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John Lutz 12-10-2003 12:35 PM

stalling at ignition
 
if the car (honda accord ex 1993) stalls at ignition or
turns forever, what can that be? I've tried looking at the main relay,
it seems ok. Hotter weather the car is worse off, especially
with humidity. If I throw it into neutral then back to
park I also have better 'luck'.

PS- thanks for the advice from last time. My new server
only allows two days then makes the messages 'illegal'.

Regards,
John


Bill B. Johnson 12-10-2003 06:25 PM

Re: stalling at ignition
 
In article <vPIBb.21314$655.2133471@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net >, John Lutz
<linuxbeatsmicrosoft@nyc.com> wrote:

> if the car (honda accord ex 1993) stalls at ignition or
> turns forever, what can that be? I've tried looking at the main relay,
> it seems ok. Hotter weather the car is worse off, especially
> with humidity. If I throw it into neutral then back to
> park I also have better 'luck'.
>
> PS- thanks for the advice from last time. My new server
> only allows two days then makes the messages 'illegal'.
>
> Regards,
> John


I advise you to do a complete tune-up. It could be something else. I don't
know what you mean when you said that you "tried looking at the main
relay--it seems ok." The only way to detemine if the main relay is working
is to test it with the proper equipment. If you don't have the proper
equipment or know how to test it--I advise you to take it to your favorite
mechanic and have them do it. If you want to do it yourself, you need to
get a manual such as one made by Haynes. Try calling Haynes at
1-805-498-6703. The one you need is 42012

Bill B. Johnson 12-10-2003 06:25 PM

Re: stalling at ignition
 
In article <vPIBb.21314$655.2133471@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net >, John Lutz
<linuxbeatsmicrosoft@nyc.com> wrote:

> if the car (honda accord ex 1993) stalls at ignition or
> turns forever, what can that be? I've tried looking at the main relay,
> it seems ok. Hotter weather the car is worse off, especially
> with humidity. If I throw it into neutral then back to
> park I also have better 'luck'.
>
> PS- thanks for the advice from last time. My new server
> only allows two days then makes the messages 'illegal'.
>
> Regards,
> John


I advise you to do a complete tune-up. It could be something else. I don't
know what you mean when you said that you "tried looking at the main
relay--it seems ok." The only way to detemine if the main relay is working
is to test it with the proper equipment. If you don't have the proper
equipment or know how to test it--I advise you to take it to your favorite
mechanic and have them do it. If you want to do it yourself, you need to
get a manual such as one made by Haynes. Try calling Haynes at
1-805-498-6703. The one you need is 42012

Bill B. Johnson 12-10-2003 06:25 PM

Re: stalling at ignition
 
In article <vPIBb.21314$655.2133471@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net >, John Lutz
<linuxbeatsmicrosoft@nyc.com> wrote:

> if the car (honda accord ex 1993) stalls at ignition or
> turns forever, what can that be? I've tried looking at the main relay,
> it seems ok. Hotter weather the car is worse off, especially
> with humidity. If I throw it into neutral then back to
> park I also have better 'luck'.
>
> PS- thanks for the advice from last time. My new server
> only allows two days then makes the messages 'illegal'.
>
> Regards,
> John


I advise you to do a complete tune-up. It could be something else. I don't
know what you mean when you said that you "tried looking at the main
relay--it seems ok." The only way to detemine if the main relay is working
is to test it with the proper equipment. If you don't have the proper
equipment or know how to test it--I advise you to take it to your favorite
mechanic and have them do it. If you want to do it yourself, you need to
get a manual such as one made by Haynes. Try calling Haynes at
1-805-498-6703. The one you need is 42012

Bill B. Johnson 12-10-2003 06:25 PM

Re: stalling at ignition
 
In article <vPIBb.21314$655.2133471@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net >, John Lutz
<linuxbeatsmicrosoft@nyc.com> wrote:

