Sticky gas pedal since 2002 Accord was new
12-13-2006, 12:01 AM
#76
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Re: Sticky gas pedal since 2002 Accord was new
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
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> Tegger wrote:
>>
>>
>> So then I should notice a definite difference after 2K, and I do not.
>> Also, the car used to use no oil at all between changes, but that was
>> 200,000 miles ago.
>
> oil consumption /can/ be worn rings - as discussed before, but my car
> doesn't burn oil if i plod about town. it /does/ burn it if i gun it
> though. that's high temperature.
Definitely. And I did say that. My oil consumption goes down
significantly in the winter, which is definitely due to lower oil
temperatures. At zero F, it's difficult for the oil in the pan to reach
210F even with highway driving.
However, my consumption is still high across the board. And since I'm on
the highway about 80-90% of the time (during off-peak hours), I can't
spend enough time at city speed to be able to see if there's a
difference.
If I ever end up rebuilding my gearbox, I'm contemplating changing the
5th gear set for something higher, to reduce revs at highways speeds.
>
>>
>> And the Tercel uses no oil either. If there were any evaporation
>> going on, I think we'd be seeing it in the Tercel.
>
> does the tercel get driven like the integra? valve timing on that
> thing is real benign, so i doubt it could reach the same combustion
> temps, even at full throttle.
Yes, but as I said earlier, when my car had 75K on it, it used no oil
between changes regardless of how hard the engine was driven. My driving
then was much like it is now.
>>
>> Well he very explicitly and deliberately didn't use anything that
>> might drop into the bore, so that's a non-issue here.
>
> what /did/ he use? i spent hours and hours shaving crud off mine with
> a fine blade. no abrasives. i seriously doubt he had the time to do
> what i did.
He used a blade and time. He tells me there are no shortcuts when
removing the head gasket remnants.
He also says he's seen plenty of engines where someone has used
ScotchBrite or sandpaper to clean the block face, and these invariably
develop oil consumption problems very quickly, much faster than in 40K
miles.
>
>> He reports that when he
>> did my head gasket, the bores were completely unscored, but were
>> shiny smooth all over.
>
> ideally, they should still have shown the original cross-hatching.
Sorry, that's what I meant. The crosshatching wears enough to make the
surface a bit shiny compared to brand new, is what I was getting at.
--
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news:maydnb6nI8hnGeLYnZ2dnUVZ_hm3nZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
> Tegger wrote:
>>
>>
>> So then I should notice a definite difference after 2K, and I do not.
>> Also, the car used to use no oil at all between changes, but that was
>> 200,000 miles ago.
>
> oil consumption /can/ be worn rings - as discussed before, but my car
> doesn't burn oil if i plod about town. it /does/ burn it if i gun it
> though. that's high temperature.
Definitely. And I did say that. My oil consumption goes down
significantly in the winter, which is definitely due to lower oil
temperatures. At zero F, it's difficult for the oil in the pan to reach
210F even with highway driving.
However, my consumption is still high across the board. And since I'm on
the highway about 80-90% of the time (during off-peak hours), I can't
spend enough time at city speed to be able to see if there's a
difference.
If I ever end up rebuilding my gearbox, I'm contemplating changing the
5th gear set for something higher, to reduce revs at highways speeds.
>
>>
>> And the Tercel uses no oil either. If there were any evaporation
>> going on, I think we'd be seeing it in the Tercel.
>
> does the tercel get driven like the integra? valve timing on that
> thing is real benign, so i doubt it could reach the same combustion
> temps, even at full throttle.
Yes, but as I said earlier, when my car had 75K on it, it used no oil
between changes regardless of how hard the engine was driven. My driving
then was much like it is now.
>>
>> Well he very explicitly and deliberately didn't use anything that
>> might drop into the bore, so that's a non-issue here.
>
> what /did/ he use? i spent hours and hours shaving crud off mine with
> a fine blade. no abrasives. i seriously doubt he had the time to do
> what i did.
He used a blade and time. He tells me there are no shortcuts when
removing the head gasket remnants.
He also says he's seen plenty of engines where someone has used
ScotchBrite or sandpaper to clean the block face, and these invariably
develop oil consumption problems very quickly, much faster than in 40K
miles.
>
>> He reports that when he
>> did my head gasket, the bores were completely unscored, but were
>> shiny smooth all over.
>
> ideally, they should still have shown the original cross-hatching.
Sorry, that's what I meant. The crosshatching wears enough to make the
surface a bit shiny compared to brand new, is what I was getting at.
--
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12-13-2006, 12:01 AM
#77
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Re: Sticky gas pedal since 2002 Accord was new
jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:maydnb6nI8hnGeLYnZ2dnUVZ_hm3nZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
> Tegger wrote:
>>
>>
>> So then I should notice a definite difference after 2K, and I do not.
>> Also, the car used to use no oil at all between changes, but that was
>> 200,000 miles ago.
>
> oil consumption /can/ be worn rings - as discussed before, but my car
> doesn't burn oil if i plod about town. it /does/ burn it if i gun it
> though. that's high temperature.
Definitely. And I did say that. My oil consumption goes down
significantly in the winter, which is definitely due to lower oil
temperatures. At zero F, it's difficult for the oil in the pan to reach
210F even with highway driving.
However, my consumption is still high across the board. And since I'm on
the highway about 80-90% of the time (during off-peak hours), I can't
spend enough time at city speed to be able to see if there's a
difference.
If I ever end up rebuilding my gearbox, I'm contemplating changing the
5th gear set for something higher, to reduce revs at highways speeds.
>
>>
>> And the Tercel uses no oil either. If there were any evaporation
>> going on, I think we'd be seeing it in the Tercel.
>
> does the tercel get driven like the integra? valve timing on that
> thing is real benign, so i doubt it could reach the same combustion
> temps, even at full throttle.
Yes, but as I said earlier, when my car had 75K on it, it used no oil
between changes regardless of how hard the engine was driven. My driving
then was much like it is now.
>>
>> Well he very explicitly and deliberately didn't use anything that
>> might drop into the bore, so that's a non-issue here.
>
> what /did/ he use? i spent hours and hours shaving crud off mine with
> a fine blade. no abrasives. i seriously doubt he had the time to do
> what i did.
He used a blade and time. He tells me there are no shortcuts when
removing the head gasket remnants.
He also says he's seen plenty of engines where someone has used
ScotchBrite or sandpaper to clean the block face, and these invariably
develop oil consumption problems very quickly, much faster than in 40K
miles.
>
>> He reports that when he
>> did my head gasket, the bores were completely unscored, but were
>> shiny smooth all over.
>
> ideally, they should still have shown the original cross-hatching.
Sorry, that's what I meant. The crosshatching wears enough to make the
surface a bit shiny compared to brand new, is what I was getting at.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
news:maydnb6nI8hnGeLYnZ2dnUVZ_hm3nZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
> Tegger wrote:
>>
>>
>> So then I should notice a definite difference after 2K, and I do not.
