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Re: Starting in winter
Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in news:0I%Mb.84167$ts4.51362@pd7tw3no:
> Hi, > Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter > when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual. > Tony > > Bob wrote: >> That morning my outdoor thermotor was at -27C, about -18F...tonight... >> they're forecasting -28C...or -20F...it's presently (18:09 EST -18C) >> Honda in garage...Left the 2004 Matrix AWD with fresh Synthetic >> outside. >> >> I should tape the sounds that baby will make tomorrow AM! >> >> BTW that Matrix AWD is real good in the snow >> Don't you guys have a block heater? :-) ... try to stay warm! |
Re: Starting in winter
Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in news:0I%Mb.84167$ts4.51362@pd7tw3no:
> Hi, > Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter > when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual. > Tony > > Bob wrote: >> That morning my outdoor thermotor was at -27C, about -18F...tonight... >> they're forecasting -28C...or -20F...it's presently (18:09 EST -18C) >> Honda in garage...Left the 2004 Matrix AWD with fresh Synthetic >> outside. >> >> I should tape the sounds that baby will make tomorrow AM! >> >> BTW that Matrix AWD is real good in the snow >> Don't you guys have a block heater? :-) ... try to stay warm! |
Re: Starting in winter
Ed <do.not@spam.me> wrote in
news:Xns946FC7D97A776MyMessagesRock@151.164.30.48: > Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in > news:0I%Mb.84167$ts4.51362@pd7tw3no: > >> Hi, >> Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter >> when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual. >> Tony >> old school -> new school -> old school?? My first SEVERAL cars were carburated, and of course you pump that baby, and hold it down a tad for real cold starts, but of course on carbureted cars, it varied a bit depending on the car. I had one that worked great 3 pumps, and turn the key and it always fired. the first few fuel injected cars I had said not to touch the pedal at all, now were back to pedal pushing??? Also with the popularity of remote car starts, this doesnt happen when remote started. So if its really cold, I should run out and manualy start? WIerd.. Looking for my manual... |
Re: Starting in winter
Ed <do.not@spam.me> wrote in
news:Xns946FC7D97A776MyMessagesRock@151.164.30.48: > Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in > news:0I%Mb.84167$ts4.51362@pd7tw3no: > >> Hi, >> Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter >> when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual. >> Tony >> old school -> new school -> old school?? My first SEVERAL cars were carburated, and of course you pump that baby, and hold it down a tad for real cold starts, but of course on carbureted cars, it varied a bit depending on the car. I had one that worked great 3 pumps, and turn the key and it always fired. the first few fuel injected cars I had said not to touch the pedal at all, now were back to pedal pushing??? Also with the popularity of remote car starts, this doesnt happen when remote started. So if its really cold, I should run out and manualy start? WIerd.. Looking for my manual... |
Re: Starting in winter
Ed <do.not@spam.me> wrote in
news:Xns946FC7D97A776MyMessagesRock@151.164.30.48: > Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in > news:0I%Mb.84167$ts4.51362@pd7tw3no: > >> Hi, >> Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter >> when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual. >> Tony >> old school -> new school -> old school?? My first SEVERAL cars were carburated, and of course you pump that baby, and hold it down a tad for real cold starts, but of course on carbureted cars, it varied a bit depending on the car. I had one that worked great 3 pumps, and turn the key and it always fired. the first few fuel injected cars I had said not to touch the pedal at all, now were back to pedal pushing??? Also with the popularity of remote car starts, this doesnt happen when remote started. So if its really cold, I should run out and manualy start? WIerd.. Looking for my manual... |
Re: Starting in winter
Ed <do.not@spam.me> wrote in