> if the car (honda accord ex 1993) stalls at ignition or
> turns forever, what can that be? I've tried looking at the main relay,
> it seems ok. Hotter weather the car is worse off, especially
> with humidity. If I throw it into neutral then back to
> park I also have better 'luck'.
>
> PS- thanks for the advice from last time. My new server
> only allows two days then makes the messages 'illegal'.
>
> Regards,
> John


I advise you to do a complete tune-up. It could be something else. I don't
know what you mean when you said that you "tried looking at the main
relay--it seems ok." The only way to detemine if the main relay is working
is to test it with the proper equipment. If you don't have the proper
equipment or know how to test it--I advise you to take it to your favorite
mechanic and have them do it. If you want to do it yourself, you need to
get a manual such as one made by Haynes. Try calling Haynes at
1-805-498-6703. The one you need is 42012

Eric 12-10-2003 07:48 PM

Re: stalling at ignition
 
"Bill B. Johnson" wrote:
>
> In article <vPIBb.21314$655.2133471@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net >, John Lutz
> <linuxbeatsmicrosoft@nyc.com> wrote:
>
> > if the car (honda accord ex 1993) stalls at ignition or
> > turns forever, what can that be? I've tried looking at the main relay,
> > it seems ok. Hotter weather the car is worse off, especially
> > with humidity. If I throw it into neutral then back to
> > park I also have better 'luck'.
> >
> > PS- thanks for the advice from last time. My new server
> > only allows two days then makes the messages 'illegal'.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John

>
> I advise you to do a complete tune-up. It could be something else. I don't
> know what you mean when you said that you "tried looking at the main
> relay--it seems ok." The only way to detemine if the main relay is working
> is to test it with the proper equipment. If you don't have the proper
> equipment or know how to test it--I advise you to take it to your favorite
> mechanic and have them do it. If you want to do it yourself, you need to
> get a manual such as one made by Haynes. Try calling Haynes at
> 1-805-498-6703. The one you need is 42012


The factory service manual can be obtained from http://www.helminc.com.
While it may be slightly more expensive than a Haynes manual, it will also
go into much greater depth.

Eric

Eric 12-10-2003 07:48 PM

Re: stalling at ignition
 
"Bill B. Johnson" wrote:
>
> In article <vPIBb.21314$655.2133471@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net >, John Lutz
> <linuxbeatsmicrosoft@nyc.com> wrote:
>
> > if the car (honda accord ex 1993) stalls at ignition or
> > turns forever, what can that be? I've tried looking at the main relay,
> > it seems ok. Hotter weather the car is worse off, especially
> > with humidity. If I throw it into neutral then back to
> > park I also have better 'luck'.
> >
> > PS- thanks for the advice from last time. My new server
> > only allows two days then makes the messages 'illegal'.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John

>
> I advise you to do a complete tune-up. It could be something else. I don't
> know what you mean when you said that you "tried looking at the main
> relay--it seems ok." The only way to detemine if the main relay is working
> is to test it with the proper equipment. If you don't have the proper
> equipment or know how to test it--I advise you to take it to your favorite
> mechanic and have them do it. If you want to do it yourself, you need to
> get a manual such as one made by Haynes. Try calling Haynes at
> 1-805-498-6703. The one you need is 42012


The factory service manual can be obtained from http://www.helminc.com.
While it may be slightly more expensive than a Haynes manual, it will also
go into much greater depth.

Eric

Eric 12-10-2003 07:48 PM

Re: stalling at ignition
 
"Bill B. Johnson" wrote:
>
> In article <vPIBb.21314$655.2133471@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net >, John Lutz
> <linuxbeatsmicrosoft@nyc.com> wrote:
>
> > if the car (honda accord ex 1993) stalls at ignition or
> > turns forever, what can that be? I've tried looking at the main relay,
> > it seems ok. Hotter weather the car is worse off, especially
> > with humidity. If I throw it into neutral then back to
> > park I also have better 'luck'.
> >
> > PS- thanks for the advice from last time. My new server
> > only allows two days then makes the messages 'illegal'.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John

>
> I advise you to do a complete tune-up. It could be something else. I don't
> know what you mean when you said that you "tried looking at the main
> relay--it seems ok." The only way to detemine if the main relay is working
> is to test it with the proper equipment. If you don't have the proper
> equipment or know how to test it--I advise you to take it to your favorite
> mechanic and have them do it. If you want to do it yourself, you need to
> get a manual such as one made by Haynes. Try calling Haynes at
> 1-805-498-6703. The one you need is 42012


The factory service manual can be obtained from http://www.helminc.com.
While it may be slightly more expensive than a Haynes manual, it will also
go into much greater depth.

