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Re: Starting in winter MISINFORMATION ABOUNDS
'Curly Q. Links' wrote: > Tony Hwang wrote: > >>Hi, >>Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter >>when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual. >>Tony >> > > ================ > > Tony, > > As a fellow Canadian, and fellow CRV owner, please don't take this > wrong, but your manual doesn't say to PUMP the pedal, but to HOLD the > pedal half way to the floor, while turning the key to the START > position. > > Injected engines don't have an 'accelerator pump' (to squirt raw gas > into the intake), nor do they have a choke assembly (that has to be > 'loaded') by pushing the pedal to the floor. So pumping the gas (air) > pedal on a fuel injected Honda does nothing. It's just an air valve > attached to a 'Throttle Position Sensor', with a return spring for > resistance. > > However: When it's very cold, as per the fine Owner's Manual, you're > supposed to hold the pedal half way to the floor. This gives the engine > _AIR_, and also sets the computer to the optium settings of fuel mixture > and spark advance (probably none). > > As mentioned before on this group, it's also wise to WAIT several > seconds for the fuel pump to charge up the pressure before stying to > start in cold weather. Good time to do the 'Lamp Check', also > recommended in the manual. > > On MARKETPLACE (CBC TV comsumer show) tonight, the GM dealer that was > being interviewed mentioned that they sell Owner's Manuals for $30,000, > and each one comes with a free car. I like that. :-) > > > 'Curly' > > ================== Hi, I did not mean pumping. Just push the pedal twice or so. Tony |
Re: Starting in winter MISINFORMATION ABOUNDS
'Curly Q. Links' wrote: > Tony Hwang wrote: > >>Hi, >>Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter >>when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual. >>Tony >> > > ================ > > Tony, > > As a fellow Canadian, and fellow CRV owner, please don't take this > wrong, but your manual doesn't say to PUMP the pedal, but to HOLD the > pedal half way to the floor, while turning the key to the START > position. > > Injected engines don't have an 'accelerator pump' (to squirt raw gas > into the intake), nor do they have a choke assembly (that has to be > 'loaded') by pushing the pedal to the floor. So pumping the gas (air) > pedal on a fuel injected Honda does nothing. It's just an air valve > attached to a 'Throttle Position Sensor', with a return spring for > resistance. > > However: When it's very cold, as per the fine Owner's Manual, you're > supposed to hold the pedal half way to the floor. This gives the engine > _AIR_, and also sets the computer to the optium settings of fuel mixture > and spark advance (probably none). > > As mentioned before on this group, it's also wise to WAIT several > seconds for the fuel pump to charge up the pressure before stying to > start in cold weather. Good time to do the 'Lamp Check', also > recommended in the manual. > > On MARKETPLACE (CBC TV comsumer show) tonight, the GM dealer that was > being interviewed mentioned that they sell Owner's Manuals for $30,000, > and each one comes with a free car. I like that. :-) > > > 'Curly' > > ================== Hi, I did not mean pumping. Just push the pedal twice or so. Tony |
Re: Starting in winter MISINFORMATION ABOUNDS
'Curly Q. Links' wrote: > Tony Hwang wrote: > >>Hi, >>Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter >>when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual. >>Tony >> > > ================ > > Tony, > > As a fellow Canadian, and fellow CRV owner, please don't take this > wrong, but your manual doesn't say to PUMP the pedal, but to HOLD the > pedal half way to the floor, while turning the key to the START > position. > > Injected engines don't have an 'accelerator pump' (to squirt raw gas > into the intake), nor do they have a choke assembly (that has to be > 'loaded') by pushing the pedal to the floor. So pumping the gas (air) > pedal on a fuel injected Honda does nothing. It's just an air valve > attached to a 'Throttle Position Sensor', with a return spring for > resistance. > > However: When it's very cold, as per the fine Owner's Manual, you're > supposed to hold the pedal half way to the floor. This gives the engine > _AIR_, and also sets the computer to the optium settings of fuel mixture > and spark advance (probably none). > > As mentioned before on this group, it's also wise to WAIT several > seconds for the fuel pump to charge up the pressure before stying to > start in cold weather. Good time to do the 'Lamp Check', also > recommended in the manual. > > On MARKETPLACE (CBC TV comsumer show) tonight, the GM dealer that was > being interviewed mentioned that they sell Owner's Manuals for $30,000, > and each one comes with a free car. I like that. :-) > > > 'Curly' > > ================== Hi, I did not mean pumping. Just push the pedal twice or so. Tony |
Re: Starting in winter - Terre-Neuve1.pps (0/1)
This AM had to keep pedal half way to start
R On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 00:04:12 GMT, Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote: >Hi, >Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter >when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual. >Tony > >Bob wrote: >> That morning my outdoor thermotor was at -27C, about -18F...tonight... >> they're forecasting -28C...or -20F...it's presently (18:09 EST -18C) >> Honda in garage...Left the 2004 Matrix AWD with fresh Synthetic >> outside. >> >> I should tape the sounds that baby will make tomorrow AM! >> >> BTW that Matrix AWD is real good in the snow >> >> R >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:49:08 -0600, TL <tlehman@visi.com> wrote: >> >> >>>Glad to hear it. What was the actual temperature? Wind chill doesn't >>>affect starting, only the rate at which the car cools down to the >>>actual temperature. >> >> >> Good to know >> >>>Coldest so far in Saint Paul (Minnesota) was about -5F. The car >>>cranked a little slowly, but started right up. >>> >>>On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:21:21 -0500, Bob <bluesmack@videotron.ca> >>>wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Started my Honda other day...wind chill factored in at -37C... >>>>SouthWest Quebec....Honda belts sqeaked and moaned...but the sweet >>>>baby started... >>>> >>>>R >>>> >> >> |