>> Also, the car used to use no oil at all between changes, but that was
>> 200,000 miles ago.
>
> oil consumption /can/ be worn rings - as discussed before, but my car
> doesn't burn oil if i plod about town. it /does/ burn it if i gun it
> though. that's high temperature.
Definitely. And I did say that. My oil consumption goes down
significantly in the winter, which is definitely due to lower oil
temperatures. At zero F, it's difficult for the oil in the pan to reach
210F even with highway driving.
However, my consumption is still high across the board. And since I'm on
the highway about 80-90% of the time (during off-peak hours), I can't
spend enough time at city speed to be able to see if there's a
difference.
If I ever end up rebuilding my gearbox, I'm contemplating changing the
5th gear set for something higher, to reduce revs at highways speeds.
>
>>
>> And the Tercel uses no oil either. If there were any evaporation
>> going on, I think we'd be seeing it in the Tercel.
>
> does the tercel get driven like the integra? valve timing on that
> thing is real benign, so i doubt it could reach the same combustion
> temps, even at full throttle.
Yes, but as I said earlier, when my car had 75K on it, it used no oil
between changes regardless of how hard the engine was driven. My driving
then was much like it is now.
>>
>> Well he very explicitly and deliberately didn't use anything that
>> might drop into the bore, so that's a non-issue here.
>
> what /did/ he use? i spent hours and hours shaving crud off mine with
> a fine blade. no abrasives. i seriously doubt he had the time to do
> what i did.
He used a blade and time. He tells me there are no shortcuts when
removing the head gasket remnants.
He also says he's seen plenty of engines where someone has used
ScotchBrite or sandpaper to clean the block face, and these invariably
develop oil consumption problems very quickly, much faster than in 40K
miles.
>
>> He reports that when he
>> did my head gasket, the bores were completely unscored, but were
>> shiny smooth all over.
>
> ideally, they should still have shown the original cross-hatching.
Sorry, that's what I meant. The crosshatching wears enough to make the
surface a bit shiny compared to brand new, is what I was getting at.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
12-13-2006, 01:25 AM
#78
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Re: Re: Re: Sticky gas pedal since 2002 Accord was new
Tegger,
Thanks so much for your explanation and help.
I did call the dealer I bought the car from. And there IS a TSB for my
car.
They said to pursue this further with the dealer I am having it
serviced at- and because it’s a documented problem that was never
adequately fixed it’s covered under warranty. I will attempt to get my
dealer to fix this, but at this point I do not trust them.
The dealer I bought from is 150 miles away but it will be worth it to
return it to them.
I love my car and have had no probs with it except for this ongoing
problem. Will let you know how this all works out
"Tegger" wrote
> NancyK <none@000.com> wrote in news:949186
> _d0f0c797e95fdfb2a89213dfb98484ed@0000.com:
>
> > Thanks very much Tegger for your reply.
> > I change the oil at the dealer every 3750 miles religiously
> even tho
> > the car is not driven under severe conditions.
> > I think I’m going to take it to the dealership I bought it
> from and
> > see if I can’t get a straight answer.
> > Elmo, the Honda service person said that the Odyssey and the
> Pilot
> > both DO have this problem but not the Accord. (I googled
> this and
> > found that indeed it exists for the Accord too) But I’ll be
> interested
> > in knowing what you’ve done to get yours corrected.
>
>
>
> As I say, there's only one source of oil in the intake. If
> you've changed
> your oil as religiously as you say, then drainback should be
> unimpaired
> from the valve cover baffles and there ought to be no oil in
> the intake.
>
> DID the dealer do a VIN check for TSBs? Did they ever bother
> to remove the
> valve cover and PCV valve to see if the baffles/valve were
> sludged up or
> not? This is not rocket science.
>
> By the way, the type of gasoline used, or the use or non-use
> of additives
> like Techron, will have absolutely zero effect on oil in the
> intake. The
> two things are totally unrelated.
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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Thanks so much for your explanation and help.
I did call the dealer I bought the car from. And there IS a TSB for my
car.
They said to pursue this further with the dealer I am having it
serviced at- and because it’s a documented problem that was never
adequately fixed it’s covered under warranty. I will attempt to get my
dealer to fix this, but at this point I do not trust them.
The dealer I bought from is 150 miles away but it will be worth it to
return it to them.
I love my car and have had no probs with it except for this ongoing
problem. Will let you know how this all works out
"Tegger" wrote
> NancyK <none@000.com> wrote in news:949186
> _d0f0c797e95fdfb2a89213dfb98484ed@0000.com:
>
> > Thanks very much Tegger for your reply.
> > I change the oil at the dealer every 3750 miles religiously
> even tho
> > the car is not driven under severe conditions.
> > I think I’m going to take it to the dealership I bought it
> from and
> > see if I can’t get a straight answer.
> > Elmo, the Honda service person said that the Odyssey and the
> Pilot
> > both DO have this problem but not the Accord. (I googled
> this and
> > found that indeed it exists for the Accord too) But I’ll be
> interested
> > in knowing what you’ve done to get yours corrected.
>
>
>
> As I say, there's only one source of oil in the intake. If
> you've changed
> your oil as religiously as you say, then drainback should be
> unimpaired
> from the valve cover baffles and there ought to be no oil in
> the intake.
>
> DID the dealer do a VIN check for TSBs? Did they ever bother
> to remove the
> valve cover and PCV valve to see if the baffles/valve were
> sludged up or
> not? This is not rocket science.
>
> By the way, the type of gasoline used, or the use or non-use
> of additives
> like Techron, will have absolutely zero effect on oil in the
> intake. The
> two things are totally unrelated.
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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12-13-2006, 01:25 AM
#79
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Re: Re: Re: Sticky gas pedal since 2002 Accord was new
Tegger,
Thanks so much for your explanation and help.
I did call the dealer I bought the car from. And there IS a TSB for my
car.
They said to pursue this further with the dealer I am having it
serviced at- and because it’s a documented problem that was never
adequately fixed it’s covered under warranty. I will attempt to get my
dealer to fix this, but at this point I do not trust them.
The dealer I bought from is 150 miles away but it will be worth it to
return it to them.
I love my car and have had no probs with it except for this ongoing
problem. Will let you know how this all works out
"Tegger" wrote
> NancyK <none@000.com> wrote in news:949186
> _d0f0c797e95fdfb2a89213dfb98484ed@0000.com:
>
> > Thanks very much Tegger for your reply.
> > I change the oil at the dealer every 3750 miles religiously
> even tho
> > the car is not driven under severe conditions.
> > I think I’m going to take it to the dealership I bought it
> from and
> > see if I can’t get a straight answer.
> > Elmo, the Honda service person said that the Odyssey and the
> Pilot
> > both DO have this problem but not the Accord. (I googled
> this and
> > found that indeed it exists for the Accord too) But I’ll be
> interested
> > in knowing what you’ve done to get yours corrected.
>
>
>
> As I say, there's only one source of oil in the intake. If
> you've changed
> your oil as religiously as you say, then drainback should be
> unimpaired
> from the valve cover baffles and there ought to be no oil in
> the intake.
