Fuel for 2006 Sonata V6
03-21-2006, 07:56 AM
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Re: Fuel for 2006 Sonata V6
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 21:50:24 GMT, Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>>With modern engines and modern fuels, the worst thing you
>>can do is to run premium in an engine designed for regular. There is
>>absolutely no advantage to doing so. It cruds up your engine AND it pay
>>extra for the fuel that's doing the damage. It's your basis lose-lose
>>situation.
>
>
> The oil companies advertise all kinds of "cleaning" and "anti-deposit"
> additives in their premium gas. They lie like a bunch of common pygmies.
Well, it's more a lie of ommission. They do have additives in their
premium gas, but what they're not telling you is that they're in their
regular gas, too. The old mechanic's solution "run a tank of premium
through your engine to clean it" simply doesn't apply anymore. Modern
fuels do an excellent job of keeping engines clean. That's why fuel
additives - other than those designed to remove water - are largely a
waste of money. You can remove water from your tank using denatured
alcohol that's a fraction of the price of Drygas and similar products.
This is also true of oil additives; they're unnecessary and often
counterproductive. Modern oils contain finely-tuned additive packages
that are based on the needs of the engine. Dumping a bottle of "Amazing
Snake Oil" into your crankcase is not only not helpful, it can disrupt
the balance of additives and result in lower protection for your engine.
Some, such as those that contain Teflon (which Dupont say IS NOT
suitable for use inside an engine) can actually cause blockages in the
fine oil pathways found in newer engines, resulting is serious engine
damage.
The bottom line is that the manufacturer of your engine has invested
tens of millions of dollars (or more) in developing it. They KNOW what
it needs for fuel and lubricants. Follow their recommendations and you
can't go wrong.
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 21:50:24 GMT, Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>>With modern engines and modern fuels, the worst thing you
>>can do is to run premium in an engine designed for regular. There is
>>absolutely no advantage to doing so. It cruds up your engine AND it pay
>>extra for the fuel that's doing the damage. It's your basis lose-lose
>>situation.
>
>
> The oil companies advertise all kinds of "cleaning" and "anti-deposit"
> additives in their premium gas. They lie like a bunch of common pygmies.
Well, it's more a lie of ommission. They do have additives in their
premium gas, but what they're not telling you is that they're in their
regular gas, too. The old mechanic's solution "run a tank of premium
through your engine to clean it" simply doesn't apply anymore. Modern
fuels do an excellent job of keeping engines clean. That's why fuel
additives - other than those designed to remove water - are largely a
waste of money. You can remove water from your tank using denatured
alcohol that's a fraction of the price of Drygas and similar products.
This is also true of oil additives; they're unnecessary and often
counterproductive. Modern oils contain finely-tuned additive packages
that are based on the needs of the engine. Dumping a bottle of "Amazing
Snake Oil" into your crankcase is not only not helpful, it can disrupt
the balance of additives and result in lower protection for your engine.
Some, such as those that contain Teflon (which Dupont say IS NOT
suitable for use inside an engine) can actually cause blockages in the
fine oil pathways found in newer engines, resulting is serious engine
damage.
The bottom line is that the manufacturer of your engine has invested
tens of millions of dollars (or more) in developing it. They KNOW what
it needs for fuel and lubricants. Follow their recommendations and you
can't go wrong.
03-21-2006, 07:57 AM
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Re: Fuel for 2006 Sonata V6
"Bob Adkins" <bobad@charter.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 21:50:24 GMT, Brian Nystrom
<brian.nystrom@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> >With modern engines and modern fuels, the worst thing you
> >can do is to run premium in an engine designed for regular. There is
> >absolutely no advantage to doing so. It cruds up your engine AND it pay
> >extra for the fuel that's doing the damage. It's your basis lose-lose
> >situation.
>
> The oil companies advertise all kinds of "cleaning" and "anti-deposit"
> additives in their premium gas. They lie like a bunch of common pygmies.
>
.... as opposed to a bunch of elite pygmies?
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-Mike-
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03-21-2006, 07:57 AM
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Re: Fuel for 2006 Sonata V6
"Bob Adkins" <bobad@charter.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 21:50:24 GMT, Brian Nystrom
<brian.nystrom@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> >With modern engines and modern fuels, the worst thing you
> >can do is to run premium in an engine designed for regular. There is
> >absolutely no advantage to doing so. It cruds up your engine AND it pay
> >extra for the fuel that's doing the damage. It's your basis lose-lose
> >situation.
>
> The oil companies advertise all kinds of "cleaning" and "anti-deposit"
> additives in their premium gas. They lie like a bunch of common pygmies.
>
.... as opposed to a bunch of elite pygmies?
