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Jim Yanik 12-12-2003 09:50 PM

Re: stalling at ignition
 
John Lutz <linuxbeatsmicrosoft@nyc.com> wrote in
news:PaqCb.91370$655.13558149@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv. net:



> Not exactly sure if it does that or not. I know that when I try
> to start it it will fire then die in the span or time while still
> turning the ignition.
> The question is, why does the fuel pump not engage (after it warms
> up) like it does in initial rounds of firing? Where can I get
> information on the fuel pump relay online.
> Searching stuff with google and altavista only brings up add
> web sites. Searching for information on automobile repairs
> is terrible on the web!
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
>


The fuel system holds enough pressure for the car to briefly start,but not
enough to maintain running unless the fuel pump keeps the pressure up.
The solder problem on the relay PCB makes it -intermittent-,which is why it
works sometimes,but especially not when its hot out.

In all the time you've spent on these posts,you could have resoldered the
relay and discovered if it was the problem or not.

--
Jim Yanik,NRA member
jyanik-at-kua.net

Jim Yanik 12-12-2003 09:50 PM

Re: stalling at ignition
 
John Lutz <linuxbeatsmicrosoft@nyc.com> wrote in
news:PaqCb.91370$655.13558149@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv. net:



> Not exactly sure if it does that or not. I know that when I try
> to start it it will fire then die in the span or time while still
> turning the ignition.
> The question is, why does the fuel pump not engage (after it warms
> up) like it does in initial rounds of firing? Where can I get
> information on the fuel pump relay online.
> Searching stuff with google and altavista only brings up add
> web sites. Searching for information on automobile repairs
> is terrible on the web!
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
>


The fuel system holds enough pressure for the car to briefly start,but not
enough to maintain running unless the fuel pump keeps the pressure up.
The solder problem on the relay PCB makes it -intermittent-,which is why it
works sometimes,but especially not when its hot out.

In all the time you've spent on these posts,you could have resoldered the
relay and discovered if it was the problem or not.

--
Jim Yanik,NRA member
jyanik-at-kua.net

Jim Yanik 12-12-2003 09:50 PM

Re: stalling at ignition
 
John Lutz <linuxbeatsmicrosoft@nyc.com> wrote in
news:PaqCb.91370$655.13558149@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv. net:



> Not exactly sure if it does that or not. I know that when I try
> to start it it will fire then die in the span or time while still
> turning the ignition.
> The question is, why does the fuel pump not engage (after it warms
> up) like it does in initial rounds of firing? Where can I get
> information on the fuel pump relay online.
> Searching stuff with google and altavista only brings up add
> web sites. Searching for information on automobile repairs
> is terrible on the web!
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
>


The fuel system holds enough pressure for the car to briefly start,but not
enough to maintain running unless the fuel pump keeps the pressure up.
The solder problem on the relay PCB makes it -intermittent-,which is why it
works sometimes,but especially not when its hot out.

In all the time you've spent on these posts,you could have resoldered the
relay and discovered if it was the problem or not.

--
Jim Yanik,NRA member
jyanik-at-kua.net

NightWolf 01-04-2004 05:22 PM

Re: stalling at ignition
 
It could very well be the engine's ECU

Humidity effecting the resonse of electric signals is common problem
in a computer
Especially one that was sealed in a box, and over time the seals
are starting to deteriorate

Best of Luck

Phill



On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:35:23 GMT, John Lutz
<linuxbeatsmicrosoft@nyc.com> wrote:

>if the car (honda accord ex 1993) stalls at ignition or
>turns forever, what can that be? I've tried looking at the main relay,
>it seems ok. Hotter weather the car is worse off, especially
>with humidity. If I throw it into neutral then back to
>park I also have better 'luck'.
>
>PS- thanks for the advice from last time. My new server
>only allows two days then makes the messages 'illegal'.
>
>Regards,
>John



NightWolf 01-04-2004 05:22 PM

Re: stalling at ignition
 
It could very well be the engine's ECU

Humidity effecting the resonse of electric signals is common problem
in a computer
Especially one that was sealed in a box, and over time the seals
are starting to deteriorate

