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Rob B 01-13-2006 09:34 PM

poll - high mileage civics, what oil U burn ?
 
i switched from penzoil to castrol GTX to (mobil 1 + mobil 5000 blend)

now it seems to burn more oil or leak more (maybe not related) but wondering
what oil you high mileage civic DIYrs are using ?

robb




Grumpy AuContraire 01-13-2006 10:00 PM

Re: poll - high mileage civics, what oil U burn ?
 


Rob B wrote:
>
> i switched from penzoil to castrol GTX to (mobil 1 + mobil 5000 blend)
>
> now it seems to burn more oil or leak more (maybe not related) but wondering
> what oil you high mileage civic DIYrs are using ?
>
> robb



Synthetics will always find a place to leak if the seal system is old or weak.

Better to have stuck with the Castrol. Penzoil is crap.

JT

TeGGeR® 01-13-2006 10:19 PM

Re: poll - high mileage civics, what oil U burn ?
 
"Rob B" <RobB@where.on.net> wrote in
news:grZxf.7917$%W1.5737@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net:

> i switched from penzoil to castrol GTX to (mobil 1 + mobil 5000 blend)
>
> now it seems to burn more oil or leak more (maybe not related) but
> wondering what oil you high mileage civic DIYrs are using ?
>
> robb
>
>
>



yo d00d.

got A hi-mileage Teg, dig? yo

it g0t 257k mi on It

i always use castrol gtx 5W-30 from mile 1 (bot nu, yo)

oil consumPtion be 2k mi to the qt no leaks yo

dig?


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Eric 01-14-2006 01:11 AM

Re: poll - high mileage civics, what oil U burn ?
 
Rob B wrote:
>
> i switched from penzoil to castrol GTX to (mobil 1 + mobil 5000 blend)
>
> now it seems to burn more oil or leak more (maybe not related) but
> wondering what oil you high mileage civic DIYrs are using ?
>


> high mileage civics


'88 Civic DX.
242,000 mi.

> what oil U burn ?


It burns gas not oil, no leaks either.
I don't need to add any between 3K mi oil change intervals.
Castrol GTX 10w/40 nearly all of it's life.

If your car insists on burning oil instead of gas, then you might need to
check the PCV valve. Wait, do you have one of those high flow air filters?
As discussed previously on this newsgroup, they lead to accelerated aging of
your engine.

Rob B 01-14-2006 01:59 AM

Re: poll - high mileage civics, what oil U burn ?
 

"Eric" <say.no@spam.now> wrote in message news:43C89608.A2AB369@spam.now...
> Rob B wrote:
> >
> > i switched from penzoil to castrol GTX to (mobil 1 + mobil 5000 blend)
> >
> > now it seems to burn more oil or leak more (maybe not related) but
> > wondering what oil you high mileage civic DIYrs are using ?
> >

>
> > high mileage civics

>
> '88 Civic DX.
> 242,000 mi.
>
> > what oil U burn ?

>
> It burns gas not oil, no leaks either.
> I don't need to add any between 3K mi oil change intervals.
> Castrol GTX 10w/40 nearly all of it's life.
>
> If your car insists on burning oil instead of gas, then you might need to
> check the PCV valve. Wait, do you have one of those high flow air

filters?
> As discussed previously on this newsgroup, they lead to accelerated aging

of
> your engine.


i have 197k '93 civic
no performance anything added, just stock car with only oem standard parts

maybe switch back to castrol gtx next oil change

thanks for info




Rob B 01-14-2006 02:17 AM

Re: poll - high mileage civics, what oil U burn ?
 

"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns974AE34639B94tegger@207.14.113.17...
> "Rob B" <RobB@where.on.net> wrote in
> news:grZxf.7917$%W1.5737@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net:
>
> > i switched from penzoil to castrol GTX to (mobil 1 + mobil 5000 blend)
> >
> > now it seems to burn more oil or leak more (maybe not related) but
> > wondering what oil you high mileage civic DIYrs are using ?
> >
> > robb
> >

>
> yo d00d.
>
> got A hi-mileage Teg, dig? yo
>
> it g0t 257k mi on It
>
> i always use castrol gtx 5W-30 from mile 1 (bot nu, yo)
>
> oil consumPtion be 2k mi to the qt no leaks yo
>
> dig?
>


Dear teggy,
May this news post find you well. You seem a bit taxed, drawn or drunken. Ah
yes, there is the information i had requested in the original posting to
this news group. Castrol GTX 5w30 is the oil you wish to submit as your
champion in the lubrication of honda automobiles engines. Castrol GTX is
quite a fine choice in accordance with the many honda enthusiasts that
frequent this remarkable newsgroup.

I would like to thank you for taking the time from your exhausting day to
help an amateur car care person wrangle a few more miles out the beloved
asphalt chariot.

Thanks again,
robb



Rob B 01-14-2006 02:19 AM

Re: poll - high mileage civics, what oil U burn ?
 

"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
news:43C86A18.BF44EC2E@GrumpyvilleNOT.com...
>
>
> Rob B wrote:
> >
> > i switched from penzoil to castrol GTX to (mobil 1 + mobil 5000 blend)
> >
> > now it seems to burn more oil or leak more (maybe not related) but

wondering
> > what oil you high mileage civic DIYrs are using ?
> >
> > robb

>
>
> Synthetics will always find a place to leak if the seal system is old or

weak.
>
> Better to have stuck with the Castrol. Penzoil is crap.
>
> JT


Thanks, i'll be switching back to castrol GTX, seems to be popular choice
robb



SoCalMike 01-14-2006 04:02 AM

Re: poll - high mileage civics, what oil U burn ?
 
Eric wrote:
> Rob B wrote:
>> i switched from penzoil to castrol GTX to (mobil 1 + mobil 5000 blend)
>>
>> now it seems to burn more oil or leak more (maybe not related) but
>> wondering what oil you high mileage civic DIYrs are using ?
>>

>
>> high mileage civics

>
> '88 Civic DX.
> 242,000 mi.
>
>> what oil U burn ?

>
> It burns gas not oil, no leaks either.
> I don't need to add any between 3K mi oil change intervals.
> Castrol GTX 10w/40 nearly all of it's life.
>
> If your car insists on burning oil instead of gas, then you might need to
> check the PCV valve. Wait, do you have one of those high flow air filters?
> As discussed previously on this newsgroup, they lead to accelerated aging of
> your engine.



and depletion of your wallet.

almost all the motorcycles ive had for the past 15 years have OEM foam
filters. the one on my 400cc even has 2 layers with 2 different densities.

the outer layer is 1/3rd the thickness of the filter and uses a really
porous foam, like some home air filtration systems use. the inner 2/3rds
are more dense, like eggcrate foam.

take it out, clean in hot soapy water, gently wring and squeeze dry in a
towel, then spray a light coat of foam filter oil on it.

if honda can design cars with 100k spark plugs and "lifetime" gas
filters, why not have an OEM cleanable foam filter? would it require too
big an airbox to get the proper flow rate between cleanings?

merlotbrougham@hotmail.com 01-14-2006 07:51 AM

Re: poll - high mileage civics, what oil U burn ?
 
Rob B wrote:
> i switched from penzoil to castrol GTX to (mobil 1 + mobil 5000 blend)
>
> now it seems to burn more oil or leak more (maybe not related) but wondering
> what oil you high mileage civic DIYrs are using ?
>
> robb


'92 EX 138k miles. Mobil 1. I think I haven't had any problems caused
by the oil in any car or motorbike as long as it's changed on occasion.


TeGGeR® 01-14-2006 09:11 AM

Re: poll - high mileage civics, what oil U burn ?
 
"Rob B" <RobB@where.on.net> wrote in
news:5A1yf.9204$M%4.5554@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net:

>


<snip gibberish>


>>

>
> Dear teggy,
> May this news post find you well. You seem a bit taxed, drawn or
> drunken.




Yeah, you're right. I had six beers and made a dumb post. Sorry about that.

I was making fun of your poor capitalization, something exhibited by many
youthful posters who think it's cool or avant garde, but which I find
unimpressive.




> Ah yes, there is the information i had requested in the
> original posting to this news group. Castrol GTX 5w30 is the oil you
> wish to submit as your champion in the lubrication of honda
> automobiles engines. Castrol GTX is quite a fine choice in accordance
> with the many honda enthusiasts that frequent this remarkable
> newsgroup.




The reason I originally started using Castrol GTX was because of a test of
various oils done by Consumer Reports about about fifteen years ago.
Castrol GTX was one of the top-rated oils in those tests.

Surely things have changed since then, as oil formulations now are rather
different than they were in 1991. Engine metallurgy is not greatly changed
from fifteen years ago, but engine lubricating oils are vastly improved
overall with regard to performance in engines, even with the reductions in
zinc and sulfur. However but I've found no compelling reason to switch to
another brand of oil.

My personal suspicion is that the type of oil one uses is relatively
unimportant compared to oil and filter change frequency.




>
> I would like to thank you for taking the time from your exhausting day
> to help an amateur car care person wrangle a few more miles out the
> beloved asphalt chariot.




Don't I sound more coherent this morning?




--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Fred Fartalot 01-14-2006 10:13 AM

Re: poll - high mileage civics, what oil U burn ?
 
I had a 1986 Subaru hatchback. Used 10-30, changed oil alway between 5,000
and 6,000 miles. Went 305,000 miles over 11 years before I sold it with NO
engine problems. (kept it tuned up and otherwise maintained of course). I
would have kept it longer just to see how long engine would last except it
rusted out pretty bad.

This 3,000 mile oil change stuff is unecessary and wastefull and a lot of
crap just to sell oil changes IMO. As for synthentic oil, dirt still gets
in and churns around just like with ordinary oil so I believe it should be
changed just as frequently so why pay more for it?




"Rob B" <RobB@where.on.net> wrote in message
news:grZxf.7917$%W1.5737@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>i switched from penzoil to castrol GTX to (mobil 1 + mobil 5000 blend)
>
> now it seems to burn more oil or leak more (maybe not related) but
> wondering
> what oil you high mileage civic DIYrs are using ?
>
> robb
>
>
>




Rob B 01-14-2006 01:00 PM

Re: poll - high mileage civics, what oil U burn ?
 

"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns974B5DB81B7E1tegger@207.14.113.17...
> "Rob B" <RobB@where.on.net> wrote in
> news:5A1yf.9204$M%4.5554@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net:
>
> <snip gibberish>
> >
> > Dear teggy,
> > May this news post find you well. You seem a bit taxed, drawn or
> > drunken.

>
> Yeah, you're right. I had six beers and made a dumb post. Sorry about

that.
>
> I was making fun of your poor capitalization, something exhibited by many
> youthful posters who think it's cool or avant garde, but which I find
> unimpressive.
>


well i consider myself youthful (in spirit) but that is relative and i am
certainly not cool i am just practical / lazy

i am a three finger typist, finding shift with pinky and then hunting for
the letter causes 2 problems (1) too much time or (2) hitting caps lock ,
then backspace alot and start again which violates problem 1

also an unfortunate problem derived from my early carreer, a problem not
unlike those old draftsmen engineers that write everything in CAPITAL BLOCK
LETTERS

>
> > Ah yes, there is the information i had requested in the
> > original posting to this news group. Castrol GTX 5w30 is the oil you
> > wish to submit as your champion in the lubrication of honda
> > automobiles engines. Castrol GTX is quite a fine choice in accordance
> > with the many honda enthusiasts that frequent this remarkable
> > newsgroup.

>
> The reason I originally started using Castrol GTX was because of a test of
> various oils done by Consumer Reports about about fifteen years ago.
> Castrol GTX was one of the top-rated oils in those tests.
>


i was going by some recent oil study surveys showing propeties such as
viscocity index, thermal break down (flash) and formulation additives
viscocity improvers, ( Eg Mobil 1 and Amsoil uses no viscocity improver
additives in the 5w30 and 10w30 oils)

high on list were... Amsoil, Red Line, Mobil 1, Castrol GTX

could not find Amsoil or Red Lne local but Mobil 1 can be found at wally
world

>
> Surely things have changed since then, as oil formulations now are rather
> different than they were in 1991. Engine metallurgy is not greatly changed
> from fifteen years ago, but engine lubricating oils are vastly improved
> overall with regard to performance in engines, even with the reductions in
> zinc and sulfur. However but I've found no compelling reason to switch to
> another brand of oil.
>
> My personal suspicion is that the type of oil one uses is relatively
> unimportant compared to oil and filter change frequency.
>
> >
> > I would like to thank you for taking the time from your exhausting day
> > to help an amateur car care person wrangle a few more miles out the
> > beloved asphalt chariot.

>
> Don't I sound more coherent this morning?
>


yes, welcome back ;)
I am thinking of kicking the synthetic habit , hope my asphalt chariot does
not get withdrawl symptoms
thanks for the info
robb



notbob 01-14-2006 02:38 PM

Re: poll - high mileage civics, what oil U burn ?
 
On 2006-01-14, Rob B <RobB@where.on.net> wrote:

> what oil you high mileage civic DIYrs are using ?


'87 Civic Si... 240K miles... Mobil 1. Rocker cover leaked, but
since repaired.

nb

Grumpy AuContraire 01-14-2006 08:03 PM

Re: poll - high mileage civics, what oil U burn ?
 


Fred Fartalot wrote:
>
> I had a 1986 Subaru hatchback. Used 10-30, changed oil alway between 5,000
> and 6,000 miles. Went 305,000 miles over 11 years before I sold it with NO
> engine problems. (kept it tuned up and otherwise maintained of course). I
> would have kept it longer just to see how long engine would last except it
> rusted out pretty bad.
>
> This 3,000 mile oil change stuff is unecessary and wastefull and a lot of
> crap just to sell oil changes IMO. As for synthentic oil, dirt still gets
> in and churns around just like with ordinary oil so I believe it should be
> changed just as frequently so why pay more for it?
>
>



GTX changed every 5K is fine. I prefer dino oil for engines because the
"crap" is manufactured during the combustion process and must be dealt
with regardless of the type of oil used.

JT

merlotbrougham@hotmail.com 01-14-2006 08:05 PM

Re: poll - high mileage civics, what oil U burn ?
 
Fred Fartalot wrote:
> I had a 1986 Subaru hatchback. Used 10-30, changed oil alway between 5,000
> and 6,000 miles. Went 305,000 miles over 11 years before I sold it with NO
> engine problems. (kept it tuned up and otherwise maintained of course). I
> would have kept it longer just to see how long engine would last except it
> rusted out pretty bad.
>
> This 3,000 mile oil change stuff is unecessary and wastefull and a lot of
> crap just to sell oil changes IMO. As for synthentic oil, dirt still gets
> in and churns around just like with ordinary oil so I believe it should be
> changed just as frequently so why pay more for it?


After all's said and done, probably peace of mind. There's no doubt
that synthetics and their additives are superior to dino oil, but I
don't know anyone who's had problems due to the oil either as long as
it's changed at relatively decent intervals. I start feeling guilty
after 5k or so without a change. A few extra bucks are OK with me. Yep-
Castrol would work just fine too.



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