>
> DID the dealer do a VIN check for TSBs? Did they ever bother
> to remove the
> valve cover and PCV valve to see if the baffles/valve were
> sludged up or
> not? This is not rocket science.
>
> By the way, the type of gasoline used, or the use or non-use
> of additives
> like Techron, will have absolutely zero effect on oil in the
> intake. The
> two things are totally unrelated.
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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Thanks so much for your explanation and help.
I did call the dealer I bought the car from. And there IS a TSB for my
car.
They said to pursue this further with the dealer I am having it
serviced at- and because it’s a documented problem that was never
adequately fixed it’s covered under warranty. I will attempt to get my
dealer to fix this, but at this point I do not trust them.
The dealer I bought from is 150 miles away but it will be worth it to
return it to them.
I love my car and have had no probs with it except for this ongoing
problem. Will let you know how this all works out
"Tegger" wrote
> NancyK <none@000.com> wrote in news:949186
> _d0f0c797e95fdfb2a89213dfb98484ed@0000.com:
>
> > Thanks very much Tegger for your reply.
> > I change the oil at the dealer every 3750 miles religiously
> even tho
> > the car is not driven under severe conditions.
> > I think I’m going to take it to the dealership I bought it
> from and
> > see if I can’t get a straight answer.
> > Elmo, the Honda service person said that the Odyssey and the
> Pilot
> > both DO have this problem but not the Accord. (I googled
> this and
> > found that indeed it exists for the Accord too) But I’ll be
> interested
> > in knowing what you’ve done to get yours corrected.
>
>
>
> As I say, there's only one source of oil in the intake. If
> you've changed
> your oil as religiously as you say, then drainback should be
> unimpaired
> from the valve cover baffles and there ought to be no oil in
> the intake.
>
> DID the dealer do a VIN check for TSBs? Did they ever bother
> to remove the
> valve cover and PCV valve to see if the baffles/valve were
> sludged up or
> not? This is not rocket science.
>
> By the way, the type of gasoline used, or the use or non-use
> of additives
> like Techron, will have absolutely zero effect on oil in the
> intake. The
> two things are totally unrelated.
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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12-13-2006, 01:25 AM
#80
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Re: Re: Re: Sticky gas pedal since 2002 Accord was new
Tegger,
Thanks so much for your explanation and help.
I did call the dealer I bought the car from. And there IS a TSB for my
car.
They said to pursue this further with the dealer I am having it
serviced at- and because it’s a documented problem that was never
adequately fixed it’s covered under warranty. I will attempt to get my
dealer to fix this, but at this point I do not trust them.
The dealer I bought from is 150 miles away but it will be worth it to
return it to them.
I love my car and have had no probs with it except for this ongoing
problem. Will let you know how this all works out
"Tegger" wrote
> NancyK <none@000.com> wrote in news:949186
> _d0f0c797e95fdfb2a89213dfb98484ed@0000.com:
>
> > Thanks very much Tegger for your reply.
> > I change the oil at the dealer every 3750 miles religiously
> even tho
> > the car is not driven under severe conditions.
> > I think I’m going to take it to the dealership I bought it
> from and
> > see if I can’t get a straight answer.
> > Elmo, the Honda service person said that the Odyssey and the
> Pilot
> > both DO have this problem but not the Accord. (I googled
> this and
> > found that indeed it exists for the Accord too) But I’ll be
> interested
> > in knowing what you’ve done to get yours corrected.
>
>
>
> As I say, there's only one source of oil in the intake. If
> you've changed
> your oil as religiously as you say, then drainback should be
> unimpaired
> from the valve cover baffles and there ought to be no oil in
> the intake.
>
> DID the dealer do a VIN check for TSBs? Did they ever bother
> to remove the
> valve cover and PCV valve to see if the baffles/valve were
> sludged up or
> not? This is not rocket science.
>
> By the way, the type of gasoline used, or the use or non-use
> of additives
> like Techron, will have absolutely zero effect on oil in the
> intake. The
> two things are totally unrelated.
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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Thanks so much for your explanation and help.
I did call the dealer I bought the car from. And there IS a TSB for my
car.
They said to pursue this further with the dealer I am having it
serviced at- and because it’s a documented problem that was never
adequately fixed it’s covered under warranty. I will attempt to get my
dealer to fix this, but at this point I do not trust them.
The dealer I bought from is 150 miles away but it will be worth it to
return it to them.
I love my car and have had no probs with it except for this ongoing
problem. Will let you know how this all works out
"Tegger" wrote
> NancyK <none@000.com> wrote in news:949186
> _d0f0c797e95fdfb2a89213dfb98484ed@0000.com:
>
> > Thanks very much Tegger for your reply.
> > I change the oil at the dealer every 3750 miles religiously
> even tho
> > the car is not driven under severe conditions.
> > I think I’m going to take it to the dealership I bought it
> from and
> > see if I can’t get a straight answer.
> > Elmo, the Honda service person said that the Odyssey and the
> Pilot
> > both DO have this problem but not the Accord. (I googled
> this and
> > found that indeed it exists for the Accord too) But I’ll be
> interested
> > in knowing what you’ve done to get yours corrected.
>
>
>
> As I say, there's only one source of oil in the intake. If
> you've changed
> your oil as religiously as you say, then drainback should be
> unimpaired
> from the valve cover baffles and there ought to be no oil in
> the intake.
>
> DID the dealer do a VIN check for TSBs? Did they ever bother
> to remove the
> valve cover and PCV valve to see if the baffles/valve were
> sludged up or
> not? This is not rocket science.
>
> By the way, the type of gasoline used, or the use or non-use
> of additives
> like Techron, will have absolutely zero effect on oil in the
> intake. The
> two things are totally unrelated.
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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12-13-2006, 01:25 AM
#81
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Re: Re: Re: Sticky gas pedal since 2002 Accord was new
Tegger,
Thanks so much for your explanation and help.
I did call the dealer I bought the car from. And there IS a TSB for my
car.
They said to pursue this further with the dealer I am having it
serviced at- and because it’s a documented problem that was never
adequately fixed it’s covered under warranty. I will attempt to get my
dealer to fix this, but at this point I do not trust them.
The dealer I bought from is 150 miles away but it will be worth it to
return it to them.
I love my car and have had no probs with it except for this ongoing
problem. Will let you know how this all works out
"Tegger" wrote
> NancyK <none@000.com> wrote in news:949186
> _d0f0c797e95fdfb2a89213dfb98484ed@0000.com:
>
> > Thanks very much Tegger for your reply.
> > I change the oil at the dealer every 3750 miles religiously
> even tho
> > the car is not driven under severe conditions.
> > I think I’m going to take it to the dealership I bought it
> from and
> > see if I can’t get a straight answer.
> > Elmo, the Honda service person said that the Odyssey and the
> Pilot
> > both DO have this problem but not the Accord. (I googled
> this and
> > found that indeed it exists for the Accord too) But I’ll be
> interested
> > in knowing what you’ve done to get yours corrected.