Best of Luck

Phill



On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:35:23 GMT, John Lutz
<linuxbeatsmicrosoft@nyc.com> wrote:

>if the car (honda accord ex 1993) stalls at ignition or
>turns forever, what can that be? I've tried looking at the main relay,
>it seems ok. Hotter weather the car is worse off, especially
>with humidity. If I throw it into neutral then back to
>park I also have better 'luck'.
>
>PS- thanks for the advice from last time. My new server
>only allows two days then makes the messages 'illegal'.
>
>Regards,
>John



NightWolf 01-04-2004 05:22 PM

Re: stalling at ignition
 
It could very well be the engine's ECU

Humidity effecting the resonse of electric signals is common problem
in a computer
Especially one that was sealed in a box, and over time the seals
are starting to deteriorate

Best of Luck

Phill



On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:35:23 GMT, John Lutz
<linuxbeatsmicrosoft@nyc.com> wrote:

>if the car (honda accord ex 1993) stalls at ignition or
>turns forever, what can that be? I've tried looking at the main relay,
>it seems ok. Hotter weather the car is worse off, especially
>with humidity. If I throw it into neutral then back to
>park I also have better 'luck'.
>
>PS- thanks for the advice from last time. My new server
>only allows two days then makes the messages 'illegal'.
>
>Regards,
>John



'Curly Q. Links' 01-04-2004 08:38 PM

Re: stalling at ignition
 
John Lutz wrote:
>
> Jim Yanik wrote:
> > John Lutz <linuxbeatsmicrosoft@nyc.com> wrote in
> > news:vPIBb.21314$655.2133471@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.n et:
> >
> >
> >>if the car (honda accord ex 1993) stalls at ignition or
> >>turns forever, what can that be? I've tried looking at the main relay,
> >>it seems ok. Hotter weather the car is worse off, especially
> >>with humidity. If I throw it into neutral then back to
> >>park I also have better 'luck'.
> >>
> >>PS- thanks for the advice from last time. My new server
> >>only allows two days then makes the messages 'illegal'.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>John


======================

John,

Read this site carefully. It seems to be your problem.

http://members.rogers.com/john-ings/MainRelay.HTM

'Curly'

==============

'Curly Q. Links' 01-04-2004 08:38 PM

Re: stalling at ignition
 
John Lutz wrote:
>
> Jim Yanik wrote:
> > John Lutz <linuxbeatsmicrosoft@nyc.com> wrote in
> > news:vPIBb.21314$655.2133471@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.n et:
> >
> >
> >>if the car (honda accord ex 1993) stalls at ignition or
> >>turns forever, what can that be? I've tried looking at the main relay,
> >>it seems ok. Hotter weather the car is worse off, especially
> >>with humidity. If I throw it into neutral then back to
> >>park I also have better 'luck'.
> >>
> >>PS- thanks for the advice from last time. My new server
> >>only allows two days then makes the messages 'illegal'.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>John


======================

John,

Read this site carefully. It seems to be your problem.

http://members.rogers.com/john-ings/MainRelay.HTM

'Curly'

==============

'Curly Q. Links' 01-04-2004 08:38 PM

Re: stalling at ignition
 
John Lutz wrote:
>
> Jim Yanik wrote:
> > John Lutz <linuxbeatsmicrosoft@nyc.com> wrote in
> > news:vPIBb.21314$655.2133471@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.n et:
> >
> >
> >>if the car (honda accord ex 1993) stalls at ignition or
> >>turns forever, what can that be? I've tried looking at the main relay,
> >>it seems ok. Hotter weather the car is worse off, especially
> >>with humidity. If I throw it into neutral then back to
> >>park I also have better 'luck'.
> >>
> >>PS- thanks for the advice from last time. My new server
> >>only allows two days then makes the messages 'illegal'.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>John


======================

John,

Read this site carefully. It seems to be your problem.

http://members.rogers.com/john-ings/MainRelay.HTM

'Curly'

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