--
-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
03-21-2006, 07:57 AM
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Re: Fuel for 2006 Sonata V6
"Bob Adkins" <bobad@charter.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 21:50:24 GMT, Brian Nystrom
<brian.nystrom@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> >With modern engines and modern fuels, the worst thing you
> >can do is to run premium in an engine designed for regular. There is
> >absolutely no advantage to doing so. It cruds up your engine AND it pay
> >extra for the fuel that's doing the damage. It's your basis lose-lose
> >situation.
>
> The oil companies advertise all kinds of "cleaning" and "anti-deposit"
> additives in their premium gas. They lie like a bunch of common pygmies.
>
.... as opposed to a bunch of elite pygmies?
--
-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
03-21-2006, 08:00 AM
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Re: Fuel for 2006 Sonata V6
"Darby OGill" <barkbark@woof.net> wrote in message
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> "Darby OGill" <barkbark@woof.net> wrote in message
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> >
> > <Old_Timer> wrote in message
> > news:v8ns12h98a7sge2aeba4hjin4c72opfntj@4ax.com...
> >> Who can tell me? Does the 2006 Sonata V6 require premium fuel??
> >>
> >> Old_Timer
> >
> >
>
> my '06 came with an owners manual....the answer is as close as your glove
> box!....I use regular unleaded.
>
>
Now there ya go - expecting the unreasonable. Why would anyone possibly
think it might be more appropriate to do something for one's self such as
read an owner's manual, or even perhaps go on-line to the Hyundai web site
when it is so much easier to just post a question to a newsgroup? I can see
you are a man of high demands and expectations.
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-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
03-21-2006, 08:00 AM
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Re: Fuel for 2006 Sonata V6
"Darby OGill" <barkbark@woof.net> wrote in message
news:VOGTf.2731$yo1.1914@trndny09...
>
> "Darby OGill" <barkbark@woof.net> wrote in message
> news:%LGTf.2939$1U1.865@trndny05...
> >
> > <Old_Timer> wrote in message
> > news:v8ns12h98a7sge2aeba4hjin4c72opfntj@4ax.com...
> >> Who can tell me? Does the 2006 Sonata V6 require premium fuel??
> >>
> >> Old_Timer
> >
> >
>
> my '06 came with an owners manual....the answer is as close as your glove
> box!....I use regular unleaded.
>
>
Now there ya go - expecting the unreasonable. Why would anyone possibly
think it might be more appropriate to do something for one's self such as
read an owner's manual, or even perhaps go on-line to the Hyundai web site
when it is so much easier to just post a question to a newsgroup? I can see
you are a man of high demands and expectations.
--
-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
03-21-2006, 08:00 AM
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Re: Fuel for 2006 Sonata V6
"Darby OGill" <barkbark@woof.net> wrote in message
news:VOGTf.2731$yo1.1914@trndny09...
>
> "Darby OGill" <barkbark@woof.net> wrote in message
> news:%LGTf.2939$1U1.865@trndny05...
> >
> > <Old_Timer> wrote in message
> > news:v8ns12h98a7sge2aeba4hjin4c72opfntj@4ax.com...
> >> Who can tell me? Does the 2006 Sonata V6 require premium fuel??
> >>
> >> Old_Timer
> >
> >
>
> my '06 came with an owners manual....the answer is as close as your glove
> box!....I use regular unleaded.
>
>
Now there ya go - expecting the unreasonable. Why would anyone possibly
think it might be more appropriate to do something for one's self such as
read an owner's manual, or even perhaps go on-line to the Hyundai web site
when it is so much easier to just post a question to a newsgroup? I can see
you are a man of high demands and expectations.
--
-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
03-21-2006, 11:31 AM
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Re: Fuel for 2006 Sonata V6
I have read the owners manual cover to cover and I don't find any reference
to synthetic oil....also,,here's another bug-aboo. just try to change the
third stoplight bulb.....there's nothing in the manual about it. you can
learn tha hard way like I did. pry the thing up and break the
brackets---OR you can crawl in the trunk and remove two screws that hold
the module to the rear tray!!!
to synthetic oil....also,,here's another bug-aboo. just try to change the
third stoplight bulb.....there's nothing in the manual about it. you can
learn tha hard way like I did. pry the thing up and break the
brackets---OR you can crawl in the trunk and remove two screws that hold
the module to the rear tray!!!
03-21-2006, 11:31 AM
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Re: Fuel for 2006 Sonata V6
I have read the owners manual cover to cover and I don't find any reference
to synthetic oil....also,,here's another bug-aboo. just try to change the
third stoplight bulb.....there's nothing in the manual about it. you can
learn tha hard way like I did. pry the thing up and break the
brackets---OR you can crawl in the trunk and remove two screws that hold
the module to the rear tray!!!
to synthetic oil....also,,here's another bug-aboo. just try to change the
third stoplight bulb.....there's nothing in the manual about it. you can
learn tha hard way like I did. pry the thing up and break the
brackets---OR you can crawl in the trunk and remove two screws that hold
the module to the rear tray!!!
