Re: Starting in winter
 

Started my Honda other day...wind chill factored in at -37C...
SouthWest Quebec....Honda belts sqeaked and moaned...but the sweet
baby started...

R





On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 23:37:04 GMT, "Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca>
wrote:

>That's perfectly normal when it gets really cold. I live in Nova Scotia and
>this morning it was
>-22 C (-7 F) and my 2003 Accord cranked fairly slow and took about 3-4
>seconds to start. As long as it starts, you're laughing. When it's cold
>the oil gets thick and it's harder for the starter to turn the engine. A
>cold battery doesn't help either. Like I said, as long as it starts, don't
>worry about it. Besides, what do you care about 1-2 seconds? The thing
>won't fire up the instant you turn the key. Most cars take 1-2 seconds to
>start in the middle of summer. If your car started in 1-2 seconds in the
>temperatures you mentioned, that's damn good.
>
>"Bryan Canter" <bcnewsgroups@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:614be1fb.0401081030.4ded7e11@posting.google. com...
>> Last few days (as the temps here in Boston have dropped to single
>> digits) my Accord 2000 has been taking a good 1-2 seconds to start.
>> Fuel tank has been near full all three days and last evening it was
>> well topped off. But it took its own sweet time starting this
>> morning. Not a problem right now, but it has me worried. All the more
>> because, it is parked in a covered parking lot overnight. Last winter
>> it never displayed any signs like these.
>>
>> Any pointers will be appreciated.
>

Re: Starting in winter
 

Started my Honda other day...wind chill factored in at -37C...
SouthWest Quebec....Honda belts sqeaked and moaned...but the sweet
baby started...

R





On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 23:37:04 GMT, "Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca>
wrote:

>That's perfectly normal when it gets really cold. I live in Nova Scotia and
>this morning it was
>-22 C (-7 F) and my 2003 Accord cranked fairly slow and took about 3-4
>seconds to start. As long as it starts, you're laughing. When it's cold
>the oil gets thick and it's harder for the starter to turn the engine. A
>cold battery doesn't help either. Like I said, as long as it starts, don't
>worry about it. Besides, what do you care about 1-2 seconds? The thing
>won't fire up the instant you turn the key. Most cars take 1-2 seconds to
>start in the middle of summer. If your car started in 1-2 seconds in the
>temperatures you mentioned, that's damn good.
>
>"Bryan Canter" <bcnewsgroups@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:614be1fb.0401081030.4ded7e11@posting.google. com...
>> Last few days (as the temps here in Boston have dropped to single
>> digits) my Accord 2000 has been taking a good 1-2 seconds to start.
>> Fuel tank has been near full all three days and last evening it was
>> well topped off. But it took its own sweet time starting this
>> morning. Not a problem right now, but it has me worried. All the more
>> because, it is parked in a covered parking lot overnight. Last winter
>> it never displayed any signs like these.
>>
>> Any pointers will be appreciated.
>

Re: Starting in winter
 

Started my Honda other day...wind chill factored in at -37C...
SouthWest Quebec....Honda belts sqeaked and moaned...but the sweet
baby started...

R





On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 23:37:04 GMT, "Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca>
wrote:

>That's perfectly normal when it gets really cold. I live in Nova Scotia and
>this morning it was
>-22 C (-7 F) and my 2003 Accord cranked fairly slow and took about 3-4
>seconds to start. As long as it starts, you're laughing. When it's cold
>the oil gets thick and it's harder for the starter to turn the engine. A
>cold battery doesn't help either. Like I said, as long as it starts, don't
>worry about it. Besides, what do you care about 1-2 seconds? The thing
>won't fire up the instant you turn the key. Most cars take 1-2 seconds to
>start in the middle of summer. If your car started in 1-2 seconds in the
>temperatures you mentioned, that's damn good.
>
>"Bryan Canter" <bcnewsgroups@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:614be1fb.0401081030.4ded7e11@posting.google. com...
>> Last few days (as the temps here in Boston have dropped to single
>> digits) my Accord 2000 has been taking a good 1-2 seconds to start.
>> Fuel tank has been near full all three days and last evening it was
>> well topped off. But it took its own sweet time starting this
>> morning. Not a problem right now, but it has me worried. All the more
>> because, it is parked in a covered parking lot overnight. Last winter
>> it never displayed any signs like these.
>>
>> Any pointers will be appreciated.
>

Re: Starting in winter
 

Started my Honda other day...wind chill factored in at -37C...
SouthWest Quebec....Honda belts sqeaked and moaned...but the sweet
baby started...

