2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem
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Re: 2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem
"razz" <razz@mts.net> wrote in message
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> I had complained to them before it
> went off warranty about the paint peeling. No other paint flaws anywhere
> but
> on all the door handles Well to my surprise..................no primer on
> the handles.
Do you have any documentation that you reported this before the end of
warranty? If so, you have a very good case. I've had warranty work done
twice when something was reported, but not fixed, under the normal terms.
This was a case of the dealer not being able to find the problem until
later.
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Re: 2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem
"razz" <razz@mts.net> wrote in message
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> I had complained to them before it
> went off warranty about the paint peeling. No other paint flaws anywhere
> but
> on all the door handles Well to my surprise..................no primer on
> the handles.
Do you have any documentation that you reported this before the end of
warranty? If so, you have a very good case. I've had warranty work done
twice when something was reported, but not fixed, under the normal terms.
This was a case of the dealer not being able to find the problem until
later.
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Re: 2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 10:23:55 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net>
wrote:
>I've seen few paint shops, other than very expensive custom car shops,
>that can match the quality of todays factory paint. And no matter how
>good, it is hard to match the color exactly given the weathering that
>has occurred already. And silver is particularly hard to match.
Matt,
It's not hard to beat factory paint these days. Factories are at a
huge disadvantage to small body shops. The factories must worry about
cost, weight, and emissions. You usually end up with a much thicker,
more durable paint job than factory. With modern paints, it's all in
the prep. A new car with no damage should be a snap to do a great prep
job.
I'm just wondering if a couple of more coats of clearcoat wouldn't pay
you dividends on any new car these days.
-
Bob
wrote:
>I've seen few paint shops, other than very expensive custom car shops,
>that can match the quality of todays factory paint. And no matter how
>good, it is hard to match the color exactly given the weathering that
>has occurred already. And silver is particularly hard to match.
Matt,
It's not hard to beat factory paint these days. Factories are at a
huge disadvantage to small body shops. The factories must worry about
cost, weight, and emissions. You usually end up with a much thicker,
more durable paint job than factory. With modern paints, it's all in
the prep. A new car with no damage should be a snap to do a great prep
job.
I'm just wondering if a couple of more coats of clearcoat wouldn't pay
you dividends on any new car these days.
-
Bob
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Re: 2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 10:23:55 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net>
wrote:
>I've seen few paint shops, other than very expensive custom car shops,
>that can match the quality of todays factory paint. And no matter how
>good, it is hard to match the color exactly given the weathering that
>has occurred already. And silver is particularly hard to match.
Matt,
It's not hard to beat factory paint these days. Factories are at a
huge disadvantage to small body shops. The factories must worry about
cost, weight, and emissions. You usually end up with a much thicker,
more durable paint job than factory. With modern paints, it's all in
the prep. A new car with no damage should be a snap to do a great prep
job.
I'm just wondering if a couple of more coats of clearcoat wouldn't pay
you dividends on any new car these days.
-
Bob
wrote:
>I've seen few paint shops, other than very expensive custom car shops,
>that can match the quality of todays factory paint. And no matter how
>good, it is hard to match the color exactly given the weathering that
>has occurred already. And silver is particularly hard to match.
Matt,
It's not hard to beat factory paint these days. Factories are at a
huge disadvantage to small body shops. The factories must worry about
cost, weight, and emissions. You usually end up with a much thicker,
more durable paint job than factory. With modern paints, it's all in
the prep. A new car with no damage should be a snap to do a great prep
job.
I'm just wondering if a couple of more coats of clearcoat wouldn't pay
you dividends on any new car these days.
-
Bob
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Re: 2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem
Well apparently the 5 year bumper to bumper warranty does not cover paint,
at least in Canada it doesn't. 3 years on paint defect. I did not know that,
since 5 year b to b warranty means just that to me... everything from ground
up is covered, aside of coarse brakes and the like. And this all happened
just around the 5 year mark. Don't know if it was documented by the
dealership, and anyways, I have the written statements from a body shop and
some co-workers confirming no primer on handles. Regardless of the age of
the car, paint should not bubble and flake off while it is still relatively
new. Still nothing from Hyundai. Nada. Hyundai refuses to cover their
up from the factory. Like I said, never again will I entertain the idea of
purchasing another vehicle from them. The dealership even knew I replace my
cars every 5 years.
