2003 Sonata 2-3 up shift problem
05-28-2004, 09:49 PM
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Re: 2003 Sonata 2-3 up shift problem
In article <nROtc.4706$YZ4.4700@bignews2.bellsouth.net>, "FerdyPooh"
<fredjr1@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
><theta00k@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:4bc10560.0405280932.616423e@posting.google.c om...
>> "FerdyPooh" <fredjr1@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>news:<o2yjc.23390$oN1.20525@bignews5.bellsouth.ne t>...
>> > Thought I'd throw in a comment here also---
>> >
>> > I have a 2004 Sonata GLS which has performed flawlessly since
>> > delivery---except for the "peculiarity" that you have experienced.
>> >
>> > My Sonata has the delayed 2-3 upshift occurrence also; it's only from
>cold
>> > starts and disappears after the first 1/2 to 1 mile of driving, or at
>the
>> > point of the first 2-3 upshift, whichever comes first. It then behaves
>> > normally. As a side note, my car was delivered to me from the dealer
>1/2 to
>> > 3/4 of a quart low on transmission fluid----after adding the proper
>Hyundai
>> > SP-III fluid to the tranny, the occurrence seemed to become better (by
>that,
>> > I mean that RPM's did not get as high and the "flare" not as severe
>before
>> > the upshift occurred).
>>
>> Transmission shift flare refers to engine RPM shooting up momentarily
>> with a sensation of the tranny in NEUTRAL. Delayed shifting is
>> something else. It's normal when the engine is cold.
>>
>> > My personal feelings are that this is normal for Hyundai automatics, as
>I
>> > traded a 2002 Elantra GLS for this car, and the Elantra had the same
>> > anomaly. However, the referenced TSB's in this thread do not seem to
>apply
>> > to '04 models (correct me if wrong).
>>
>> What is the manufacture date of your car?
>
>August 16, 2003
That falls within the production range specified in the TSB. Have your dealer
update the TCM.
<fredjr1@bellsouth.net> wrote:
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><theta00k@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:4bc10560.0405280932.616423e@posting.google.c om...
>> "FerdyPooh" <fredjr1@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>news:<o2yjc.23390$oN1.20525@bignews5.bellsouth.ne t>...
>> > Thought I'd throw in a comment here also---
>> >
>> > I have a 2004 Sonata GLS which has performed flawlessly since
>> > delivery---except for the "peculiarity" that you have experienced.
>> >
>> > My Sonata has the delayed 2-3 upshift occurrence also; it's only from
>cold
>> > starts and disappears after the first 1/2 to 1 mile of driving, or at
>the
>> > point of the first 2-3 upshift, whichever comes first. It then behaves
>> > normally. As a side note, my car was delivered to me from the dealer
>1/2 to
>> > 3/4 of a quart low on transmission fluid----after adding the proper
>Hyundai
>> > SP-III fluid to the tranny, the occurrence seemed to become better (by
>that,
>> > I mean that RPM's did not get as high and the "flare" not as severe
>before
>> > the upshift occurred).
>>
>> Transmission shift flare refers to engine RPM shooting up momentarily
>> with a sensation of the tranny in NEUTRAL. Delayed shifting is
>> something else. It's normal when the engine is cold.
>>
>> > My personal feelings are that this is normal for Hyundai automatics, as
>I
>> > traded a 2002 Elantra GLS for this car, and the Elantra had the same
>> > anomaly. However, the referenced TSB's in this thread do not seem to
>apply
>> > to '04 models (correct me if wrong).
>>
>> What is the manufacture date of your car?
>
>August 16, 2003
That falls within the production range specified in the TSB. Have your dealer
update the TCM.
05-31-2004, 08:10 PM
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Re: 2003 Sonata 2-3 up shift problem
On Wed, 26 May 2004 07:38:11 -0400, Jason
>
>I'd just like to post up here again to let you guys know that the 2-3
>and 3-4 upshift lag has, for the most part, finally gone away. It
>only took 1000 miles...
