt outlined in the ford user manual.
P.S. Ron, I did a quick search and found this response to your problem:
I think I got it.....I found an old spackle knife in the garage and traced
the outline of the metal part of the seatbelt onto the blade...From there, I
grinded away the excess all the way to the tracing using an 8 in shop
grinder...The cutout in the middle was a little bit tricky....I used a
dremel tool with a disc cutting wheel than smoothed out the edges with the
little drum attachment. Finally. I cut the handle down to size and left
about an inch to which I covered in black electrical tape..When inserted,
you can hardly notice it and it works like a charm!!!! Thanks for all the
replies, good and bad...LOL I never intended to start a pissing contest
here....Peace...Mike
"disallow" <loewen_t at yahoo.ca @> wrote in message
news:6fc227741ca40057a103a2ad301d78b8@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> My 98 has no such beeping, just the annoying red light on
> the dash. HOWEVER, my friend had a Ford Ranger with this
> annoying feature. He defeated it by pushing the seat belt
> release button when it started beeping at him. For some
> reason, it wouldn't beep at him after that, until he stopped
> the motor, and restarted.
>
> Not sure if this is applicable to hondas, but worth a try...
>
> t
>
12-07-2004, 09:58 PM
#32
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Re: Accord LX seat belt signal hassle
On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 23:21:28 GMT, "Net-Doctor"
<bgreene1@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
> On the other hand Ron, I have to admit to being guilty as well. I have
>held off buying a new mower, partly because I couldn't stand it if the motor
>died everytime I let go of that stupid handle thing. In my mind, THAT would
>be annoying. I think I would probably wrap it with a cable tie on day one.
....as many users do. Personally, I prefer the blade to stop, so
bought a Honda mower with a blade clutch. Rather than cut the
engine, it disengages the blade. Offers better safety, too, since
the blade stops in about 1 Second, vs. 2 or 3 Seconds for the type
that cuts the engine.
Of course, this has nothing to do with the Honda (car, not mower)
seat belt switch. I am not seeking to disable the belt, just to stop
the annoying beep. The beeping 'feature' has NOTHING to do with
safety. If anything, it reduces safety, by irritating the driver.
Havr a nice day,
-- Ron
> Good luck with your seatbelt issue.
>
> Doc (who "Doesn't practice what he preaches." )
>
>
>> >My 98 has no such beeping, just the annoying red light on
>> >the dash. HOWEVER, my friend had a Ford Ranger with this
>> >annoying feature. He defeated it by pushing the seat belt
>> >release button when it started beeping at him. For some
>> >reason, it wouldn't beep at him after that, until he stopped
>> >the motor, and restarted.
>> >
>> >Not sure if this is applicable to hondas, but worth a try...
>> >
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion. I've been told that this worked for an
>> older Honda and tried it on mine. It didn't work :-).
>>
>> -- Ron
>>
>>
>
<bgreene1@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
> On the other hand Ron, I have to admit to being guilty as well. I have
>held off buying a new mower, partly because I couldn't stand it if the motor
>died everytime I let go of that stupid handle thing. In my mind, THAT would
>be annoying. I think I would probably wrap it with a cable tie on day one.
....as many users do. Personally, I prefer the blade to stop, so
bought a Honda mower with a blade clutch. Rather than cut the
engine, it disengages the blade. Offers better safety, too, since
the blade stops in about 1 Second, vs. 2 or 3 Seconds for the type
that cuts the engine.
Of course, this has nothing to do with the Honda (car, not mower)
seat belt switch. I am not seeking to disable the belt, just to stop
the annoying beep. The beeping 'feature' has NOTHING to do with
safety. If anything, it reduces safety, by irritating the driver.
Havr a nice day,
-- Ron
> Good luck with your seatbelt issue.
>
> Doc (who "Doesn't practice what he preaches." )
>
>
>> >My 98 has no such beeping, just the annoying red light on
>> >the dash. HOWEVER, my friend had a Ford Ranger with this
>> >annoying feature. He defeated it by pushing the seat belt
>> >release button when it started beeping at him. For some
>> >reason, it wouldn't beep at him after that, until he stopped
>> >the motor, and restarted.
>> >
>> >Not sure if this is applicable to hondas, but worth a try...
>> >
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion. I've been told that this worked for an
>> older Honda and tried it on mine. It didn't work :-).
>>
>> -- Ron
>>
>>
>
12-07-2004, 09:58 PM
#33
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Re: Accord LX seat belt signal hassle
On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 23:21:28 GMT, "Net-Doctor"
<bgreene1@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
> On the other hand Ron, I have to admit to being guilty as well. I have
>held off buying a new mower, partly because I couldn't stand it if the motor
>died everytime I let go of that stupid handle thing. In my mind, THAT would
>be annoying. I think I would probably wrap it with a cable tie on day one.
....as many users do. Personally, I prefer the blade to stop, so
bought a Honda mower with a blade clutch. Rather than cut the
engine, it disengages the blade. Offers better safety, too, since
the blade stops in about 1 Second, vs. 2 or 3 Seconds for the type
that cuts the engine.
Of course, this has nothing to do with the Honda (car, not mower)
seat belt switch. I am not seeking to disable the belt, just to stop
the annoying beep. The beeping 'feature' has NOTHING to do with
safety. If anything, it reduces safety, by irritating the driver.