"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
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>
> "razz" <razz@mts.net> wrote in message
> news:zZJPg.10069$_r.1704@newsfe16.lga...
> > I had complained to them before it
> > went off warranty about the paint peeling. No other paint flaws anywhere
> > but
> > on all the door handles Well to my surprise..................no primer
on
> > the handles.
>
>
> Do you have any documentation that you reported this before the end of
> warranty? If so, you have a very good case. I've had warranty work done
> twice when something was reported, but not fixed, under the normal terms.
> This was a case of the dealer not being able to find the problem until
> later.
>
>
at least in Canada it doesn't. 3 years on paint defect. I did not know that,
since 5 year b to b warranty means just that to me... everything from ground
up is covered, aside of coarse brakes and the like. And this all happened
just around the 5 year mark. Don't know if it was documented by the
dealership, and anyways, I have the written statements from a body shop and
some co-workers confirming no primer on handles. Regardless of the age of
the car, paint should not bubble and flake off while it is still relatively
new. Still nothing from Hyundai. Nada. Hyundai refuses to cover their
up from the factory. Like I said, never again will I entertain the idea of
purchasing another vehicle from them. The dealership even knew I replace my
cars every 5 years.
"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
news:wNSPg.2324$x11.427@trndny02...
>
> "razz" <razz@mts.net> wrote in message
> news:zZJPg.10069$_r.1704@newsfe16.lga...
> > I had complained to them before it
> > went off warranty about the paint peeling. No other paint flaws anywhere
> > but
> > on all the door handles Well to my surprise..................no primer
on
> > the handles.
>
>
> Do you have any documentation that you reported this before the end of
> warranty? If so, you have a very good case. I've had warranty work done
> twice when something was reported, but not fixed, under the normal terms.
> This was a case of the dealer not being able to find the problem until
> later.
>
>
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Re: 2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem
Well apparently the 5 year bumper to bumper warranty does not cover paint,
at least in Canada it doesn't. 3 years on paint defect. I did not know that,
since 5 year b to b warranty means just that to me... everything from ground
up is covered, aside of coarse brakes and the like. And this all happened
just around the 5 year mark. Don't know if it was documented by the
dealership, and anyways, I have the written statements from a body shop and
some co-workers confirming no primer on handles. Regardless of the age of
the car, paint should not bubble and flake off while it is still relatively
new. Still nothing from Hyundai. Nada. Hyundai refuses to cover their
up from the factory. Like I said, never again will I entertain the idea of
purchasing another vehicle from them. The dealership even knew I replace my
cars every 5 years.
"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
news:wNSPg.2324$x11.427@trndny02...
>
> "razz" <razz@mts.net> wrote in message
> news:zZJPg.10069$_r.1704@newsfe16.lga...
> > I had complained to them before it
> > went off warranty about the paint peeling. No other paint flaws anywhere
> > but
> > on all the door handles Well to my surprise..................no primer
on
> > the handles.
>
>
> Do you have any documentation that you reported this before the end of
> warranty? If so, you have a very good case. I've had warranty work done
> twice when something was reported, but not fixed, under the normal terms.
> This was a case of the dealer not being able to find the problem until
> later.
>
>
at least in Canada it doesn't. 3 years on paint defect. I did not know that,
since 5 year b to b warranty means just that to me... everything from ground
up is covered, aside of coarse brakes and the like. And this all happened
just around the 5 year mark. Don't know if it was documented by the
dealership, and anyways, I have the written statements from a body shop and
some co-workers confirming no primer on handles. Regardless of the age of
the car, paint should not bubble and flake off while it is still relatively
new. Still nothing from Hyundai. Nada. Hyundai refuses to cover their
up from the factory. Like I said, never again will I entertain the idea of
purchasing another vehicle from them. The dealership even knew I replace my
cars every 5 years.
"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
news:wNSPg.2324$x11.427@trndny02...
>
> "razz" <razz@mts.net> wrote in message
> news:zZJPg.10069$_r.1704@newsfe16.lga...
> > I had complained to them before it
> > went off warranty about the paint peeling. No other paint flaws anywhere
> > but
> > on all the door handles Well to my surprise..................no primer
on
> > the handles.