>
>My car still skips 2nd gear on the way down though unless I decelerate
>slowly.
Just turned 9000 on my '04 and still no change in shift pattern. I'm
going to have to go back to the dealer again I guess. BTW, my '04 has
a manufacture date of Aug 12, 2003
>
>I'd just like to post up here again to let you guys know that the 2-3
>and 3-4 upshift lag has, for the most part, finally gone away. It
>only took 1000 miles...
>
>My car still skips 2nd gear on the way down though unless I decelerate
>slowly.
Just turned 9000 on my '04 and still no change in shift pattern. I'm
going to have to go back to the dealer again I guess. BTW, my '04 has
a manufacture date of Aug 12, 2003
05-31-2004, 08:13 PM
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Re: 2003 Sonata 2-3 up shift problem
On 28 May 2004 10:42:02 -0700, theta00k@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>Try this. Pull the TCM fuse off the fuse panel and put it back after
>about a minute.
>
Where is this TCM fuse? I looked, but didn't see one called TCM??
>
>Try this. Pull the TCM fuse off the fuse panel and put it back after
>about a minute.
>
Where is this TCM fuse? I looked, but didn't see one called TCM??
06-03-2004, 08:15 AM
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Where is the TCM fuse
>On 28 May 2004 10:42:02 -0700, theta00k@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Try this. Pull the TCM fuse off the fuse panel and put it back after
>>about a minute.
>>
Where is this TCM fuse on my '04 Sonata? I've looked, but can't find
one called TCM?
06-05-2004, 07:39 PM
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Re: 2003 Sonata 2-3 up shift problem
My 2oo2 Elantra does the same thing.From new. Software update and all. My
dealer says the same thing. "this is normal". We all know a car shouldn't
work like this, so the BIG question is, what else does Hyundai consider
"normal"
"wm" <flameout00@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40bbc926.340747296@news.comcast.giganews.com. ..
> On Wed, 26 May 2004 07:38:11 -0400, Jason
> >
> >I'd just like to post up here again to let you guys know that the 2-3
> >and 3-4 upshift lag has, for the most part, finally gone away. It
> >only took 1000 miles...
> >
> >My car still skips 2nd gear on the way down though unless I decelerate
> >slowly.
>
> Just turned 9000 on my '04 and still no change in shift pattern. I'm
> going to have to go back to the dealer again I guess. BTW, my '04 has
> a manufacture date of Aug 12, 2003
>
dealer says the same thing. "this is normal". We all know a car shouldn't
work like this, so the BIG question is, what else does Hyundai consider
"normal"
"wm" <flameout00@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40bbc926.340747296@news.comcast.giganews.com. ..
> On Wed, 26 May 2004 07:38:11 -0400, Jason
> >
> >I'd just like to post up here again to let you guys know that the 2-3
> >and 3-4 upshift lag has, for the most part, finally gone away. It
> >only took 1000 miles...
> >
> >My car still skips 2nd gear on the way down though unless I decelerate
> >slowly.
>
> Just turned 9000 on my '04 and still no change in shift pattern. I'm
> going to have to go back to the dealer again I guess. BTW, my '04 has
> a manufacture date of Aug 12, 2003
>
06-06-2004, 09:49 AM
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Re: 2003 Sonata 2-3 up shift problem
I would think these high RPM's can't be good for the engine, so I'm
making sure to get regular oil changes and keep all my records. I
think I'll be getting an engine replacement before my 100,000 miles
are up. I like the car, but sure wish I had selected something other
than a Hyundai
On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 20:39:26 -0300, "Terry & Patricia Swinamer"
<tpswinamer@bwr.eastlink.ca> wrote:
>My 2oo2 Elantra does the same thing.From new. Software update and all. My
>dealer says the same thing. "this is normal". We all know a car shouldn't
>work like this, so the BIG question is, what else does Hyundai consider
>"normal"
>"wm" <flameout00@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:40bbc926.340747296@news.comcast.giganews.com ...
