Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
12-28-2003, 07:22 AM
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Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:56:22 GMT, Gus <GusPod@optOFFline.XXXX.net> wrote:
>George Macdonald wrote:
>
>(snip)
>
>> No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake
>> fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells.
>
>Why is that?
It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I
decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found
the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along
with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't
understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the
reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the
reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an
undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol
stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of
residue after another 20K miles.
Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have
different stuff in them.
Rgds, George Macdonald
"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
>George Macdonald wrote:
>
>(snip)
>
>> No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake
>> fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells.
>
>Why is that?
It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I
decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found
the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along
with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't
understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the
reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the
reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an
undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol
stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of
residue after another 20K miles.
Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have
different stuff in them.
Rgds, George Macdonald
"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
12-28-2003, 07:22 AM
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Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:56:22 GMT, Gus <GusPod@optOFFline.XXXX.net> wrote:
>George Macdonald wrote:
>
>(snip)
>
>> No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake
>> fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells.
>
>Why is that?
It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I
decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found
the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along
with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't
understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the
reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the
reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an
undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol
stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of
residue after another 20K miles.
Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have
different stuff in them.
Rgds, George Macdonald
"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
>George Macdonald wrote:
>
>(snip)
>
>> No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake
>> fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells.
>
>Why is that?
It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I
decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found
the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along
with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't
understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the
reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the
reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an
undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol
stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of
residue after another 20K miles.
Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have
different stuff in them.
Rgds, George Macdonald
"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
12-28-2003, 07:22 AM
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Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:56:22 GMT, Gus <GusPod@optOFFline.XXXX.net> wrote:
>George Macdonald wrote:
>
>(snip)
>
>> No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake
>> fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells.
>
>Why is that?
It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I
decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found
the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along
with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't
understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the
reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the
reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an
undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol
stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of
residue after another 20K miles.
Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have
different stuff in them.
Rgds, George Macdonald
"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
>George Macdonald wrote:
>
>(snip)
>
>> No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake
>> fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells.
>
>Why is that?
It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I
decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found
the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along
with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't
understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the
reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the
reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an
undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol
stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of
residue after another 20K miles.
Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have
different stuff in them.
Rgds, George Macdonald
"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
12-28-2003, 07:22 AM
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Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:56:22 GMT, Gus <GusPod@optOFFline.XXXX.net> wrote:
>George Macdonald wrote:
>
>(snip)
>
>> No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake
>> fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells.
>
>Why is that?
It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I
decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found
the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along
with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't
understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the
reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the
reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an
undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol
stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of
residue after another 20K miles.
Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have
different stuff in them.
Rgds, George Macdonald
"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
>George Macdonald wrote:
>
>(snip)
>
>> No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake
>> fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells.
>
>Why is that?
It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I
decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found
the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along
with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't
understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the
reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the
reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an
undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol
stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of
residue after another 20K miles.
Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have
different stuff in them.
Rgds, George Macdonald
"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
12-29-2003, 03:28 PM
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Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
George Macdonald wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:56:22 GMT, Gus <GusPod@optOFFline.XXXX.net> wrote:
>
>>George Macdonald wrote:
>>
>>(snip)
>>
>>>No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake
>>>fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells.
>>
>>Why is that?
>
> It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I
> decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found
> the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along
> with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't
> understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the
> reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the
> reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an
> undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol
> stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of
> residue after another 20K miles.
>
> Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have
> different stuff in them.
Thanks, George, something I'll definitely have to keep an eye on.
Slime/rubber particles would upset me, too.
However, sounds as though your experience was with the factory fill, not
what the US Honda dealers are selling, correct?
My Honda is only 6 months old, but I never had any like problems with my
'88 Integra.
> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:56:22 GMT, Gus <GusPod@optOFFline.XXXX.net> wrote:
>
>>George Macdonald wrote:
>>
>>(snip)
>>
>>>No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake
>>>fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells.