Eric

Eric 12-10-2003 07:48 PM

Re: stalling at ignition
 
"Bill B. Johnson" wrote:
>
> In article <vPIBb.21314$655.2133471@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net >, John Lutz
> <linuxbeatsmicrosoft@nyc.com> wrote:
>
> > if the car (honda accord ex 1993) stalls at ignition or
> > turns forever, what can that be? I've tried looking at the main relay,
> > it seems ok. Hotter weather the car is worse off, especially
> > with humidity. If I throw it into neutral then back to
> > park I also have better 'luck'.
> >
> > PS- thanks for the advice from last time. My new server
> > only allows two days then makes the messages 'illegal'.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John

>
> I advise you to do a complete tune-up. It could be something else. I don't
> know what you mean when you said that you "tried looking at the main
> relay--it seems ok." The only way to detemine if the main relay is working
> is to test it with the proper equipment. If you don't have the proper
> equipment or know how to test it--I advise you to take it to your favorite
> mechanic and have them do it. If you want to do it yourself, you need to
> get a manual such as one made by Haynes. Try calling Haynes at
> 1-805-498-6703. The one you need is 42012


The factory service manual can be obtained from http://www.helminc.com.
While it may be slightly more expensive than a Haynes manual, it will also
go into much greater depth.

Eric

Jim Yanik 12-10-2003 08:46 PM

Re: stalling at ignition
 
John Lutz <linuxbeatsmicrosoft@nyc.com> wrote in
news:vPIBb.21314$655.2133471@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.n et:

> if the car (honda accord ex 1993) stalls at ignition or
> turns forever, what can that be? I've tried looking at the main relay,
> it seems ok. Hotter weather the car is worse off, especially
> with humidity. If I throw it into neutral then back to
> park I also have better 'luck'.
>
> PS- thanks for the advice from last time. My new server
> only allows two days then makes the messages 'illegal'.
>
> Regards,
> John
>


Well,the main relay activates the fuel pump(if the MR is working)."looking
at it,it seems OK" is not going to tell you if it -is- OK or not.

This tells you how to FIX the relay and eliminate it as a potential
problem.

http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm

Or you can spend $50 (or more) and replace it.

Then it could also be a worn ignition switch.

--
Jim Yanik,NRA member
jyanik-at-kua.net

Jim Yanik 12-10-2003 08:46 PM

Re: stalling at ignition
 
John Lutz <linuxbeatsmicrosoft@nyc.com> wrote in
news:vPIBb.21314$655.2133471@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.n et:

> if the car (honda accord ex 1993) stalls at ignition or
> turns forever, what can that be? I've tried looking at the main relay,
> it seems ok. Hotter weather the car is worse off, especially
> with humidity. If I throw it into neutral then back to
> park I also have better 'luck'.
>
> PS- thanks for the advice from last time. My new server
> only allows two days then makes the messages 'illegal'.
>
> Regards,
> John
>


Well,the main relay activates the fuel pump(if the MR is working)."looking
at it,it seems OK" is not going to tell you if it -is- OK or not.

This tells you how to FIX the relay and eliminate it as a potential
problem.

http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm

Or you can spend $50 (or more) and replace it.

Then it could also be a worn ignition switch.