Havr a nice day,
-- Ron
> Good luck with your seatbelt issue.
>
> Doc (who "Doesn't practice what he preaches." )
>
>
>> >My 98 has no such beeping, just the annoying red light on
>> >the dash. HOWEVER, my friend had a Ford Ranger with this
>> >annoying feature. He defeated it by pushing the seat belt
>> >release button when it started beeping at him. For some
>> >reason, it wouldn't beep at him after that, until he stopped
>> >the motor, and restarted.
>> >
>> >Not sure if this is applicable to hondas, but worth a try...
>> >
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion. I've been told that this worked for an
>> older Honda and tried it on mine. It didn't work :-).
>>
>> -- Ron
>>
>>
>
<bgreene1@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
> On the other hand Ron, I have to admit to being guilty as well. I have
>held off buying a new mower, partly because I couldn't stand it if the motor
>died everytime I let go of that stupid handle thing. In my mind, THAT would
>be annoying. I think I would probably wrap it with a cable tie on day one.
....as many users do. Personally, I prefer the blade to stop, so
bought a Honda mower with a blade clutch. Rather than cut the
engine, it disengages the blade. Offers better safety, too, since
the blade stops in about 1 Second, vs. 2 or 3 Seconds for the type
that cuts the engine.
Of course, this has nothing to do with the Honda (car, not mower)
seat belt switch. I am not seeking to disable the belt, just to stop
the annoying beep. The beeping 'feature' has NOTHING to do with
safety. If anything, it reduces safety, by irritating the driver.
Havr a nice day,
-- Ron
> Good luck with your seatbelt issue.
>
> Doc (who "Doesn't practice what he preaches." )
>
>
>> >My 98 has no such beeping, just the annoying red light on
>> >the dash. HOWEVER, my friend had a Ford Ranger with this
>> >annoying feature. He defeated it by pushing the seat belt
>> >release button when it started beeping at him. For some
>> >reason, it wouldn't beep at him after that, until he stopped
>> >the motor, and restarted.
>> >
>> >Not sure if this is applicable to hondas, but worth a try...
>> >
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion. I've been told that this worked for an
>> older Honda and tried it on mine. It didn't work :-).
>>
>> -- Ron
>>
>>
>
12-08-2004, 07:41 AM
#34
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Re: Accord LX seat belt signal hassle
On 12/7/2004 8:58 PM Ron spake these words of knowledge:
> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 23:21:28 GMT, "Net-Doctor"
> <bgreene1@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> On the other hand Ron, I have to admit to being guilty as well. I have
>>held off buying a new mower, partly because I couldn't stand it if the motor
>>died everytime I let go of that stupid handle thing. In my mind, THAT would
>>be annoying. I think I would probably wrap it with a cable tie on day one.
>
> ...as many users do. Personally, I prefer the blade to stop, so
> bought a Honda mower with a blade clutch. Rather than cut the
> engine, it disengages the blade. Offers better safety, too, since
> the blade stops in about 1 Second, vs. 2 or 3 Seconds for the type
> that cuts the engine.
>
> Of course, this has nothing to do with the Honda (car, not mower)
> seat belt switch. I am not seeking to disable the belt, just to stop
> the annoying beep. The beeping 'feature' has NOTHING to do with
> safety. If anything, it reduces safety, by irritating the driver.
>
> Havr a nice day,
>
> -- Ron
That's simply disingenuous. If you're using the seatbelt properly
(which certainly does have something to do with safety), there *is* no
beeping feature.
RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
.... Personally, I like my flying brains dark and evil.
> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 23:21:28 GMT, "Net-Doctor"
> <bgreene1@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> On the other hand Ron, I have to admit to being guilty as well. I have
>>held off buying a new mower, partly because I couldn't stand it if the motor
>>died everytime I let go of that stupid handle thing. In my mind, THAT would
>>be annoying. I think I would probably wrap it with a cable tie on day one.
>
> ...as many users do. Personally, I prefer the blade to stop, so
> bought a Honda mower with a blade clutch. Rather than cut the
> engine, it disengages the blade. Offers better safety, too, since
> the blade stops in about 1 Second, vs. 2 or 3 Seconds for the type
> that cuts the engine.
>
> Of course, this has nothing to do with the Honda (car, not mower)
> seat belt switch. I am not seeking to disable the belt, just to stop
> the annoying beep. The beeping 'feature' has NOTHING to do with
> safety. If anything, it reduces safety, by irritating the driver.
>
> Havr a nice day,
>
> -- Ron
That's simply disingenuous. If you're using the seatbelt properly
(which certainly does have something to do with safety), there *is* no
beeping feature.
RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
.... Personally, I like my flying brains dark and evil.
12-08-2004, 07:41 AM
#35
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Re: Accord LX seat belt signal hassle
On 12/7/2004 8:58 PM Ron spake these words of knowledge:
> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 23:21:28 GMT, "Net-Doctor"
> <bgreene1@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> On the other hand Ron, I have to admit to being guilty as well. I have
>>held off buying a new mower, partly because I couldn't stand it if the motor
>>died everytime I let go of that stupid handle thing. In my mind, THAT would
>>be annoying. I think I would probably wrap it with a cable tie on day one.
>
> ...as many users do. Personally, I prefer the blade to stop, so
> bought a Honda mower with a blade clutch. Rather than cut the
> engine, it disengages the blade. Offers better safety, too, since
> the blade stops in about 1 Second, vs. 2 or 3 Seconds for the type
> that cuts the engine.