>
>
>
> As I say, there's only one source of oil in the intake. If
> you've changed
> your oil as religiously as you say, then drainback should be
> unimpaired
> from the valve cover baffles and there ought to be no oil in
> the intake.
>
> DID the dealer do a VIN check for TSBs? Did they ever bother
> to remove the
> valve cover and PCV valve to see if the baffles/valve were
> sludged up or
> not? This is not rocket science.
>
> By the way, the type of gasoline used, or the use or non-use
> of additives
> like Techron, will have absolutely zero effect on oil in the
> intake. The
> two things are totally unrelated.
>
> --
> Tegger
>
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Thanks so much for your explanation and help.
I did call the dealer I bought the car from. And there IS a TSB for my
car.
They said to pursue this further with the dealer I am having it
serviced at- and because it’s a documented problem that was never
adequately fixed it’s covered under warranty. I will attempt to get my
dealer to fix this, but at this point I do not trust them.
The dealer I bought from is 150 miles away but it will be worth it to
return it to them.
I love my car and have had no probs with it except for this ongoing
problem. Will let you know how this all works out
"Tegger" wrote
> NancyK <none@000.com> wrote in news:949186
> _d0f0c797e95fdfb2a89213dfb98484ed@0000.com:
>
> > Thanks very much Tegger for your reply.
> > I change the oil at the dealer every 3750 miles religiously
> even tho
> > the car is not driven under severe conditions.
> > I think I’m going to take it to the dealership I bought it
> from and
> > see if I can’t get a straight answer.
> > Elmo, the Honda service person said that the Odyssey and the
> Pilot
> > both DO have this problem but not the Accord. (I googled
> this and
> > found that indeed it exists for the Accord too) But I’ll be
> interested
> > in knowing what you’ve done to get yours corrected.
>
>
>
> As I say, there's only one source of oil in the intake. If
> you've changed
> your oil as religiously as you say, then drainback should be
> unimpaired
> from the valve cover baffles and there ought to be no oil in
> the intake.
>
> DID the dealer do a VIN check for TSBs? Did they ever bother
> to remove the
> valve cover and PCV valve to see if the baffles/valve were
> sludged up or
> not? This is not rocket science.
>
> By the way, the type of gasoline used, or the use or non-use
> of additives
> like Techron, will have absolutely zero effect on oil in the
> intake. The
> two things are totally unrelated.
>
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12-13-2006, 07:25 PM
#82
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Re: Re: Sticky gas pedal since 2002 Accord was new
Thanks for your help Tegger.
Bottom line- they’re gonna fix it!
I had to call Honda customer care to get it addressed, and I have to
take it to the far and away dealer to get it done, but it will get
fixed gratis.
I would have just sucked it up and never questioned them without your
help.
Incidentally, I spoke to the tech who did the work at the dealer who
"diagnosed" it last week. He said he never took off the valve cover
and PCV valve to inspect. They just gave me a price for what they said
"should fix it".
Thanks once again
"Tegger" wrote
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:maydnb6nI8hnGeLYnZ2dnUVZ_hm3nZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
> > Tegger wrote:
>
> >>
> >>
> >> So then I should notice a definite difference after 2K, and
> I do not.
> >> Also, the car used to use no oil at all between changes,
> but that was
> >> 200,000 miles ago.
> >
> > oil consumption /can/ be worn rings - as discussed before,
> but my car
> > doesn't burn oil if i plod about town. it /does/ burn it if
> i gun it
> > though. that's high temperature.
>
>
>
> Definitely. And I did say that. My oil consumption goes down
> significantly in the winter, which is definitely due to lower
> oil
> temperatures. At zero F, it's difficult for the oil in the pan
> to reach
> 210F even with highway driving.
>
> However, my consumption is still high across the board. And
> since I'm on
> the highway about 80-90% of the time (during off-peak hours),
> I can't
> spend enough time at city speed to be able to see if there's a
>
> difference.
>
> If I ever end up rebuilding my gearbox, I'm contemplating
> changing the
> 5th gear set for something higher, to reduce revs at highways
> speeds.
>
>
>
> >
> >>
> >> And the Tercel uses no oil either. If there were any
> evaporation
> >> going on, I think we'd be seeing it in the Tercel.
> >
> > does the tercel get driven like the integra? valve timing
> on that
> > thing is real benign, so i doubt it could reach the same
> combustion
> > temps, even at full throttle.
>
>
>
> Yes, but as I said earlier, when my car had 75K on it, it used
> no oil
> between changes regardless of how hard the engine was driven.
> My driving
> then was much like it is now.
>
>
>
> >>
> >> Well he very explicitly and deliberately didn't use
> anything that
> >> might drop into the bore, so that's a non-issue here.
> >
> > what /did/ he use? i spent hours and hours shaving crud off
> mine with
> > a fine blade. no abrasives. i seriously doubt he had the
> time to do
> > what i did.
>
>
>
> He used a blade and time. He tells me there are no shortcuts
> when
> removing the head gasket remnants.
>
> He also says he's seen plenty of engines where someone has
> used
> ScotchBrite or sandpaper to clean the block face, and these
> invariably
> develop oil consumption problems very quickly, much faster
> than in 40K
> miles.
>
>
>
> >
> >> He reports that when he
> >> did my head gasket, the bores were completely unscored, but
> were
> >> shiny smooth all over.
> >
> > ideally, they should still have shown the original
> cross-hatching.
>
>
>
> Sorry, that's what I meant. The crosshatching wears enough to
> make the
> surface a bit shiny compared to brand new, is what I was
> getting at.
>
>
> --
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>
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Bottom line- they’re gonna fix it!
I had to call Honda customer care to get it addressed, and I have to
take it to the far and away dealer to get it done, but it will get
fixed gratis.
I would have just sucked it up and never questioned them without your
help.
Incidentally, I spoke to the tech who did the work at the dealer who
"diagnosed" it last week. He said he never took off the valve cover
and PCV valve to inspect. They just gave me a price for what they said
"should fix it".
Thanks once again
"Tegger" wrote
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:maydnb6nI8hnGeLYnZ2dnUVZ_hm3nZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
> > Tegger wrote:
>
> >>
> >>
> >> So then I should notice a definite difference after 2K, and
> I do not.
> >> Also, the car used to use no oil at all between changes,
> but that was
> >> 200,000 miles ago.
> >
> > oil consumption /can/ be worn rings - as discussed before,
> but my car
> > doesn't burn oil if i plod about town. it /does/ burn it if
> i gun it
> > though. that's high temperature.
>
>
>
> Definitely. And I did say that. My oil consumption goes down
> significantly in the winter, which is definitely due to lower
> oil
> temperatures. At zero F, it's difficult for the oil in the pan
> to reach
> 210F even with highway driving.
>
> However, my consumption is still high across the board. And
> since I'm on
> the highway about 80-90% of the time (during off-peak hours),
> I can't
> spend enough time at city speed to be able to see if there's a
>
> difference.
