GM Closes 4 Suv and Truck Plants
 

and shareholders suffer while GM pays GM Chief a crap load of money....

The best quote:
"We either need to change this company or have the Japanese come in and run
the whole place," John Lauve


http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080603/gm_sh...ders.html?.v=5

Re: GM Closes 4 Suv and Truck Plants
 

On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:00:28 +0000, Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:

> and shareholders suffer while GM pays GM Chief a crap load of money....

Ahhh. You're a socialist/Lib/Dimocrat, eh?

<snip>


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Re: GM Closes 4 Suv and Truck Plants
 

Dan C wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:00:28 +0000, Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
>
>> and shareholders suffer while GM pays GM Chief a crap load of money....
>
> Ahhh. You're a socialist/Lib/Dimocrat, eh?


Actually, as one who has a lot of money tied up in the stock market (but
little in GM, I have to say that Don't Taze Me, Bro has a point.

Jeff

> <snip>
>
>

Re: GM Closes 4 Suv and Truck Plants
 

"Dan C" <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote in message
news:pan.2008.06.04.01.11.59.798335@moria.lan...
> On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:00:28 +0000, Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
>
>> and shareholders suffer while GM pays GM Chief a crap load of money....
>
> Ahhh. You're a socialist/Lib/Dimocrat, eh?

Umm, for thinking the shareholders should not suffer losing money while the
GM Chief is paid an insane amount of money?

How did you get "socialist democrat" from thinking the shareholders should
be treated right?

Folks, above, I would like you observe what it is like to be brainwashed by
one of the various political sides. Anytime a company gets questioned about
ethics, there is always an extreme conservative who thinks it is socialist
to suggest a company have such.

Re: GM Closes 4 Suv and Truck Plants
 

On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:48:17 +0000, Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:

>>> and shareholders suffer while GM pays GM Chief a crap load of money....

>> Ahhh. You're a socialist/Lib/Dimocrat, eh?

> Umm, for thinking the shareholders should not suffer losing money while the
> GM Chief is paid an insane amount of money?

It's a fact of life, Junior. Sometimes shareholders lose money. That's
the way the stock market and the free enterprise system works. As for the
CEO making an "insane" amount of money... well, it's certainly more than
other GM employees make, but that's (also) how things work. Those in
charge get paid more. Simple fact of life. Perhaps if you had more
education, you could make some money, yourself!

> How did you get "socialist democrat" from thinking the shareholders should
> be treated right?

Because your post is a textbook example of Lib-think, which is thinly
disguised socialism, where you believe everyone should make the same
income, and share everything amongst each other equally. That isn't how
it works here in the USA, thank god. Go visit the (former) East Bloc if
you'd like to see how well that system works.

> Folks, above, I would like you observe what it is like to be brainwashed by
> one of the various political sides. Anytime a company gets questioned about
> ethics, there is always an extreme conservative who thinks it is socialist
> to suggest a company have such.

Wrong. It's socialist to complain that the boss makes more than you do.
Get a clue, and stay in school, boy. Someday maybe you'll be a CEO....
well, that's not too likely, but perhaps you can get out of the fast food
joint.


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Re: GM Closes 4 Suv and Truck Plants
 

"Don't Taze Me, Bro!" <One187@NoWhere.Com> wrote in
news:Bvm1k.9117$jX.8234@trnddc04:

>
> "Dan C" <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote in message
> news:pan.2008.06.04.01.11.59.798335@moria.lan...
>> On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:00:28 +0000, Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
>>
>>> and shareholders suffer while GM pays GM Chief a crap load of
>>> money....
>>
>> Ahhh. You're a socialist/Lib/Dimocrat, eh?
>
> Umm, for thinking the shareholders should not suffer losing money
> while the GM Chief is paid an insane amount of money?
>
> How did you get "socialist democrat" from thinking the shareholders
> should be treated right?

why haven't the SHAREHOLDERS corrrected this?
>
> Folks, above, I would like you observe what it is like to be
> brainwashed by one of the various political sides. Anytime a company
> gets questioned about ethics, there is always an extreme conservative
> who thinks it is socialist to suggest a company have such.
>
>

it's socialist/communist to think that involving Government in regulating
such affairs is the solution. Or any sort of "excess profit" taxation.

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Re: GM Closes 4 Suv and Truck Plants
 

Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
> and shareholders suffer while GM pays GM Chief a crap load of money....
>
> The best quote:
> "We either need to change this company or have the Japanese come in and run
> the whole place," John Lauve
>
>
> http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080603/gm_sh...ders.html?.v=5
>

troll

Re: GM Closes 4 Suv and Truck Plants
 

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:ucSdnRWhqPCtYNjVnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
>> and shareholders suffer while GM pays GM Chief a crap load of money....
>>
>> The best quote:
>> "We either need to change this company or have the Japanese come in and
>> run the whole place," John Lauve
>>
>>
>> http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080603/gm_sh...ders.html?.v=5
>>
>
> troll

Okay, you go to plonky town.. Buh Bye! PLONK

Re: GM Closes 4 Suv and Truck Plants
 

Waiving the right to remain silent, Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid>
said:

> On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:48:17 +0000, Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
>
>>>> and shareholders suffer while GM pays GM Chief a crap load of
>>>> money....
>
>>> Ahhh. You're a socialist/Lib/Dimocrat, eh?
>
>> Umm, for thinking the shareholders should not suffer losing money while
>> the GM Chief is paid an insane amount of money?
>
> It's a fact of life, Junior. Sometimes shareholders lose money. That's
> the way the stock market and the free enterprise system works. As for
> the CEO making an "insane" amount of money... well, it's certainly more
> than other GM employees make, but that's (also) how things work. Those
> in charge get paid more. Simple fact of life. Perhaps if you had more
> education, you could make some money, yourself!