>
>
> Do you have any documentation that you reported this before the end of
> warranty? If so, you have a very good case. I've had warranty work done
> twice when something was reported, but not fixed, under the normal terms.
> This was a case of the dealer not being able to find the problem until
> later.
>
>
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Re: 2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem
That's my point. I know sometimes happens, but on a brand new car...
How come the guys at the plant have done this? And what about Quality
Control??
Shaman
"Bob Adkins" <bobad@charter.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
7tuvg21k697upe69u9mog65olm174t8bo4@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 10:23:55 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I've seen few paint shops, other than very expensive custom car shops,
>>that can match the quality of todays factory paint. And no matter how
>>good, it is hard to match the color exactly given the weathering that
>>has occurred already. And silver is particularly hard to match.
>
>
> Matt,
>
> It's not hard to beat factory paint these days. Factories are at a
> huge disadvantage to small body shops. The factories must worry about
> cost, weight, and emissions. You usually end up with a much thicker,
> more durable paint job than factory. With modern paints, it's all in
> the prep. A new car with no damage should be a snap to do a great prep
> job.
>
> I'm just wondering if a couple of more coats of clearcoat wouldn't pay
> you dividends on any new car these days.
> -
>
> Bob
How come the guys at the plant have done this? And what about Quality
Control??
Shaman
"Bob Adkins" <bobad@charter.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
7tuvg21k697upe69u9mog65olm174t8bo4@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 10:23:55 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I've seen few paint shops, other than very expensive custom car shops,
>>that can match the quality of todays factory paint. And no matter how
>>good, it is hard to match the color exactly given the weathering that
>>has occurred already. And silver is particularly hard to match.
>
>
> Matt,
>
> It's not hard to beat factory paint these days. Factories are at a
> huge disadvantage to small body shops. The factories must worry about
> cost, weight, and emissions. You usually end up with a much thicker,
> more durable paint job than factory. With modern paints, it's all in
> the prep. A new car with no damage should be a snap to do a great prep
> job.
>
> I'm just wondering if a couple of more coats of clearcoat wouldn't pay
> you dividends on any new car these days.
> -
>
> Bob
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Re: 2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem
That's my point. I know sometimes happens, but on a brand new car...
How come the guys at the plant have done this? And what about Quality
Control??
Shaman
"Bob Adkins" <bobad@charter.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
7tuvg21k697upe69u9mog65olm174t8bo4@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 10:23:55 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I've seen few paint shops, other than very expensive custom car shops,
>>that can match the quality of todays factory paint. And no matter how
>>good, it is hard to match the color exactly given the weathering that
>>has occurred already. And silver is particularly hard to match.
>
>
> Matt,
>
> It's not hard to beat factory paint these days. Factories are at a
> huge disadvantage to small body shops. The factories must worry about
> cost, weight, and emissions. You usually end up with a much thicker,
> more durable paint job than factory. With modern paints, it's all in
> the prep. A new car with no damage should be a snap to do a great prep
> job.
>
> I'm just wondering if a couple of more coats of clearcoat wouldn't pay
> you dividends on any new car these days.
> -
>
> Bob
How come the guys at the plant have done this? And what about Quality
Control??
Shaman
"Bob Adkins" <bobad@charter.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
7tuvg21k697upe69u9mog65olm174t8bo4@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 10:23:55 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I've seen few paint shops, other than very expensive custom car shops,
>>that can match the quality of todays factory paint. And no matter how
>>good, it is hard to match the color exactly given the weathering that
>>has occurred already. And silver is particularly hard to match.
>
>
> Matt,
>
> It's not hard to beat factory paint these days. Factories are at a
> huge disadvantage to small body shops. The factories must worry about
> cost, weight, and emissions. You usually end up with a much thicker,
> more durable paint job than factory. With modern paints, it's all in
> the prep. A new car with no damage should be a snap to do a great prep
> job.
>
> I'm just wondering if a couple of more coats of clearcoat wouldn't pay
> you dividends on any new car these days.
