|
Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car broken in
to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the last three days.) I live in a apartment complex nice enough to attract thieves, however not nice enough to have overnight security. The break-ins were done in large waves. All the cars broken into on these nights were Hondas that cover the whole of the complex. In all three instances the police told me that Hondas are easily broken into due to an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? Thanks for any help you can offer. WooHoo2You |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
In article <Obcje.7533$w21.6398@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink. net>,
"WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote: > I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car broken in > to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the last three days.) I > live in a apartment complex nice enough to attract thieves, however not nice > enough to have overnight security. The break-ins were done in large waves. > All the cars broken into on these nights were Hondas that cover the whole of > the complex. In all three instances the police told me that Hondas are > easily broken into due to an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. > > Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? > > Thanks for any help you can offer. > > WooHoo2You I don't know of a fix. The person or persons that broke into your car probably used what is known as a "slim-jim". The owners of tow trucks carry them to open the cars of people that lock their keys inside their vehicles. All car thiefs have them and they can easily be home made. They can used to break in almost any car regardless of the company that made the car. They usually go after older cars that are not likely to have car alarms. I advise you to buy a car alarm and install it. In addition, put stickers on both front windows indicating that you have a car alarm installed. -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
In article <Obcje.7533$w21.6398@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink. net>,
"WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote: > I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car broken in > to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the last three days.) I > live in a apartment complex nice enough to attract thieves, however not nice > enough to have overnight security. The break-ins were done in large waves. > All the cars broken into on these nights were Hondas that cover the whole of > the complex. In all three instances the police told me that Hondas are > easily broken into due to an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. > > Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? > > Thanks for any help you can offer. > > WooHoo2You I don't know of a fix. The person or persons that broke into your car probably used what is known as a "slim-jim". The owners of tow trucks carry them to open the cars of people that lock their keys inside their vehicles. All car thiefs have them and they can easily be home made. They can used to break in almost any car regardless of the company that made the car. They usually go after older cars that are not likely to have car alarms. I advise you to buy a car alarm and install it. In addition, put stickers on both front windows indicating that you have a car alarm installed. -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
I do not know if they used a slim jim. I do know that the pressed the
window down almost an inch, and caused damage to the rubber weathering strips that seal the top section of the glass to the door's frame. WooHoo2You "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:jason-1905052013010001@pm1-broad-125.snlo.dialup.fix.net... > In article <Obcje.7533$w21.6398@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink. net>, > "WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote: > >> I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car broken >> in >> to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the last three days.) >> I >> live in a apartment complex nice enough to attract thieves, however not >> nice >> enough to have overnight security. The break-ins were done in large >> waves. >> All the cars broken into on these nights were Hondas that cover the whole >> of >> the complex. In all three instances the police told me that Hondas are >> easily broken into due to an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. >> >> Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? >> >> Thanks for any help you can offer. >> >> WooHoo2You > > I don't know of a fix. The person or persons that broke into your car > probably used what is known as a "slim-jim". The owners of tow trucks > carry them to open the cars of people that lock their keys inside their > vehicles. All car thiefs have them and they can easily be home made. They > can used to break in almost any car regardless of the company that made > the car. They usually go after older cars that are not likely to have car > alarms. I advise you to buy a car alarm and install it. In addition, put > stickers on both front windows indicating that you have a car alarm > installed. > > -- > NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO > We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. > We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. > > > |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
I do not know if they used a slim jim. I do know that the pressed the
window down almost an inch, and caused damage to the rubber weathering strips that seal the top section of the glass to the door's frame. WooHoo2You "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:jason-1905052013010001@pm1-broad-125.snlo.dialup.fix.net... > In article <Obcje.7533$w21.6398@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink. net>, > "WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote: > >> I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car broken >> in >> to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the last three days.) >> I >> live in a apartment complex nice enough to attract thieves, however not >> nice >> enough to have overnight security. The break-ins were done in large >> waves. >> All the cars broken into on these nights were Hondas that cover the whole >> of >> the complex. In all three instances the police told me that Hondas are >> easily broken into due to an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. >> >> Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? >> >> Thanks for any help you can offer. >> >> WooHoo2You > > I don't know of a fix. The person or persons that broke into your car > probably used what is known as a "slim-jim". The owners of tow trucks > carry them to open the cars of people that lock their keys inside their > vehicles. All car thiefs have them and they can easily be home made. They > can used to break in almost any car regardless of the company that made > the car. They usually go after older cars that are not likely to have car > alarms. I advise you to buy a car alarm and install it. In addition, put > stickers on both front windows indicating that you have a car alarm > installed. > > -- > NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO > We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. > We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. > > > |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
"WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in message
news:AHcje.4748$uR4.1456@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net... >I do not know if they used a slim jim. I do know that the pressed the >window down almost an inch, and caused damage to the rubber weathering >strips that seal the top section of the glass to the door's frame. > That sounds like the way the road service guy opened my son's '89 Accord LXi when he locked the keys in it. No go with the slim jim - there was just nothing to grab that would move the direction he needed to go to unlock the door. He next tried to push the driver's window down, but just couldn't get the gap he needed without damaging something. Then he got a pair of padded pry bars and a pair of padded wooden wedges out and worked at making a gap between the door and the body at the top rear corner of the driver's door. About 5 minutes of that opened a gap he could get a stiff wire in and flip the lock lever. That guy earned his $35, I'll tell you! (Probably all cars can be opened that way, I'm guessing.) Mike |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
"WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in message
news:AHcje.4748$uR4.1456@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net... >I do not know if they used a slim jim. I do know that the pressed the >window down almost an inch, and caused damage to the rubber weathering >strips that seal the top section of the glass to the door's frame. > That sounds like the way the road service guy opened my son's '89 Accord LXi when he locked the keys in it. No go with the slim jim - there was just nothing to grab that would move the direction he needed to go to unlock the door. He next tried to push the driver's window down, but just couldn't get the gap he needed without damaging something. Then he got a pair of padded pry bars and a pair of padded wooden wedges out and worked at making a gap between the door and the body at the top rear corner of the driver's door. About 5 minutes of that opened a gap he could get a stiff wire in and flip the lock lever. That guy earned his $35, I'll tell you! (Probably all cars can be opened that way, I'm guessing.) Mike |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
I just find it strange that all the cars that were broken into were Hondas,
and the exact same way, on all there occasions. I love my Civic, and would only trade-up for another Honda, however at this point I am second guessing my decision on new car purchases. (it just kills me when I walk to my car and all of my belongings on the wet ground beside my car, or a police officer coming to my door to inform me of the wonderful news.) WooHoo2You "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message news:-o2dnf4d98lLwxDfRVn-3g@sedona.net... > "WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in message > news:AHcje.4748$uR4.1456@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net... >>I do not know if they used a slim jim. I do know that the pressed the >>window down almost an inch, and caused damage to the rubber weathering >>strips that seal the top section of the glass to the door's frame. >> > > That sounds like the way the road service guy opened my son's '89 Accord > LXi when he locked the keys in it. No go with the slim jim - there was > just nothing to grab that would move the direction he needed to go to > unlock the door. He next tried to push the driver's window down, but just > couldn't get the gap he needed without damaging something. Then he got a > pair of padded pry bars and a pair of padded wooden wedges out and worked > at making a gap between the door and the body at the top rear corner of > the driver's door. About 5 minutes of that opened a gap he could get a > stiff wire in and flip the lock lever. That guy earned his $35, I'll tell > you! > > (Probably all cars can be opened that way, I'm guessing.) > > Mike > |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
I just find it strange that all the cars that were broken into were Hondas,
and the exact same way, on all there occasions. I love my Civic, and would only trade-up for another Honda, however at this point I am second guessing my decision on new car purchases. (it just kills me when I walk to my car and all of my belongings on the wet ground beside my car, or a police officer coming to my door to inform me of the wonderful news.) WooHoo2You "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message news:-o2dnf4d98lLwxDfRVn-3g@sedona.net... > "WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in message > news:AHcje.4748$uR4.1456@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net... >>I do not know if they used a slim jim. I do know that the pressed the >>window down almost an inch, and caused damage to the rubber weathering >>strips that seal the top section of the glass to the door's frame. >> > > That sounds like the way the road service guy opened my son's '89 Accord > LXi when he locked the keys in it. No go with the slim jim - there was > just nothing to grab that would move the direction he needed to go to > unlock the door. He next tried to push the driver's window down, but just > couldn't get the gap he needed without damaging something. Then he got a > pair of padded pry bars and a pair of padded wooden wedges out and worked > at making a gap between the door and the body at the top rear corner of > the driver's door. About 5 minutes of that opened a gap he could get a > stiff wire in and flip the lock lever. That guy earned his $35, I'll tell > you! > > (Probably all cars can be opened that way, I'm guessing.) > > Mike > |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
WooHoo2You wrote:
| I just find it strange that all the cars that were broken into were | Hondas, and the exact same way, on all there occasions. I live in a complex, too, and had my car (Civic 88) broken into three times. Two times, it was the cheap "smash a window, yank the radio, run" trick (actually, once they only stole the face of the radio that was under the seat and left the radio in?!). When the third theft happened, I didn't even notice. As I was about to drive off in the morning, I noticed that the glove compartment was open. I tried remembering whether I had unlocked the car (happens automatically), and wasn't sure I actually had. Closer inspection showed that the car was broken into. Two (empty) packs of cigarettes were missing, nothing else. What *was* curious, though, was that on the driver side window, the little "nose"/tab that guides the window at the front top of the window when it meets the frame was missing. I found it next to the car on the ground, a little piece of metal with the (plastic-covered) nose. I could stick it back in and it's been there since. The same night a whole lot of other Hondas were broken into the same way. My carport neighbor told me that they only stole some mints out of her car, but she had the same symptom - that little nose missing. If I remember right, it's was an older (late 80s) Accord. So I guess there is a weak spot for those in the know with the lack of respect for others property. | I love my Civic, and would only trade-up for another Honda, however | at this point I am second guessing my decision on new car purchases. | (it just kills me when I walk to my car and all of my belongings on | the wet ground beside my car, or a police officer coming to my door | to inform me of the wonderful news.) Yeah that sucks. A few things to consider: - put in an alarm, or at least a blinking light. Even though nobody even notices alarms these days (at least not around where I live), it's still an added risk factor for a thief. Given two cars, side-by-side, one with a blinking light and the other without, which one would you pick? - *take out all valuables*. That includes empty bags that look like they could have a laptop computer etc. You can go as far as leaving the glove compartment open to show that there's nothing fancy inside. - (aftermarket stereo) - take off the face and out of the car. - (if nothing is worth stealing in the car) - consider even leaving it unlocked. That might sound radical but at least it saves you having to replace another window. - use an immobilizing device such as a club. Yes, those can be cracked as well (literally...) but it takes more time. Not worth for hobby thieves, and pros don't mess with crappy little Civics (no insult, I have one too ;) A friend had his (old beat up) Camry stolen for a joyride. Ever since then, I have a club on my wheel and leave nothing in it worth stealing. Knock on wood, it hasn't been broken into in the last 3 or so years... Oh - slimjimming these cars is *simple* - when I locked in my keys, the AAA guy that came needed about all of 7 seconds to have it open. || || WooHoo2You || || "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message || news:-o2dnf4d98lLwxDfRVn-3g@sedona.net... ||| "WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in message ||| news:AHcje.4748$uR4.1456@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net... |||| I do not know if they used a slim jim. I do know that the pressed |||| the window down almost an inch, and caused damage to the rubber |||| weathering strips that seal the top section of the glass to the |||| door's frame. |||| ||| ||| That sounds like the way the road service guy opened my son's '89 ||| Accord LXi when he locked the keys in it. No go with the slim jim - ||| there was just nothing to grab that would move the direction he ||| needed to go to unlock the door. He next tried to push the driver's ||| window down, but just couldn't get the gap he needed without ||| damaging something. Then he got a pair of padded pry bars and a ||| pair of padded wooden wedges out and worked at making a gap between ||| the door and the body at the top rear corner of the driver's door. ||| About 5 minutes of that opened a gap he could get a stiff wire in ||| and flip the lock lever. That guy earned his $35, I'll tell you! ||| ||| (Probably all cars can be opened that way, I'm guessing.) ||| ||| Mike |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
WooHoo2You wrote:
| I just find it strange that all the cars that were broken into were | Hondas, and the exact same way, on all there occasions. I live in a complex, too, and had my car (Civic 88) broken into three times. Two times, it was the cheap "smash a window, yank the radio, run" trick (actually, once they only stole the face of the radio that was under the seat and left the radio in?!). When the third theft happened, I didn't even notice. As I was about to drive off in the morning, I noticed that the glove compartment was open. I tried remembering whether I had unlocked the car (happens automatically), and wasn't sure I actually had. Closer inspection showed that the car was broken into. Two (empty) packs of cigarettes were missing, nothing else. What *was* curious, though, was that on the driver side window, the little "nose"/tab that guides the window at the front top of the window when it meets the frame was missing. I found it next to the car on the ground, a little piece of metal with the (plastic-covered) nose. I could stick it back in and it's been there since. The same night a whole lot of other Hondas were broken into the same way. My carport neighbor told me that they only stole some mints out of her car, but she had the same symptom - that little nose missing. If I remember right, it's was an older (late 80s) Accord. So I guess there is a weak spot for those in the know with the lack of respect for others property. | I love my Civic, and would only trade-up for another Honda, however | at this point I am second guessing my decision on new car purchases. | (it just kills me when I walk to my car and all of my belongings on | the wet ground beside my car, or a police officer coming to my door | to inform me of the wonderful news.) Yeah that sucks. A few things to consider: - put in an alarm, or at least a blinking light. Even though nobody even notices alarms these days (at least not around where I live), it's still an added risk factor for a thief. Given two cars, side-by-side, one with a blinking light and the other without, which one would you pick? - *take out all valuables*. That includes empty bags that look like they could have a laptop computer etc. You can go as far as leaving the glove compartment open to show that there's nothing fancy inside. - (aftermarket stereo) - take off the face and out of the car. - (if nothing is worth stealing in the car) - consider even leaving it unlocked. That might sound radical but at least it saves you having to replace another window. - use an immobilizing device such as a club. Yes, those can be cracked as well (literally...) but it takes more time. Not