news:Xns946FC7D97A776MyMessagesRock@151.164.30.48: > Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in > news:0I%Mb.84167$ts4.51362@pd7tw3no: > >> Hi, >> Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter >> when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual. >> Tony >> old school -> new school -> old school?? My first SEVERAL cars were carburated, and of course you pump that baby, and hold it down a tad for real cold starts, but of course on carbureted cars, it varied a bit depending on the car. I had one that worked great 3 pumps, and turn the key and it always fired. the first few fuel injected cars I had said not to touch the pedal at all, now were back to pedal pushing??? Also with the popularity of remote car starts, this doesnt happen when remote started. So if its really cold, I should run out and manualy start? WIerd.. Looking for my manual... |
Re: Starting in winter
Ript wrote: > Ed <do.not@spam.me> wrote in > news:Xns946FC7D97A776MyMessagesRock@151.164.30.48: > > >>Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in >>news:0I%Mb.84167$ts4.51362@pd7tw3no: >> >> >>>Hi, >>>Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter >>>when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual. >>>Tony >>> > > > old school -> new school -> old school?? > > My first SEVERAL cars were carburated, and of course you pump that baby, > and hold it down a tad for real cold starts, but of course on carbureted > cars, it varied a bit depending on the car. I had one that worked great 3 > pumps, and turn the key and it always fired. the first few fuel injected > cars I had said not to touch the pedal at all, now were back to pedal > pushing??? Also with the popularity of remote car starts, this doesnt > happen when remote started. So if its really cold, I should run out and > manualy start? WIerd.. Looking for my manual... Hi, Yup, when it is really cold. I just had to start in -35C weather after parking the car 2 days outside. Tried remote start not wanting to go out in the cold. Barely cranking but no go. Tried once more, almost battery is gone. Went out, pumped pedal, BARELY managed to crank, fired up right away. I was out at my cabin over the new year's day week end. Manual mentions it as well. Tony |
Re: Starting in winter
Ript wrote: > Ed <do.not@spam.me> wrote in > news:Xns946FC7D97A776MyMessagesRock@151.164.30.48: > > >>Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in >>news:0I%Mb.84167$ts4.51362@pd7tw3no: >> >> >>>Hi, >>>Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter >>>when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual. >>>Tony >>> > > > old school -> new school -> old school?? > > My first SEVERAL cars were carburated, and of course you pump that baby, > and hold it down a tad for real cold starts, but of course on carbureted > cars, it varied a bit depending on the car. I had one that worked great 3 > pumps, and turn the key and it always fired. the first few fuel injected > cars I had said not to touch the pedal at all, now were back to pedal > pushing??? Also with the popularity of remote car starts, this doesnt > happen when remote started. So if its really cold, I should run out and > manualy start? WIerd.. Looking for my manual... Hi, Yup, when it is really cold. I just had to start in -35C weather after parking the car 2 days outside. Tried remote start not wanting to go out in the cold. Barely cranking but no go. Tried once more, almost battery is gone. Went out, pumped pedal, BARELY managed to crank, fired up right away. I was out at my cabin over the new year's day week end. Manual mentions it as well. Tony |
Re: Starting in winter
Ript wrote: > Ed <do.not@spam.me> wrote in > news:Xns946FC7D97A776MyMessagesRock@151.164.30.48: > > >>Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in >>news:0I%Mb.84167$ts4.51362@pd7tw3no: >> >> >>>Hi, >>>Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter >>>when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual. >>>Tony >>> > > > old school -> new school -> old school?? > > My first SEVERAL cars were carburated, and of course you pump that baby, > and hold it down a tad for real cold starts, but of course on carbureted > cars, it varied a bit depending on the car. I had one that worked great 3 > pumps, and turn the key and it always fired. the first few fuel injected > cars I had said not to touch the pedal at all, now were back to pedal > pushing??? Also with the popularity of remote car starts, this doesnt > happen when remote started. So if its really cold, I should run out and > manualy start? WIerd.. Looking for my manual... Hi, Yup, when it is really cold. I just had to start in -35C weather after parking the car 2 days outside. Tried remote start not wanting to go out in the cold. Barely cranking but no go. Tried once more, almost battery is gone. Went out, pumped pedal, BARELY managed to crank, fired up right away. I was out at my cabin over the new year's day week end. Manual mentions it as well. Tony |