>
> If I ever end up rebuilding my gearbox, I'm contemplating
> changing the
> 5th gear set for something higher, to reduce revs at highways
> speeds.
>
>
>
> >
> >>
> >> And the Tercel uses no oil either. If there were any
> evaporation
> >> going on, I think we'd be seeing it in the Tercel.
> >
> > does the tercel get driven like the integra? valve timing
> on that
> > thing is real benign, so i doubt it could reach the same
> combustion
> > temps, even at full throttle.
>
>
>
> Yes, but as I said earlier, when my car had 75K on it, it used
> no oil
> between changes regardless of how hard the engine was driven.
> My driving
> then was much like it is now.
>
>
>
> >>
> >> Well he very explicitly and deliberately didn't use
> anything that
> >> might drop into the bore, so that's a non-issue here.
> >
> > what /did/ he use? i spent hours and hours shaving crud off
> mine with
> > a fine blade. no abrasives. i seriously doubt he had the
> time to do
> > what i did.
>
>
>
> He used a blade and time. He tells me there are no shortcuts
> when
> removing the head gasket remnants.
>
> He also says he's seen plenty of engines where someone has
> used
> ScotchBrite or sandpaper to clean the block face, and these
> invariably
> develop oil consumption problems very quickly, much faster
> than in 40K
> miles.
>
>
>
> >
> >> He reports that when he
> >> did my head gasket, the bores were completely unscored, but
> were
> >> shiny smooth all over.
> >
> > ideally, they should still have shown the original
> cross-hatching.
>
>
>
> Sorry, that's what I meant. The crosshatching wears enough to
> make the
> surface a bit shiny compared to brand new, is what I was
> getting at.
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
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#83
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Re: Re: Sticky gas pedal since 2002 Accord was new
Thanks for your help Tegger.
Bottom line- they’re gonna fix it!
I had to call Honda customer care to get it addressed, and I have to
take it to the far and away dealer to get it done, but it will get
fixed gratis.
I would have just sucked it up and never questioned them without your
help.
Incidentally, I spoke to the tech who did the work at the dealer who
"diagnosed" it last week. He said he never took off the valve cover
and PCV valve to inspect. They just gave me a price for what they said
"should fix it".
Thanks once again
"Tegger" wrote
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:maydnb6nI8hnGeLYnZ2dnUVZ_hm3nZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
> > Tegger wrote:
>
> >>
> >>
> >> So then I should notice a definite difference after 2K, and
> I do not.
> >> Also, the car used to use no oil at all between changes,
> but that was
> >> 200,000 miles ago.
> >
> > oil consumption /can/ be worn rings - as discussed before,
> but my car
> > doesn't burn oil if i plod about town. it /does/ burn it if
> i gun it
> > though. that's high temperature.
>
>
>
> Definitely. And I did say that. My oil consumption goes down
> significantly in the winter, which is definitely due to lower
> oil
> temperatures. At zero F, it's difficult for the oil in the pan
> to reach
> 210F even with highway driving.
>
> However, my consumption is still high across the board. And
> since I'm on
> the highway about 80-90% of the time (during off-peak hours),
> I can't
> spend enough time at city speed to be able to see if there's a
>
> difference.
>
> If I ever end up rebuilding my gearbox, I'm contemplating
> changing the
> 5th gear set for something higher, to reduce revs at highways
> speeds.
>
>
>
> >
> >>
> >> And the Tercel uses no oil either. If there were any
> evaporation
> >> going on, I think we'd be seeing it in the Tercel.
> >
> > does the tercel get driven like the integra? valve timing
> on that
> > thing is real benign, so i doubt it could reach the same
> combustion
> > temps, even at full throttle.
>
>
>
> Yes, but as I said earlier, when my car had 75K on it, it used
> no oil
> between changes regardless of how hard the engine was driven.
> My driving
> then was much like it is now.
>
>
>
> >>
> >> Well he very explicitly and deliberately didn't use
> anything that
> >> might drop into the bore, so that's a non-issue here.
> >
> > what /did/ he use? i spent hours and hours shaving crud off
> mine with
> > a fine blade. no abrasives. i seriously doubt he had the
> time to do
> > what i did.
>
>
>
> He used a blade and time. He tells me there are no shortcuts
> when
> removing the head gasket remnants.
>
> He also says he's seen plenty of engines where someone has
> used
> ScotchBrite or sandpaper to clean the block face, and these
> invariably
> develop oil consumption problems very quickly, much faster
> than in 40K
> miles.
>
>
>
> >
> >> He reports that when he
> >> did my head gasket, the bores were completely unscored, but
> were
> >> shiny smooth all over.
> >
> > ideally, they should still have shown the original
> cross-hatching.
>
>
>
> Sorry, that's what I meant. The crosshatching wears enough to
> make the
> surface a bit shiny compared to brand new, is what I was
> getting at.
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
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Bottom line- they’re gonna fix it!
I had to call Honda customer care to get it addressed, and I have to
take it to the far and away dealer to get it done, but it will get
fixed gratis.
I would have just sucked it up and never questioned them without your
help.
Incidentally, I spoke to the tech who did the work at the dealer who
"diagnosed" it last week. He said he never took off the valve cover
and PCV valve to inspect. They just gave me a price for what they said
"should fix it".
Thanks once again
"Tegger" wrote
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:maydnb6nI8hnGeLYnZ2dnUVZ_hm3nZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
> > Tegger wrote:
>
> >>
> >>
> >> So then I should notice a definite difference after 2K, and
> I do not.
> >> Also, the car used to use no oil at all between changes,
> but that was
> >> 200,000 miles ago.
> >
> > oil consumption /can/ be worn rings - as discussed before,
> but my car
> > doesn't burn oil if i plod about town. it /does/ burn it if
> i gun it
> > though. that's high temperature.
>
>
>
> Definitely. And I did say that. My oil consumption goes down
> significantly in the winter, which is definitely due to lower
> oil
> temperatures. At zero F, it's difficult for the oil in the pan
> to reach
> 210F even with highway driving.
>
> However, my consumption is still high across the board. And
> since I'm on
> the highway about 80-90% of the time (during off-peak hours),
> I can't
> spend enough time at city speed to be able to see if there's a
>
> difference.
>
> If I ever end up rebuilding my gearbox, I'm contemplating
> changing the
> 5th gear set for something higher, to reduce revs at highways
> speeds.
>
>
>
> >
> >>
> >> And the Tercel uses no oil either. If there were any
> evaporation
> >> going on, I think we'd be seeing it in the Tercel.
> >
> > does the tercel get driven like the integra? valve timing
> on that
> > thing is real benign, so i doubt it could reach the same
> combustion
> > temps, even at full throttle.
>
>
>
> Yes, but as I said earlier, when my car had 75K on it, it used
> no oil
> between changes regardless of how hard the engine was driven.
> My driving
> then was much like it is now.
>
>
>
> >>
> >> Well he very explicitly and deliberately didn't use
> anything that
> >> might drop into the bore, so that's a non-issue here.