>
> Of course, this has nothing to do with the Honda (car, not mower)
> seat belt switch. I am not seeking to disable the belt, just to stop
> the annoying beep. The beeping 'feature' has NOTHING to do with
> safety. If anything, it reduces safety, by irritating the driver.
>
> Havr a nice day,
>
> -- Ron
That's simply disingenuous. If you're using the seatbelt properly
(which certainly does have something to do with safety), there *is* no
beeping feature.
RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
.... Personally, I like my flying brains dark and evil.
> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 23:21:28 GMT, "Net-Doctor"
> <bgreene1@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> On the other hand Ron, I have to admit to being guilty as well. I have
>>held off buying a new mower, partly because I couldn't stand it if the motor
>>died everytime I let go of that stupid handle thing. In my mind, THAT would
>>be annoying. I think I would probably wrap it with a cable tie on day one.
>
> ...as many users do. Personally, I prefer the blade to stop, so
> bought a Honda mower with a blade clutch. Rather than cut the
> engine, it disengages the blade. Offers better safety, too, since
> the blade stops in about 1 Second, vs. 2 or 3 Seconds for the type
> that cuts the engine.
>
> Of course, this has nothing to do with the Honda (car, not mower)
> seat belt switch. I am not seeking to disable the belt, just to stop
> the annoying beep. The beeping 'feature' has NOTHING to do with
> safety. If anything, it reduces safety, by irritating the driver.
>
> Havr a nice day,
>
> -- Ron
That's simply disingenuous. If you're using the seatbelt properly
(which certainly does have something to do with safety), there *is* no
beeping feature.
RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
.... Personally, I like my flying brains dark and evil.
12-08-2004, 09:40 AM
#36
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Re: Accord LX seat belt signal hassle
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 12:41:28 GMT, Dave Kelsen
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>On 12/7/2004 8:58 PM Ron spake these words of knowledge:
>
>> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 23:21:28 GMT, "Net-Doctor"
>> <bgreene1@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On the other hand Ron, I have to admit to being guilty as well. I have
>>>held off buying a new mower, partly because I couldn't stand it if the motor
>>>died everytime I let go of that stupid handle thing. In my mind, THAT would
>>>be annoying. I think I would probably wrap it with a cable tie on day one.
>>
>> ...as many users do. Personally, I prefer the blade to stop, so
>> bought a Honda mower with a blade clutch. Rather than cut the
>> engine, it disengages the blade. Offers better safety, too, since
>> the blade stops in about 1 Second, vs. 2 or 3 Seconds for the type
>> that cuts the engine.
>>
>> Of course, this has nothing to do with the Honda (car, not mower)
>> seat belt switch. I am not seeking to disable the belt, just to stop
>> the annoying beep. The beeping 'feature' has NOTHING to do with
>> safety. If anything, it reduces safety, by irritating the driver.
>>
>> Havr a nice day,
>>
>> -- Ron
>
>That's simply disingenuous. If you're using the seatbelt properly
>(which certainly does have something to do with safety), there *is* no
>beeping feature.
But when I am not, there *is* a beep, that adds nothing to safety
and, if fact, may detract from it.
Suppose that, if you did not use the belt, a club would come out and
hit you on the head, once every 30 seconds. Would *that* be a
'safety feature?
The seat belt is a safety feature. The beep is not.
-- Ron
>
>
>RFT!!!
>Dave Kelsen
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>On 12/7/2004 8:58 PM Ron spake these words of knowledge:
>
>> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 23:21:28 GMT, "Net-Doctor"
>> <bgreene1@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On the other hand Ron, I have to admit to being guilty as well. I have
>>>held off buying a new mower, partly because I couldn't stand it if the motor
>>>died everytime I let go of that stupid handle thing. In my mind, THAT would
>>>be annoying. I think I would probably wrap it with a cable tie on day one.
>>
>> ...as many users do. Personally, I prefer the blade to stop, so
>> bought a Honda mower with a blade clutch. Rather than cut the
>> engine, it disengages the blade. Offers better safety, too, since
>> the blade stops in about 1 Second, vs. 2 or 3 Seconds for the type
>> that cuts the engine.
>>
>> Of course, this has nothing to do with the Honda (car, not mower)
>> seat belt switch. I am not seeking to disable the belt, just to stop
>> the annoying beep. The beeping 'feature' has NOTHING to do with
>> safety. If anything, it reduces safety, by irritating the driver.
>>
>> Havr a nice day,
>>
>> -- Ron
>
>That's simply disingenuous. If you're using the seatbelt properly
>(which certainly does have something to do with safety), there *is* no
>beeping feature.
But when I am not, there *is* a beep, that adds nothing to safety
and, if fact, may detract from it.
Suppose that, if you did not use the belt, a club would come out and
hit you on the head, once every 30 seconds. Would *that* be a
'safety feature?
The seat belt is a safety feature. The beep is not.
-- Ron
>
>
>RFT!!!
