Michael Pardee

"Ron" <ronami@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 18:18:44 -0500, "LBJGH" <bite_mee@hotsnail.back>
> wrote:
>
>>Ron, I found that video if you want to watch it...
>>
>>http://members.rogers.com/5555/seatbelt.wmv
>>
>
> Thanks.
>
> This shows a driver hurled into the passenger seat, then the back
> seat, followingt a very high speed collission. In that particular
> situation, a seat belt would have been beneficial.
>
> This does does not apply when driving forward, at very low speed,
> frequently stopping and getting out of the car.
>
> -- Ron
>
My son was injured under those exact circumstances. He was working as a
night security guard and didn't buckle up when creeping from one location to
another. The door didn't latch, and when he tried to close it he was pulled
out and injured his knee. He was fired for violating company safety policy
regarding seat belt use and he couldn't deny a belt would have held him in
the vehicle. And my wife's colleague was medevac'd with a broken vertebra
after sliding off the road at an estimated 20 mph. Seat belts are always
beneficial at lower speeds, although occasional stop-and-creep maneuvers may
require unfastening the belt to get a better view. I have to do that
occasionally in my off-road driving at work, but the times I apply the
parking brake and survey the unknown area on foot outnumbers those times at
least 10:1.

Remember, a 15 mph collision is like falling off a roof and landing face
down. The last I heard (decades ago), the low speed record for a driver
fatality was 7 mph in a parking lot collision. The driver ruptured his
spleen when he hit the steering wheel, went home, got drowsy and died.

But, do what you want.

Mike

Michael Pardee

"Ron" <ronami@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7j2mr0lvkoiitb7i4vk9emckbvcpjih10t@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 18:18:44 -0500, "LBJGH" <bite_mee@hotsnail.back>
> wrote:
>
>>Ron, I found that video if you want to watch it...
>>
>>http://members.rogers.com/5555/seatbelt.wmv
>>
>
> Thanks.
>
> This shows a driver hurled into the passenger seat, then the back
> seat, followingt a very high speed collission. In that particular
> situation, a seat belt would have been beneficial.
>
> This does does not apply when driving forward, at very low speed,
> frequently stopping and getting out of the car.
>
> -- Ron
>
My son was injured under those exact circumstances. He was working as a
night security guard and didn't buckle up when creeping from one location to
another. The door didn't latch, and when he tried to close it he was pulled
out and injured his knee. He was fired for violating company safety policy
regarding seat belt use and he couldn't deny a belt would have held him in
the vehicle. And my wife's colleague was medevac'd with a broken vertebra
after sliding off the road at an estimated 20 mph. Seat belts are always
beneficial at lower speeds, although occasional stop-and-creep maneuvers may
require unfastening the belt to get a better view. I have to do that
occasionally in my off-road driving at work, but the times I apply the
parking brake and survey the unknown area on foot outnumbers those times at
least 10:1.

Remember, a 15 mph collision is like falling off a roof and landing face
down. The last I heard (decades ago), the low speed record for a driver
fatality was 7 mph in a parking lot collision. The driver ruptured his
spleen when he hit the steering wheel, went home, got drowsy and died.

But, do what you want.

Mike

LBJGH

I guess you could assume you'd be hitting someone at low speed and you want
be thrown around in the car but what if some goofball blows a stop sign
doing 50mph? I played high school football years ago and can tell you being
hit by a 200lb person running at about 10mph... I can only imagine what
2000lbs @ 50mph would do.

Glad you at least watched the video.



"Ron" <ronami@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 18:18:44 -0500, "LBJGH" <bite_mee@hotsnail.back>
> wrote:
>
>>Ron, I found that video if you want to watch it...
>>
>>http://members.rogers.com/5555/seatbelt.wmv
>>
>
> Thanks.
>
> This shows a driver hurled into the passenger seat, then the back
> seat, followingt a very high speed collission. In that particular
> situation, a seat belt would have been beneficial.
>
> This does does not apply when driving forward, at very low speed,
> frequently stopping and getting out of the car.
>
> -- Ron
>

LBJGH

I guess you could assume you'd be hitting someone at low speed and you want
be thrown around in the car but what if some goofball blows a stop sign
doing 50mph? I played high school football years ago and can tell you being
hit by a 200lb person running at about 10mph... I can only imagine what
2000lbs @ 50mph would do.

Glad you at least watched the video.



"Ron" <ronami@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7j2mr0lvkoiitb7i4vk9emckbvcpjih10t@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 18:18:44 -0500, "LBJGH" <bite_mee@hotsnail.back>
> wrote:
>
>>Ron, I found that video if you want to watch it...
>>
>>http://members.rogers.com/5555/seatbelt.wmv
>>
>
> Thanks.
>
> This shows a driver hurled into the passenger seat, then the back
> seat, followingt a very high speed collission. In that particular
> situation, a seat belt would have been beneficial.
>
> This does does not apply when driving forward, at very low speed,
> frequently stopping and getting out of the car.
>
> -- Ron
>

Randolph

Ron wrote:

> This shows a driver hurled into the passenger seat, then the back
> seat, followingt a very high speed collission. In that particular
> situation, a seat belt would have been beneficial.
>
> This does does not apply when driving forward, at very low speed,
> frequently stopping and getting out of the car.
>
> -- Ron

After decades of driving and riding in cars, I can say that a seat belt
has never been of any benefit to me whatsoever, regardless of speed and
other circumstances. Yet I buckle up every time I get in a car and have
thus far never seen any reason not to.

Randolph

Ron wrote:

> This shows a driver hurled into the passenger seat, then the back
> seat, followingt a very high speed collission. In that particular
> situation, a seat belt would have been beneficial.
>
> This does does not apply when driving forward, at very low speed,
> frequently stopping and getting out of the car.
>
> -- Ron

After decades of driving and riding in cars, I can say that a seat belt
has never been of any benefit to me whatsoever, regardless of speed and
other circumstances. Yet I buckle up every time I get in a car and have
thus far never seen any reason not to.