> >
> > what /did/ he use? i spent hours and hours shaving crud off
> mine with
> > a fine blade. no abrasives. i seriously doubt he had the
> time to do
> > what i did.
>
>
>
> He used a blade and time. He tells me there are no shortcuts
> when
> removing the head gasket remnants.
>
> He also says he's seen plenty of engines where someone has
> used
> ScotchBrite or sandpaper to clean the block face, and these
> invariably
> develop oil consumption problems very quickly, much faster
> than in 40K
> miles.
>
>
>
> >
> >> He reports that when he
> >> did my head gasket, the bores were completely unscored, but
> were
> >> shiny smooth all over.
> >
> > ideally, they should still have shown the original
> cross-hatching.
>
>
>
> Sorry, that's what I meant. The crosshatching wears enough to
> make the
> surface a bit shiny compared to brand new, is what I was
> getting at.
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
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#84
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Re: Re: Sticky gas pedal since 2002 Accord was new
Thanks for your help Tegger.
Bottom line- they’re gonna fix it!
I had to call Honda customer care to get it addressed, and I have to
take it to the far and away dealer to get it done, but it will get
fixed gratis.
I would have just sucked it up and never questioned them without your
help.
Incidentally, I spoke to the tech who did the work at the dealer who
"diagnosed" it last week. He said he never took off the valve cover
and PCV valve to inspect. They just gave me a price for what they said
"should fix it".
Thanks once again
"Tegger" wrote
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:maydnb6nI8hnGeLYnZ2dnUVZ_hm3nZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
> > Tegger wrote:
>
> >>
> >>
> >> So then I should notice a definite difference after 2K, and
> I do not.
> >> Also, the car used to use no oil at all between changes,
> but that was
> >> 200,000 miles ago.
> >
> > oil consumption /can/ be worn rings - as discussed before,
> but my car
> > doesn't burn oil if i plod about town. it /does/ burn it if
> i gun it
> > though. that's high temperature.
>
>
>
> Definitely. And I did say that. My oil consumption goes down
> significantly in the winter, which is definitely due to lower
> oil
> temperatures. At zero F, it's difficult for the oil in the pan
> to reach
> 210F even with highway driving.
>
> However, my consumption is still high across the board. And
> since I'm on
> the highway about 80-90% of the time (during off-peak hours),
> I can't
> spend enough time at city speed to be able to see if there's a
>
> difference.
>
> If I ever end up rebuilding my gearbox, I'm contemplating
> changing the
> 5th gear set for something higher, to reduce revs at highways
> speeds.
>
>
>
> >
> >>
> >> And the Tercel uses no oil either. If there were any
> evaporation
> >> going on, I think we'd be seeing it in the Tercel.
> >
> > does the tercel get driven like the integra? valve timing
> on that
> > thing is real benign, so i doubt it could reach the same
> combustion
> > temps, even at full throttle.
>
>
>
> Yes, but as I said earlier, when my car had 75K on it, it used
> no oil
> between changes regardless of how hard the engine was driven.
> My driving
> then was much like it is now.
>
>
>
> >>
> >> Well he very explicitly and deliberately didn't use
> anything that
> >> might drop into the bore, so that's a non-issue here.
> >
> > what /did/ he use? i spent hours and hours shaving crud off
> mine with
> > a fine blade. no abrasives. i seriously doubt he had the
> time to do
> > what i did.
>
>
>
> He used a blade and time. He tells me there are no shortcuts
> when
> removing the head gasket remnants.
>
> He also says he's seen plenty of engines where someone has
> used
> ScotchBrite or sandpaper to clean the block face, and these
> invariably
> develop oil consumption problems very quickly, much faster
> than in 40K
> miles.
>
>
>
> >
> >> He reports that when he
> >> did my head gasket, the bores were completely unscored, but
> were
> >> shiny smooth all over.
> >
> > ideally, they should still have shown the original
> cross-hatching.
>
>
>
> Sorry, that's what I meant. The crosshatching wears enough to
> make the
> surface a bit shiny compared to brand new, is what I was
> getting at.
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
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> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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Bottom line- they’re gonna fix it!
I had to call Honda customer care to get it addressed, and I have to
take it to the far and away dealer to get it done, but it will get
fixed gratis.
I would have just sucked it up and never questioned them without your
help.
Incidentally, I spoke to the tech who did the work at the dealer who
"diagnosed" it last week. He said he never took off the valve cover
and PCV valve to inspect. They just gave me a price for what they said
"should fix it".
Thanks once again
"Tegger" wrote
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:maydnb6nI8hnGeLYnZ2dnUVZ_hm3nZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
> > Tegger wrote:
>
> >>
> >>
> >> So then I should notice a definite difference after 2K, and
> I do not.
> >> Also, the car used to use no oil at all between changes,
> but that was
> >> 200,000 miles ago.
> >
> > oil consumption /can/ be worn rings - as discussed before,
> but my car
> > doesn't burn oil if i plod about town. it /does/ burn it if
> i gun it
> > though. that's high temperature.
>
>
>
> Definitely. And I did say that. My oil consumption goes down
> significantly in the winter, which is definitely due to lower
> oil
> temperatures. At zero F, it's difficult for the oil in the pan
> to reach
> 210F even with highway driving.
>
> However, my consumption is still high across the board. And
> since I'm on
> the highway about 80-90% of the time (during off-peak hours),
> I can't
> spend enough time at city speed to be able to see if there's a
>
> difference.
>
> If I ever end up rebuilding my gearbox, I'm contemplating
> changing the
> 5th gear set for something higher, to reduce revs at highways
> speeds.
>
>
>
> >
> >>
> >> And the Tercel uses no oil either. If there were any
> evaporation
> >> going on, I think we'd be seeing it in the Tercel.
> >
> > does the tercel get driven like the integra? valve timing
> on that
> > thing is real benign, so i doubt it could reach the same
> combustion
> > temps, even at full throttle.
>
>
>
> Yes, but as I said earlier, when my car had 75K on it, it used
> no oil
> between changes regardless of how hard the engine was driven.
> My driving
> then was much like it is now.
>
>
>
> >>
> >> Well he very explicitly and deliberately didn't use
> anything that
> >> might drop into the bore, so that's a non-issue here.
> >
> > what /did/ he use? i spent hours and hours shaving crud off
> mine with
> > a fine blade. no abrasives. i seriously doubt he had the
> time to do
> > what i did.
>
>
>
> He used a blade and time. He tells me there are no shortcuts
> when
> removing the head gasket remnants.
>
> He also says he's seen plenty of engines where someone has
> used
> ScotchBrite or sandpaper to clean the block face, and these
> invariably
> develop oil consumption problems very quickly, much faster
> than in 40K
> miles.
>
>
>
> >
> >> He reports that when he
> >> did my head gasket, the bores were completely unscored, but
> were
> >> shiny smooth all over.
> >
> > ideally, they should still have shown the original
> cross-hatching.