Re: Starting in winter
Ript wrote: > Ed <do.not@spam.me> wrote in > news:Xns946FC7D97A776MyMessagesRock@151.164.30.48: > > >>Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in >>news:0I%Mb.84167$ts4.51362@pd7tw3no: >> >> >>>Hi, >>>Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter >>>when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual. >>>Tony >>> > > > old school -> new school -> old school?? > > My first SEVERAL cars were carburated, and of course you pump that baby, > and hold it down a tad for real cold starts, but of course on carbureted > cars, it varied a bit depending on the car. I had one that worked great 3 > pumps, and turn the key and it always fired. the first few fuel injected > cars I had said not to touch the pedal at all, now were back to pedal > pushing??? Also with the popularity of remote car starts, this doesnt > happen when remote started. So if its really cold, I should run out and > manualy start? WIerd.. Looking for my manual... Hi, Yup, when it is really cold. I just had to start in -35C weather after parking the car 2 days outside. Tried remote start not wanting to go out in the cold. Barely cranking but no go. Tried once more, almost battery is gone. Went out, pumped pedal, BARELY managed to crank, fired up right away. I was out at my cabin over the new year's day week end. Manual mentions it as well. Tony |
Re: Starting in winter MISINFORMATION ABOUNDS
Tony Hwang wrote:
> > Hi, > Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter > when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual. > Tony > ================ Tony, As a fellow Canadian, and fellow CRV owner, please don't take this wrong, but your manual doesn't say to PUMP the pedal, but to HOLD the pedal half way to the floor, while turning the key to the START position. Injected engines don't have an 'accelerator pump' (to squirt raw gas into the intake), nor do they have a choke assembly (that has to be 'loaded') by pushing the pedal to the floor. So pumping the gas (air) pedal on a fuel injected Honda does nothing. It's just an air valve attached to a 'Throttle Position Sensor', with a return spring for resistance. However: When it's very cold, as per the fine Owner's Manual, you're supposed to hold the pedal half way to the floor. This gives the engine _AIR_, and also sets the computer to the optium settings of fuel mixture and spark advance (probably none). As mentioned before on this group, it's also wise to WAIT several seconds for the fuel pump to charge up the pressure before stying to start in cold weather. Good time to do the 'Lamp Check', also recommended in the manual. On MARKETPLACE (CBC TV comsumer show) tonight, the GM dealer that was being interviewed mentioned that they sell Owner's Manuals for $30,000, and each one comes with a free car. I like that. :-) 'Curly' ================== |
Re: Starting in winter MISINFORMATION ABOUNDS
Tony Hwang wrote:
> > Hi, > Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter > when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual. > Tony > ================ Tony, As a fellow Canadian, and fellow CRV owner, please don't take this wrong, but your manual doesn't say to PUMP the pedal, but to HOLD the pedal half way to the floor, while turning the key to the START position. Injected engines don't have an 'accelerator pump' (to squirt raw gas into the intake), nor do they have a choke assembly (that has to be 'loaded') by pushing the pedal to the floor. So pumping the gas (air) pedal on a fuel injected Honda does nothing. It's just an air valve attached to a 'Throttle Position Sensor', with a return spring for resistance. However: When it's very cold, as per the fine Owner's Manual, you're supposed to hold the pedal half way to the floor. This gives the engine _AIR_, and also sets the computer to the optium settings of fuel mixture and spark advance (probably none). As mentioned before on this group, it's also wise to WAIT several seconds for the fuel pump to charge up the pressure before stying to start in cold weather. Good time to do the 'Lamp Check', also recommended in the manual. On MARKETPLACE (CBC TV comsumer show) tonight, the GM dealer that was being interviewed mentioned that they sell Owner's Manuals for $30,000, and each one comes with a free car. I like that. :-) 'Curly' ================== |
Re: Starting in winter MISINFORMATION ABOUNDS
Tony Hwang wrote:
> > Hi, > Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter > when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual. > Tony > ================ Tony, As a fellow Canadian, and fellow CRV owner, please don't take this wrong, but your manual doesn't say to PUMP the pedal, but to HOLD the pedal half way to the floor, while turning the key to the START position. Injected engines don't have an 'accelerator pump' (to squirt raw gas into the intake), nor do they have a choke assembly (that has to be 'loaded') by pushing the pedal to the floor. So pumping the gas (air) pedal on a fuel injected Honda does nothing. It's just an air valve attached to a 'Throttle Position Sensor', with a return spring for resistance. However: When it's very cold, as per the fine Owner's Manual, you're supposed to hold the pedal half way to the floor. This gives the engine _AIR_, and also sets the computer to the optium settings of fuel mixture and spark advance (probably none). As mentioned before on this group, it's also wise to WAIT several seconds for the fuel pump to charge up the pressure before stying to start in cold weather. Good time to do the 'Lamp Check', also recommended in the manual. On MARKETPLACE (CBC TV comsumer show) tonight, the GM dealer that was being interviewed mentioned that they sell Owner's Manuals for $30,000, and each one comes with a free car. I like that. :-) 'Curly' ================== |
Re: Starting in winter MISINFORMATION ABOUNDS
Tony Hwang wrote:
> > Hi, > Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter > when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual. > Tony > ================ Tony, As a fellow Canadian, and fellow CRV owner, please don't take this wrong, but your manual doesn't say to PUMP the pedal, but to HOLD the pedal half way to the floor, while turning the key to the START position. Injected engines don't have an 'accelerator pump' (to squirt raw gas into the intake), nor do they have a choke assembly (that has to be 'loaded') by pushing the pedal to the floor. So pumping the gas (air) pedal on a fuel injected Honda does nothing. It's just an air valve attached to a 'Throttle Position Sensor', with a return spring for resistance. However: When it's very cold, as per the fine Owner's Manual, you're supposed to hold the pedal half way to the floor. This gives the engine _AIR_, and also sets the computer to the optium settings of fuel mixture and spark advance (probably none). As mentioned before on this group, it's also wise to WAIT several seconds for the fuel pump to charge up the pressure before stying to start in cold weather. Good time to do the 'Lamp Check', also recommended in the manual. On MARKETPLACE (CBC TV comsumer show) tonight, the GM dealer that was being interviewed mentioned that they sell Owner's Manuals for $30,000, and each one comes with a free car. I like that. :-) 'Curly' ================== |
Re: Starting in winter MISINFORMATION ABOUNDS
'Curly Q. Links' wrote: > Tony Hwang wrote: > >>Hi, >>Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter >>when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual. >>Tony >> > > ================ > > Tony, > > As a fellow Canadian, and fellow CRV owner, please don't take this > wrong, but your manual doesn't say to PUMP the pedal, but to HOLD the > pedal half way to the floor, while turning the key to the START > position. > > Injected engines don't have an 'accelerator pump' (to squirt raw gas > into the intake), nor do they have a choke assembly (that has to be > 'loaded') by pushing the pedal to the floor. So pumping the gas (air) > pedal on a fuel injected Honda does nothing. It's just an air valve > attached to a 'Throttle Position Sensor', with a return spring for > resistance. > > However: When it's very cold, as per the fine Owner's Manual, you're > supposed to hold the pedal half way to the floor. This gives the engine > _AIR_, and also sets the computer to the optium settings of fuel mixture > and spark advance (probably none). > > As mentioned before on this group, it's also wise to WAIT several > seconds for the fuel pump to charge up the pressure before stying to > start in cold weather. Good time to do the 'Lamp Check', also > recommended in the manual. > > On MARKETPLACE (CBC TV comsumer show) tonight, the GM dealer that was > being interviewed mentioned that they sell Owner's Manuals for $30,000, > and each one comes with a free car. I like that. :-) > > > 'Curly' > > ================== Hi, I did not mean pumping. Just push the pedal twice or so. Tony |
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