>> On Wed, 26 May 2004 07:38:11 -0400, Jason
>> >
>> >I'd just like to post up here again to let you guys know that the 2-3
>> >and 3-4 upshift lag has, for the most part, finally gone away. It
>> >only took 1000 miles...
>> >
>> >My car still skips 2nd gear on the way down though unless I decelerate
>> >slowly.
>>
>> Just turned 9000 on my '04 and still no change in shift pattern. I'm
>> going to have to go back to the dealer again I guess. BTW, my '04 has
>> a manufacture date of Aug 12, 2003
>>
>
>
making sure to get regular oil changes and keep all my records. I
think I'll be getting an engine replacement before my 100,000 miles
are up. I like the car, but sure wish I had selected something other
than a Hyundai
On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 20:39:26 -0300, "Terry & Patricia Swinamer"
<tpswinamer@bwr.eastlink.ca> wrote:
>My 2oo2 Elantra does the same thing.From new. Software update and all. My
>dealer says the same thing. "this is normal". We all know a car shouldn't
>work like this, so the BIG question is, what else does Hyundai consider
>"normal"
>"wm" <flameout00@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:40bbc926.340747296@news.comcast.giganews.com ...
>> On Wed, 26 May 2004 07:38:11 -0400, Jason
>> >
>> >I'd just like to post up here again to let you guys know that the 2-3
>> >and 3-4 upshift lag has, for the most part, finally gone away. It
>> >only took 1000 miles...
>> >
>> >My car still skips 2nd gear on the way down though unless I decelerate
>> >slowly.
>>
>> Just turned 9000 on my '04 and still no change in shift pattern. I'm
>> going to have to go back to the dealer again I guess. BTW, my '04 has
>> a manufacture date of Aug 12, 2003
>>
>
>
06-06-2004, 11:39 AM
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Re: 2003 Sonata 2-3 up shift problem
On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 13:49:29 GMT, flameout00@hotmail.com (wm) wrote:
>I would think these high RPM's can't be good for the engine, so I'm
>making sure to get regular oil changes and keep all my records. I
>think I'll be getting an engine replacement before my 100,000 miles
>are up. I like the car, but sure wish I had selected something other
>than a Hyundai
>
>On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 20:39:26 -0300, "Terry & Patricia Swinamer"
><tpswinamer@bwr.eastlink.ca> wrote:
>
>>My 2oo2 Elantra does the same thing.From new. Software update and all. My
>>dealer says the same thing. "this is normal". We all know a car shouldn't
>>work like this, so the BIG question is, what else does Hyundai consider
>>"normal"
>>"wm" <flameout00@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:40bbc926.340747296@news.comcast.giganews.co m...
>>> On Wed, 26 May 2004 07:38:11 -0400, Jason
>>> >
>>> >I'd just like to post up here again to let you guys know that the 2-3
>>> >and 3-4 upshift lag has, for the most part, finally gone away. It
>>> >only took 1000 miles...
>>> >
>>> >My car still skips 2nd gear on the way down though unless I decelerate
>>> >slowly.
>>>
>>> Just turned 9000 on my '04 and still no change in shift pattern. I'm
>>> going to have to go back to the dealer again I guess. BTW, my '04 has
>>> a manufacture date of Aug 12, 2003
>>>
>>
>>
DOHC engines are made to rev high (unlike pushrod engines). It's not
taking much, if any, life out of the engine, it's just killing your
gas mileage.
>I would think these high RPM's can't be good for the engine, so I'm
>making sure to get regular oil changes and keep all my records. I
>think I'll be getting an engine replacement before my 100,000 miles
>are up. I like the car, but sure wish I had selected something other
>than a Hyundai
>
>On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 20:39:26 -0300, "Terry & Patricia Swinamer"
><tpswinamer@bwr.eastlink.ca> wrote:
>
>>My 2oo2 Elantra does the same thing.From new. Software update and all. My
>>dealer says the same thing. "this is normal". We all know a car shouldn't
>>work like this, so the BIG question is, what else does Hyundai consider
>>"normal"
>>"wm" <flameout00@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:40bbc926.340747296@news.comcast.giganews.co m...
>>> On Wed, 26 May 2004 07:38:11 -0400, Jason
>>> >
>>> >I'd just like to post up here again to let you guys know that the 2-3
>>> >and 3-4 upshift lag has, for the most part, finally gone away. It
>>> >only took 1000 miles...
>>> >
>>> >My car still skips 2nd gear on the way down though unless I decelerate
>>> >slowly.
>>>
>>> Just turned 9000 on my '04 and still no change in shift pattern. I'm
>>> going to have to go back to the dealer again I guess. BTW, my '04 has
>>> a manufacture date of Aug 12, 2003
>>>
>>
>>
DOHC engines are made to rev high (unlike pushrod engines). It's not
taking much, if any, life out of the engine, it's just killing your
gas mileage.
06-10-2004, 06:25 AM
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Re: 2003 Sonata 2-3 up shift problem
On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 11:39:15 -0400, Jason
<none.of.your.business@see.left.of.at.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 13:49:29 GMT, flameout00@hotmail.com (wm) wrote:
>
>>I would think these high RPM's can't be good for the engine, so I'm
>>making sure to get regular oil changes and keep all my records. I
>>think I'll be getting an engine replacement before my 100,000 miles
>>are up. I like the car, but sure wish I had selected something other
>>than a Hyundai
>>
>>On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 20:39:26 -0300, "Terry & Patricia Swinamer"
>><tpswinamer@bwr.eastlink.ca> wrote:
>>
>
>DOHC engines are made to rev high (unlike pushrod engines). It's not
>taking much, if any, life out of the engine, it's just killing your
>gas mileage.
That it is doing. I still am unable to over about 17.5 MPG (Except on
the highway, where I can get about 23-25
<none.of.your.business@see.left.of.at.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 13:49:29 GMT, flameout00@hotmail.com (wm) wrote:
>
>>I would think these high RPM's can't be good for the engine, so I'm
>>making sure to get regular oil changes and keep all my records. I
>>think I'll be getting an engine replacement before my 100,000 miles
>>are up. I like the car, but sure wish I had selected something other
>>than a Hyundai
>>
>>On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 20:39:26 -0300, "Terry & Patricia Swinamer"
>><tpswinamer@bwr.eastlink.ca> wrote:
>>
>
>DOHC engines are made to rev high (unlike pushrod engines). It's not
>taking much, if any, life out of the engine, it's just killing your
>gas mileage.
That it is doing. I still am unable to over about 17.5 MPG (Except on
the highway, where I can get about 23-25
06-10-2004, 08:05 AM
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Re: 2003 Sonata 2-3 up shift problem
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 10:25:34 GMT, flameout00@hotmail.com (wm) wrote:
>On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 11:39:15 -0400, Jason
><none.of.your.business@see.left.of.at.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 13:49:29 GMT, flameout00@hotmail.com (wm) wrote:
>>
>>>I would think these high RPM's can't be good for the engine, so I'm
>>>making sure to get regular oil changes and keep all my records. I
>>>think I'll be getting an engine replacement before my 100,000 miles
>>>are up. I like the car, but sure wish I had selected something other
>>>than a Hyundai
>>>
>>>On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 20:39:26 -0300, "Terry & Patricia Swinamer"
>>><tpswinamer@bwr.eastlink.ca> wrote:
>>>
>
>>
>>DOHC engines are made to rev high (unlike pushrod engines). It's not
>>taking much, if any, life out of the engine, it's just killing your
>>gas mileage.
>
>That it is doing. I still am unable to over about 17.5 MPG (Except on
>the highway, where I can get about 23-25
That's pretty bad. Mine is usually between 19-20. If I drive a long
trip on the highway I can get 24-25.
