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Re: GM U.S. July sales down 19.5 percent, Honda up 10.2%
Mike Hunter wrote: > Toyota and Honda sales are bolstered by the midget cars that are in vogue > today. GM and Ford do not offer midget cars. Seems to me that is > temporary. Midget car buyers are not generally the average US new vehicle > buyers that buys a new vehicle every three or four years. Fords hit was the > F150, but it is end of the model year. Major F150 buyers will soon be > buying 2007s, not leftovers. The main F150 assembly plant in St. Paul is just coming back form a many-week furlogh, with discussions of going to just one shift instead of two, and mgmt hinting of more furloughs later this year. |
Re: GM U.S. July sales down 19.5 percent, Honda up 10.2%
Mike Hunter wrote: > Toyota and Honda sales are bolstered by the midget cars that are in vogue > today. GM and Ford do not offer midget cars. Seems to me that is > temporary. Midget car buyers are not generally the average US new vehicle > buyers that buys a new vehicle every three or four years. Fords hit was the > F150, but it is end of the model year. Major F150 buyers will soon be > buying 2007s, not leftovers. The main F150 assembly plant in St. Paul is just coming back form a many-week furlogh, with discussions of going to just one shift instead of two, and mgmt hinting of more furloughs later this year. |
Re: GM U.S. July sales down 19.5 percent, Honda up 10.2%
Mike Hunter wrote: > Toyota and Honda sales are bolstered by the midget cars that are in vogue > today. GM and Ford do not offer midget cars. Seems to me that is > temporary. Midget car buyers are not generally the average US new vehicle > buyers that buys a new vehicle every three or four years. Fords hit was the > F150, but it is end of the model year. Major F150 buyers will soon be > buying 2007s, not leftovers. The main F150 assembly plant in St. Paul is just coming back form a many-week furlogh, with discussions of going to just one shift instead of two, and mgmt hinting of more furloughs later this year. |
Re: GM still outsell Honda
On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:20:01 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote: >That is true a recall simply means they have discover a problem and are >offering to fix it for free. However Ford has sold many million more >vehicles than Toyota, for the past eight years, and Ford is not under >indictment for trying to hide things for those eight years, as is the case >with Toyota Ford is lucky it never sold the Pinto (or much else) in Japan. The Japanese government takes public safety very seriously and they don't mind making an example out of any corporation/executive who puts it at risk. The Toyota recalls are world-wide. World-wide, Toyota sells more cars than Ford. Also, the Ford recall is a continuation from last year when they recalled over six million trucks for the same problem. > > >mike hunt > > >"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message >news:4oo5d21c9gufh3e0qtfitirbep42ctg4ds@4ax.com.. . >> On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:09:49 -0400, "Mike Hunter" >> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote: >> >>> Just a note, the manufacture >>>with the most vehicles recalled so far for 2006 is Toyota. ;) >> >> You know, Mike, recalls aren't the best way to measure quality. The >> problem is that the numbers fluctuate wildly. Yesterday Toyota seemed >> well out in front and then today, BAM. Out of nowhere comes Ford >> recalling 1.2 million trucks to take the lead. >> >> http://www.ktva.com/topstory/ci_4132474 >> > |
Re: GM still outsell Honda
On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:20:01 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote: >That is true a recall simply means they have discover a problem and are >offering to fix it for free. However Ford has sold many million more >vehicles than Toyota, for the past eight years, and Ford is not under >indictment for trying to hide things for those eight years, as is the case >with Toyota Ford is lucky it never sold the Pinto (or much else) in Japan. The Japanese government takes public safety very seriously and they don't mind making an example out of any corporation/executive who puts it at risk. The Toyota recalls are world-wide. World-wide, Toyota sells more cars than Ford. Also, the Ford recall is a continuation from last year when they recalled over six million trucks for the same problem. > > >mike hunt > > >"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message >news:4oo5d21c9gufh3e0qtfitirbep42ctg4ds@4ax.com.. . >> On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:09:49 -0400, "Mike Hunter" >> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote: >> >>> Just a note, the manufacture >>>with the most vehicles recalled so far for 2006 is Toyota. ;) >> >> You know, Mike, recalls aren't the best way to measure quality. The >> problem is that the numbers fluctuate wildly. Yesterday Toyota seemed >> well out in front and then today, BAM. Out of nowhere comes Ford >> recalling 1.2 million trucks to take the lead. >> >> http://www.ktva.com/topstory/ci_4132474 >> > |