R





On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 23:37:04 GMT, "Sean Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca>
wrote:

>That's perfectly normal when it gets really cold. I live in Nova Scotia and
>this morning it was
>-22 C (-7 F) and my 2003 Accord cranked fairly slow and took about 3-4
>seconds to start. As long as it starts, you're laughing. When it's cold
>the oil gets thick and it's harder for the starter to turn the engine. A
>cold battery doesn't help either. Like I said, as long as it starts, don't
>worry about it. Besides, what do you care about 1-2 seconds? The thing
>won't fire up the instant you turn the key. Most cars take 1-2 seconds to
>start in the middle of summer. If your car started in 1-2 seconds in the
>temperatures you mentioned, that's damn good.
>
>"Bryan Canter" <bcnewsgroups@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:614be1fb.0401081030.4ded7e11@posting.google. com...
>> Last few days (as the temps here in Boston have dropped to single
>> digits) my Accord 2000 has been taking a good 1-2 seconds to start.
>> Fuel tank has been near full all three days and last evening it was
>> well topped off. But it took its own sweet time starting this
>> morning. Not a problem right now, but it has me worried. All the more
>> because, it is parked in a covered parking lot overnight. Last winter
>> it never displayed any signs like these.
>>
>> Any pointers will be appreciated.
>

Re: Starting in winter
 

"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:<4002D8C0.F36B59@interbaun.com>...
> Bryan,
>
> I'll clarify a couple of things you said, since this is a very timely

<snip>

> About the key: The manual also states that you should check your 'idiot
> lights' once in a while, and it gives the added bonus of waiting an
> extra two seconds for the fuel pump to 'charge' the injection system
> BEFORE you start cranking the engine. For the owners of the Hondas that
> have MAIN RELAY PROBLEMS, it gives them the opportunity to listen to the
> fuel pump run (or not run), before trying to start.

Hate to sound so dumb but what are 'idiot lights?' Sounds like you
mean all the lights in the dash. But why do they call them so?

bc

Re: Starting in winter
 

"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:<4002D8C0.F36B59@interbaun.com>...
> Bryan,
>
> I'll clarify a couple of things you said, since this is a very timely

<snip>

> About the key: The manual also states that you should check your 'idiot
> lights' once in a while, and it gives the added bonus of waiting an
> extra two seconds for the fuel pump to 'charge' the injection system
> BEFORE you start cranking the engine. For the owners of the Hondas that
> have MAIN RELAY PROBLEMS, it gives them the opportunity to listen to the
> fuel pump run (or not run), before trying to start.

Hate to sound so dumb but what are 'idiot lights?' Sounds like you
mean all the lights in the dash. But why do they call them so?

bc

Re: Starting in winter
 

"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:<4002D8C0.F36B59@interbaun.com>...
> Bryan,
>
> I'll clarify a couple of things you said, since this is a very timely

<snip>

> About the key: The manual also states that you should check your 'idiot
> lights' once in a while, and it gives the added bonus of waiting an
> extra two seconds for the fuel pump to 'charge' the injection system
> BEFORE you start cranking the engine. For the owners of the Hondas that
> have MAIN RELAY PROBLEMS, it gives them the opportunity to listen to the
> fuel pump run (or not run), before trying to start.

Hate to sound so dumb but what are 'idiot lights?' Sounds like you
mean all the lights in the dash. But why do they call them so?

bc

Re: Starting in winter
 

"'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:<4002D8C0.F36B59@interbaun.com>...
> Bryan,
>
> I'll clarify a couple of things you said, since this is a very timely

<snip>

> About the key: The manual also states that you should check your 'idiot
> lights' once in a while, and it gives the added bonus of waiting an
> extra two seconds for the fuel pump to 'charge' the injection system
> BEFORE you start cranking the engine. For the owners of the Hondas that
> have MAIN RELAY PROBLEMS, it gives them the opportunity to listen to the
> fuel pump run (or not run), before trying to start.

Hate to sound so dumb but what are 'idiot lights?' Sounds like you
mean all the lights in the dash. But why do they call them so?

bc

Re: Starting in winter
 

Bryan Canter wrote:
>
> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:<4002D8C0.F36B59@interbaun.com>...
> > Bryan,
> >
> > I'll clarify a couple of things you said, since this is a very timely
>
> <snip>
>
> > About the key: The manual also states that you should check your 'idiot
> > lights' once in a while, and it gives the added bonus of waiting an
> > extra two seconds for the fuel pump to 'charge' the injection system
> > BEFORE you start cranking the engine. For the owners of the Hondas that
> > have MAIN RELAY PROBLEMS, it gives them the opportunity to listen to the
> > fuel pump run (or not run), before trying to start.
>
> Hate to sound so dumb but what are 'idiot lights?' Sounds like you
> mean all the lights in the dash. But why do they call them so?
>
> bc
===============

bc,

They're called 'idiot lights' because they are used in the place of
guages, which gave much more information, but an IDIOT couldn't be
trusted to interpret the display. So we have idiot lights, but the
problem with them: A true idiot won't know that the lights have to be
checked from time to time (per the fine manual)

P.S. Don't you love it when you drive by another car and there's a light
(or two) glowing red, blue, or maybe amber on the dash? Makes me wonder
if there's a loose wire, possibly between the ears :-)

'Curly'