>Dave Kelsen
12-08-2004, 09:40 AM
#37
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Re: Accord LX seat belt signal hassle
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 12:41:28 GMT, Dave Kelsen
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>On 12/7/2004 8:58 PM Ron spake these words of knowledge:
>
>> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 23:21:28 GMT, "Net-Doctor"
>> <bgreene1@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On the other hand Ron, I have to admit to being guilty as well. I have
>>>held off buying a new mower, partly because I couldn't stand it if the motor
>>>died everytime I let go of that stupid handle thing. In my mind, THAT would
>>>be annoying. I think I would probably wrap it with a cable tie on day one.
>>
>> ...as many users do. Personally, I prefer the blade to stop, so
>> bought a Honda mower with a blade clutch. Rather than cut the
>> engine, it disengages the blade. Offers better safety, too, since
>> the blade stops in about 1 Second, vs. 2 or 3 Seconds for the type
>> that cuts the engine.
>>
>> Of course, this has nothing to do with the Honda (car, not mower)
>> seat belt switch. I am not seeking to disable the belt, just to stop
>> the annoying beep. The beeping 'feature' has NOTHING to do with
>> safety. If anything, it reduces safety, by irritating the driver.
>>
>> Havr a nice day,
>>
>> -- Ron
>
>That's simply disingenuous. If you're using the seatbelt properly
>(which certainly does have something to do with safety), there *is* no
>beeping feature.
But when I am not, there *is* a beep, that adds nothing to safety
and, if fact, may detract from it.
Suppose that, if you did not use the belt, a club would come out and
hit you on the head, once every 30 seconds. Would *that* be a
'safety feature?
The seat belt is a safety feature. The beep is not.
-- Ron
>
>
>RFT!!!
>Dave Kelsen
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>On 12/7/2004 8:58 PM Ron spake these words of knowledge:
>
>> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 23:21:28 GMT, "Net-Doctor"
>> <bgreene1@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On the other hand Ron, I have to admit to being guilty as well. I have
>>>held off buying a new mower, partly because I couldn't stand it if the motor
>>>died everytime I let go of that stupid handle thing. In my mind, THAT would
>>>be annoying. I think I would probably wrap it with a cable tie on day one.
>>
>> ...as many users do. Personally, I prefer the blade to stop, so
>> bought a Honda mower with a blade clutch. Rather than cut the
>> engine, it disengages the blade. Offers better safety, too, since
>> the blade stops in about 1 Second, vs. 2 or 3 Seconds for the type
>> that cuts the engine.
>>
>> Of course, this has nothing to do with the Honda (car, not mower)
>> seat belt switch. I am not seeking to disable the belt, just to stop
>> the annoying beep. The beeping 'feature' has NOTHING to do with
>> safety. If anything, it reduces safety, by irritating the driver.
>>
>> Havr a nice day,
>>
>> -- Ron
>
>That's simply disingenuous. If you're using the seatbelt properly
>(which certainly does have something to do with safety), there *is* no
>beeping feature.
But when I am not, there *is* a beep, that adds nothing to safety
and, if fact, may detract from it.
Suppose that, if you did not use the belt, a club would come out and
hit you on the head, once every 30 seconds. Would *that* be a
'safety feature?
The seat belt is a safety feature. The beep is not.
-- Ron
>
>
>RFT!!!
>Dave Kelsen
12-09-2004, 08:24 AM
#38
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Re: Accord LX seat belt signal hassle
On 12/8/2004 8:40 AM Ron spake these words of knowledge:
> On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 12:41:28 GMT, Dave Kelsen
> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On 12/7/2004 8:58 PM Ron spake these words of knowledge:
>>
>>> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 23:21:28 GMT, "Net-Doctor"
>>> <bgreene1@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On the other hand Ron, I have to admit to being guilty as well. I have
>>>>held off buying a new mower, partly because I couldn't stand it if the motor
>>>>died everytime I let go of that stupid handle thing. In my mind, THAT would
>>>>be annoying. I think I would probably wrap it with a cable tie on day one.
>>>
>>> ...as many users do. Personally, I prefer the blade to stop, so
>>> bought a Honda mower with a blade clutch. Rather than cut the
>>> engine, it disengages the blade. Offers better safety, too, since
>>> the blade stops in about 1 Second, vs. 2 or 3 Seconds for the type
>>> that cuts the engine.
>>>
>>> Of course, this has nothing to do with the Honda (car, not mower)
>>> seat belt switch. I am not seeking to disable the belt, just to stop
>>> the annoying beep. The beeping 'feature' has NOTHING to do with
>>> safety. If anything, it reduces safety, by irritating the driver.
>>>
>>> Havr a nice day,
>>>
>>> -- Ron
>>
>>That's simply disingenuous. If you're using the seatbelt properly
>>(which certainly does have something to do with safety), there *is* no
>>beeping feature.
>
> But when I am not, there *is* a beep, that adds nothing to safety
> and, if fact, may detract from it.
>
> Suppose that, if you did not use the belt, a club would come out and
> hit you on the head, once every 30 seconds. Would *that* be a
> 'safety feature?
>
> The seat belt is a safety feature. The beep is not.
>
> -- Ron
The lamp that comes on when your oil pressure is low has nothing to do
with your engine running properly. Oil pressure is required. The lamp
is not.
The flashing dash lights that tell you when your turn signals are on
have nothing to do with the complying with law. The turn signals are
legally required. The inside indicators are not.
The ... I could go on, but the fact is that you're wrong, in every
meaningful way. You are correct in only a narrow semantic interpretation.
But of course, I recognize your right to be wrong. I recognize your
right to not use seatbelts. As a motorcyclist for just over 30 years
now, I recognize an individual's right to abstain from wearing a helmet.