Re: GM still outsell Honda
On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:20:01 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote: >That is true a recall simply means they have discover a problem and are >offering to fix it for free. However Ford has sold many million more >vehicles than Toyota, for the past eight years, and Ford is not under >indictment for trying to hide things for those eight years, as is the case >with Toyota Ford is lucky it never sold the Pinto (or much else) in Japan. The Japanese government takes public safety very seriously and they don't mind making an example out of any corporation/executive who puts it at risk. The Toyota recalls are world-wide. World-wide, Toyota sells more cars than Ford. Also, the Ford recall is a continuation from last year when they recalled over six million trucks for the same problem. > > >mike hunt > > >"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message >news:4oo5d21c9gufh3e0qtfitirbep42ctg4ds@4ax.com.. . >> On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 14:09:49 -0400, "Mike Hunter" >> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote: >> >>> Just a note, the manufacture >>>with the most vehicles recalled so far for 2006 is Toyota. ;) >> >> You know, Mike, recalls aren't the best way to measure quality. The >> problem is that the numbers fluctuate wildly. Yesterday Toyota seemed >> well out in front and then today, BAM. Out of nowhere comes Ford >> recalling 1.2 million trucks to take the lead. >> >> http://www.ktva.com/topstory/ci_4132474 >> > |
Re: GM still outsell Honda
Obviously you prefer to believe only those things you chose to believe, and
will not change, even though Ford was exonerated in all three instances. Search the NHTSA and the Congressional Record for the facts, WBMA. ;) mike "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3rJAg.8$l95.5@trnddc08... > Mike Hunter wrote: >> That is true a recall simply means they have discover a problem and are >> offering to fix it for free. However Ford has sold many million more >> vehicles than Toyota, for the past eight years, and Ford is not under >> indictment for trying to hide things for those eight years, as is the >> case with Toyota >> >> >> mike hunt > > > Then of course you have the exploding Ford Police Interceptor problem, the > old exploding Pintos, etc. Oh yeah, and the flipping Explorer fiasco > where Ford and Firestone formed a circular firing squad to assign blame, > after denying for years that there was any problem at all. > > John > |
Re: GM still outsell Honda
Obviously you prefer to believe only those things you chose to believe, and
will not change, even though Ford was exonerated in all three instances. Search the NHTSA and the Congressional Record for the facts, WBMA. ;) mike "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3rJAg.8$l95.5@trnddc08... > Mike Hunter wrote: >> That is true a recall simply means they have discover a problem and are >> offering to fix it for free. However Ford has sold many million more >> vehicles than Toyota, for the past eight years, and Ford is not under >> indictment for trying to hide things for those eight years, as is the >> case with Toyota >> >> >> mike hunt > > > Then of course you have the exploding Ford Police Interceptor problem, the > old exploding Pintos, etc. Oh yeah, and the flipping Explorer fiasco > where Ford and Firestone formed a circular firing squad to assign blame, > after denying for years that there was any problem at all. > > John > |
Re: GM still outsell Honda
Obviously you prefer to believe only those things you chose to believe, and
will not change, even though Ford was exonerated in all three instances. Search the NHTSA and the Congressional Record for the facts, WBMA. ;) mike "John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3rJAg.8$l95.5@trnddc08... > Mike Hunter wrote: >> That is true a recall simply means they have discover a problem and are >> offering to fix it for free. However Ford has sold many million more >> vehicles than Toyota, for the past eight years, and Ford is not under >> indictment for trying to hide things for those eight years, as is the >> case with Toyota >> >> >> mike hunt > > > Then of course you have the exploding Ford Police Interceptor problem, the > old exploding Pintos, etc. Oh yeah, and the flipping Explorer fiasco > where Ford and Firestone formed a circular firing squad to assign blame, > after denying for years that there was any problem at all. > > John > |
Re: GM still outsells Honda
You must have missed the part of my post that said; 'an opinion based on
your particular experience.' The facts, as I know them from serving thousands of corporate and government fleets in six states, are quite different. You are entitled to you own opinion, based on your personal experience with ONE vehicle in ONE fleet, but not your own facts pertaining to fleets in general ;) mike hunt "N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1154702724.309526.159150@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com... > > Mike Hunter wrote: > >> >> "N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1154653572.621516.98080@75g2000cwc.googlegrou ps.com... >> > >> > Mike Hunter wrote: >> > >> >> You have no idea what you are talking about. Fleet buyers do a far >> >> better >> >> job of maintaining their vehicles than the average owner. How may >> >> owners >> >> do you know that do things like changes brake fluid do pressure tests >> >> monthly, take off door panels to lubricate window actuators, take >> >> apart >> >> and >> >> clean electrical connectors etc? >> >> >> >> To a corporate fleet a vehicle is a 'tool' needed to run their >> >> business. >> >> Down time costs money. They generally keep them in service for five >> >> years >> >> or 300K WOF, because of federal deprecation tax laws. Many keep them >> >> even >> >> longer. >> >> >> To government fleets, maintenance is primary as well. To a police >> >> officer his patrol car is as important as his weapon, it has to work >> >> properly or it could cost him his life One state police department >> >> that >> >> we >> >> serviced, has Jeeps Cherokees from the eighties, with over 200k on the >> >> clock >> >> and still in tip top shape, in use in mountainous parts of the state.\ >> >> >> The only high volume buyers that don't care about their cars are most >> >> of >> >> the >> >> rental car companies. Top fluids and get it back on the road. The >> >> difference is to a rental car company vehicles are NOT a tool, but >> >> their >> >> product that they get rid off in a year or less. >> > >> > IME the fleet services treat the cars exactly like rental cars. When >> > they are turned in at 70K miles they are just about smack wore out >> > (well at least the Impalas the company that services the company that I >> > work for uses are!) > >> > nate >> > >> At least you prefaced your post as your opinion because that is all it >> is, >> an opinion based on your particular experience. The facts are as I >> presented them, but you are free to believe whatever you chose. >> >> mike hunt >> > > IME = "In My Experience" not Opinion. Opinion begins with an "O." It > is a fact that MY fleet vehicle will be turned in at 70K miles, and it > is a fact that the only maintenance it gets is an oil change every 7K > miles and whatever extra service that I personally request. > > nate > |
Re: GM still outsells Honda
You must have missed the part of my post that said; 'an opinion based on
your particular experience.' The facts, as I know them from serving thousands of corporate and government fleets in six states, are quite different. You are entitled to you own opinion, based on your personal experience with ONE vehicle in ONE fleet, but not your own facts pertaining to fleets in general ;) mike hunt "N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1154702724.309526.159150@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com... > > Mike Hunter wrote: > >> >> "N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1154653572.621516.98080@75g2000cwc.googlegrou ps.com... >> > >> > Mike Hunter wrote: >> > >> >> You have no idea what you are talking about. Fleet buyers do a far >> >> better >> >> job of maintaining their vehicles than the average owner. How may >> >> owners >> >> do you know that do things like changes brake fluid do pressure tests >> >> monthly, take off door panels to lubricate window actuators, take >> >> apart >> >> and >> >> clean electrical connectors etc? >> >> >> >> To a corporate fleet a vehicle is a 'tool' needed to run their >> >> business. >> >> Down time costs money. They generally keep them in service for five >> >> years >> >> or 300K WOF, because of federal deprecation tax laws. Many keep them >> >> even >> >> longer. >> >> >> To government fleets, maintenance is primary as well. To a police >> >> officer his patrol car is as important as his weapon, it has to work >> >> properly or it could cost him his life One state police department >> >> that >> >> we >> >> serviced, has Jeeps Cherokees from the eighties, with over 200k on the >> >> clock >> >> and still in tip top shape, in use in mountainous parts of the state.\ >> >> >> The only high volume buyers that don't care about their cars are most >> >> of >> >> the >> >> rental car companies. Top fluids and get it back on the road. The >> >> difference is to a rental car company vehicles are NOT a tool, but >> >> their >> >> product that they get rid off in a year or less. >> > >> > IME the fleet services treat the cars exactly like rental cars. When >> > they are turned in at 70K miles they are just about smack wore out >> > (well at least the Impalas the company that services the company that I >> > work for uses are!) > >> > nate >> > >> At least you prefaced your post as your opinion because that is all it >> is, >> an opinion based on your particular experience. The facts are as I >> presented them, but you are free to believe whatever you chose. >> >> mike hunt >> > > IME = "In My Experience" not Opinion. Opinion begins with an "O." It > is a fact that MY fleet vehicle will be turned in at 70K miles, and it > is a fact that the only maintenance it gets is an oil change every 7K > miles and whatever extra service that I personally request. > > nate > |
Re: GM still outsells Honda
You must have missed the part of my post that said; 'an opinion based on
your particular experience.' The facts, as I know them from serving thousands of corporate and government fleets in six states, are quite different. You are entitled to you own opinion, based on your personal experience with ONE vehicle in ONE fleet, but not your own facts pertaining to fleets in general ;) mike hunt "N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1154702724.309526.159150@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com... > > Mike Hunter wrote: > >> >> "N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1154653572.621516.98080@75g2000cwc.googlegrou ps.com... >> > >> > Mike Hunter wrote: >> > >> >> You have no idea what you are talking about. Fleet buyers do a far >> >> better >> >> job of maintaining their vehicles than the average owner. How may >> >> owners >> >> do you know that do things like changes brake fluid do pressure tests >> >> monthly, take off door panels to lubricate window actuators, take >> >> apart >> >> and >> >> clean electrical connectors etc? >> >> >> >> To a corporate fleet a vehicle is a 'tool' needed to run their >> >> business. >> >> Down time costs money. They generally keep them in service for five >> >> years >> >> or 300K WOF, because of federal deprecation tax laws. Many keep them >> >> even >> >> longer. >> >> >> To government fleets, maintenance is primary as well. To a police >> >> officer his patrol car is as important as his weapon, it has to work >> >> properly or it could cost him his life One state police department >> >> that >> >> we >> >> serviced, has Jeeps Cherokees from the eighties, with over 200k on the >> >> clock >> >> and still in tip top shape, in use in mountainous parts of the state.\ >> >> >> The only high volume buyers that don't care about their cars are most >> >> of >> >> the >> >> rental car companies. Top fluids and get it back on the road. The >> >> difference is to a rental car company vehicles are NOT a tool, but >> >> their >> >> product that they get rid off in a year or less. >> > >> > IME the fleet services treat the cars exactly like rental cars. When >> > they are turned in at 70K miles they are just about smack wore out >> > (well at least the Impalas the company that services the company that I >> > work for uses are!) > >> > nate >> > >> At least you prefaced your post as your opinion because that is all it >> is, >> an opinion based on your particular experience. The facts are as I >> presented them, but you are free to believe whatever you chose. >> >> mike hunt >> > > IME = "In My Experience" not Opinion. Opinion begins with an "O." It > is a fact that MY fleet vehicle will be turned in at 70K miles, and it > is a fact that the only maintenance it gets is an oil change every 7K > miles and whatever extra service that I personally request. > > nate > |
Re: GM still outsells Honda
At least two; the last company I worked for had a similar vehicle
program. Oddly enough we're talking about two of the very largest corporations in the entire world. nate Mike Hunter wrote: > You must have missed the part of my post that said; 'an opinion based on > your particular experience.' The facts, as I know them from serving > thousands of corporate and government fleets in six states, are quite > different. You are entitled to you own opinion, based on your personal > experience with ONE vehicle in ONE fleet, but not your own facts pertaining > to fleets in general ;) > > > mike hunt > > > "N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:1154702724.309526.159150@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com... > >>Mike Hunter wrote: >> >> >>>"N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>news:1154653572.621516.98080@75g2000cwc.googleg roups.com... >>> >>>>Mike Hunter wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>You have no idea what you are talking about. Fleet buyers do a far >>>>>better >>>>>job of maintaining their vehicles than the average owner. How may >>>>>owners >>>>>do you know that do things like changes brake fluid do pressure tests >>>>>monthly, take off door panels to lubricate window actuators, take >>>>>apart >>>>>and >>>>>clean electrical connectors etc? >>>>> >>>>> To a corporate fleet a vehicle is a 'tool' needed to run their >>>>>business. >>>>>Down time costs money. They generally keep them in service for five >>>>>years >>>>>or 300K WOF, because of federal deprecation tax laws. Many keep them >>>>>even >>>>>longer. >>> >>>>>To government fleets, maintenance is primary as well. To a police >>>>>officer his patrol car is as important as his weapon, it has to work >>>>>properly or it could cost him his life One state police department >>>>>that >>>>>we >>>>>serviced, has Jeeps Cherokees from the eighties, with over 200k on the >>>>>clock >>>>>and still in tip top shape, in use in mountainous parts of the state.\ >>> >>>>>The only high volume buyers that don't care about their cars are most >>>>>of >>>>>the >>>>>rental car companies. Top fluids and get it back on the road. The >>>>>difference is to a rental car company vehicles are NOT a tool, but >>>>>their >>>>>product that they get rid off in a year or less. >>>> >>>>IME the fleet services treat the cars exactly like rental cars. When >>>>they are turned in at 70K miles they are just about smack wore out >>>>(well at least the Impalas the company that services the company that I >>>>work for uses are!) > >>>>nate >>>> >>> >>>At least you prefaced your post as your opinion because that is all it >>>is, >>>an opinion based on your particular experience. The facts are as I >>>presented them, but you are free to believe whatever you chose. >>> >>>mike hunt >>> >> >>IME = "In My Experience" not Opinion. Opinion begins with an "O." It >>is a fact that MY fleet vehicle will be turned in at 70K miles, and it >>is a fact that the only maintenance it gets is an oil change every 7K >>miles and whatever extra service that I personally request. >> >>nate >> > > > -- replace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel |
Re: GM still outsells Honda
At least two; the last company I worked for had a similar vehicle
program. Oddly enough we're talking about two of the very largest corporations in the entire world. nate Mike Hunter wrote: > You must have missed the part of my post that said; 'an opinion based on > your particular experience.' The facts, as I know them from serving > thousands of corporate and government fleets in six states, are quite > different. You are entitled to you own opinion, based on your personal > experience with ONE vehicle in ONE fleet, but not your own facts pertaining > to fleets in general ;) > > > mike hunt > > > "N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:1154702724.309526.159150@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com... > >>Mike Hunter wrote: >> >> >>>"N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>news:1154653572.621516.98080@75g2000cwc.googleg roups.com... >>> >>>>Mike Hunter wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>You have no idea what you are talking about. Fleet buyers do a far >>>>>better >>>>>job of maintaining their vehicles than the average owner. How may >>>>>owners >>>>>do you know that do things like changes brake fluid do pressure tests >>>>>monthly, take off door panels to lubricate window actuators, take >>>>>apart >>>>>and >>>>>clean electrical connectors etc? >>>>> >>>>> To a corporate fleet a vehicle is a 'tool' needed to run their >>>>>business. >>>>>Down time costs money. They generally keep them in service for five >>>>>years >>>>>or 300K WOF, because of federal deprecation tax laws. Many keep them >>>>>even >>>>>longer. >>> >>>>>To government fleets, maintenance is primary as well. To a police >>>>>officer his patrol car is as important as his weapon, it has to work >>>>>properly or it could cost him his life One state police department >>>>>that >>>>>we >>>>>serviced, has Jeeps Cherokees from the eighties, with over 200k on the >>>>>clock >>>>>and still in tip top shape, in use in mountainous parts of the state.\ >>> >>>>>The only high volume buyers that don't care about their cars are most >>>>>of >>>>>the >>>>>rental car companies. Top fluids and get it back on the road. The >>>>>difference is to a rental car company vehicles are NOT a tool, but >>>>>their >>>>>product that they get rid off in a year or less. >>>> >>>>IME the fleet services treat the cars exactly like rental cars. When >>>>they are turned in at 70K miles they are just about smack wore out >>>>(well at least the Impalas the company that services the company that I >>>>work for uses are!) > >>>>nate >>>> >>> >>>At least you prefaced your post as your opinion because that is all it >>>is, >>>an opinion based on your particular experience. The facts are as I >>>presented them, but you are free to believe whatever you chose. >>> >>>mike hunt >>> >> >>IME = "In My Experience" not Opinion. Opinion begins with an "O." It >>is a fact that MY fleet vehicle will be turned in at 70K miles, and it >>is a fact that the only maintenance it gets is an oil change every 7K >>miles and whatever extra service that I personally request. >> >>nate >> > > > -- replace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel |
Re: GM still outsells Honda
At least two; the last company I worked for had a similar vehicle
program. Oddly enough we're talking about two of the very largest corporations in the entire world. nate Mike Hunter wrote: > You must have missed the part of my post that said; 'an opinion based on > your particular experience.' The facts, as I know them from serving > thousands of corporate and government fleets in six states, are quite > different. You are entitled to you own opinion, based on your personal > experience with ONE vehicle in ONE fleet, but not your own facts pertaining > to fleets in general ;) > > > mike hunt > > > "N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:1154702724.309526.159150@h48g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com... > >>Mike Hunter wrote: >> >> >>>"N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>news:1154653572.621516.98080@75g2000cwc.googleg roups.com... >>> >>>>Mike Hunter wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>You have no idea what you are talking about. Fleet buyers do a far >>>>>better >>>>>job of maintaining their vehicles than the average owner. How may >>>>>owners >>>>>do you know that do things like changes brake fluid do pressure tests >>>>>monthly, take off door panels to lubricate window actuators, take >>>>>apart >>>>>and >>>>>clean electrical connectors etc? >>>>> >>>>> To a corporate fleet a vehicle is a 'tool' needed to run their >>>>>business. >>>>>Down time costs money. They generally keep them in service for five >>>>>years >>>>>or 300K WOF, because of federal deprecation tax laws. Many keep them >>>>>even >>>>>longer. >>> >>>>>To government fleets, maintenance is primary as well. To a police >>>>>officer his patrol car is as important as his weapon, it has to work >>>>>properly or it could cost him his life One state police department >>>>>that >>>>>we >>>>>serviced, has Jeeps Cherokees from the eighties, with over 200k on the >>>>>clock >>>>>and still in tip top shape, in use in mountainous parts of the state.\ >>> >>>>>The only high volume buyers that don't care about their cars are most >>>>>of >>>>>the >>>>>rental car companies. Top fluids and get it back on the road. The >>>>>difference is to a rental car company vehicles are NOT a tool, but >>>>>their >>>>>product that they get rid off in a year or less. >>>> >>>>IME the fleet services treat the cars exactly like rental cars. When >>>>they are turned in at 70K miles they are just about smack wore out >>>>(well at least the Impalas the company that services the company that I >>>>work for uses are!) > >>>>nate >>>> >>> >>>At least you prefaced your post as your opinion because that is all it >>>is, >>>an opinion based on your particular experience. The facts are as I >>>presented them, but you are free to believe whatever you chose. >>> >>>mike hunt >>> >> >>IME = "In My Experience" not Opinion. Opinion begins with an "O." It >>is a fact that MY fleet vehicle will be turned in at 70K miles, and it >>is a fact that the only maintenance it gets is an oil change every 7K >>miles and whatever extra service that I personally request. >> >>nate >> > > > -- replace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel |
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