Re: Starting in winter - Terre-Neuve1.pps (0/1)
This AM had to keep pedal half way to start
R On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 00:04:12 GMT, Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote: >Hi, >Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter >when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual. >Tony > >Bob wrote: >> That morning my outdoor thermotor was at -27C, about -18F...tonight... >> they're forecasting -28C...or -20F...it's presently (18:09 EST -18C) >> Honda in garage...Left the 2004 Matrix AWD with fresh Synthetic >> outside. >> >> I should tape the sounds that baby will make tomorrow AM! >> >> BTW that Matrix AWD is real good in the snow >> >> R >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:49:08 -0600, TL <tlehman@visi.com> wrote: >> >> >>>Glad to hear it. What was the actual temperature? Wind chill doesn't >>>affect starting, only the rate at which the car cools down to the >>>actual temperature. >> >> >> Good to know >> >>>Coldest so far in Saint Paul (Minnesota) was about -5F. The car >>>cranked a little slowly, but started right up. >>> >>>On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:21:21 -0500, Bob <bluesmack@videotron.ca> >>>wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Started my Honda other day...wind chill factored in at -37C... >>>>SouthWest Quebec....Honda belts sqeaked and moaned...but the sweet >>>>baby started... >>>> >>>>R >>>> >> >> |
Re: Starting in winter - Terre-Neuve1.pps (0/1)
This AM had to keep pedal half way to start
R On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 00:04:12 GMT, Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote: >Hi, >Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter >when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual. >Tony > >Bob wrote: >> That morning my outdoor thermotor was at -27C, about -18F...tonight... >> they're forecasting -28C...or -20F...it's presently (18:09 EST -18C) >> Honda in garage...Left the 2004 Matrix AWD with fresh Synthetic >> outside. >> >> I should tape the sounds that baby will make tomorrow AM! >> >> BTW that Matrix AWD is real good in the snow >> >> R >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:49:08 -0600, TL <tlehman@visi.com> wrote: >> >> >>>Glad to hear it. What was the actual temperature? Wind chill doesn't >>>affect starting, only the rate at which the car cools down to the >>>actual temperature. >> >> >> Good to know >> >>>Coldest so far in Saint Paul (Minnesota) was about -5F. The car >>>cranked a little slowly, but started right up. >>> >>>On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:21:21 -0500, Bob <bluesmack@videotron.ca> >>>wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Started my Honda other day...wind chill factored in at -37C... >>>>SouthWest Quebec....Honda belts sqeaked and moaned...but the sweet >>>>baby started... >>>> >>>>R >>>> >> >> |
Re: Starting in winter - Terre-Neuve1.pps (0/1)
This AM had to keep pedal half way to start
R On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 00:04:12 GMT, Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote: >Hi, >Make sure you push the gas pedal 2-3 times before engaging starter >when it is really cold. Even mentionedin the owners manual. >Tony > >Bob wrote: >> That morning my outdoor thermotor was at -27C, about -18F...tonight... >> they're forecasting -28C...or -20F...it's presently (18:09 EST -18C) >> Honda in garage...Left the 2004 Matrix AWD with fresh Synthetic >> outside. >> >> I should tape the sounds that baby will make tomorrow AM! >> >> BTW that Matrix AWD is real good in the snow >> >> R >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 13:49:08 -0600, TL <tlehman@visi.com> wrote: >> >> >>>Glad to hear it. What was the actual temperature? Wind chill doesn't >>>affect starting, only the rate at which the car cools down to the >>>actual temperature. >> >> >> Good to know >> >>>Coldest so far in Saint Paul (Minnesota) was about -5F. The car >>>cranked a little slowly, but started right up. >>> >>>On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 19:21:21 -0500, Bob <bluesmack@videotron.ca> >>>wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Started my Honda other day...wind chill factored in at -37C... >>>>SouthWest Quebec....Honda belts sqeaked and moaned...but the sweet >>>>baby started... >>>> >>>>R >>>> >> >> |
Re: Starting in winter
I know its been a while, but yea -35c is &$^#ing cold. and I agree that
you should give it a bit of gas when that cold! We dont get that cold here, thank God! Ocasonly we see -10f or so. On those days, I will grin and bear it, and start the car manualy with a bit of juice on the peadal. > Hi, > Yup, when it is really cold. I just had to start in -35C weather after > parking the car 2 days outside. Tried remote start not wanting to go > out in the cold. Barely cranking but no go. Tried once more, almost > battery is gone. Went out, pumped pedal, BARELY managed to crank, > fired up right away. I was out at my cabin over the new year's day > week end. Manual mentions it as well. > Tony > > |
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