It's just stupid; people have a right to be stupid. That's how we get
competitors for the Darwin awards...
RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
.... "I think that if you're so confused you 'don't know whether to
or go blind,' you should pretty much always go with '.'" -- Jason Murray
> On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 12:41:28 GMT, Dave Kelsen
> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On 12/7/2004 8:58 PM Ron spake these words of knowledge:
>>
>>> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 23:21:28 GMT, "Net-Doctor"
>>> <bgreene1@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On the other hand Ron, I have to admit to being guilty as well. I have
>>>>held off buying a new mower, partly because I couldn't stand it if the motor
>>>>died everytime I let go of that stupid handle thing. In my mind, THAT would
>>>>be annoying. I think I would probably wrap it with a cable tie on day one.
>>>
>>> ...as many users do. Personally, I prefer the blade to stop, so
>>> bought a Honda mower with a blade clutch. Rather than cut the
>>> engine, it disengages the blade. Offers better safety, too, since
>>> the blade stops in about 1 Second, vs. 2 or 3 Seconds for the type
>>> that cuts the engine.
>>>
>>> Of course, this has nothing to do with the Honda (car, not mower)
>>> seat belt switch. I am not seeking to disable the belt, just to stop
>>> the annoying beep. The beeping 'feature' has NOTHING to do with
>>> safety. If anything, it reduces safety, by irritating the driver.
>>>
>>> Havr a nice day,
>>>
>>> -- Ron
>>
>>That's simply disingenuous. If you're using the seatbelt properly
>>(which certainly does have something to do with safety), there *is* no
>>beeping feature.
>
> But when I am not, there *is* a beep, that adds nothing to safety
> and, if fact, may detract from it.
>
> Suppose that, if you did not use the belt, a club would come out and
> hit you on the head, once every 30 seconds. Would *that* be a
> 'safety feature?
>
> The seat belt is a safety feature. The beep is not.
>
> -- Ron
The lamp that comes on when your oil pressure is low has nothing to do
with your engine running properly. Oil pressure is required. The lamp
is not.
The flashing dash lights that tell you when your turn signals are on
have nothing to do with the complying with law. The turn signals are
legally required. The inside indicators are not.
The ... I could go on, but the fact is that you're wrong, in every
meaningful way. You are correct in only a narrow semantic interpretation.
But of course, I recognize your right to be wrong. I recognize your
right to not use seatbelts. As a motorcyclist for just over 30 years
now, I recognize an individual's right to abstain from wearing a helmet.
It's just stupid; people have a right to be stupid. That's how we get
competitors for the Darwin awards...
RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
.... "I think that if you're so confused you 'don't know whether to
or go blind,' you should pretty much always go with '.'" -- Jason Murray
12-09-2004, 08:24 AM
#39
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Re: Accord LX seat belt signal hassle
On 12/8/2004 8:40 AM Ron spake these words of knowledge:
> On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 12:41:28 GMT, Dave Kelsen
> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On 12/7/2004 8:58 PM Ron spake these words of knowledge:
>>
>>> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 23:21:28 GMT, "Net-Doctor"
>>> <bgreene1@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On the other hand Ron, I have to admit to being guilty as well. I have
>>>>held off buying a new mower, partly because I couldn't stand it if the motor
>>>>died everytime I let go of that stupid handle thing. In my mind, THAT would
>>>>be annoying. I think I would probably wrap it with a cable tie on day one.
>>>
>>> ...as many users do. Personally, I prefer the blade to stop, so
>>> bought a Honda mower with a blade clutch. Rather than cut the
>>> engine, it disengages the blade. Offers better safety, too, since
>>> the blade stops in about 1 Second, vs. 2 or 3 Seconds for the type
>>> that cuts the engine.
>>>
>>> Of course, this has nothing to do with the Honda (car, not mower)
>>> seat belt switch. I am not seeking to disable the belt, just to stop
>>> the annoying beep. The beeping 'feature' has NOTHING to do with
>>> safety. If anything, it reduces safety, by irritating the driver.
>>>
>>> Havr a nice day,
>>>
>>> -- Ron
>>
>>That's simply disingenuous. If you're using the seatbelt properly
>>(which certainly does have something to do with safety), there *is* no
>>beeping feature.
>
> But when I am not, there *is* a beep, that adds nothing to safety
> and, if fact, may detract from it.
>
> Suppose that, if you did not use the belt, a club would come out and
> hit you on the head, once every 30 seconds. Would *that* be a
> 'safety feature?
>
> The seat belt is a safety feature. The beep is not.
>
> -- Ron
The lamp that comes on when your oil pressure is low has nothing to do
with your engine running properly. Oil pressure is required. The lamp
is not.
The flashing dash lights that tell you when your turn signals are on
have nothing to do with the complying with law. The turn signals are
legally required. The inside indicators are not.
The ... I could go on, but the fact is that you're wrong, in every
meaningful way. You are correct in only a narrow semantic interpretation.
But of course, I recognize your right to be wrong. I recognize your
right to not use seatbelts. As a motorcyclist for just over 30 years
now, I recognize an individual's right to abstain from wearing a helmet.
It's just stupid; people have a right to be stupid. That's how we get
competitors for the Darwin awards...
RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
.... "I think that if you're so confused you 'don't know whether to
or go blind,' you should pretty much always go with '.'" -- Jason Murray
> On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 12:41:28 GMT, Dave Kelsen
> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On 12/7/2004 8:58 PM Ron spake these words of knowledge:
>>
>>> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 23:21:28 GMT, "Net-Doctor"
>>> <bgreene1@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On the other hand Ron, I have to admit to being guilty as well. I have
>>>>held off buying a new mower, partly because I couldn't stand it if the motor
>>>>died everytime I let go of that stupid handle thing. In my mind, THAT would
>>>>be annoying. I think I would probably wrap it with a cable tie on day one.
>>>
>>> ...as many users do. Personally, I prefer the blade to stop, so
>>> bought a Honda mower with a blade clutch. Rather than cut the
>>> engine, it disengages the blade. Offers better safety, too, since
>>> the blade stops in about 1 Second, vs. 2 or 3 Seconds for the type
>>> that cuts the engine.
>>>
>>> Of course, this has nothing to do with the Honda (car, not mower)
>>> seat belt switch. I am not seeking to disable the belt, just to stop
>>> the annoying beep. The beeping 'feature' has NOTHING to do with
>>> safety. If anything, it reduces safety, by irritating the driver.
>>>
>>> Havr a nice day,
>>>
>>> -- Ron
>>
>>That's simply disingenuous. If you're using the seatbelt properly
>>(which certainly does have something to do with safety), there *is* no
>>beeping feature.
>
> But when I am not, there *is* a beep, that adds nothing to safety
> and, if fact, may detract from it.
>
> Suppose that, if you did not use the belt, a club would come out and
> hit you on the head, once every 30 seconds. Would *that* be a
> 'safety feature?
>
> The seat belt is a safety feature. The beep is not.
>
> -- Ron
The lamp that comes on when your oil pressure is low has nothing to do
with your engine running properly. Oil pressure is required. The lamp
is not.
The flashing dash lights that tell you when your turn signals are on
have nothing to do with the complying with law. The turn signals are
legally required. The inside indicators are not.
The ... I could go on, but the fact is that you're wrong, in every
meaningful way. You are correct in only a narrow semantic interpretation.
But of course, I recognize your right to be wrong. I recognize your
right to not use seatbelts. As a motorcyclist for just over 30 years
now, I recognize an individual's right to abstain from wearing a helmet.
It's just stupid; people have a right to be stupid. That's how we get
competitors for the Darwin awards...
RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
.... "I think that if you're so confused you 'don't know whether to
or go blind,' you should pretty much always go with '.'" -- Jason Murray
12-09-2004, 06:18 PM
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Re: Accord LX seat belt signal hassle
12-09-2004, 06:18 PM
#41
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Re: Accord LX seat belt signal hassle
12-11-2004, 09:53 AM
#42
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Re: Accord LX seat belt signal hassle
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 13:24:05 GMT, Dave Kelsen
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>On 12/8/2004 8:40 AM Ron spake these words of knowledge:
>
>> On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 12:41:28 GMT, Dave Kelsen
>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>On 12/7/2004 8:58 PM Ron spake these words of knowledge:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 23:21:28 GMT, "Net-Doctor"
>>>> <bgreene1@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On the other hand Ron, I have to admit to being guilty as well. I have
>>>>>held off buying a new mower, partly because I couldn't stand it if the motor
>>>>>died everytime I let go of that stupid handle thing. In my mind, THAT would
>>>>>be annoying. I think I would probably wrap it with a cable tie on day one.
>>>>
>>>> ...as many users do. Personally, I prefer the blade to stop, so
>>>> bought a Honda mower with a blade clutch. Rather than cut the
>>>> engine, it disengages the blade. Offers better safety, too, since
>>>> the blade stops in about 1 Second, vs. 2 or 3 Seconds for the type
>>>> that cuts the engine.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, this has nothing to do with the Honda (car, not mower)
>>>> seat belt switch. I am not seeking to disable the belt, just to stop
>>>> the annoying beep. The beeping 'feature' has NOTHING to do with
>>>> safety. If anything, it reduces safety, by irritating the driver.
>>>>
>>>> Havr a nice day,
>>>>
>>>> -- Ron
>>>
>>>That's simply disingenuous. If you're using the seatbelt properly
>>>(which certainly does have something to do with safety), there *is* no
>>>beeping feature.
>>
>> But when I am not, there *is* a beep, that adds nothing to safety
>> and, if fact, may detract from it.
>>
>> Suppose that, if you did not use the belt, a club would come out and
>> hit you on the head, once every 30 seconds. Would *that* be a
>> 'safety feature?
>>
>> The seat belt is a safety feature. The beep is not.
>>
>> -- Ron
>
>The lamp that comes on when your oil pressure is low has nothing to do
>with your engine running properly. Oil pressure is required. The lamp
>is not.
>
>The flashing dash lights that tell you when your turn signals are on
>have nothing to do with the complying with law. The turn signals are
>legally required. The inside indicators are not.
>
>The ... I could go on, but the fact is that you're wrong, in every
>meaningful way. You are correct in only a narrow semantic interpretation.
>
>But of course, I recognize your right to be wrong. I recognize your
>right to not use seatbelts. As a motorcyclist for just over 30 years
>now, I recognize an individual's right to abstain from wearing a helmet.
>
>It's just stupid; people have a right to be stupid. That's how we get
>competitors for the Darwin awards...