>>
>>Why is that?
>
> It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I
> decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found
> the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along
> with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't
> understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the
> reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the
> reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an
> undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol
> stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of
> residue after another 20K miles.
>
> Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have
> different stuff in them.
Thanks, George, something I'll definitely have to keep an eye on.
Slime/rubber particles would upset me, too.
However, sounds as though your experience was with the factory fill, not
what the US Honda dealers are selling, correct?
My Honda is only 6 months old, but I never had any like problems with my
'88 Integra.
12-29-2003, 03:28 PM
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Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
George Macdonald wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:56:22 GMT, Gus <GusPod@optOFFline.XXXX.net> wrote:
>
>>George Macdonald wrote:
>>
>>(snip)
>>
>>>No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake
>>>fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells.
>>
>>Why is that?
>
> It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I
> decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found
> the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along
> with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't
> understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the
> reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the
> reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an
> undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol
> stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of
> residue after another 20K miles.
>
> Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have
> different stuff in them.
Thanks, George, something I'll definitely have to keep an eye on.
Slime/rubber particles would upset me, too.
However, sounds as though your experience was with the factory fill, not
what the US Honda dealers are selling, correct?
My Honda is only 6 months old, but I never had any like problems with my
'88 Integra.
> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:56:22 GMT, Gus <GusPod@optOFFline.XXXX.net> wrote:
>
>>George Macdonald wrote:
>>
>>(snip)
>>
>>>No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake
>>>fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells.
>>
>>Why is that?
>
> It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I
> decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found
> the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along
> with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't
> understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the
> reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the
> reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an
> undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol
> stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of
> residue after another 20K miles.
>
> Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have
> different stuff in them.
Thanks, George, something I'll definitely have to keep an eye on.
Slime/rubber particles would upset me, too.
However, sounds as though your experience was with the factory fill, not
what the US Honda dealers are selling, correct?
My Honda is only 6 months old, but I never had any like problems with my
'88 Integra.
12-29-2003, 03:28 PM
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Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
George Macdonald wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:56:22 GMT, Gus <GusPod@optOFFline.XXXX.net> wrote:
>
>>George Macdonald wrote:
>>
>>(snip)
>>
>>>No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake
>>>fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells.
>>
>>Why is that?
>
> It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I
> decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found
> the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along
> with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't
> understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the
> reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the
> reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an
> undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol
> stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of
> residue after another 20K miles.
>
> Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have
> different stuff in them.
Thanks, George, something I'll definitely have to keep an eye on.
Slime/rubber particles would upset me, too.
However, sounds as though your experience was with the factory fill, not
what the US Honda dealers are selling, correct?
My Honda is only 6 months old, but I never had any like problems with my
'88 Integra.
> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:56:22 GMT, Gus <GusPod@optOFFline.XXXX.net> wrote:
>
>>George Macdonald wrote:
>>
>>(snip)
>>
>>>No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake
>>>fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells.
>>
>>Why is that?
>
> It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I
> decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found
> the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along
> with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't
> understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the
> reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the
> reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an
> undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol
> stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of
> residue after another 20K miles.
>
> Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have
> different stuff in them.
Thanks, George, something I'll definitely have to keep an eye on.
Slime/rubber particles would upset me, too.
However, sounds as though your experience was with the factory fill, not
what the US Honda dealers are selling, correct?
My Honda is only 6 months old, but I never had any like problems with my
'88 Integra.
12-29-2003, 03:28 PM
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Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
George Macdonald wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:56:22 GMT, Gus <GusPod@optOFFline.XXXX.net> wrote:
>
>>George Macdonald wrote:
>>
>>(snip)
>>
>>>No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake
>>>fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells.
>>
>>Why is that?
>
> It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I
> decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found
> the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along
> with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't
> understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the
> reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the
> reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an
> undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol
> stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of
> residue after another 20K miles.
>
> Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have
> different stuff in them.