>On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 11:39:15 -0400, Jason
><none.of.your.business@see.left.of.at.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 13:49:29 GMT, flameout00@hotmail.com (wm) wrote:
>>
>>>I would think these high RPM's can't be good for the engine, so I'm
>>>making sure to get regular oil changes and keep all my records. I
>>>think I'll be getting an engine replacement before my 100,000 miles
>>>are up. I like the car, but sure wish I had selected something other
>>>than a Hyundai
>>>
>>>On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 20:39:26 -0300, "Terry & Patricia Swinamer"
>>><tpswinamer@bwr.eastlink.ca> wrote:
>>>
>
>>
>>DOHC engines are made to rev high (unlike pushrod engines). It's not
>>taking much, if any, life out of the engine, it's just killing your
>>gas mileage.
>
>That it is doing. I still am unable to over about 17.5 MPG (Except on
>the highway, where I can get about 23-25
That's pretty bad. Mine is usually between 19-20. If I drive a long
trip on the highway I can get 24-25.
06-10-2004, 09:11 PM
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Re: 2003 Sonata 2-3 up shift problem
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 08:05:18 -0400, Jason
<none.of.your.business@see.left.of.at.com> wrote:
>
>That's pretty bad. Mine is usually between 19-20. If I drive a long
>trip on the highway I can get 24-25.
Jason,
Is this the V6??
Thanks
<none.of.your.business@see.left.of.at.com> wrote:
>
>That's pretty bad. Mine is usually between 19-20. If I drive a long
>trip on the highway I can get 24-25.
Jason,
Is this the V6??
Thanks
06-11-2004, 08:46 AM
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Re: 2003 Sonata 2-3 up shift problem
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 01:11:06 GMT, Bob <edrisr@earthlink.nospam.net>
wrote:
>On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 08:05:18 -0400, Jason
><none.of.your.business@see.left.of.at.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>>That's pretty bad. Mine is usually between 19-20. If I drive a long
>>trip on the highway I can get 24-25.
>Jason,
>
>Is this the V6??
>
>Thanks
Yes.
wrote:
>On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 08:05:18 -0400, Jason
><none.of.your.business@see.left.of.at.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>>That's pretty bad. Mine is usually between 19-20. If I drive a long
>>trip on the highway I can get 24-25.
>Jason,
>
>Is this the V6??
>
>Thanks
Yes.
06-11-2004, 07:39 PM
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Re: 2003 Sonata 2-3 up shift problem
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 08:46:52 -0400, Jason
<none.of.your.business@see.left.of.at.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 01:11:06 GMT, Bob <edrisr@earthlink.nospam.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 08:05:18 -0400, Jason
>><none.of.your.business@see.left.of.at.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>That's pretty bad. Mine is usually between 19-20. If I drive a long
>>>trip on the highway I can get 24-25.
>>Jason,
>>
>>Is this the V6??
>>
>>Thanks
>
>Yes.
Thanks...sounds good.
<none.of.your.business@see.left.of.at.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 01:11:06 GMT, Bob <edrisr@earthlink.nospam.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 08:05:18 -0400, Jason
>><none.of.your.business@see.left.of.at.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>That's pretty bad. Mine is usually between 19-20. If I drive a long
>>>trip on the highway I can get 24-25.
>>Jason,
>>
>>Is this the V6??
>>
>>Thanks
>
>Yes.
Thanks...sounds good.
09-06-2004, 02:54 PM
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Re: Where is the TCM fuse
In article <40c01600.3808375@news.comcast.giganews.com>, flameout00@hotmail.com (wm) wrote:
>
>>On 28 May 2004 10:42:02 -0700, theta00k@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Try this. Pull the TCM fuse off the fuse panel and put it back after
>>>about a minute.
>>>
>Where is this TCM fuse on my '04 Sonata? I've looked, but can't find
>one called TCM?
>
Is your car 2.4L?
>
>>On 28 May 2004 10:42:02 -0700, theta00k@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Try this. Pull the TCM fuse off the fuse panel and put it back after
>>>about a minute.
>>>
>Where is this TCM fuse on my '04 Sonata? I've looked, but can't find
>one called TCM?
>
Is your car 2.4L?
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