>
>
>RFT!!!
>Dave Kelsen
LOL...
You fail to comrehend an argument, then provide a a series of
non-sequitur examples to prove it...
You characterize anyone that disagrees with you as wrong, then call
them stupid...
Smart, Dave. Very smant.
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>On 12/8/2004 8:40 AM Ron spake these words of knowledge:
>
>> On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 12:41:28 GMT, Dave Kelsen
>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>On 12/7/2004 8:58 PM Ron spake these words of knowledge:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 23:21:28 GMT, "Net-Doctor"
>>>> <bgreene1@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On the other hand Ron, I have to admit to being guilty as well. I have
>>>>>held off buying a new mower, partly because I couldn't stand it if the motor
>>>>>died everytime I let go of that stupid handle thing. In my mind, THAT would
>>>>>be annoying. I think I would probably wrap it with a cable tie on day one.
>>>>
>>>> ...as many users do. Personally, I prefer the blade to stop, so
>>>> bought a Honda mower with a blade clutch. Rather than cut the
>>>> engine, it disengages the blade. Offers better safety, too, since
>>>> the blade stops in about 1 Second, vs. 2 or 3 Seconds for the type
>>>> that cuts the engine.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, this has nothing to do with the Honda (car, not mower)
>>>> seat belt switch. I am not seeking to disable the belt, just to stop
>>>> the annoying beep. The beeping 'feature' has NOTHING to do with
>>>> safety. If anything, it reduces safety, by irritating the driver.
>>>>
>>>> Havr a nice day,
>>>>
>>>> -- Ron
>>>
>>>That's simply disingenuous. If you're using the seatbelt properly
>>>(which certainly does have something to do with safety), there *is* no
>>>beeping feature.
>>
>> But when I am not, there *is* a beep, that adds nothing to safety
>> and, if fact, may detract from it.
>>
>> Suppose that, if you did not use the belt, a club would come out and
>> hit you on the head, once every 30 seconds. Would *that* be a
>> 'safety feature?
>>
>> The seat belt is a safety feature. The beep is not.
>>
>> -- Ron
>
>The lamp that comes on when your oil pressure is low has nothing to do
>with your engine running properly. Oil pressure is required. The lamp
>is not.
>
>The flashing dash lights that tell you when your turn signals are on
>have nothing to do with the complying with law. The turn signals are
>legally required. The inside indicators are not.
>
>The ... I could go on, but the fact is that you're wrong, in every
>meaningful way. You are correct in only a narrow semantic interpretation.
>
>But of course, I recognize your right to be wrong. I recognize your
>right to not use seatbelts. As a motorcyclist for just over 30 years
>now, I recognize an individual's right to abstain from wearing a helmet.
>
>It's just stupid; people have a right to be stupid. That's how we get
>competitors for the Darwin awards...
>
>
>RFT!!!
>Dave Kelsen
LOL...
You fail to comrehend an argument, then provide a a series of
non-sequitur examples to prove it...
You characterize anyone that disagrees with you as wrong, then call
them stupid...
Smart, Dave. Very smant.
12-11-2004, 09:53 AM
#43
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Re: Accord LX seat belt signal hassle
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 13:24:05 GMT, Dave Kelsen
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>On 12/8/2004 8:40 AM Ron spake these words of knowledge:
>
>> On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 12:41:28 GMT, Dave Kelsen
>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>On 12/7/2004 8:58 PM Ron spake these words of knowledge:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 23:21:28 GMT, "Net-Doctor"
>>>> <bgreene1@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On the other hand Ron, I have to admit to being guilty as well. I have
>>>>>held off buying a new mower, partly because I couldn't stand it if the motor
>>>>>died everytime I let go of that stupid handle thing. In my mind, THAT would
>>>>>be annoying. I think I would probably wrap it with a cable tie on day one.
>>>>
>>>> ...as many users do. Personally, I prefer the blade to stop, so
>>>> bought a Honda mower with a blade clutch. Rather than cut the
>>>> engine, it disengages the blade. Offers better safety, too, since
>>>> the blade stops in about 1 Second, vs. 2 or 3 Seconds for the type
>>>> that cuts the engine.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, this has nothing to do with the Honda (car, not mower)
>>>> seat belt switch. I am not seeking to disable the belt, just to stop
>>>> the annoying beep. The beeping 'feature' has NOTHING to do with
>>>> safety. If anything, it reduces safety, by irritating the driver.
>>>>
>>>> Havr a nice day,
>>>>
>>>> -- Ron
>>>
>>>That's simply disingenuous. If you're using the seatbelt properly
>>>(which certainly does have something to do with safety), there *is* no
>>>beeping feature.
>>
>> But when I am not, there *is* a beep, that adds nothing to safety
>> and, if fact, may detract from it.
>>
>> Suppose that, if you did not use the belt, a club would come out and
>> hit you on the head, once every 30 seconds. Would *that* be a
>> 'safety feature?
>>
>> The seat belt is a safety feature. The beep is not.
>>
>> -- Ron
>
>The lamp that comes on when your oil pressure is low has nothing to do
>with your engine running properly. Oil pressure is required. The lamp
>is not.
>
>The flashing dash lights that tell you when your turn signals are on
>have nothing to do with the complying with law. The turn signals are
>legally required. The inside indicators are not.