=============
--

Re: Starting in winter
 

Bryan Canter wrote:
>
> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:<4002D8C0.F36B59@interbaun.com>...
> > Bryan,
> >
> > I'll clarify a couple of things you said, since this is a very timely
>
> <snip>
>
> > About the key: The manual also states that you should check your 'idiot
> > lights' once in a while, and it gives the added bonus of waiting an
> > extra two seconds for the fuel pump to 'charge' the injection system
> > BEFORE you start cranking the engine. For the owners of the Hondas that
> > have MAIN RELAY PROBLEMS, it gives them the opportunity to listen to the
> > fuel pump run (or not run), before trying to start.
>
> Hate to sound so dumb but what are 'idiot lights?' Sounds like you
> mean all the lights in the dash. But why do they call them so?
>
> bc
===============

bc,

They're called 'idiot lights' because they are used in the place of
guages, which gave much more information, but an IDIOT couldn't be
trusted to interpret the display. So we have idiot lights, but the
problem with them: A true idiot won't know that the lights have to be
checked from time to time (per the fine manual)

P.S. Don't you love it when you drive by another car and there's a light
(or two) glowing red, blue, or maybe amber on the dash? Makes me wonder
if there's a loose wire, possibly between the ears :-)

'Curly'

=============
--

Re: Starting in winter
 

Bryan Canter wrote:
>
> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:<4002D8C0.F36B59@interbaun.com>...
> > Bryan,
> >
> > I'll clarify a couple of things you said, since this is a very timely
>
> <snip>
>
> > About the key: The manual also states that you should check your 'idiot
> > lights' once in a while, and it gives the added bonus of waiting an
> > extra two seconds for the fuel pump to 'charge' the injection system
> > BEFORE you start cranking the engine. For the owners of the Hondas that
> > have MAIN RELAY PROBLEMS, it gives them the opportunity to listen to the
> > fuel pump run (or not run), before trying to start.
>
> Hate to sound so dumb but what are 'idiot lights?' Sounds like you
> mean all the lights in the dash. But why do they call them so?
>
> bc
===============

bc,

They're called 'idiot lights' because they are used in the place of
guages, which gave much more information, but an IDIOT couldn't be
trusted to interpret the display. So we have idiot lights, but the
problem with them: A true idiot won't know that the lights have to be
checked from time to time (per the fine manual)

P.S. Don't you love it when you drive by another car and there's a light
(or two) glowing red, blue, or maybe amber on the dash? Makes me wonder
if there's a loose wire, possibly between the ears :-)

'Curly'

=============
--

Re: Starting in winter
 

Bryan Canter wrote:
>
> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:<4002D8C0.F36B59@interbaun.com>...
> > Bryan,
> >
> > I'll clarify a couple of things you said, since this is a very timely
>
> <snip>
>
> > About the key: The manual also states that you should check your 'idiot
> > lights' once in a while, and it gives the added bonus of waiting an
> > extra two seconds for the fuel pump to 'charge' the injection system
> > BEFORE you start cranking the engine. For the owners of the Hondas that
> > have MAIN RELAY PROBLEMS, it gives them the opportunity to listen to the
> > fuel pump run (or not run), before trying to start.
>
> Hate to sound so dumb but what are 'idiot lights?' Sounds like you
> mean all the lights in the dash. But why do they call them so?
>
> bc
===============

bc,

They're called 'idiot lights' because they are used in the place of
guages, which gave much more information, but an IDIOT couldn't be
trusted to interpret the display. So we have idiot lights, but the
problem with them: A true idiot won't know that the lights have to be
checked from time to time (per the fine manual)

P.S. Don't you love it when you drive by another car and there's a light
(or two) glowing red, blue, or maybe amber on the dash? Makes me wonder
if there's a loose wire, possibly between the ears :-)

'Curly'

=============
--

Re: Starting in winter
 

Glad to hear it. What was the actual temperature? Wind chill doesn't
affect starting, only the rate at which the car cools down to the
actual temperature.

Coldest so far in Saint Paul (Minnesota) was about -5F. The car
cranked a little slowly, but started right up.

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:21:21 -0500, Bob <bluesmack@videotron.ca>
wrote:

>Started my Honda other day...wind chill factored in at -37C...
>SouthWest Quebec....Honda belts sqeaked and moaned...but the sweet
>baby started...
>
>R
>

Re: Starting in winter
 

Glad to hear it. What was the actual temperature? Wind chill doesn't
affect starting, only the rate at which the car cools down to the
actual temperature.

Coldest so far in Saint Paul (Minnesota) was about -5F. The car
cranked a little slowly, but started right up.

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:21:21 -0500, Bob <bluesmack@videotron.ca>
wrote:

>Started my Honda other day...wind chill factored in at -37C...
>SouthWest Quebec....Honda belts sqeaked and moaned...but the sweet
>baby started...
>
>R
>

Re: Starting in winter
 

Glad to hear it. What was the actual temperature? Wind chill doesn't
affect starting, only the rate at which the car cools down to the
actual temperature.

Coldest so far in Saint Paul (Minnesota) was about -5F. The car
cranked a little slowly, but started right up.

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:21:21 -0500, Bob <bluesmack@videotron.ca>
wrote:

>Started my Honda other day...wind chill factored in at -37C...
>SouthWest Quebec....Honda belts sqeaked and moaned...but the sweet
>baby started...
>
>R
>