>
>
>
> Sorry, that's what I meant. The crosshatching wears enough to
> make the
> surface a bit shiny compared to brand new, is what I was
> getting at.
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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12-13-2006, 07:25 PM
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Re: Re: Sticky gas pedal since 2002 Accord was new
Thanks for your help Tegger.
Bottom line- they’re gonna fix it!
I had to call Honda customer care to get it addressed, and I have to
take it to the far and away dealer to get it done, but it will get
fixed gratis.
I would have just sucked it up and never questioned them without your
help.
Incidentally, I spoke to the tech who did the work at the dealer who
"diagnosed" it last week. He said he never took off the valve cover
and PCV valve to inspect. They just gave me a price for what they said
"should fix it".
Thanks once again
"Tegger" wrote
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:maydnb6nI8hnGeLYnZ2dnUVZ_hm3nZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
> > Tegger wrote:
>
> >>
> >>
> >> So then I should notice a definite difference after 2K, and
> I do not.
> >> Also, the car used to use no oil at all between changes,
> but that was
> >> 200,000 miles ago.
> >
> > oil consumption /can/ be worn rings - as discussed before,
> but my car
> > doesn't burn oil if i plod about town. it /does/ burn it if
> i gun it
> > though. that's high temperature.
>
>
>
> Definitely. And I did say that. My oil consumption goes down
> significantly in the winter, which is definitely due to lower
> oil
> temperatures. At zero F, it's difficult for the oil in the pan
> to reach
> 210F even with highway driving.
>
> However, my consumption is still high across the board. And
> since I'm on
> the highway about 80-90% of the time (during off-peak hours),
> I can't
> spend enough time at city speed to be able to see if there's a
>
> difference.
>
> If I ever end up rebuilding my gearbox, I'm contemplating
> changing the
> 5th gear set for something higher, to reduce revs at highways
> speeds.
>
>
>
> >
> >>
> >> And the Tercel uses no oil either. If there were any
> evaporation
> >> going on, I think we'd be seeing it in the Tercel.
> >
> > does the tercel get driven like the integra? valve timing
> on that
> > thing is real benign, so i doubt it could reach the same
> combustion
> > temps, even at full throttle.
>
>
>
> Yes, but as I said earlier, when my car had 75K on it, it used
> no oil
> between changes regardless of how hard the engine was driven.
> My driving
> then was much like it is now.
>
>
>
> >>
> >> Well he very explicitly and deliberately didn't use
> anything that
> >> might drop into the bore, so that's a non-issue here.
> >
> > what /did/ he use? i spent hours and hours shaving crud off
> mine with
> > a fine blade. no abrasives. i seriously doubt he had the
> time to do
> > what i did.
>
>
>
> He used a blade and time. He tells me there are no shortcuts
> when
> removing the head gasket remnants.
>
> He also says he's seen plenty of engines where someone has
> used
> ScotchBrite or sandpaper to clean the block face, and these
> invariably
> develop oil consumption problems very quickly, much faster
> than in 40K
> miles.
>
>
>
> >
> >> He reports that when he
> >> did my head gasket, the bores were completely unscored, but
> were
> >> shiny smooth all over.
> >
> > ideally, they should still have shown the original
> cross-hatching.
>
>
>
> Sorry, that's what I meant. The crosshatching wears enough to
> make the
> surface a bit shiny compared to brand new, is what I was
> getting at.
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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Bottom line- they’re gonna fix it!
I had to call Honda customer care to get it addressed, and I have to
take it to the far and away dealer to get it done, but it will get
fixed gratis.
I would have just sucked it up and never questioned them without your
help.
Incidentally, I spoke to the tech who did the work at the dealer who
"diagnosed" it last week. He said he never took off the valve cover
and PCV valve to inspect. They just gave me a price for what they said
"should fix it".
Thanks once again
"Tegger" wrote
> jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
> news:maydnb6nI8hnGeLYnZ2dnUVZ_hm3nZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
> > Tegger wrote:
>
> >>
> >>
> >> So then I should notice a definite difference after 2K, and
> I do not.
> >> Also, the car used to use no oil at all between changes,
> but that was
> >> 200,000 miles ago.
> >
> > oil consumption /can/ be worn rings - as discussed before,
> but my car
> > doesn't burn oil if i plod about town. it /does/ burn it if
> i gun it
> > though. that's high temperature.
>
>
>
> Definitely. And I did say that. My oil consumption goes down
> significantly in the winter, which is definitely due to lower
> oil
> temperatures. At zero F, it's difficult for the oil in the pan
> to reach
> 210F even with highway driving.
>
> However, my consumption is still high across the board. And
> since I'm on
> the highway about 80-90% of the time (during off-peak hours),
> I can't
> spend enough time at city speed to be able to see if there's a
>
> difference.
>
> If I ever end up rebuilding my gearbox, I'm contemplating
> changing the
> 5th gear set for something higher, to reduce revs at highways
> speeds.
>
>
>
> >
> >>
> >> And the Tercel uses no oil either. If there were any
> evaporation
> >> going on, I think we'd be seeing it in the Tercel.
> >
> > does the tercel get driven like the integra? valve timing
> on that
> > thing is real benign, so i doubt it could reach the same
> combustion
> > temps, even at full throttle.
>
>
>
> Yes, but as I said earlier, when my car had 75K on it, it used
> no oil
> between changes regardless of how hard the engine was driven.
> My driving
> then was much like it is now.
>
>
>
> >>
> >> Well he very explicitly and deliberately didn't use
> anything that
> >> might drop into the bore, so that's a non-issue here.
> >
> > what /did/ he use? i spent hours and hours shaving crud off
> mine with
> > a fine blade. no abrasives. i seriously doubt he had the
> time to do
> > what i did.
>
>
>
> He used a blade and time. He tells me there are no shortcuts
> when
> removing the head gasket remnants.
>
> He also says he's seen plenty of engines where someone has
> used
> ScotchBrite or sandpaper to clean the block face, and these
> invariably
> develop oil consumption problems very quickly, much faster
> than in 40K
> miles.
>
>
>
> >
> >> He reports that when he
> >> did my head gasket, the bores were completely unscored, but
> were
> >> shiny smooth all over.
> >
> > ideally, they should still have shown the original
> cross-hatching.
>
>
>
> Sorry, that's what I meant. The crosshatching wears enough to
> make the
> surface a bit shiny compared to brand new, is what I was
> getting at.
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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12-14-2006, 07:36 AM
#86
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Re: Re: Sticky gas pedal since 2002 Accord was new
NancyK <none@000.com> wrote in news:950751
_a14bce518bbd9b5b41aa6c711ae07e9d@autoboardz.com:
> Thanks for your help Tegger.
> Bottom line- they’re gonna fix it!
> I had to call Honda customer care to get it addressed, and I have to
> take it to the far and away dealer to get it done, but it will get
> fixed gratis.
>
> I would have just sucked it up and never questioned them without your
> help.
You're lucky. Unless it's a Safety Recall, TSB repairs are often your
responsibility when the car's out of warranty. You must have been nice to
them.