>
>The ... I could go on, but the fact is that you're wrong, in every
>meaningful way. You are correct in only a narrow semantic interpretation.
>
>But of course, I recognize your right to be wrong. I recognize your
>right to not use seatbelts. As a motorcyclist for just over 30 years
>now, I recognize an individual's right to abstain from wearing a helmet.
>
>It's just stupid; people have a right to be stupid. That's how we get
>competitors for the Darwin awards...
>
>
>RFT!!!
>Dave Kelsen
LOL...
You fail to comrehend an argument, then provide a a series of
non-sequitur examples to prove it...
You characterize anyone that disagrees with you as wrong, then call
them stupid...
Smart, Dave. Very smant.
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>On 12/8/2004 8:40 AM Ron spake these words of knowledge:
>
>> On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 12:41:28 GMT, Dave Kelsen
>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>On 12/7/2004 8:58 PM Ron spake these words of knowledge:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 23:21:28 GMT, "Net-Doctor"
>>>> <bgreene1@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On the other hand Ron, I have to admit to being guilty as well. I have
>>>>>held off buying a new mower, partly because I couldn't stand it if the motor
>>>>>died everytime I let go of that stupid handle thing. In my mind, THAT would
>>>>>be annoying. I think I would probably wrap it with a cable tie on day one.
>>>>
>>>> ...as many users do. Personally, I prefer the blade to stop, so
>>>> bought a Honda mower with a blade clutch. Rather than cut the
>>>> engine, it disengages the blade. Offers better safety, too, since
>>>> the blade stops in about 1 Second, vs. 2 or 3 Seconds for the type
>>>> that cuts the engine.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, this has nothing to do with the Honda (car, not mower)
>>>> seat belt switch. I am not seeking to disable the belt, just to stop
>>>> the annoying beep. The beeping 'feature' has NOTHING to do with
>>>> safety. If anything, it reduces safety, by irritating the driver.
>>>>
>>>> Havr a nice day,
>>>>
>>>> -- Ron
>>>
>>>That's simply disingenuous. If you're using the seatbelt properly
>>>(which certainly does have something to do with safety), there *is* no
>>>beeping feature.
>>
>> But when I am not, there *is* a beep, that adds nothing to safety
>> and, if fact, may detract from it.
>>
>> Suppose that, if you did not use the belt, a club would come out and
>> hit you on the head, once every 30 seconds. Would *that* be a
>> 'safety feature?
>>
>> The seat belt is a safety feature. The beep is not.
>>
>> -- Ron
>
>The lamp that comes on when your oil pressure is low has nothing to do
>with your engine running properly. Oil pressure is required. The lamp
>is not.
>
>The flashing dash lights that tell you when your turn signals are on
>have nothing to do with the complying with law. The turn signals are
>legally required. The inside indicators are not.
>
>The ... I could go on, but the fact is that you're wrong, in every
>meaningful way. You are correct in only a narrow semantic interpretation.
>
>But of course, I recognize your right to be wrong. I recognize your
>right to not use seatbelts. As a motorcyclist for just over 30 years
>now, I recognize an individual's right to abstain from wearing a helmet.
>
>It's just stupid; people have a right to be stupid. That's how we get
>competitors for the Darwin awards...
>
>
>RFT!!!
>Dave Kelsen
LOL...
You fail to comrehend an argument, then provide a a series of
non-sequitur examples to prove it...
You characterize anyone that disagrees with you as wrong, then call
them stupid...
Smart, Dave. Very smant.
12-11-2004, 10:29 AM
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Re: Accord LX seat belt signal hassle
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 18:18:44 -0500, "LBJGH" <bite_mee@hotsnail.back>
wrote:
>Ron, I found that video if you want to watch it...
>
>http://members.rogers.com/5555/seatbelt.wmv
>
Thanks.
This shows a driver hurled into the passenger seat, then the back
seat, followingt a very high speed collission. In that particular
situation, a seat belt would have been beneficial.
This does does not apply when driving forward, at very low speed,
frequently stopping and getting out of the car.
-- Ron
wrote:
>Ron, I found that video if you want to watch it...
>
>http://members.rogers.com/5555/seatbelt.wmv
>
Thanks.
This shows a driver hurled into the passenger seat, then the back
seat, followingt a very high speed collission. In that particular
situation, a seat belt would have been beneficial.
This does does not apply when driving forward, at very low speed,
frequently stopping and getting out of the car.
-- Ron
12-11-2004, 10:29 AM
#45
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Re: Accord LX seat belt signal hassle
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 18:18:44 -0500, "LBJGH" <bite_mee@hotsnail.back>
wrote:
>Ron, I found that video if you want to watch it...
>
>http://members.rogers.com/5555/seatbelt.wmv
>
Thanks.
This shows a driver hurled into the passenger seat, then the back
seat, followingt a very high speed collission. In that particular
situation, a seat belt would have been beneficial.
This does does not apply when driving forward, at very low speed,
frequently stopping and getting out of the car.
-- Ron
wrote:
>Ron, I found that video if you want to watch it...
>
>http://members.rogers.com/5555/seatbelt.wmv
>
Thanks.
This shows a driver hurled into the passenger seat, then the back
seat, followingt a very high speed collission. In that particular
situation, a seat belt would have been beneficial.
This does does not apply when driving forward, at very low speed,
frequently stopping and getting out of the car.
-- Ron