Hey -for-brains... For presiding over a $39 Billion loss, he got a 64
percent raise.

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Re: GM Closes 4 Suv and Truck Plants
 

Waiving the right to remain silent, Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> said:

> On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:00:28 +0000, Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
>
>> and shareholders suffer while GM pays GM Chief a crap load of money....
>
> Ahhh. You're a socialist/Lib/Dimocrat, eh?

You don't have to be a socialist/lib/democrat to see a fraud like the one at
GM...

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"A lack of common sense is now considered a disability,
with all the privileges that this entails."

Re: GM Closes 4 Suv and Truck Plants
 

Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
> "jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
> news:ucSdnRWhqPCtYNjVnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>> Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
>>> and shareholders suffer while GM pays GM Chief a crap load of money....
>>>
>>> The best quote:
>>> "We either need to change this company or have the Japanese come in and
>>> run the whole place," John Lauve
>>>
>>>
>>> http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080603/gm_sh...ders.html?.v=5
>>>
>> troll
>
> Okay, you go to plonky town.. Buh Bye! PLONK
>
>

let's see how this works:

1. you repeatedly troll.

2. i call you on it.

3. you stick your head in the sand.

doesn't seem very smart. or social. but i guess problems with social
interaction are why you're trolling in the first place.

Re: GM Closes 4 Suv and Truck Plants
 

On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:07:39 -0500, Dan C
<youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote:

>On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:48:17 +0000, Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
>
>>>> and shareholders suffer while GM pays GM Chief a crap load of money....
>
>>> Ahhh. You're a socialist/Lib/Dimocrat, eh?
>
>> Umm, for thinking the shareholders should not suffer losing money while the
>> GM Chief is paid an insane amount of money?
>
>It's a fact of life, Junior. Sometimes shareholders lose money. That's
>the way the stock market and the free enterprise system works. As for the
>CEO making an "insane" amount of money... well, it's certainly more than
>other GM employees make, but that's (also) how things work. Those in
>charge get paid more. Simple fact of life. Perhaps if you had more
>education, you could make some money, yourself!

Here is a fact for you. Rick Wagoner, CEO of GM got total
compensation last year of over $14 million. That is more than the
compensation of the CEO and the 36 board members of Honda Motor
Company combined. Honda had record sales last month. How is GM
doing? Oh, that's right, the death spiral thing - never mind.

Anyway, US executives are paid obscene amounts of money not just in
comparison to "other employees," but compared to their foreign
counterparts. Hard to see the value here. The truth is that American
companies are - more and more - being run for the benefit of the
executives rather than the stockholders or, god forbid, the mainstream
workers.

Re: GM Closes 4 Suv and Truck Plants
 

On 4 Jun 2008 02:18:01 GMT, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:


>
>it's socialist/communist to think that involving Government in regulating
>such affairs is the solution. Or any sort of "excess profit" taxation.

Not much risk of that with GM involved.

Re: GM Closes 4 Suv and Truck Plants
 

Jim Yanik wrote:
> "Don't Taze Me, Bro!" <One187@NoWhere.Com> wrote in
> news:Bvm1k.9117$jX.8234@trnddc04:
>
>> "Dan C" <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2008.06.04.01.11.59.798335@moria.lan...
>>> On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:00:28 +0000, Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
>>>
>>>> and shareholders suffer while GM pays GM Chief a crap load of
>>>> money....
>>> Ahhh. You're a socialist/Lib/Dimocrat, eh?
>> Umm, for thinking the shareholders should not suffer losing money
>> while the GM Chief is paid an insane amount of money?
>>
>> How did you get "socialist democrat" from thinking the shareholders
>> should be treated right?
>
> why haven't the SHAREHOLDERS corrrected this?
>> Folks, above, I would like you observe what it is like to be
>> brainwashed by one of the various political sides. Anytime a company
>> gets questioned about ethics, there is always an extreme conservative
>> who thinks it is socialist to suggest a company have such.
>>
>>
>
> it's socialist/communist to think that involving Government in regulating
> such affairs is the solution. Or any sort of "excess profit" taxation.
>

Who mentioned the government?

Re: GM Closes 4 Suv and Truck Plants
 

"Dan C" <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote in message
news:pan.2008.06.04.01.11.59.798335@moria.lan...
> On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:00:28 +0000, Don't Taze Me, Bro! wrote:
>
>> and shareholders suffer while GM pays GM Chief a crap load of money....
>
> Ahhh. You're a socialist/Lib/Dimocrat, eh?
>
> <snip>


I'm sure Republican shareholders are just as pissed off as anyone else.

You know that. But you needed to say something. Anything. Even if it made no
sense.