>
> Incidentally, I spoke to the tech who did the work at the dealer who
> "diagnosed" it last week. He said he never took off the valve cover
> and PCV valve to inspect. They just gave me a price for what they said
> "should fix it".
He's a bad boy. He obviously doesn't know enough to check for TSBs and
recalls, which is the FIRST thing that should be done.
>
> Thanks once again.
I love happy endings.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
_a14bce518bbd9b5b41aa6c711ae07e9d@autoboardz.com:
> Thanks for your help Tegger.
> Bottom line- they’re gonna fix it!
> I had to call Honda customer care to get it addressed, and I have to
> take it to the far and away dealer to get it done, but it will get
> fixed gratis.
>
> I would have just sucked it up and never questioned them without your
> help.
You're lucky. Unless it's a Safety Recall, TSB repairs are often your
responsibility when the car's out of warranty. You must have been nice to
them.
>
> Incidentally, I spoke to the tech who did the work at the dealer who
> "diagnosed" it last week. He said he never took off the valve cover
> and PCV valve to inspect. They just gave me a price for what they said
> "should fix it".
He's a bad boy. He obviously doesn't know enough to check for TSBs and
recalls, which is the FIRST thing that should be done.
>
> Thanks once again.
I love happy endings.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
12-14-2006, 07:36 AM
#87
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Re: Re: Sticky gas pedal since 2002 Accord was new
NancyK <none@000.com> wrote in news:950751
_a14bce518bbd9b5b41aa6c711ae07e9d@autoboardz.com:
> Thanks for your help Tegger.
> Bottom line- they’re gonna fix it!
> I had to call Honda customer care to get it addressed, and I have to
> take it to the far and away dealer to get it done, but it will get
> fixed gratis.
>
> I would have just sucked it up and never questioned them without your
> help.
You're lucky. Unless it's a Safety Recall, TSB repairs are often your
responsibility when the car's out of warranty. You must have been nice to
them.
>
> Incidentally, I spoke to the tech who did the work at the dealer who
> "diagnosed" it last week. He said he never took off the valve cover
> and PCV valve to inspect. They just gave me a price for what they said
> "should fix it".
He's a bad boy. He obviously doesn't know enough to check for TSBs and
recalls, which is the FIRST thing that should be done.
>
> Thanks once again.
I love happy endings.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
_a14bce518bbd9b5b41aa6c711ae07e9d@autoboardz.com:
> Thanks for your help Tegger.
> Bottom line- they’re gonna fix it!
> I had to call Honda customer care to get it addressed, and I have to
> take it to the far and away dealer to get it done, but it will get
> fixed gratis.
>
> I would have just sucked it up and never questioned them without your
> help.
You're lucky. Unless it's a Safety Recall, TSB repairs are often your
responsibility when the car's out of warranty. You must have been nice to
them.
>
> Incidentally, I spoke to the tech who did the work at the dealer who
> "diagnosed" it last week. He said he never took off the valve cover
> and PCV valve to inspect. They just gave me a price for what they said
> "should fix it".
He's a bad boy. He obviously doesn't know enough to check for TSBs and
recalls, which is the FIRST thing that should be done.
>
> Thanks once again.
I love happy endings.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
12-14-2006, 07:36 AM
#88
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Re: Re: Sticky gas pedal since 2002 Accord was new
NancyK <none@000.com> wrote in news:950751
_a14bce518bbd9b5b41aa6c711ae07e9d@autoboardz.com:
> Thanks for your help Tegger.
> Bottom line- they’re gonna fix it!
> I had to call Honda customer care to get it addressed, and I have to
> take it to the far and away dealer to get it done, but it will get
> fixed gratis.
>
> I would have just sucked it up and never questioned them without your
> help.
You're lucky. Unless it's a Safety Recall, TSB repairs are often your
responsibility when the car's out of warranty. You must have been nice to
them.
>
> Incidentally, I spoke to the tech who did the work at the dealer who
> "diagnosed" it last week. He said he never took off the valve cover
> and PCV valve to inspect. They just gave me a price for what they said
> "should fix it".
He's a bad boy. He obviously doesn't know enough to check for TSBs and
recalls, which is the FIRST thing that should be done.
>
> Thanks once again.
I love happy endings.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
_a14bce518bbd9b5b41aa6c711ae07e9d@autoboardz.com:
> Thanks for your help Tegger.
> Bottom line- they’re gonna fix it!
> I had to call Honda customer care to get it addressed, and I have to
> take it to the far and away dealer to get it done, but it will get
> fixed gratis.
>
> I would have just sucked it up and never questioned them without your
> help.
You're lucky. Unless it's a Safety Recall, TSB repairs are often your
responsibility when the car's out of warranty. You must have been nice to
them.
>
> Incidentally, I spoke to the tech who did the work at the dealer who
> "diagnosed" it last week. He said he never took off the valve cover
> and PCV valve to inspect. They just gave me a price for what they said
> "should fix it".
He's a bad boy. He obviously doesn't know enough to check for TSBs and
recalls, which is the FIRST thing that should be done.
>
> Thanks once again.
I love happy endings.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
12-14-2006, 07:36 AM
#89
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Re: Re: Sticky gas pedal since 2002 Accord was new
NancyK <none@000.com> wrote in news:950751
_a14bce518bbd9b5b41aa6c711ae07e9d@autoboardz.com:
> Thanks for your help Tegger.
> Bottom line- they’re gonna fix it!
> I had to call Honda customer care to get it addressed, and I have to
> take it to the far and away dealer to get it done, but it will get
> fixed gratis.
>
> I would have just sucked it up and never questioned them without your
> help.
You're lucky. Unless it's a Safety Recall, TSB repairs are often your
responsibility when the car's out of warranty. You must have been nice to
them.
>
> Incidentally, I spoke to the tech who did the work at the dealer who
> "diagnosed" it last week. He said he never took off the valve cover
> and PCV valve to inspect. They just gave me a price for what they said
> "should fix it".
He's a bad boy. He obviously doesn't know enough to check for TSBs and
recalls, which is the FIRST thing that should be done.
>
> Thanks once again.
I love happy endings.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
_a14bce518bbd9b5b41aa6c711ae07e9d@autoboardz.com:
> Thanks for your help Tegger.
> Bottom line- they’re gonna fix it!
> I had to call Honda customer care to get it addressed, and I have to
> take it to the far and away dealer to get it done, but it will get
> fixed gratis.
>
> I would have just sucked it up and never questioned them without your
> help.
You're lucky. Unless it's a Safety Recall, TSB repairs are often your
responsibility when the car's out of warranty. You must have been nice to
them.
>
> Incidentally, I spoke to the tech who did the work at the dealer who
> "diagnosed" it last week. He said he never took off the valve cover
> and PCV valve to inspect. They just gave me a price for what they said
> "should fix it".
He's a bad boy. He obviously doesn't know enough to check for TSBs and
recalls, which is the FIRST thing that should be done.
>
> Thanks once again.
I love happy endings.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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