--
Jim Yanik,NRA member
jyanik-at-kua.net

Jim Yanik 12-10-2003 08:46 PM

Re: stalling at ignition
 
John Lutz <linuxbeatsmicrosoft@nyc.com> wrote in
news:vPIBb.21314$655.2133471@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.n et:

> if the car (honda accord ex 1993) stalls at ignition or
> turns forever, what can that be? I've tried looking at the main relay,
> it seems ok. Hotter weather the car is worse off, especially
> with humidity. If I throw it into neutral then back to
> park I also have better 'luck'.
>
> PS- thanks for the advice from last time. My new server
> only allows two days then makes the messages 'illegal'.
>
> Regards,
> John
>


Well,the main relay activates the fuel pump(if the MR is working)."looking
at it,it seems OK" is not going to tell you if it -is- OK or not.

This tells you how to FIX the relay and eliminate it as a potential
problem.

http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm

Or you can spend $50 (or more) and replace it.

Then it could also be a worn ignition switch.

--
Jim Yanik,NRA member
jyanik-at-kua.net

Jim Yanik 12-10-2003 08:46 PM

Re: stalling at ignition
 
John Lutz <linuxbeatsmicrosoft@nyc.com> wrote in
news:vPIBb.21314$655.2133471@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.n et:

> if the car (honda accord ex 1993) stalls at ignition or
> turns forever, what can that be? I've tried looking at the main relay,
> it seems ok. Hotter weather the car is worse off, especially
> with humidity. If I throw it into neutral then back to
> park I also have better 'luck'.
>
> PS- thanks for the advice from last time. My new server
> only allows two days then makes the messages 'illegal'.
>
> Regards,
> John
>


Well,the main relay activates the fuel pump(if the MR is working)."looking
at it,it seems OK" is not going to tell you if it -is- OK or not.

This tells you how to FIX the relay and eliminate it as a potential
problem.

http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm

Or you can spend $50 (or more) and replace it.

Then it could also be a worn ignition switch.

--
Jim Yanik,NRA member
jyanik-at-kua.net

John Lutz 12-11-2003 04:06 PM

Re: stalling at ignition
 
Jim Yanik wrote:
> John Lutz <linuxbeatsmicrosoft@nyc.com> wrote in
> news:vPIBb.21314$655.2133471@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.n et:
>
>
>>if the car (honda accord ex 1993) stalls at ignition or
>>turns forever, what can that be? I've tried looking at the main relay,
>>it seems ok. Hotter weather the car is worse off, especially
>>with humidity. If I throw it into neutral then back to
>>park I also have better 'luck'.
>>
>>PS- thanks for the advice from last time. My new server
>>only allows two days then makes the messages 'illegal'.
>>
>>Regards,
>>John
>>

>
>
> Well,the main relay activates the fuel pump(if the MR is working)."looking
> at it,it seems OK" is not going to tell you if it -is- OK or not.
>
> This tells you how to FIX the relay and eliminate it as a potential
> problem.
>
> http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm
>
> Or you can spend $50 (or more) and replace it.
>
> Then it could also be a worn ignition switch.
>


Hello,

Ok thank guys. I'll probably just buy a new main relay.

Regards,
John


John Lutz 12-11-2003 04:06 PM

Re: stalling at ignition
 
Jim Yanik wrote:
> John Lutz <linuxbeatsmicrosoft@nyc.com> wrote in
> news:vPIBb.21314$655.2133471@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.n et:
>
>
>>if the car (honda accord ex 1993) stalls at ignition or
>>turns forever, what can that be? I've tried looking at the main relay,
>>it seems ok. Hotter weather the car is worse off, especially
>>with humidity. If I throw it into neutral then back to
>>park I also have better 'luck'.
>>
>>PS- thanks for the advice from last time. My new server
>>only allows two days then makes the messages 'illegal'.
>>
>>Regards,
>>John
>>

>
>
> Well,the main relay activates the fuel pump(if the MR is working)."looking
> at it,it seems OK" is not going to tell you if it -is- OK or not.
>
> This tells you how to FIX the relay and eliminate it as a potential
> problem.
>
> http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm
>
> Or you can spend $50 (or more) and replace it.
>
> Then it could also be a worn ignition switch.
>


Hello,

Ok thank guys. I'll probably just buy a new main relay.

Regards,
John



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