03-21-2006, 11:31 AM
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Re: Fuel for 2006 Sonata V6
I have read the owners manual cover to cover and I don't find any reference
to synthetic oil....also,,here's another bug-aboo. just try to change the
third stoplight bulb.....there's nothing in the manual about it. you can
learn tha hard way like I did. pry the thing up and break the
brackets---OR you can crawl in the trunk and remove two screws that hold
the module to the rear tray!!!
to synthetic oil....also,,here's another bug-aboo. just try to change the
third stoplight bulb.....there's nothing in the manual about it. you can
learn tha hard way like I did. pry the thing up and break the
brackets---OR you can crawl in the trunk and remove two screws that hold
the module to the rear tray!!!
03-21-2006, 12:30 PM
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Re: Fuel for 2006 Sonata V6
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:28:50 -0500, "Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Now that we have the fuel thing settled, how about oil. I have used
>syntec-blend for years. let's all argue about fossil vs synthetic!!
Oh no, you're not going to sucker me into a re-hash of that old argument!
I'm not one to follow any advice blindly. I usually run things through my
own filters. But in this case, the manufacturer recommends the most
economical** oil, and I'm following their recommendations.
**Economical, in this case, is what's best to use over the life of the car.
There are arguably better lubricants out there than the manufacturer
recommends. However, they do not make economic sense except in EXTREMELY
harsh and unusual conditions.
The best analogy I can think of is a common 16 penny nail. You can get
steel, and stainless steel versions. Which is best? Well, obviously
stainless is "better". But,,, you have to ask yourself why they are not
used to frame up houses. Now if someone tells me they framed up their house
with SS nails, I swear I'm going to jump!
--
Bob
>Now that we have the fuel thing settled, how about oil. I have used
>syntec-blend for years. let's all argue about fossil vs synthetic!!
Oh no, you're not going to sucker me into a re-hash of that old argument!
I'm not one to follow any advice blindly. I usually run things through my
own filters. But in this case, the manufacturer recommends the most
economical** oil, and I'm following their recommendations.
**Economical, in this case, is what's best to use over the life of the car.
There are arguably better lubricants out there than the manufacturer
recommends. However, they do not make economic sense except in EXTREMELY
harsh and unusual conditions.
The best analogy I can think of is a common 16 penny nail. You can get
steel, and stainless steel versions. Which is best? Well, obviously
stainless is "better". But,,, you have to ask yourself why they are not
used to frame up houses. Now if someone tells me they framed up their house
with SS nails, I swear I'm going to jump!
--
Bob
03-21-2006, 12:30 PM
#45
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Re: Fuel for 2006 Sonata V6
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:28:50 -0500, "Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Now that we have the fuel thing settled, how about oil. I have used
>syntec-blend for years. let's all argue about fossil vs synthetic!!
Oh no, you're not going to sucker me into a re-hash of that old argument!
I'm not one to follow any advice blindly. I usually run things through my
own filters. But in this case, the manufacturer recommends the most
economical** oil, and I'm following their recommendations.
**Economical, in this case, is what's best to use over the life of the car.
There are arguably better lubricants out there than the manufacturer
recommends. However, they do not make economic sense except in EXTREMELY
harsh and unusual conditions.
The best analogy I can think of is a common 16 penny nail. You can get
steel, and stainless steel versions. Which is best? Well, obviously
stainless is "better". But,,, you have to ask yourself why they are not
used to frame up houses. Now if someone tells me they framed up their house
with SS nails, I swear I'm going to jump!
--
Bob
>Now that we have the fuel thing settled, how about oil. I have used
>syntec-blend for years. let's all argue about fossil vs synthetic!!
Oh no, you're not going to sucker me into a re-hash of that old argument!
I'm not one to follow any advice blindly. I usually run things through my
own filters. But in this case, the manufacturer recommends the most
economical** oil, and I'm following their recommendations.
**Economical, in this case, is what's best to use over the life of the car.
There are arguably better lubricants out there than the manufacturer
recommends. However, they do not make economic sense except in EXTREMELY
harsh and unusual conditions.
The best analogy I can think of is a common 16 penny nail. You can get
steel, and stainless steel versions. Which is best? Well, obviously
stainless is "better". But,,, you have to ask yourself why they are not
used to frame up houses. Now if someone tells me they framed up their house
with SS nails, I swear I'm going to jump!
--
Bob