worth for hobby thieves, and pros don't mess with crappy little Civics (no insult, I have one too ;) A friend had his (old beat up) Camry stolen for a joyride. Ever since then, I have a club on my wheel and leave nothing in it worth stealing. Knock on wood, it hasn't been broken into in the last 3 or so years... Oh - slimjimming these cars is *simple* - when I locked in my keys, the AAA guy that came needed about all of 7 seconds to have it open. || || WooHoo2You || || "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message || news:-o2dnf4d98lLwxDfRVn-3g@sedona.net... ||| "WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in message ||| news:AHcje.4748$uR4.1456@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net... |||| I do not know if they used a slim jim. I do know that the pressed |||| the window down almost an inch, and caused damage to the rubber |||| weathering strips that seal the top section of the glass to the |||| door's frame. |||| ||| ||| That sounds like the way the road service guy opened my son's '89 ||| Accord LXi when he locked the keys in it. No go with the slim jim - ||| there was just nothing to grab that would move the direction he ||| needed to go to unlock the door. He next tried to push the driver's ||| window down, but just couldn't get the gap he needed without ||| damaging something. Then he got a pair of padded pry bars and a ||| pair of padded wooden wedges out and worked at making a gap between ||| the door and the body at the top rear corner of the driver's door. ||| About 5 minutes of that opened a gap he could get a stiff wire in ||| and flip the lock lever. That guy earned his $35, I'll tell you! ||| ||| (Probably all cars can be opened that way, I'm guessing.) ||| ||| Mike |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
"WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in
news:Obcje.7533$w21.6398@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net: > I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car > broken in to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the last > three days.) I live in a apartment complex nice enough to attract > thieves, however not nice enough to have overnight security. The > break-ins were done in large waves. All the cars broken into on these > nights were Hondas that cover the whole of the complex. In all three > instances the police told me that Hondas are easily broken into due to > an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. > > Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? > > Thanks for any help you can offer. One workaround that is apparently common in Britain, which also has very high auto break-in rates, is simply to leave the doors UNLOCKED, and ALL valuables removed. The crooks can enter without causing damage, look around, and hopefully leave emptyhanded. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
"WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in
news:Obcje.7533$w21.6398@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net: > I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car > broken in to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the last > three days.) I live in a apartment complex nice enough to attract > thieves, however not nice enough to have overnight security. The > break-ins were done in large waves. All the cars broken into on these > nights were Hondas that cover the whole of the complex. In all three > instances the police told me that Hondas are easily broken into due to > an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. > > Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? > > Thanks for any help you can offer. One workaround that is apparently common in Britain, which also has very high auto break-in rates, is simply to leave the doors UNLOCKED, and ALL valuables removed. The crooks can enter without causing damage, look around, and hopefully leave emptyhanded. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns965C4C074CEE1tegger@207.14.113.17: > "WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in > news:Obcje.7533$w21.6398@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net: > >> I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car >> broken in to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the last >> three days.) I live in a apartment complex nice enough to attract >> thieves, however not nice enough to have overnight security. The >> break-ins were done in large waves. All the cars broken into on these >> nights were Hondas that cover the whole of the complex. In all three >> instances the police told me that Hondas are easily broken into due to >> an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. >> >> Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? >> >> Thanks for any help you can offer. > > > > One workaround that is apparently common in Britain, which also has very > high auto break-in rates, is simply to leave the doors UNLOCKED, and ALL > valuables removed. > > The crooks can enter without causing damage, look around, and hopefully > leave emptyhanded. > > Of course,they might be after PARTS of your car itself,like the ECU;a part of your car that is very valuable,and absolutely necessary to operate your car.It will NOT run without it. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns965C4C074CEE1tegger@207.14.113.17: > "WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in > news:Obcje.7533$w21.6398@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net: > >> I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car >> broken in to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the last >> three days.) I live in a apartment complex nice enough to attract >> thieves, however not nice enough to have overnight security. The >> break-ins were done in large waves. All the cars broken into on these >> nights were Hondas that cover the whole of the complex. In all three >> instances the police told me that Hondas are easily broken into due to >> an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. >> >> Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? >> >> Thanks for any help you can offer. > > > > One workaround that is apparently common in Britain, which also has very > high auto break-in rates, is simply to leave the doors UNLOCKED, and ALL > valuables removed. > > The crooks can enter without causing damage, look around, and hopefully > leave emptyhanded. > > Of course,they might be after PARTS of your car itself,like the ECU;a part of your car that is very valuable,and absolutely necessary to operate your car.It will NOT run without it. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
| All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:35 PM. |
© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands