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Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 16:44:05 -0600, TG wrote:
> Research the small aircraft groups or the FAA for Mobil 1 comments...you > will not like what you find. TG > > "John D." <jcdech@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:e821bab6.0307311648.6ba7ddc0@posting.google.c om... >> Bill, >> >> I know about that (now) but back then I should have at least >> researched the issue...I didn't know enough about synthetics then even >> to do that. As I said, however, Dino oil has served well, but I think >> the engine would be in better shape if I had changed over even 15 >> years ago if not in the 70s. >> >> NOW, the Internet (and UseNet of course) make it pretty easy to >> research something BEFORE buying it, if you don't have anyone >> knowledgable locally to ask. I didn't know ANYONE using Mobil 1 back >> then, hence it wasn't even an issue. >> >> John D. >> >> >> >> >> Bill Putney <peva@kinez.net> wrote in message > news:<3F2992B2.A3B234E8@kinez.net>... >> > "John D." wrote: >> > > ...If I had KNOWN way back then in 1973 that I was going >> > > to keep the car "indefinitely," I would have changed over to a >> > > synthetic motor oil! I just (1) didn't know I'd be keeping the car and >> > > (2) I really didn't know jack about synthetics...just plain ignorance. >> > >> > It's probably just as well that you didn't try Mobil 1 back in '73. In >> > their early years they had huge problems with getting the seal >> > swell/shrinkage part of the formulation right. People would switch over >> > to it and their engines would leak like sieves (I was one of the guinea >> > pigs). If I'm not mistaken, they bought a few replacement engines in >> > those days. >> > >> > People today have forgotten about that episode in its early marketing >> > days, but they had quite a public stigma to overcome for many years. >> > They seem to pretty well have recovered and built a good reputation. >> > >> > Bill Putney >> > (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my >> > address with "x") >> > >> > >> > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- >> > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >> > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- How can this be extrapolated to automotive engines? |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 16:44:05 -0600, TG wrote:
> Research the small aircraft groups or the FAA for Mobil 1 comments...you > will not like what you find. TG > > "John D." <jcdech@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:e821bab6.0307311648.6ba7ddc0@posting.google.c om... >> Bill, >> >> I know about that (now) but back then I should have at least >> researched the issue...I didn't know enough about synthetics then even >> to do that. As I said, however, Dino oil has served well, but I think >> the engine would be in better shape if I had changed over even 15 >> years ago if not in the 70s. >> >> NOW, the Internet (and UseNet of course) make it pretty easy to >> research something BEFORE buying it, if you don't have anyone >> knowledgable locally to ask. I didn't know ANYONE using Mobil 1 back >> then, hence it wasn't even an issue. >> >> John D. >> >> >> >> >> Bill Putney <peva@kinez.net> wrote in message > news:<3F2992B2.A3B234E8@kinez.net>... >> > "John D." wrote: >> > > ...If I had KNOWN way back then in 1973 that I was going >> > > to keep the car "indefinitely," I would have changed over to a >> > > synthetic motor oil! I just (1) didn't know I'd be keeping the car and >> > > (2) I really didn't know jack about synthetics...just plain ignorance. >> > >> > It's probably just as well that you didn't try Mobil 1 back in '73. In >> > their early years they had huge problems with getting the seal >> > swell/shrinkage part of the formulation right. People would switch over >> > to it and their engines would leak like sieves (I was one of the guinea >> > pigs). If I'm not mistaken, they bought a few replacement engines in >> > those days. >> > >> > People today have forgotten about that episode in its early marketing >> > days, but they had quite a public stigma to overcome for many years. >> > They seem to pretty well have recovered and built a good reputation. >> > >> > Bill Putney >> > (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my >> > address with "x") >> > >> > >> > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- >> > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >> > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- How can this be extrapolated to automotive engines? |
extrapolated?
OK, if we are going to start using big words I'm not gonna play. TG
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extrapolated?
OK, if we are going to start using big words I'm not gonna play. TG
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Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
Mobil 1 and aircraft engines really isn't news, but aircraft engines
are one thing, car engines are another. Apples and oranges. I not worried, but thanks anyway. BTW, be sure to let NASA and the military know, too. ;-) John D. "TG" <ab7rs@arrl.net> wrote in message news:<vilra4gdk1uv0a@corp.supernews.com>... > Research the small aircraft groups or the FAA for Mobil 1 comments...you > will not like what you find. TG > > "John D." <jcdech@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:e821bab6.0307311648.6ba7ddc0@posting.google.c om... > > Bill, > > > > I know about that (now) but back then I should have at least > > researched the issue...I didn't know enough about synthetics then even > > to do that. As I said, however, Dino oil has served well, but I think > > the engine would be in better shape if I had changed over even 15 > > years ago if not in the 70s. > > > > NOW, the Internet (and UseNet of course) make it pretty easy to > > research something BEFORE buying it, if you don't have anyone > > knowledgable locally to ask. I didn't know ANYONE using Mobil 1 back > > then, hence it wasn't even an issue. > > > > John D. > > > > > > > > > > Bill Putney <peva@kinez.net> wrote in message > news:<3F2992B2.A3B234E8@kinez.net>... > > > "John D." wrote: > > > > ...If I had KNOWN way back then in 1973 that I was going > > > > to keep the car "indefinitely," I would have changed over to a > > > > synthetic motor oil! I just (1) didn't know I'd be keeping the car and > > > > (2) I really didn't know jack about synthetics...just plain ignorance. > > > > > > It's probably just as well that you didn't try Mobil 1 back in '73. In > > > their early years they had huge problems with getting the seal > > > swell/shrinkage part of the formulation right. People would switch over > > > to it and their engines would leak like sieves (I was one of the guinea > > > pigs). If I'm not mistaken, they bought a few replacement engines in > > > those days. > > > > > > People today have forgotten about that episode in its early marketing > > > days, but they had quite a public stigma to overcome for many years. > > > They seem to pretty well have recovered and built a good reputation. > > > > > > Bill Putney > > > (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > > > address with "x") > > > > > > > > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- > > > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > > > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
Mobil 1 and aircraft engines really isn't news, but aircraft engines
are one thing, car engines are another. Apples and oranges. I not worried, but thanks anyway. BTW, be sure to let NASA and the military know, too. ;-) John D. "TG" <ab7rs@arrl.net> wrote in message news:<vilra4gdk1uv0a@corp.supernews.com>... > Research the small aircraft groups or the FAA for Mobil 1 comments...you > will not like what you find. TG > > "John D." <jcdech@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:e821bab6.0307311648.6ba7ddc0@posting.google.c om... > > Bill, > > > > I know about that (now) but back then I should have at least > > researched the issue...I didn't know enough about synthetics then even > > to do that. As I said, however, Dino oil has served well, but I think > > the engine would be in better shape if I had changed over even 15 > > years ago if not in the 70s. > > > > NOW, the Internet (and UseNet of course) make it pretty easy to > > research something BEFORE buying it, if you don't have anyone > > knowledgable locally to ask. I didn't know ANYONE using Mobil 1 back > > then, hence it wasn't even an issue. > > > > John D. > > > > > > > > > > Bill Putney <peva@kinez.net> wrote in message > news:<3F2992B2.A3B234E8@kinez.net>... > > > "John D." wrote: > > > > ...If I had KNOWN way back then in 1973 that I was going > > > > to keep the car "indefinitely," I would have changed over to a > > > > synthetic motor oil! I just (1) didn't know I'd be keeping the car and > > > > (2) I really didn't know jack about synthetics...just plain ignorance. > > > > > > It's probably just as well that you didn't try Mobil 1 back in '73. In > > > their early years they had huge problems with getting the seal > > > swell/shrinkage part of the formulation right. People would switch over > > > to it and their engines would leak like sieves (I was one of the guinea > > > pigs). If I'm not mistaken, they bought a few replacement engines in > > > those days. > > > > > > People today have forgotten about that episode in its early marketing > > > days, but they had quite a public stigma to overcome for many years. > > > They seem to pretty well have recovered and built a good reputation. > > > > > > Bill Putney > > > (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > > > address with "x") > > > > > > > > > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- > > > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! > > > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
> i use royal purple and still change every 5K miles (please no flames
because I don't do it every 3K miles ;-))) My 2003 Civic recommends 10,000 mile oil change intervals. I didn't want to do it with regular oil, so I'm going to do the 10,000 oil changes, but use Royal Purple and K&N filter. |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
> i use royal purple and still change every 5K miles (please no flames
because I don't do it every 3K miles ;-))) My 2003 Civic recommends 10,000 mile oil change intervals. I didn't want to do it with regular oil, so I'm going to do the 10,000 oil changes, but use Royal Purple and K&N filter. |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
In news:B8GWa.123550$R92.55720@news2.central.cox.net,
noway <nospam@nospam.com> jubilantly posted: >> i use royal purple and still change every 5K miles (please no >> flames > because I don't do it every 3K miles ;-))) > > My 2003 Civic recommends 10,000 mile oil change intervals. I > didn't want to do it with regular oil, so I'm going to do the > 10,000 oil changes, but use Royal Purple and K&N filter. Might you transcribe the Owner's Manual verbatim regarding 10k miler oil service intervals, please? What are the exceptions to that recommendation? -- ~~Philip cantankerous | kan-TANG-kruss | adjective: difficult or irritating to deal with. Example: Philip was always cantankerous in the morning, given to snapping and snarling until he'd had his first cup of coffee and a soothing hot shower. |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
In news:B8GWa.123550$R92.55720@news2.central.cox.net,
noway <nospam@nospam.com> jubilantly posted: >> i use royal purple and still change every 5K miles (please no >> flames > because I don't do it every 3K miles ;-))) > > My 2003 Civic recommends 10,000 mile oil change intervals. I > didn't want to do it with regular oil, so I'm going to do the > 10,000 oil changes, but use Royal Purple and K&N filter. Might you transcribe the Owner's Manual verbatim regarding 10k miler oil service intervals, please? What are the exceptions to that recommendation? -- ~~Philip cantankerous | kan-TANG-kruss | adjective: difficult or irritating to deal with. Example: Philip was always cantankerous in the morning, given to snapping and snarling until he'd had his first cup of coffee and a soothing hot shower. |
Re: extrapolated?
Well, big words save space because they take the place of lots of little words. ;-)
John D. "TG" <ab7rs@arrl.net> wrote in message news:<vim4ma4s953d7a@corp.supernews.com>... > OK, if we are going to start using big words I'm not gonna play. TG |
Re: extrapolated?
Well, big words save space because they take the place of lots of little words. ;-)
John D. "TG" <ab7rs@arrl.net> wrote in message news:<vim4ma4s953d7a@corp.supernews.com>... > OK, if we are going to start using big words I'm not gonna play. TG |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
On 8/2/2003 12:28 AM Philip® spake these words of knowledge:
> In news:B8GWa.123550$R92.55720@news2.central.cox.net, > noway <nospam@nospam.com> jubilantly posted: >>> i use royal purple and still change every 5K miles (please no >>> flames >> because I don't do it every 3K miles ;-))) >> >> My 2003 Civic recommends 10,000 mile oil change intervals. I >> didn't want to do it with regular oil, so I'm going to do the >> 10,000 oil changes, but use Royal Purple and K&N filter. > > Might you transcribe the Owner's Manual verbatim regarding 10k miler oil > service intervals, please? What are the exceptions to that > recommendation? Phil, my Accord manual says this: "*U.S. Owners* - Follow the Maintenance schedule for Severe Conditions if you drive your car MAINLY under one or more of the following conditions. Driving less than 5 miles (8 km) per trip or, in freezing temperatures, driving less than 10 miles (16 km) per trip. Driving in extremely hot [over 90 degrees Fahrenheit (32 degrees Celsius)] conditions. Extensive idling or long periods of stop-and-go driving, such as a taxi or a commercial delivery vehicle. Trailer-towing, driving with a roof rack, or driving in mountainous conditions. Driving on muddy, dusty, or deiced roads. NOTE: If you only OCCASIONALLY drive under a "severe" condition, you should follow the Normal Conditions Maintenance Schedule. *Canadian Owners* - Follow the Maintenance Schedule for Severe Conditions." Reading this last, I note that the manufacturer recommends that a fellow office worker, living here in Alabama, driving the same car under the same conditions, should use a different maintenance schedule than I because he's from Saskatchewan... The Normal Conditions Maintenance Schedule includes 10,000 mile oil change intervals; the Severe, 5,000 miles. RFT!!! Dave Kelsen -- A good friend will come bail you out of jail, but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn... we ed up!" |
Re: Royal Purple or Mobil1 Synthetic
On 8/2/2003 12:28 AM Philip® spake these words of knowledge:
> In news:B8GWa.123550$R92.55720@news2.central.cox.net, > noway <nospam@nospam.com> jubilantly posted: >>> i use royal purple and still change every 5K miles (please no >>> flames >> because I don't do it every 3K miles ;-))) >> >> My 2003 Civic recommends 10,000 mile oil change intervals. I >> didn't want to do it with regular oil, so I'm going to do the >> 10,000 oil changes, but use Royal Purple and K&N filter. > > Might you transcribe the Owner's Manual verbatim regarding 10k miler oil > service intervals, please? What are the exceptions to that > recommendation? Phil, my Accord manual says this: "*U.S. Owners* - Follow the Maintenance schedule for Severe Conditions if you drive your car MAINLY under one or more of the following conditions. Driving less than 5 miles (8 km) per trip or, in freezing temperatures, driving less than 10 miles (16 km) per trip. Driving in extremely hot [over 90 degrees Fahrenheit (32 degrees Celsius)] conditions. Extensive idling or long periods of stop-and-go driving, such as a taxi or a commercial delivery vehicle. Trailer-towing, driving with a roof rack, or driving in mountainous conditions. Driving on muddy, dusty, or deiced roads. NOTE: If you only OCCASIONALLY drive under a "severe" condition, you should follow the Normal Conditions Maintenance Schedule. *Canadian Owners* - Follow the Maintenance Schedule for Severe Conditions." Reading this last, I note that the manufacturer recommends that a fellow office worker, living here in Alabama, driving the same car under the same conditions, should use a different maintenance schedule than I because he's from Saskatchewan... The Normal Conditions Maintenance Schedule includes 10,000 mile oil change intervals; the Severe, 5,000 miles. RFT!!! Dave Kelsen -- A good friend will come bail you out of jail, but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn... we ed up!" |
Re: extrapolated?
On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 19:24:10 -0600, TG wrote:
> OK, if we are going to start using big words I'm not gonna play. TG extrapolate v 1: draw from specific cases for more general cases [syn: generalize, generalise, infer] |
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