Thanks, George, something I'll definitely have to keep an eye on.
Slime/rubber particles would upset me, too.
However, sounds as though your experience was with the factory fill, not
what the US Honda dealers are selling, correct?
My Honda is only 6 months old, but I never had any like problems with my
'88 Integra.
> On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:56:22 GMT, Gus <GusPod@optOFFline.XXXX.net> wrote:
>
>>George Macdonald wrote:
>>
>>(snip)
>>
>>>No it will not mess up the system - IMO just about any aftermarket brake
>>>fluid is better than the stuff that Honda sells.
>>
>>Why is that?
>
> It's been mentioned here a few times by others as well as me. When I
> decided to change the clutch fluid on my '99 Integra at ~16K miles I found
> the old stuff viscous and slimey. After sucking the old fluid out, along
> with a slight residue of what could only be rubber particles, I couldn't
> understand at first why the fresh Castrol GTLMA still looked dark in the
> reservoir. Turns out it was a coating of slime on the inside of the
> reservoir which I had to wipe off. To me this is not normal, is an
> undesirable characteristics for a hydraulic fluid and the fresh Castrol
> stuff never discolored as badly nor turned slimey nor showed any sign of
> residue after another 20K miles.
>
> Note the Integra was built in Japan so the U.S. built cars may have
> different stuff in them.
Thanks, George, something I'll definitely have to keep an eye on.
Slime/rubber particles would upset me, too.
However, sounds as though your experience was with the factory fill, not
what the US Honda dealers are selling, correct?
My Honda is only 6 months old, but I never had any like problems with my
'88 Integra.
09-09-2004, 11:02 AM
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Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
The slime is the result of water mixing with the fluid. This is "normal".
Why the industry still uses a fluid that attracts water is beyond me. NATO
and the airlines have switced to alternative fluids many years ago; as have
a few car venders.
Richard.
09-09-2004, 11:02 AM
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Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
The slime is the result of water mixing with the fluid. This is "normal".
Why the industry still uses a fluid that attracts water is beyond me. NATO
and the airlines have switced to alternative fluids many years ago; as have
a few car venders.
Richard.
09-09-2004, 12:57 PM
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Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
Richard wrote:
>
> The slime is the result of water mixing with the fluid. This is "normal".
> Why the industry still uses a fluid that attracts water is beyond me. NATO
> and the airlines have switced to alternative fluids many years ago; as have
> a few car venders.
>
> Richard.
The biggest risk of using synthetic, (silicone), brake fluids is leakage
into the engine via a defective master cylinder/brake booster. Silicone
will quickly convert back to its roots, sandy like grit that will
quickly ruin an engine.
--
JT
Just tooling through cyberspace in my ancient G4
09-09-2004, 12:57 PM
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Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
Richard wrote:
>
> The slime is the result of water mixing with the fluid. This is "normal".
> Why the industry still uses a fluid that attracts water is beyond me. NATO
> and the airlines have switced to alternative fluids many years ago; as have
> a few car venders.
>
> Richard.
The biggest risk of using synthetic, (silicone), brake fluids is leakage
into the engine via a defective master cylinder/brake booster. Silicone
will quickly convert back to its roots, sandy like grit that will
quickly ruin an engine.
--
JT
Just tooling through cyberspace in my ancient G4
09-09-2004, 01:38 PM
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Re: Is Synthetic Brake fluid OK to use??
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>
> Richard wrote:
>>
>> The slime is the result of water mixing with the fluid. This is "normal".
>> Why the industry still uses a fluid that attracts water is beyond me.
>> NATO
>> and the airlines have switced to alternative fluids many years ago; as
>> have
>> a few car venders.
>>
>> Richard.
>
>
> The biggest risk of using synthetic, (silicone), brake fluids is leakage
> into the engine via a defective master cylinder/brake booster. Silicone
> will quickly convert back to its roots, sandy like grit that will
> quickly ruin an engine.
I would think silicon would do that, not silicone.