> -
>
> Bob
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Re: 2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem
Well, you found this normal? A brand new car, about near 30000$, with
taxes... I know sometimes happens, and I know it's not a 70000$ car,
but can we expect some quality in what we buy? What about the quality
control guys at this Hyundai plant? And, if I am not mistaken, this is a new
pplant, in Alabama, USA, not in Mexico where we can expect this kind of
"cheap labor problems"
Shaman
"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
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>
> "Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>>>
>> As long as it costs me 0$, there is no big deal. I do not expect a new
>> car, but maybe some kind of "gift".
>
> No that's funny.
>
taxes... I know sometimes happens, and I know it's not a 70000$ car,
but can we expect some quality in what we buy? What about the quality
control guys at this Hyundai plant? And, if I am not mistaken, this is a new
pplant, in Alabama, USA, not in Mexico where we can expect this kind of
"cheap labor problems"
Shaman
"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
OKSPg.2323$x11.836@trndny02...
>
> "Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>>>
>> As long as it costs me 0$, there is no big deal. I do not expect a new
>> car, but maybe some kind of "gift".
>
> No that's funny.
>
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Re: 2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem
Well, you found this normal? A brand new car, about near 30000$, with
taxes... I know sometimes happens, and I know it's not a 70000$ car,
but can we expect some quality in what we buy? What about the quality
control guys at this Hyundai plant? And, if I am not mistaken, this is a new
pplant, in Alabama, USA, not in Mexico where we can expect this kind of
"cheap labor problems"
Shaman
"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
OKSPg.2323$x11.836@trndny02...
>
> "Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>>>
>> As long as it costs me 0$, there is no big deal. I do not expect a new
>> car, but maybe some kind of "gift".
>
> No that's funny.
>
taxes... I know sometimes happens, and I know it's not a 70000$ car,
but can we expect some quality in what we buy? What about the quality
control guys at this Hyundai plant? And, if I am not mistaken, this is a new
pplant, in Alabama, USA, not in Mexico where we can expect this kind of
"cheap labor problems"
Shaman
"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
OKSPg.2323$x11.836@trndny02...
>
> "Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>>>
>> As long as it costs me 0$, there is no big deal. I do not expect a new
>> car, but maybe some kind of "gift".
>
> No that's funny.
>
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Re: 2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem
"razz" <razz@mts.net> wrote in message
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< Hyundai refuses to cover their
> up from the factory. Like I said, never again will I entertain the idea of
> purchasing another vehicle from them. The dealership even knew I replace
my
> cars every 5 years.
The part that surprises me the most about this is that the dealership won't
do it for free for a good return customer. Or - are you saying that you buy
new cars every five years, but don't have a history with this dealer? Seems
to me that any dealer who knew you as a 5 year return customer would gladly
eat the hundred bucks necessary to cover the work.
--
-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
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Re: 2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem
"razz" <razz@mts.net> wrote in message
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< Hyundai refuses to cover their
> up from the factory. Like I said, never again will I entertain the idea of
> purchasing another vehicle from them. The dealership even knew I replace
my
> cars every 5 years.
The part that surprises me the most about this is that the dealership won't
do it for free for a good return customer. Or - are you saying that you buy
new cars every five years, but don't have a history with this dealer? Seems
to me that any dealer who knew you as a 5 year return customer would gladly
eat the hundred bucks necessary to cover the work.
--
-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
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Re: 2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem
"Shaman" <shaman2milleNoSpAm@NoSpAmyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Well, you found this normal? A brand new car, about near 30000$, with
> taxes... I know sometimes happens, and I know it's not a 70000$ car,
> but can we expect some quality in what we buy? What about the quality
> control guys at this Hyundai plant? And, if I am not mistaken, this is a
> new pplant, in Alabama, USA, not in Mexico where we can expect this kind
> of "cheap labor problems"
>
> Shaman
No, I did not say it is normal. I do expect that they would fix it. What is
funny to me is that you expect a gift of some sort. Poor quality can come
from any plant and while it should not happen, it does. Reputable companies
make good.
I bought a Hyundai (pick it up tonight) because of my problems with a Buick
that costs considerably more. I started being dissatisfied when the front
seat heater went out and it was less than 3 years, but more than 36k so they
wanted $576 to fix it. Then it was the transmission, two power windows,
cruise control switch, coupled with rotors, wheel bearing, sensors and
little stuff like that.